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what critique/problem/philosophy BTFO's materialists and scientific naturalists?

>> No.11537557

>>11537466
Realism, regarding universals and forms

>> No.11537557,1 [INTERNAL] 

>>11537557
He said BTFOs not proves right.

>> No.11537672

>>11537466
bump for interest

>> No.11537678

>>11537557
How so?

>> No.11537684

the hard broblem of gonsciousness :DD

>> No.11537706

That soul is the source of life

>> No.11537713

>>11537466
Not being able to use empiricism to prove empiricism is the only legitimate type of knowledge

>> No.11537796

>>11537466
Turning 50 and being hated by your family, especially if you have kids.

>> No.11537818

>>11537796
Anon, is there something you want to talk about?

>> No.11537833

>>11537818
It's 30 years early for me. But from what I've seen, being a prick over long periods of time makes you miserable no matter how much you achieve in life.

>> No.11537839

>>11537713
would you call yourself a solipsist as well?

>> No.11537840

>>11537466
why endorphines make people happy

>> No.11537843

Measurement problem in QM and the hard problem of consciousness.

>> No.11537851
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11537851

Romantic materialism

>> No.11537992

>>11537833
Maybe. But you'll also be right so it doesn't matter.

>> No.11538017

>>11537839
What? No. How is my post indicative of solipsism at all?

>> No.11538029

Hume

>> No.11538051

>>11537840
Endorphins are anti-inflammatory, brainlet.
Defaulting to "muh qualia" as an anti-materialist talking point is like gesturing to the sun and asking "Why is heat hot? you can't explain that".
Why can't some things be fundamentally responsible for feelings when there have been fundamental electricity-bits and gravity-bobs in other domains of naturalism?

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11538054

This kills the analytic

>> No.11538081

>>11538051
>Why can't some things be fundamentally responsible for feelings when there have been fundamental electricity-bits and gravity-bobs in other domains of naturalism?

Because emotions are dependent on the immanent experience of the brain not the mere cocktails held within it. A sad event is experienced as sad and a happy event as happy regardless of what the brains current chemical balance is which can only dampen or highlight that fact, not negate it

>> No.11538245

>>11538017
not indicative. especially since your statement can be interpreted in many subtly different ways, to imply different things.
i guess the following just ocurred to me:
a person who is willing to doubt the epistemological supremacy (forgive the expression) of empirical evidence, may also come to doubt the reality of the things he perceives, and may end up assuming that everything he sees is a projection of his own mind.
i think some people might call me a solipsist.

>> No.11538451

>>11538245
You can't be a solipsist, I'm the solipsist

>> No.11538504

>>11537678
acausal and atemporal abstract entities that nevertheless exist would deal a fatal blow to the physicalist worldview

>> No.11538656

>>11538504
>would

>> No.11538664

>>11537466
The mind-independent existence of numbers, the fact that there are mind independent concepts, modal relations like necessity all spell trouble for the physicalist monists out there.

>> No.11538733

HEIDEGGER

>> No.11538758

>>11537466
Strawson's panpsychism, because their "b-but it's muh supernatural so it doesn't exist" card doesn't work against them and they have no better arguments than that for anything
https://www.docdroid.net/446xk5K/strawson-g-realistic-monism.pdf
https://www.docdroid.net/s1DUoD2/strawson-g-mind-and-being-the-primacy-of-panpsychism.pdf

>> No.11538766

Just talk about the absolute fuckery that is quantum mechanics and physics

>> No.11538767

>>11538758
against it*

>> No.11538773

>>11538664
Hell of an assumption you've got there

>> No.11538777

>>11537466
>BTFO's
Blown the fuck out's?

>> No.11538798

>>11538777
mfw when such an autist gets such nice digits

>> No.11539074

>>11538451
You can't be.

>> No.11539560

>>11539074
>>11538451
keep arguing, dream-minions, i love these illusions

>> No.11539605

>>11538773
You do not think that necessity is a true concept? If you want there to be necessary features of any thing, then you must go essentialist, and there's very few physicalist essentialists out there.

There being abstract entities is an appeal to best explanation, which they are.

>> No.11539618

>>11537466
The problem of induction