/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.11555759]

Jesus

[Anonymous No.11555778]

>>11555759
wept.

[Anonymous No.11555791]

>>11555759
Reminder that over 80% of papers in the humanities are never cited, not even once.

[Anonymous No.11555942]

>>11555791
How many of the remaining 20% are only cited by the author or their grad students?

[Anonymous No.11555959]

>>11555791
Reminder that university's are sitting on a hundred years of translations, books, and articles, and that we should really go through and set up an internet archive university.

[Anonymous No.11555985]

>>11555959
I've always thought about this and I'm sure most of us do. Why isn't there a virtual Library of Alexandria?

[Anonymous No.11555990]

>>11555778
based and redpilled

[Anonymous No.11555991]

>>11555985
t. Hari Seldon

[Anonymous No.11555993]

>>11555985
Because universities and academicians are the most corrupt people in the world? Find me another person in this world, even a capitalist pig like described by Marxists, that would charge you $20+ for a single 5 page paper.
The day the Cathedral crumbles is the day humanity rejoices.

[Anonymous No.11556007]

Academia today is mostly useful for sterile lab work, the kind where there is no chance of disturbing popular delusions or offending anyone. And even that is better in industrial research.

[Anonymous No.11556010]

>>11555993
Yeah man, fuck that shit. Fuck 50-100 dollar academic books, 40something dollar JSTOR articles n shit. At least Shakespeare and Milton and stuff are all public domain.

[Anonymous No.11556114]

JUST

[Anonymous No.11556122]

>>11555778
real tears

[Anonymous No.11556133]

>>11555778
fpbp

[Anonymous No.11556156]

>>11555993
You know scholars have nothing to do with that, right? That market is controlled by just a few corporation and I never met a professor who didn't complained about that at some point

>>11556010
You can email the authors of any articles and most of them will gladly send you the pdf. Again they have nothing to do with that. If not, sci-hub is still working

[Anonymous No.11556227]

>Academia is shit
>Wageslaving is shit
>Being an entrepeneur takes away your life and happines
>Being a music/sport star leads you to a shallow world, with fake people and substance abuse
>Being a NEET deteriorates your mind, body and social abilities

I'm sure we were better off as hunter gatherers! Those were happy times!

[Anonymous No.11556244]

>>11556114
start with the sumerians

[Anonymous No.11556274]

>>11555759
> letting Google suggestion algorithms define your line of thought, even if your line of thought is an opposite to what it says

HAWW PLEBB R U??

[Anonymous No.11556275]

>>11556156
This. Take down the publishing parasite. Humanities will crumble once it's no longer able to use it as a measure of success but it isn't worth preserving anyway

[Anonymous No.11556286]

>>11556274
year zero soon

[Anonymous No.11556303]

>>11555778
third post best post

[Anonymous No.11556363]

it's not wrong. Nothing's more annoying than seeing academics and their sympathizers dismiss any and all criticism as anti-intellectualism and expect that to be sufficient when they've largely failed society as a whole.

I can't even blame the general public for being genuinely anti-intellectual when intellectualism is used as a justification for organizing society based on the decisions people make as teenagers. I try not to think about it too much lest I become a genuine Khmer Rouge sympathizer.

[Anonymous No.11556423]

The humanities don't belong in academia in an age where basically everyone is literate and books are common and as cheap as dirt. Kick humanities out of universities, make them all STEM and government controlled (non-privatized), and stop letting in people who are simply average.

[Anonymous No.11556499]

>>11556156
This.
A few days ago I read an article about this problem, which is apparently even worse in STEM unis. Ridiculously overpriced subscriptions for scientific magazines, and some EU countries are trying to fight that, make the articles freely available to scholars, but the companies are fighting back, fucking them over, blocking online access and shit.
Instead of being ganked by online piracy, academic publishers are more powerful than ever. Old scholars of middle English religious poetry don't have much to do with these international multimillion companies.

>>11556423
I hope you're just pretending to be this retarded.

[Anonymous No.11556608]

>>11556499
He’s right in that private education should be abolished, but everything else is ridiculously wrong.

[Anonymous No.11556674]

>>11555759
you know google suggestions are based on your past activity, right? they don't just show what's popular, but what you may care about, based on their data on you and their algorithms

[Anonymous No.11556687]

>>11556674
kek / 10

[Anonymous No.11556839]

>>11556499
>>11556608
>t. butthurt literature/philosophy majors who think spending 4-8 years of life "studying" what amounts to a hobby as an adult is something that should be encouraged

[Anonymous No.11556870]

>>11556674
Just tried it and got the same suggestions

[Anonymous No.11557466]

>>11556839
Yeah, Aristotle should've ploughed the fields and killed some facking Persians instead of wasting time on his hobbies, logic, poetry and shit.
I'll make sure that all translations of philosophical and Greek texts that I buy are done by hobbyists, to guarantee maximum quality.

[Anonymous No.11557627]

>>11556839
I'm an accountant, but I wished I had studied philosophy. There's certainly societal value to these fields, and there's also value in the educational environments that allow this information to transferred from experts to students, and I'm saying that a person who isn't particularly fond of academia (>>11556363 is me).

[Anonymous No.11557688]

>>11555759
Part of this is actually the result of the state of academia but part of this is also from public talking heads like Jordan Peterson constantly trying to delegitimize it.

>>11556227
Fucking hilarious post. Made my day.

>>11556674
Got the same exact results.

>>11556839
God. It's so depressing to encounter people with such an aggressively hyper-utilitarian worldview that they would scorn someone for studying something that actually interests them. Go read a self-help book and get your fitbit steps in, you pathetic social climber faggot.

>>11557627
>I have a nice job in finance and I double majored in economics & philosophy. No regrets. I respect academia and I have friends in grad school, but I see them struggling to get by and having a crisis about it being a meaningless endeavour. Still read a shitload and it is definitely my main "hobby". I guess I am "happy" or at least less suicidal than my grad student friends.

[Anonymous No.11557692]

>>11557627
>>11557688
Didn't mean to greentext.

[Anonymous No.11557705]

>>11555778
>room goes dark and the smiles of cenobytes gleam from the corners

[Anonymous No.11557731]

>>11555993
>the cathedral

are you the brain dead retard anon who linked me to that "open letter to progressives"?

i did a lot of research after reading that and i've come to conclusion anons like you are mental midgets

[Anonymous No.11557733]

>>11557688
>I respect academia and I have friends in grad school, but I see them struggling to get by and having a crisis about it being a meaningless endeavour.
some friends I went to high school with studied phil/humanities and are doing pretty well for themselves, but they all went to much better schools than I did (I think mine might actually have been ranked last in the country.)

While I'm glad they've managed to achieve these things, I've become cynical about academia's social function and think it needs some major outside reforms to actually be respectable.

[Anonymous No.11557751]

https://www.opendemocracy.net/ourkingdom/mark-fisher/exiting-vampire-castle

[Anonymous No.11557776]

>>11555759
>Work hard studying your entire life for a slice of the ez Academic life
>Internet comes around and smashes the concept of "knowledge" into a million insignificant pieces
Academia is like a dam holding back the flood. Whether that's a good thing or a bad thing is yet to be known.

[Anonymous No.11557805]

>>11557776
Academia as we know it isn't about spreading knowledge. It exists to control social mobility so that it exists in favor of established interests, and it creates an illusion of meaningful social mobility existing in the country. The schools with the most money have managed to monopolize segments of the most elite levels of society. The vies have done it with the federal government, Stanford with the tech industry, etc.

[Anonymous No.11557821]

>>11557466
>Yeah, Aristotle should've ploughed the fields and killed some facking Persians instead of wasting time on his hobbies, logic, poetry and shit.
this but unironically

[Anonymous No.11558744]

More than one university I considered to be an utter joke (after seeing their classes and the research produced by their students, both graduate and undergrad) turned out to be in the top 25% of universities worldwide when I checked.

This leads me to believe that 75% of universities should be closed.

[Anonymous No.11558777]

>>11558744
What sort of research were they producing? What sort of research do you expect them to produce?

[Anonymous No.11558810]

>>11558777
idk lol i just know bro what are you tsupid??

[Anonymous No.11559664]

>>11555759
It's true though, universities are now infested with extremist white-guilty vegan neo-libs.

[Anonymous No.11559694]

[Anonymous No.11559716]

>>11555759
there's nothing wrong with any of that.
>>11555791
Get a real degree, publish a paper that actually serves to advance your field, and you'll be cited. Gabbish?

[Anonymous No.11559720]

What place in the world has the best academia? Is it unironically North Korea?

[Anonymous No.11559724]

>>11555759
>tfw planetary sciences
>best of both worlds between STEM and humanities
>nearly half female, all highly intelligent and attractive
>low people to problem ratio
>most people in the field are bad at advanced maths so little competition
I have arrived at the promised land my friends

[Anonymous No.11559740]

>>11555759

>search through university's database for research sources on a relatively obscure topic
>it's all thesis papers for MFA and PHD students
>talk to professor about it
>"uh.... don't use those, they're not reliable enough"

[Anonymous No.11559859]

>>11556227
Hire some personal trainers and scholars. Live well.
Did you know an adjunct professor gets only $3k/class? You can hire a bunch of phds to be your private tutors for a year for half the price of an ivy league and they come to you!

[Anonymous No.11559908]

>>11559724
>be a glorified sci-fi consultant
I mean, a living is a living, right?

[Anonymous No.11559911]

Fellas I am only studying to become a part of academia to have a job related to my love of literature while I work mostly on my fiction writing. I don’t mind if I never “get discovered” or “make it big” with my fiction because I’ll still have my reading job to support me and if I do make some money off of writing then I can quit the job or just stick with it and maybe gain some respect or recognition or something. Is this a bad plan, boys? I could probably still pull out now and move to stem if I really wanted to it would just have been a waste of a few years and a lot of money

[Anonymous No.11559915]

Academia has become a trade school now. Everyone uses it as a way to get jobs instead of simply for the knowledge. This goes for everything.

Capitalism has ruined everything it has touched.

[Anonymous No.11559923]

>>11559915
Not wrong, but the problem is that the problems are too big to fix from within the system. We’re going to literally have to wait until shit can’t sustain itself any longer for there to be any change

[Anonymous No.11559925]

>>11555778
;-(

[Anonymous No.11559931]

>>11559923

It is a pity. I'd love to go back to college and be amongst others that are like-minded and wish to learn a subject for its own sake. I have been priced out completely unless I wish to go into debt and be even more of a slave than I will inevitably have to be.

[Anonymous No.11559932]

>>11559915
It's become this way because America has no fucking trade school system. They literally expect everyone to go deep into debt just to get a job. And I wouldn't blame capitalism for this one-- it's the government backing of student loan debts that prevents default on them which is causing the student loan bubble. If it was as difficult to get a student loan as, say, a car loan, we wouldn't be in this situation.

[Anonymous No.11559937]

>>11559932
>I wouldn't blame capitalism

I would. It's the root of 99% of problems despite people making excuses for it.

[Anonymous No.11559941]

>>11559937
Because a socialist system where everyone got college for free would be so much better for academia, amirite?

[Anonymous No.11559950]

>>11559941

Sure, but that isn't what I said.

[Anonymous No.11560254]

>>11559950
yikes

[Anonymous No.11560313]

*Rackets your path*

[Anonymous No.11560319]

>>11555778
fpbp

[Anonymous No.11560325]

>>11557805
This.

[Anonymous No.11560340]

>>11559716
wallahu akhbar, well said my fellow med

[Anonymous No.11560532]

>>11559724
>>best of both worlds between STEM and humanities
Wtf do "planetary sciences" have to do with humanities?