Zizek was praising this embarrassment. This is literally lit: the person, in terms of her political views.

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Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:17:58 2018 No.11532320 [Reply] [Original]

Zizek was praising this embarrassment. This is literally lit: the person, in terms of her political views.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:23:14 2018 No.11532353 >>11532320 Who is she and why should I care

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:26:08 2018 No.11532369 >>11532353 She's the new Dem in Brooklyn's congressional district, ousting a longtime incumbent named Crowley who people thought was going to be speaker. Considered on the biggest upsets ever.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:27:42 2018 No.11532382 >>11532353 The left-leaning political establishment in America is about to undergo a civil war. She will become one of the leaders in this great struggle.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:29:55 2018 No.11532395 this is our board, Nazi.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:30:31 2018 No.11532399 >>11532395 no board on 4chan is yours, faggot.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:35:31 2018 No.11532423 >>11532399 that where you're wrong kiddo

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:40:36 2018 No.11532449 >Zizek was praising this embarrassment. Embarrassing compared to whom? The ex-convicts, pedophiles, con artists, foreign agents and coporate cucks that are her endorsed by her political opponents? What's so embarrassing about her?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:41:51 2018 No.11532453 The current state of /lit/ >>>/pol/

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:42:04 2018 No.11532457 >>11532320 >This is literally lit: the person, in terms of her political views. Speak for yourself, pinko faggot.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:42:08 2018 No.11532458 File: 2.09 MB, 335x188, narco5.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11532382 > >>11532369 >>11532320 >>11532399 >american politics

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:42:51 2018 No.11532464 You're all wrong, /lit/ is a Catholic board.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:45:05 2018 No.11532474 /lit/ is for cuties :3

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:46:42 2018 No.11532482 >>11532423 nod really. you might think otherwise, but every time you make your intentions clear, the board reacts against you, because you are not wanted. /pol/ is annoying, but you people are human cancer.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:49:34 2018 No.11532492 >>11532464 This. Catholic integralism is /lit/‘s political philosophy

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:49:38 2018 No.11532493 >>11532320 Oh no, someone who cares about other humans has become a politician! God help the conservatives

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:49:50 2018 No.11532495

>>11532320
This article by her:

https://www.americamagazine.org/politics-society/2018/06/27/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-her-catholic-faith-and-urgency-criminal

is probably one of the cringiest left-wing op-eds I've ever read. Mark how she just assumes that the fact that some groups or races of people go to prison more than others is a sign of injustice (and not, you know, a sign that they commit more crime), how she assumes that you can just "reform" and "forgive" every criminal, and how her "personal" story of mass incarceration conveniently leaves out what exactly her hoodrat spic cousin did to land in jail in the first place.

This woman is one of the dumbest people ever to grace the American political arena.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:52:06 2018 No.11532503

I don't get American socialist, or some of those American social democrats who wish for a welfare state.

There is literally MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of undocumented people just living normal lives in America. There is countless of stories of "undocumented students" going through all levels of your education system.
How the hell do these people think they will be able to build a robust welfare system when shit like that goes on like it's fucking nothing. How the hell do you even go through kindergarten, elementary school, middle school and high school while being "undocumented".

I don't understand USA.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:52:09 2018 No.11532504 File: 113 KB, 872x916, pol_may_may_by_anarchoautism-davyygc.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11532482 t. pol

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:54:23 2018 No.11532512 >>11532504 t. reddit settler why do you always rip off /pol/ memes, if everything about them is so toxic and just not okay?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:56:04 2018 No.11532520 >>11532493 Based and redpilled.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:56:15 2018 No.11532522 >>11532493 She is a mawkish sentimentalist. It is weird how liberals confuse plebian raillery against "inequality" for actual compassion.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:56:51 2018 No.11532523 >>11532512 but /pol/(You) is reddit(Also You) back to r/theDonald with you!

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:57:10 2018 No.11532525 >>11532522 >liberals socialists

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:57:50 2018 No.11532531 >this moderate left-winger is a dangerous revolutionary in america wild

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:58:44 2018 No.11532537
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>>11532320
The only thing that troubles me about her is how I can clearly see what the future holds for the liberal democratic developed world, the pattern will once again repeat.

1. People who tend to the lower end of the IQ scale become a majority
2. Lower IQ people tend to vote for hard socialists, because lower IQ is deeply correlated with poverty (but poor people are poor because they lack equality of opportunity), yes, some, not the majority, IQ is scary.
3. Socialist gets in power
4. Socializes
5. Economy collapses, technology stagnates more than it already was.

This is Argentina all over again, it's so crazy to see, this could have all been avoided, I wonder how the suits at Goldman are reacting, so much for lee kuan yew eh Levi.
Screenshot this, the United States will elect a socialist president within our lifetime, it will happen, I'm willing to bet.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 14:58:59 2018 No.11532539 >>11532525 They suffer from the same issues for the most part.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:00:04 2018 No.11532542 >>11532523 spout as many memes as you want, chuckles. it's obvious to anyone who isn't willing themselves into ignorance that you people use 'reeeee /pol/!' as a ploy to settle boards and use them in your retarded squabble with le nazis.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:00:21 2018 No.11532544 >>11532537 Democracy in general is a highly untenable political setup. Most people just aren't smart enough to vote correctly. Monarchy and aristocracy are the way to go; China has the right idea in this regard.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:01:06 2018 No.11532548 >>11532539 liberals do it out of ignorance. they're the unwitting host for larva that is now reaching maturity

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:02:43 2018 No.11532556 >>11532542 >incessantly brings up politics, niggers and jews in every thread on every board >gets mad when he is told to go back to his containment board No one likes you. It's a mean thing to say but it's true and you have to learn to live with that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:04:03 2018 No.11532566 >>11532537 Based China. Catholic-Chinese government system in the west when?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:05:10 2018 No.11532570 >>11532556 >stop making me think about things that go outside of the limits of acceptable mainstream discourse! embarassing. If politics bothers you, hide the thread.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:06:35 2018 No.11532575 >>11532382 >left-leaning political establishment in America No such thing

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:07:13 2018 No.11532580 >>11532449 The fact that she’s retarded might be a start

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:08:02 2018 No.11532584 She's such a babe.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:08:32 2018 No.11532587
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>>11532537

I hope someone is writing about this, the generation Z, the older echelon, you have the perfect candidates to write about this because you catched off the younger millennial wave but you grew up with the internet, your pattern recognition is pretty maximised if you're smart, if anyone is reading this and his astonishing at what is happening in the world right now please I encourage you to start writing, especially if you absolutely know you're good at identifying patterns, I'm to old, but this is a once in a lifetime opportunity, I would start by reading what was already been written from all political sides, then have a good grasp of evolutionary biology, also read about social engineering with AI because it's starting to play a big role, so much.. oh man.

>>11532544
You can have a functioning democracy provided a minimum average IQ, and things would work ok, but there are so many problems with democracies, especially today with the media, the media plays such a big role, we are living in such interesting times, I hope the smart young people start playing globalisation has an advantage, use crypto and smart contracts to create sovereign identities based on values, if they are going to do away with nation states, take advantage from that young ones. f

If I were to, I would start with this book, here's an interview with my good friend Peter Robinson https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AXBX3e1T64

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:08:53 2018 No.11532590

>>11532556

as i said, this is the tired old line that you people deploy to cast yourselves as the majority on any board you are targeting for colonisation.
the only reason you have a problem with political shit is that it's not your preferred kind of politics, that goes without saying.
this is why you are always ranting about /pol/ - you can talk all you want about politics while insisting that it's because those evil nazis are forcing you to. total bullshit.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:08:54 2018 No.11532591 >>11532548 If you think socialists and liberals are at all similar, you either have far too wide a definition of socialist, or are merely a simpleton

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:10:24 2018 No.11532597 >>11532531 >moderate >whos bro let’s have unlimited immigration and blame allcrime on the system #420blazeup

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:11:57 2018 No.11532601 File: 90 KB, 847x944, 47ito9mtbqoz.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11532597 Is she against private property? If she isn't, then she's not a problem for the people that choose who gets to rule you and is as such, not a dangerous element.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:13:08 2018 No.11532607

>>11532591

t. socialist dimwit
liberals tolerated you for years, ignorantly presuming you were on 'their side', and now that you have bred in their depths, you are erupting out from within their nurturing folds and devouring them
you are similar, by the way, when viewed by anyone who is neither a liberal nor socialist.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:14:20 2018 No.11532613

>>11532570
listen here redditor, every board is not /b/ you can;t just discuss politics on /lit/ and automotive on /tv/ and travel on /ck/ go to the appropriate board or meet me in real life so I we can settle this.

>>11532590
while your "political opinions" are hot garbage and not at all based on logic or reality I don't mind you having them, however repeating them incessantly in every thread on a board made for literature is against the rules friendo.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:14:36 2018 No.11532617 >>11532591 >pedantically and intentionally confusing "classical liberals" with modern American "liberals" who are basically soft-headed crypto-socialists yawn

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:17:12 2018 No.11532628

>>11532613
>listen here redditor, every board is not /b/ you can;t just discuss politics on /lit/ and automotive on /tv/ and travel on /ck/ go to the appropriate board or meet me in real life so I we can settle this.
Zizek is literature-related. And this board is basically a general humanities and society board that is more level-headed and literate than /pol/ or /his/.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:18:24 2018 No.11532633 >>11532628 so you refuse to meet me? I will drive up to 6 hours one way if you promise to fight me when I get there.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:19:31 2018 No.11532638 >>11532601 She’s for high corporate taxes. But agree, she’s no problem. Her votes for more foreign serfs will go through and her corporate tax policy will never see the light of day.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:19:54 2018 No.11532640 >>11532633 >literally fightme IRL,yo mammah Holy shit so this is you brain on /pol/.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:20:48 2018 No.11532648 >>11532607 Since when has anyone ever cared what the view from Kekistan looks like?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:22:54 2018 No.11532657 >>11532640 t. pussy who has never been in a physical altercation whatever bruh you would probably call the cops anyway. what's your height and weight?

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:23:16 2018 No.11532659

>>11532613

oh, i'm sure you don't. that's why you were claiming /lit/ as 'your' board, because you don't care. fucking freak, you can never just be honest about your intentions, you have to be as slimy and covert as you possibly can be.

>against the ruuuuuuuuuules!!!

this is exactly the cancerous attitude i was referring to.

>>11532628

you should have taken him up on the offer to settle him. i'd be happy to join you in panning his cunt head in.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:25:31 2018 No.11532671

>>11532537
I know this is bait but left wingers skew higher in IQ distributions than right wingers. the working class bumpkin whos never picked up a book im his life is almoat guarenteed to be right wing in the US. probably one of the reasons they are scared, if the working class vote finally goes left the right has no chance

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:25:33 2018 No.11532672 >>11532648 >le kekistan! more meme spouting from the grubby leddit settler

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:25:43 2018 No.11532676 >>11532657 >what's your height and weight? Ten inches up your mom's vagina

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:27:11 2018 No.11532680 >>11532659 I would have beaten both your asses worse than your beloved nazis were beaten in WW2.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:27:39 2018 No.11532681 >>11532570 >just hide all the blog posts, pol threads, shitposts, Jezebel posts, and browse the 8 other threads on /lit/ >t. janny

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:28:45 2018 No.11532685 >>11532353 She's the face of the changing demographics in the U.S. (more immigrants from shithole countries means more people who vote for socialist type governments, enjoy)

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:28:56 2018 No.11532686 >>11532680 i'm sure you would have, tough guy. until i teleported behind you. utter joke of a faggot.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:30:55 2018 No.11532692

>>11532537
There's no pattern you fag. People always vote for free gibs; It just happens that In america there's a culture of resistance to said gibs. Will it last? Who knows. Remember that all european countries voted themselves into economic stagnation long before there was any demographic change in them.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:31:42 2018 No.11532696

>>11532638
On this topic, I find it super interesting how the progressive left (That is, social democrats and what Americans understand as "liberal", not anti-capitalists) has become a perfectly acceptable option for the wealthy elite.
It's really quite clever, because they keep "class conscious" types and social activists (lgbt rights advocates, women's rights advocates, anti-racists, etc) from supporting actually dangerous movements, making them believe that by voting they're actually fighting against the system, while in reality the policies that those parties support fit the ruling class's needs perfectly (Such as laxer border policies, to import more easily exploitable, desperate third worlders) or are otherwise harmless, like gay rights

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:31:48 2018 No.11532699
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We are becoming Brazil. A nominally socialist second world shopping mall society, paralyzed by ethnic resentment, inequality, violence, and corruption, governed by a lighter-skinned mulatto cognitive upper class, who placate the sullen and swarthier masses by occasionally offering them affirmative action and welfare perks and referencing Jay Z, all while looting the empire dry and selling off its institutions to big business and financiers

We will probably be okay for a little while longer. Trump may have bought us a couple years. But he can only delay our collapse, not prevent it.

When mass automation makes the sub-100 IQers irrelevant, that's when I think shit will get real.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:31:49 2018 No.11532700 File: 5 KB, 275x183, lou.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11532537 >lower IQ people tend to vote for hard socialists

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:32:00 2018 No.11532701 >>11532544 Your pessimism already shows that current governments in the West already yield too much power. Fuck living in a dystopian hellhole likeChina or even Singapore, no matter how well organized it is.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:33:02 2018 No.11532707

>>11532659
>>11532676
the offer still stands pussies. I will drive 6 hours one way or you can buy me a roundtrip ticket if it's further than that. You can both come at me same time I promise I will stop hitting you after you pass out. Or if you doubt my honor have your boyfriend ready with his mommy's cellphone in hand to call the authorities.

I am 100% serious bitches. You always talk about blood and soil and violently purging your enemies, pretend I'm jewish and get this shit started. Don't talk about it be about it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:33:05 2018 No.11532708 File: 93 KB, 1144x717, edgy trad twitter (unironically).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11532320 /lit is clerico-fascist board, sweatie

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:33:06 2018 No.11532709 >>11532671 That's why the right doesn't like mass immigration from second and third world countries.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:33:07 2018 No.11532710 >>11532672 Says the stormfront refugee.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:33:56 2018 No.11532711 >>11532633 >>11532640 >>11532657 >>11532676 >>11532680 >>11532686 this is why people hate /pol/ baiting

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:35:02 2018 No.11532715 >>11532708 Evola is trash. >>>/x/

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:35:33 2018 No.11532717 >>11532699 Brazil has never been socialist you retard, I'm a brazilian, I would know.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:38:25 2018 No.11532728 >>11532699 t. retard

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:38:32 2018 No.11532729
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>>11532717
"Nominally" socialist you illiterate ape. Do the world a favor and learn English before posting on English language websites, not as you're posting on them

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:39:16 2018 No.11532735 >>11532729 PT isn't nominally socialist either, they're at the best another soc-dem party, which isn't socialism.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:40:08 2018 No.11532739 >>11532503 Its actually illegal to deny an undocumented alien access to American primary and secondary education.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:40:29 2018 No.11532741

>>11532735
And I don't even wanna mention the prolonged 2 years of absolute misery bought about by more US backed neoliberalism because you're just gonna imply I'm butthurt and that things are ACTUALLY getting better despite absolutely no evidence pointing towards it.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:40:48 2018 No.11532744

>>11532671
>I know this is bait but left wingers skew higher in IQ distributions than right wingers.
This is false, and somewhat ironic considering that left-leaning people like to deny the existence of IQ. Even if it were true, it would only mean that intellectuals value power, success, and social approval over truth, have an easier time rationalizing idiotic beliefs, and find it so easy to sentimentalize about poor unfortunate people because they've never actually met one.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:40:59 2018 No.11532749 >>11532729 >socdems are socialists now good to know that the soviets really did win the cold war

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:42:49 2018 No.11532751 >>11532395 Don't call me a nazi you faggot, I make Hitler look like Bernie Sanders

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:43:15 2018 No.11532755 >>11532686 >anon tries to maintain his dignity while extricating himself from a confrontation which would have surely ended in his death, the post

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:44:40 2018 No.11532761
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>>11532671
You don't understand, your college professor and champagne socialists, those are outliers, you really have no idea, In my firm we have a saying: "Academics are just naive fascists" you are also confusing liberal with leftist and right leaning with conservative, I'm center left and center right, but I'm a right winger.
The people who voted for trump? The richest, the people who voted for Chavez? For Lula? What do you think?
Bernie won, not Hillary, Hillary robbed him, remember?
At the end there is no right or left, only race/economic/IQ conflict, never forget this, remember the French Revolution.

>>11532692
Europeans aren't very smart on average either, statistically they are the sub Saharan africans to the Ashkenazi jewish people, remember this as well, and look at >>11532587 read that book.

You have to be a realist, like him.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:44:53 2018 No.11532762 >>11532744 >This is false, because they don't believe in it So, the people who fare better at the tests not believing in them should count as an argument against them, right?

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:45:20 2018 No.11532765

>>11532707

>Don't talk about it be it

t. 30 year old boomer
stop, you're embarrassing yourself.

>>11532711

is it /pol/ baiting or baiting /pol/?
trolling occurs on every board, /pol/'s shills are /lit/'s /pol/, and there is always somecunt who's having a laugh about it

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:45:20 2018 No.11532766 >>11532739 How is that even real? and do American leftist want to change any of that madness?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:46:40 2018 No.11532771 >american politics don't we have a board only for this?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:46:44 2018 No.11532772 >>11532699 You are right, remember this.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:47:16 2018 No.11532777 >>11532771 yeah. this thread is moving way too quickly to be anything more than /pol/bait

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:47:44 2018 No.11532780 >>11532735 >another soc-dem party, which isn't socialism. lel

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:47:45 2018 No.11532782 >>11532771 every board is american politics now

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:47:50 2018 No.11532784 >>11532765 >asking someone to back up their empty rhetoric is a meme sorry you look like a BITCH right now for backing down. I own your bitch ass now punk.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:48:52 2018 No.11532791 >>11532707 based and redpilled >>11532765 cringe and bluepilled

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:49:10 2018 No.11532794 >>11532780 >Ah you know, they're the kinds of socialists that support private property! Like black klan members that's gonna be a yikes for me

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:49:20 2018 No.11532796

>>11532766
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Undocumented_immigrant_students_in_the_United_States#Plyler_v._Doe
>School officials in Tyler, Texas, under the direction of Superintendent James Plyler, began charging $1,000 annual tuition to all undocumented students—about 60 from a student body of 1,600.[11] In September 1977, the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund (MALDEF) filed a class action on behalf of sixteen Mexican undocumented students of the Tyler district.

>The trial court found that the Texas law violated the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution because it amounted to a total deprivation of education without a rational basis.[

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:49:53 2018 No.11532797 >>11532765 >/pol/ bitches out, the post that guy just walked away with your balls anon

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:50:47 2018 No.11532800

>>11532671
for whites this is what I've found the distribution is:
>low IQ = conservative socially and economically unless they are a total failure in which case they might be far left/SJW, highly religious or spiritual (for lefties), may be into conspiracy theories, occasionally antisemitic if exposed to others who are also antisemetic
>mid IQ: always either liberal or moderate conservative, athiest or agnostic unless child of fundie christians in which case they are religious in name only and beneath the act are usually still agnostic, will never be antisemetic
actual intellectual class: mixed bag, defy classification into left/right materialist politics, can be antisemetic, more willing to be religious, don't have the fear of association with "stupid ideas" that holds back the middle tier

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:52:08 2018 No.11532807 >>11532765 dude quit being a pussy and just fight him

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:52:26 2018 No.11532809 >>11532449 A smart degenerate is still a better choice than a retarded pleb. It's why I voted for Hillary over Trump

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:52:39 2018 No.11532810 >>11532766 >and do American leftist want to change any of that madness? No, I'm not in favor of it either since I don't think we should punish children based on their idiotic parents. Instead do something like actually deport the entire families.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:53:33 2018 No.11532820 >>11532784 >>11532797 >/p-pol/ btfo! h-how do you like it f-word?! unless he's willing to drive into the atlantic, his posturing it unnecessary. puff yourselves up if you'd like, you're as mad as you are desperate

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:54:29 2018 No.11532826

>>11532809
Hillary wasn't even smart though, she was just a very good actor. Think about it, she spent her entire life developing her sociopathic tendencies for the sole purpose of becoming "ultra powerful woman leader" and in the end she lost to an orange con man. Liberals are fucking retarded.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:54:49 2018 No.11532827 >>11532820 do you live in an underwater sea lab? No ocean will protect you from me, Nazi boy!

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:55:18 2018 No.11532829

>>11532762
I said that your factoid was false, and that even if it did it does not necessarily mean that left-leaning positions are correct or even coherent. Intellectuals don't have a very good track record of resistence to idiotic and dangerous ideas. Many disastrous fascist, socialist, and communist revolutions of the last century got more initial support from the intellectual elite than from the general population.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:55:33 2018 No.11532831 >>11532807 see >>11532820 if he's willing to shell out hundreds of monopoly money to get badly fucked up, he's welcome to.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:57:25 2018 No.11532844

>>11532735
>>11532749
Where do you think the "social" part of social democracy comes from, exactly?
>"socdems are not real socialism because they don't go full retard, only half retard"
This is the kind of semantic nonsense that only appeals to socialists. My point is obviously that the United States is becoming a mystery meat hierarchy which pays lip service to inachievable and moronic socialist ideals of mass equality to acquire brown votes while selling out, like Brazil before it--not that either country is becoming a classless society without private property or that they have any real interest in doing so

I think half the reason people in the modern world identify as socialists isn't simply because they get confused by math--its because they get off on interjecting an "ACKSHULLY" into every political conversation that so much as grazes the topic

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:57:36 2018 No.11532845 >>11532829 >Intellectuals don't have a very good track record of resistence to idiotic and dangerous ideas. lmao my dude are you seriously trying to pretend you're wiser for being dumber?

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:59:20 2018 No.11532854

>>11532844
Except you don't know shit about Brazil. The "EVIL SOCIALISM THAT DESTROYED THE COU NTRY" you're talking about is quasi-charity welfare shit that's present in the US.
Wanna know what really fucks up our politics? Lobbying, though it has to be done under the wraps because we're not as uncivilized as the USA, who think that it's ok to have an actual organized lobbying community.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:59:38 2018 No.11532855 >>11532827 i live in the uk. if you are that desperate to get every tooth kicked out of your gobshite head, i'm up for it, but i have to know that you are going to pay for your ticket, so i can laugh at you after i'm done jumping on your head

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 15:59:52 2018 No.11532857

>>11532831
Look bruh, if you're that scared I can promise to try to stop once you get knocked down. It won't hurt that bad trust me. We can even get a beer afterwards(on you) and I'll let you talk to me about how treblinka doesn't add up or how Trump is a master strategist.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:01:31 2018 No.11532863 >>11532857 are you going to just gob shite like the bearded, diy larper manboy you are, or are you actually going to do this?

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:03:47 2018 No.11532872

>>11532845
No, I'm saying that high IQ people do not have a monopoly on wisdom. Intellectuals have a natural tendency towards utopianism, general ideas, and central planning if that tendency is not educated out of them. And the mass of half-educated intelligent people tend to support idiotic political systems.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:04:07 2018 No.11532874

>>11532844
From 120 year old parties that were actually marxist, unlike modern socdems. You insist in keeping calling social democrats, another cog in capitalist parliamentarianism, "socialists" which upsets the shit out of my inner confucian
Giving things appropriate names is fucking important, kill yourself

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:04:50 2018 No.11532881

>>11532854
> The "EVIL SOCIALISM THAT DESTROYED THE COU NTRY" you're talking about
That's not what I'm suggesting at all you illiterate ape, in fact I EXPLICITLY STATED OTHERWISE in the post which you clearly lack the cognitive ability to interpret correctly

Wait, why am I replying to you? I know you can't understand the words that I'm writing. I am speaking to a fucking retard who is trying to learn English by getting into political arguments on 4chan. There is absolutely no reason to continue speaking to you whatsoever; there is a fundamental inability on your part to understand what I'm saying.

Good-bye! Good-bye!

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:05:13 2018 No.11532883

>>11532829
you are getting your (You)s mixed up. anyway theres plenty of statistics out there dont take my word for it. personally if you are trying to figure out which party is "correct" you are already playing ideological freeze tag rather than meaningful politics.
>some times smart people make bad decisions
thank god stupid people have never been mistaken

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:06:01 2018 No.11532888 >>11532857 you still there big man? i'll buy you that pint, and you can tell me about all your favwit hawdcowe bands, your tranny dom and how your crack whore mummy let her pimp finger you as a young lad

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:06:26 2018 No.11532890 >>11532857 >t. california liberal who has never seen a nigger in his life Why don't you come down east where people aren't all massive faggots and I can give you the anal pounding you desperately want. Britanon can come too if you pay for his ticket.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:07:15 2018 No.11532892

>>11532863
well since it is further than a six hour drive you need to purchase my plane ticket per our earlier agreement. And I need to be back the next day as I am on parole and not technically allowed to leave the state. If I could stay at your house for the night that would also be greatly appreciated.

once you get the funds together post a temporary email address and I'll send you my information so you can fill out the ticket. Also save the receipt because I'd like to write it off on my taxes as a charitable business trip.

also what's your beef with beards? are you mad because you can't grow one?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:07:35 2018 No.11532894 >>11532883 >thank god stupid people have never been mistaken Not what I said at all.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:08:35 2018 No.11532896 >>11532892 >liberal >on parole I know for a fact that you are either LARPing or live in an almost entirely white state since nobody who has actually been to jail would come out a liberal

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:09:28 2018 No.11532901 >>11532896 but I'm not a liberal. I just like to fight

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:10:48 2018 No.11532906 >>11532890 what state cuz? you can get some too bitchboi

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:14:57 2018 No.11532925

>>11532894
no, you simply implied smart people have made poor political decisions in the past. if what you really meant was that anyone can make a poor political decisions, I could get on board. but otherwise its just some weird handwaving against the "half-educated intelligent people" like they are some special political threatbas opposed to the rest of the population. all I said was that in the general population, iq corrolation skews left. no editorialism, no inferance, just some basic statistics.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:15:24 2018 No.11532927 >>11532320 She is very smart and beautiful, though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:18:41 2018 No.11532942 >>11532906 Baltimore, MD. hit me up again if you're still alive after walking through downtown for a few minutes. Our blacks don't take kindly to faggots who think they are tough, you have to back it up here.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:19:18 2018 No.11532944

>>11532892

we didn't agree to anything you daft cunt, what are you on about? is this so you can puff yourself up even more and say 'see? he pussied out! i win!'
pay for your own fucking ticket. why the fuck should i spend money i worked for so a gobby american twat can have a holiday?
you can talk all the shite you want mate, you know well enough you'll never come here, so stop acting the hard man, unless you want to sell your shite car. makes no difference to me.

>i went to pwison you know!

for prostituting yourself. or having a wee fight outside of an ipa bar or something similar. jog on, sad larping poof.

>also what's your beef with beards?

my 'beef' is with the sort of gimpy cunt who says 'what's your beef', sad bastard. i've noticed a lot of gay american cunts grow out beards and shave their heads so they can look like big men. that you?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:20:13 2018 No.11532948 >>11532942 >Our blacks don't take kindly to faggots who think they are tough, you have to back it up here. well if you're still there then I have a feeling I'll be alright. They probably pass you around like currency though

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:21:05 2018 No.11532957 >>11532890 sounds good. big man ought to be able to pay, since he can afford a car. >>11532906 >bitchboi hysterical. you couldn't look any fucking faker if you tried, sugar puff.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:22:07 2018 No.11532962 >>11532948 here you are again, gobbing shite. stop fucking jabbering on and on and on and actually do something.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:22:57 2018 No.11532968 >>11532512 Strawman

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:23:50 2018 No.11532975 File: 157 KB, 992x880, spookstanza.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >capitalism >socialism

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:23:59 2018 No.11532978

>>11532320
I occasionally read r/chapo to see how people are reacting to her and it's all a big mystery. are they oblivious to the fact that they're marching headfirst into third-world socialism or are they just enjoying the ride?
is it the trump-effect? "at least my enemies are triggered"

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:25:59 2018 No.11532985

>>11532944
in addition to being a massive fag and a nazi are you also illiterate?? I know you're a fucking neat just ask your mom to buy my ticket have it come out of your tendy allowance.

you sound like that londonfrog fag when you type. Always bitching! I'm beginning to worry I'll be beating the shit out of a fat brown turd which is probably a hatecrime in your backwards country.

I am sorry you're threatened by men with beards but you need to get over it. Maybe your stepdad will teach you how to grow one someday. now quit fucking around and buy my ticket

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:26:49 2018 No.11532987 >>11532320 Any leftist who gets behind this dumb bitch and Cuck Sanders is 100% discredited

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:27:18 2018 No.11532991 >>11532957 >cars are considered a luxury in bongistan

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:28:20 2018 No.11532996 >>11532978 socdems in the us are basically new-new-dealers, they are far from "socialist" anywhere in the world outside of America

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:30:49 2018 No.11533003

>>11532962
look dude I'm not going to buy a ticket to go to some farm in england just to have you bitch out on me and hide under your bed when I get there. I've got to know you'll actually fight and tbqh most people in your pathetic country are afraid of violence (except the muslims)

what are there like 4 homicides a year in england? and the men I've seen from there are all effete dandies.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:30:50 2018 No.11533004 is anyone going to link where zizek backs her?

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:30:57 2018 No.11533006

Why are leftists such faggots now?

>Proud of a retarded 28 year old who lied about growing up in poverty in the bronx and can't even articulate her views when asked
>A cucked "democratic socialist" who folded to the establishment like a total coward
>A bunch of literal pedophile establishment hacks

What's going on over there guys. Not saying the majority of the republican establishment is that great, but the left is far worse at this point

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:31:57 2018 No.11533009 >>11533006 no such thing as a left wing in america bruv

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:34:29 2018 No.11533021

>>11532996
>implying there's a difference between liberals and leftists
Why is it that only Americans seem to have the brainpower to understand this? After the repeated economic and social failures of socialism, the left was subsumed into liberalism DECADES ago. The STD-ridden 68ers of yesteryear today have tenured positions in the Ivy league and run the CIA. The only "real" leftists in the modern world are the 110 IQ Chapo fanboys who are too stupid to figure what their forefathers did before them, and now function as the oblivious cultural storm troopers for the liberal world order.

Socdems are socialist in the sense that it is run by former and would-be socialists who continue the socialist tradition of civilizational brainrot.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:34:34 2018 No.11533023

>>11532985

>challenge someone to a fight
>well uh you'll have to buy my ticket and uh find me someplace to stay and uh...

thought so. gobshite making excuses for himself.

>I'm beginning to worry I'll be beating the shit out of a fat brown turd

lol! starts to feel a bit sweaty so he starts talking shite about the wogs to find common ground. too late for that big man.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:35:33 2018 No.11533029 File: 143 KB, 625x773, 1527237427580.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11533009 >anything that doesn't want to abolish private property is right-wing

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:37:05 2018 No.11533031 >>11533009 honestly this. leftism has shrunk from dictatorship of the proletariat to scraping the rich to keep the welfare state afloat. even 'progressive' democratic socialism is an inherently defeated premise

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:37:43 2018 No.11533035 >>11533031 >even 'progressive' democratic socialism is an inherently defeated premise explain

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:38:00 2018 No.11533037 >>11532320 Not literature

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:38:28 2018 No.11533040

>>11533029
>A left-wing existing in a system made up of two neo-liberal parties with slightly different surface level policies
I consider social democrats to be leftists, just moderate. But america has no social-democrats, besides very few democratic party one offs opposed by their own party.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:40:00 2018 No.11533046

>>11533003

i might get my shit kicked in and i might not, fair dos, but i know you're talking shite, so it doesn't really matter, does it?
you talk shite on 4chan, you tell me you want to go and then you demand i pay hundreds of pounds to get you over here.
which of us sounds like he's trying to wriggle out of this?

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:40:14 2018 No.11533048

>>11533023
you ain't scaring nobody fag I know you've never fought before. I am worried however that if I buy a ticket to whatever rural backwater you call a city I'll get there and see nothing but farmers fucking their sheep. You'll have given the sheep a day off and be hiding under your bed waiting until the big bad american goes home. and I'll be standing on that foggy shitstain you call a country with my massive dick in my hand and nothing but your ugly inbred women all around.

now if you want to come to the states I can pick you up from the airport and put you up but you'll have to buy your own ticket since we didn't agree that I would buy yours.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:41:25 2018 No.11533054 >>11533031 >democratic socialism I'm sure you mean social democracy, I'm not sure Mrs. Luxemburg has many fans in america

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:41:40 2018 No.11533056 >>11533040 >But america has no social-democrats, besides very few democratic party one offs opposed by their own party. hol up how are democrat socialists not social democrats?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:42:48 2018 No.11533058 >>11533046 look guv'nor I will not pay for a plane ticket it was in my agreement with you that if I had to drive further than 6 hours one way I wouldn't be able to provide transportation.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:43:58 2018 No.11533064 File: 34 KB, 500x282, smug-pepe-the-frog[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >tfw the right-wing won the thread >again Nice work, boys. Pack it in

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:44:31 2018 No.11533066 >>11533009 >oi do I gets to pahticipayte in dis heah tred about american politics lol fuck off dumb bong

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:46:25 2018 No.11533073 >>11533064 you may have won the thread but I WILL win the fight

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:46:27 2018 No.11533074

>>11533056
This is quite confusing, I know.
Democratic socialism opposes capitalism, but insists on the necessity of free political discourse and something resembling capitalist democracy in the socialist state. Hence, Rosa Luxemburg:
>Freedom only for the supporters of the government, only for the members of one party – however numerous they may be – is no freedom at all. Freedom is always and exclusively freedom for the one who thinks differently. Not because of any fanatical concept of "justice" but because all that is instructive, wholesome and purifying in political freedom depends on this essential characteristic, and its effectiveness vanishes when "freedom" becomes a special privilege.(...)But socialist democracy is not something which begins only in the promised land after the foundations of socialist economy are created; it does not come as some sort of Christmas present for the worthy people who, in the interim, have loyally supported a handful of socialist dictators. Socialist democracy begins simultaneously with the beginnings of the destruction of class rule and of the construction of socialism."

Social democracy strives to improve the conditions of the workers inside a capitalist framework. So, Bernie is a social democrat, not a democratic socialist. Rosa Luxemburg, who supported a violent revolution against the capitalist state, was a democratic socialist, not a social democrat.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:50:01 2018 No.11533084 >>11533074 Who the fuck cares. They're both communist retards who don't understand economics, the nuances are irrelevant

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:50:50 2018 No.11533087 >>11533084 galaxy brain post

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:51:39 2018 No.11533090 TWITTOCRACY

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:54:05 2018 No.11533098 >>11533046 you still there limey? come stateside bruh I'll kick your ass and then I'll buy you a nice dinner, but it will be one you'll have to eat without teeth.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:54:12 2018 No.11533099 >>11532580 yet you support drumpf and the GOP?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:56:47 2018 No.11533106 >>11533074 ...Okay that's interesting But doesn't Bernie advocate for Democratic Socialism tho? He wants socialism

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 16:59:06 2018 No.11533115 >>11532382 Not true because she shares their values.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 17:00:08 2018 No.11533120 >>11532809 Trump more neatly fits into the category of a "smart degenerate."

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 17:02:09 2018 No.11533129

>>11533074
the qualitative difference is the amount of gibs.
socdem is just a dysgenic time bomb. you're not destroying class rule, you're cultivating an ecosystem that grows more vulnerable with each generation. pour some ethnic conflict and automatization into the mix and people will eventually be asking for something spicier than bernie sanders

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 17:04:42 2018 No.11533141 How long till she appears on Chapo?

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 17:05:23 2018 No.11533145

>>11533106
He may call what he wants "socialism", but it isn't socialism in the traditional, marxist sense. (Abolition of private property, worker control of the means of production)
It's quite a fucking mess, since everyone has begun calling everything even remotely associated with the left "Socialism". That way, you get stupid arguments such as "Nordic countries are socialists, and so is Venezuela!", when they're both examples of capitalist societies (With massively different levels of success, obviously), with a lot of government intervention.
>>11533129
But socdems do not want to abolish classes. In my evidently biased, far-left opinion, they're the equivalent of releasing steam in the capitalist locomotive. Parties that don't threaten the established order, but keep the proles happy that they have a left-wing government.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 17:06:31 2018 No.11533153 >>11532320 How can you not praise her? What she did was remarkable. It's refreshing to see good, decent people getting elected for a change.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 17:10:12 2018 No.11533167 >>11533056 >how are democrat socialists not social democrats? Jesus Christ. These are the people you post with on /lit/. How do you people not have basic political literacy?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 17:11:58 2018 No.11533173 >>11533167 Hey anon, at least he's asking and not pretending to know about things he has no clue about. If everyone did that, we could avoid 80% of the trash that is political discourse nowadays

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 17:21:45 2018 No.11533213 How is this related to literature? Who's this person?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 17:23:48 2018 No.11533223 >>11533213 the mods have the day off and they said /pol/ was in charge while they're gone.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 17:25:06 2018 No.11533228 >>11532369 Not brooklyn, parts of the bronx and queens. Flyover ass faggot

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 17:27:11 2018 No.11533237 >>11533228 >Not brooklyn, parts of the bronx and queens. No she lied about that, she mostly grew up in a middle class suburb and LARP'd like a "bronx girl" because she's a retarded shameless lying cunt like every leftist politician

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 17:28:35 2018 No.11533243 >>11533237 >politicians lying is related in anyway to their political alignment

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 17:28:49 2018 No.11533246 >>11532503 Because then we'll have retarded illegal immigrants running around and that's worse

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 17:29:44 2018 No.11533250

>>11533243
>their argument sucks so they have to lie about their uprbinging to cater to the leftist's childish romantic archetype of the "working class underdog" who rises to leadership
>Just a waitress from the bronx ;)

Stoked to see some debates with her some day

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 17:30:26 2018 No.11533253 >>11533223 They really need to start banning /pol/sters. Any type of /pol/ster (e.g. leftypol, rightypol, trumppol, nazipol, et cetera) should be removed from posting here since we know that most of them are underage.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 17:30:40 2018 No.11533255 >>11532493 >caring about "people" in as an abstract

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 17:31:01 2018 No.11533259 File: 151 KB, 421x500, 1385863065291.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] r*ghtoids itt

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 17:31:19 2018 No.11533261 >>11533237 That anon wasn't talking about where she grew up in.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 17:35:07 2018 No.11533284 >>11533261 oh ya

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 17:36:29 2018 No.11533295 File: 5 KB, 271x186, download.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11533253

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 17:40:59 2018 No.11533318

>>11533074
>the workers
Can somebody please explain who these "workers" leftists constantly refer to are? America is mostly post-industrial. The only people in this country who can be considered "working class" are welfare-leeches, illegals, and Trumpers. Or is the "working class" everybody who is buttmad about not being rich and powerful?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 17:43:09 2018 No.11533328 >>11533318 have you ever been to america?

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 17:43:38 2018 No.11533332

>>11533318
I've never understood terms like "Working class" or "the workers" or any of that shit means

Doesn't everybody who's not on welfare work in America? I understand if you say "People who live in rural areas" or "People who live in poverty-stricken urban areas", but terms like "WORKERS" just seems...weird. Or even "Blue collar workers" makes sense

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 17:43:57 2018 No.11533335

>>11533318
In marxist terms, there exist two classes:
Those who own the means of production, and those who must sell their labour to survive.
By "worker" it is meant anybody belonging to the second group. So no, not only miners and industrial workers are "Workers".

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 17:44:37 2018 No.11533338 >>11533318 >>11533332 If you sell your labour for a wage you're a worker. It's not a hard concept to understand.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 17:44:40 2018 No.11533339 >>11533318 Also, America isn't really "post-industrial". Most jobs outside of Urban areas are usually trades/industrial

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 17:45:41 2018 No.11533344 >>11533338 >If you sell your labour for a wage you're a worker. It's not a hard concept to understand. Yeah but doesn't like 95% of people with an income do that?

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 17:46:15 2018 No.11533347

>>11533335
>In marxist terms, there exist two classes:
>Those who own the means of production, and those who must sell their labour to survive.
Only works if the society is goods and not service-oriented. For example, which Marxist category would a Wall Street trader fall into?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 17:47:00 2018 No.11533354 >>11533344 It's like workers are the majority of people or something...

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 17:47:13 2018 No.11533356

>>11533318
America is not mostly post industrial, the USA has the second biggest manufacturing economy on the planet, and as the USA becomes more withdrawn the need for industrial manufacturing will only increase. This is why Trump is trying to re-vitalize the steel industry so the USA can become more self-reliant. With the USA's massive size, young population and resources, there is no reason why the country can't be be both a massive service AND manufacturing economy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 17:48:04 2018 No.11533362 >>11533338 Then everybody who is employed is a worker, from 15-year-old Johnny at Chick-Fil-A to CEOs and heads of state.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 17:48:57 2018 No.11533366 >>11533347 They invest and take part in businesses yeah? They're a sort of short-lived business owners, then.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 17:50:07 2018 No.11533371

serious question; is trump more left wing than most democrats? his constant talks of wanting to help american workers, bring back factories, wanting to force companies to work in USA, and go against the cite elites feels like basic communist talking points.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 17:50:16 2018 No.11533372 Isn't this a board for books?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 17:50:16 2018 No.11533373 >>11533354 I just don't understand the differentiation. Who are they even talking to when they say "Workers"? It's assumed nearly everybody works. Even CEOs are workers, so I don't get it Or, who aren't the workers?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 17:51:12 2018 No.11533378 >>11533362 Of course there are subdivisions within marxist classes, a lumpen is not the same as someone from the workers' aristocracy, and the owners of massive multinational corporations are not the same as the owner of your local bakery.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 17:51:28 2018 No.11533379 >>11533371 Trump unironically reminds me of fascist economics >just do whatever you need to do at that moment regardless of economic theories/principles

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 17:52:55 2018 No.11533389 >>11533371 Why do you think there were Bernie supporters turned Trump? The American "left" isn't left wing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 17:53:21 2018 No.11533390 >>11533389 >Why do you think there were Bernie supporters turned Trump? This never happened.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 17:53:46 2018 No.11533392
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lol at Conservatives being so triggered about Ocasio-Cortez they have to even post on a book forum about their contempt for her. You guys are going to be especially upset when she wins the presidential election in 2024.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 17:54:05 2018 No.11533395 >>11533379 >just do whatever you need to do at that moment regardless of economic theories/principles ....Sounds pretty reasonable to me. Maybe starting with theories/principles first is the wrong way to go.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 17:54:46 2018 No.11533397 >>11533390 don't kid yourself. Bernie even came out after he lost the primary and urged his base not to vote Trump https://www.npr.org/2017/08/24/545812242/1-in-10-sanders-primary-voters-ended-up-supporting-trump-survey-finds

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 17:55:40 2018 No.11533400 In the past men were physically coerced to become slaves. Now we're "educated" to become slaves "voluntarily" and shame those with enough sense to not want to work under people.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 17:55:47 2018 No.11533402 File: 349 KB, 757x632, 1506981600313.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11533392 >tfw no thicc latina socialist gf

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 17:57:19 2018 No.11533412

>>11532320
Trudeau, Macron, and this bitch becoming popular scares me. Not because I necessarily disagree with their views, but because we're clearly moving towards selecting candidates for traits like youth and physical attractiveness, rather than capability.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 17:58:57 2018 No.11533415

I understand universal healthcare. But I dont understand tuition free college. We should be encouraging less people to go to college, not more. One of the biggest problem's with today's economy is that jobs that SHOULDN'T require a degree, in fact do, because there are simply so many people going to college. Its basically become a scam where college is now required for any job, even if a month-long training program would do just as well. How many people do you know, who have degrees in philosophy or english or art, have a job in the business world that has no relation? This applies to lots of people. It seems like an absolute waste to spend so much labor and resources of giving everyone a college education, especially since you can find almost any text or lecture online.

Instead of pushing for tuition free college, push for job training programs

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 17:59:47 2018 No.11533420 >>11533318 >>11533332 What jobs do you guys work? You both seem very insulated.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:00:15 2018 No.11533421 >>11533412 Macron was infinitely more capable than Le Pen

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:00:19 2018 No.11533424 >>11533415 Sounds all well and good but try telling people that you're going to block access to education which is typically see as a path for social mobility and see how it all goes over.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:01:01 2018 No.11533426

>>11533412
people are tired of super old politicians. in today's world it really does seem like younger, attractive candidates produce better results. trudeau and macron are some of the most popular leaders in the world with the best image, and obama was similarly young and encouraging; the USA's reputation was its best in decades because of him. more and more its feeling like old politicians are just totally out of touch.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:01:22 2018 No.11533429 >>11533415 I feel like jobs should have 'on the job training' and shouldn't force you to go to college. It would make more sense.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:01:26 2018 No.11533430 >>11533415 Because one shouldn't restrict education to those who come from wealthy families.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:01:41 2018 No.11533431 >>11532751 Show me that you are, sir. I require evidence to know if that's true.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:02:39 2018 No.11533435 File: 12 KB, 220x331, 220px-BryanCaplan.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11533415 We get it Bryan. You hate college.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:03:18 2018 No.11533436

>>11533424
So the solution is to make education not required for social mobility. In fact this was a problem largely created by universities in the first place. post WW2 workers didnt need a college degree to afford a nice home for their family. but now that everyone needs a degree, its basically become required to have any kind of successful life at all.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:04:09 2018 No.11533437

>>11533426
>Trudeau
>Obama
>Macron

All of these people are utter failures and all of them have/will create right-wing backlashes.

Trudeau literally sold off Canada's gold reserves to fund welfare for refugees. Macron isn't quite as bad as the other two, but he's clearly very immature as he just was caught with a secret/private police force who he had beating protestors in the streets. After he was caught, he ran away for a week and then awkwardly came back and mocked people for caring

Oh wait, I just realized your post was b8. Dammit, good job

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:04:24 2018 No.11533439 >>11533400 Hierarchy is a brute fact of human society, and even if it were possible for naturally inequal individuals to live as equals, it would require unimaginable tyranny to get there. Deal with it or kill yourself.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:05:29 2018 No.11533446 >>11533439 Hierachy is the root of all evil join your local anarchist commune

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:06:45 2018 No.11533452

>>11533426
The fact that people seriously believe this is what scares me. The popularity of Trudeau and Obama has nothing to do with their efficacy as statesmen. They're both incredibly mediocre politicians, and there would be plenty of older and more experienced candidates who would've done a better job. Good-looking leaders don't produce better results, they produce better photo ops, which give people the illusion of better results. It's instagram leadership.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:07:05 2018 No.11533454

>>11533430
The internet and libraries means anyone can access the best philosophical and historical texts. Youtube means they can look at most important lectures. What more does someone need? Is being in a college room with a lecturer really THAT important to learning knowledge? do we really need to waste more money on dorms, textbooks, lecture halls, teachers just for this?

Besides, "education" is not what people care about, what they care about is having the right credentials for a job. The solution is not to give everyone an education but to reduce the credentials needed for most jobs.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:08:23 2018 No.11533460 >>11533426 >the USA's reputation was its best in decades because of him. Who cares what random Europeans think about the US? Of course, the enemies of the United States loves Obama's bipolar tendency to meek cowardice and untimely aggression.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:08:31 2018 No.11533461

>>11533415
>>11533424

This is just like how all things expected of Capital get dumped on the worker or the state.
Job training, medical and pension are the responsibility of the owner, bc he does the same for any of his machines on the site.
If he must program the machine, maintain the machine and repurpose it or sell it later, why is the human machinery left to die, or be cared for by the state when the wages aren't remotely enough for basic care?

The employer provided the training, the medical and the pension in the post ww2 era, and it was the strongest era of prosperity and social mobility ever, only slowed by the oil crisis and Reaganomics.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:08:41 2018 No.11533462

>>11533436
Social mobility is largely a myth in the first place. Anyway the problems you're describing come down to the economy at large, not just too many people going to university. It's not some quick fix. You reduce the numbers and you're still going to have the same problems. They could afford a home with a basic job because the economic conditions were entirely different.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:09:01 2018 No.11533465 >>11533437 meanwhile Trump is setting the USA up for years of prosperity and self-reliance and everyone hates him for it. The truth is that young people are just stupid, they dont understand how the world really works.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:09:16 2018 No.11533467 >>11533439 Weird thing about contemporary hierarchies is that they have almost no connection to innate ability. It feels like an aristocracy in that sense.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:10:42 2018 No.11533473 >>11533452 Obama is a constitutional lawyer and was a State Senator for a long long time

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:10:49 2018 No.11533474

>>11533454
You try to get a job requiring college level education and tell them that you're at that level but self-educated, see how well it goes.

I agree that university education shouldn't be perceived as an absolute requirement to have a normal life, but trying to reduce the amount of people in universities via kicking out all the dirty dirty proles because they were born to families that can't support the expenses actively undermines the meritocracy that capitalists like to claim their system is.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:11:40 2018 No.11533478

>>11533462
its awkward to say, but a big problem was that women entered the workforce en masse. suddenly the value of labor was quickly slashed and men/women were now competing for separate housing and spots in college, which made the price of both to skyrocket. nowdays women arent having kids until their 30s; that is just not a sustainable thing for economics.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:12:58 2018 No.11533485

>>11533467
>Weird thing about contemporary hierarchies is that they have almost no connection to innate ability.
Yeah, just like the 160+ IQ MIT/Caltech grads who have become part of the financial 0.01% through quantitative trading. They just came by it! Anybody could have done it, if they had the same opportunities!

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:13:45 2018 No.11533488

>>11533478
The value of labour has fallen so much because of globalization. Women are a pretty small part of it. You're competing with practically the entire world for your job which is why competition is so fierce. It's a race to the bottom and it's not going to get better.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:14:42 2018 No.11533491

>>11533474
>You try to get a job requiring college level education and tell them that you're at that level but self-educated, see how well it goes.
The reason why it doesn't go well is because there are SO MANY people with a degree, so businesses have no reason to choose someone without it. Also I am not referring to jobs that require skilled work like doctors or engineering, but most jobs in the business world where someone could easily do them with a few months of training.

Having college be the "normal" path for people is one of the worst decisions we've ever made as a society.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:14:48 2018 No.11533492 >>11533478 Be specific. It was white people who were targeted with that jewish propaganda and it's white people who are affected by it. You can't fix the problem unless you name the enemy creating it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:14:49 2018 No.11533493 >>11533473 >state senator from 7 years >long long time He was a kid. A smart kid, but a kid nonetheless.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:16:28 2018 No.11533501 >>11533485 The people who run culture and police the overton window don't have IQs of 160. The rare rich genius isn't the problem, the problem is that HR managers are getting more say in determining the hierarchy.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:18:48 2018 No.11533517

>>11532671
>I know this is bait but left wingers skew higher in IQ distributions than right wingers
This only makes sense when you consider social views. Liberal social views are correlated with higher intelligence than wanting to restrict people's rights and activities. But when it comes to economics this is not true. Libertarians and free-market economists tend to be smarter than socialists.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:18:53 2018 No.11533518

>>11533430
Ideally, access to higher education would be given exclusively to the cognitive elite. Nowadays everybody in the middle class with an IQ at or over 104 goes to college.

>>11533454
Being with the best and brightest minds of one's age is the most important aspect of an elite university education.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:19:33 2018 No.11533520 >>11533491 But this doesn't change the jobs or anything else. You have less people with degrees but what then? You still have the same amount of people vying for the same jobs. Nothing has changed.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:19:55 2018 No.11533524 >>11533461 Calm down kiddo. Employers used to hire people after having them do iq tests. Now it's haram so they resort to looking at their college degrees instead. No need to throw a hissyfit.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:20:28 2018 No.11533526

>>11533493
Since when is seven years not a lot of experience?
I'm 34 and believe me, 7 years in one job is a good amount.

Unless you actively want to be subject to Octogenarian rule, essentially the Senilocracy we saw in Reagan, GHWB and Trump, all men in their 70s in their first terms, you need to get a grip

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:21:58 2018 No.11533528 >>11533524 That's a straight up lie. Most middle class jobs required only high school.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:23:41 2018 No.11533531 >>11533528 Found the boomer, guys

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:24:48 2018 No.11533535 >>11533531 Not an argument, summer

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:25:09 2018 No.11533536

>>11533439
I'm not an egalitarian. Even Marx and Engels opposed egalitarianism. I'm talking about wage slavery, which even Republicans used to oppose. It's essentially the same as chattel slavery in ancient Rome: unless you're born into wealth you have to buy your freedom.

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:25:27 2018 No.11533538

>>11533526
Being in ones mid-to-late 50s is a good middle ground between experience and vigor. My point is that we shouldn't be seeing 30-something year old national leaders like Macron and Trudeau. They rarely have the experience necessary to intuitively know how to run complex systems

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:27:12 2018 No.11533543 >>11533538 Age =\|= Aptitude Look how poorly most 50something CEOs manage even moderately sized systems

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:27:28 2018 No.11533545 I bet $1000 that she's going to be the next VP.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:28:52 2018 No.11533553 >>11533255 >in as an abstract

Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:31:30 2018 No.11533563

>>11533543
It's not that age leads to aptitude, it's that aptitude requires age. And this is mostly the case when it comes to large systems that require lots of delegation and diplomacy. Small, closed off systems that don't require working with other people are different story.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:42:14 2018 No.11533606 >>11533563 Circular reasoning. >it's not that age=aptitude it's that aptitude=age Unfortunately for you that's just like your opinion which has no factual basis

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:44:03 2018 No.11533615 >>11533606 There's nothing circular about it. Not everyone who's old will be apt, but everyone who's apt will be old. It's a logically simple statement.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:44:08 2018 No.11533616 >>11532320 um....lit is socdem since when?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:48:53 2018 No.11533631 >>11533615 It's simple because it is circular, it appeals to itself.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:52:39 2018 No.11533647 >>11533631 >t. logiclet all A's are B's does not imply that all B's are A's. All military personnel are adults, not all adults are military personnel

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 18:59:17 2018 No.11533671 >>11533647 Military in the West, as it is an arbitrary standard. Child Soldiers are common in the world, similarly many decorated ww2 soldiers were in the military illegally. You just keep blowing your own stupid opinion right out

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 19:02:12 2018 No.11533679 >>11533671 Holy shit are you trolling? google "formal logic valid vs. sound". here it is in rough notation too A>B =/= B>A A>B = ~B>~A

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 19:02:39 2018 No.11533681 >>11533631 >All humans are mammals but not all mammals are humans >this statement constitutes circular reasoning Are you really this retarded?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 19:08:03 2018 No.11533700 >>11533679 Don't bother, he obviously has a severely low IQ

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 19:16:43 2018 No.11533745 >>11532320 is that rupee car?

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 19:18:47 2018 No.11533754 >>11533681 >implying language isn't self-referential and thus necessarily circular shoo shoo, brainlet

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 19:26:42 2018 No.11533793 >>11532353 A liberal socdem that should be hanged for being a statist. t. Anarchist

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 19:28:24 2018 No.11533804 >>11532699 >nominally socialist the only thing you got right there

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 19:28:53 2018 No.11533806 Btw if you support capitalism you're a liberal too, you pathetic cucks. Lol.

>>	Anonymous Sat Jul 28 19:37:54 2018 No.11533852 >>11532395 You wish, lel

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 00:03:02 2018 No.11534996 /lit/ is anarchist board, you statist fucks might as well stop reading now, you'll never make it

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 02:33:36 2018 No.11535614 >>11533064 >it is another /pol/fag pretending the thread Clearest example that you guys lost lol

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 02:40:03 2018 No.11535631

>>11532522
As opposed to what, willful and blind ignorance of the state of human affairs? Offering only to justify the greed of their fellow men as they race to become the new Whores of Babylon? Do you see what I've done here, and why your argument is shit?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 02:41:29 2018 No.11535638 >>11532320 > This is literally lit: the person, in terms of her political views. No it isn't, and it literally never has been

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 02:41:36 2018 No.11535639 >>11532766 >>11532796 don't forget California before it became El Norte again https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Proposition_187#Legal_challenges

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 02:43:54 2018 No.11535646

>>11532671
You literally haven't looked into this issue at all, have you?

Social conservatives vote right, typically have lower IQ
Economic leftists vote left, typically also have lower IQ

Social conservatives is skewed heavily by minorities, who vote as leftists despite being socially conservative

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 02:45:23 2018 No.11535650 >>11532320 /lit/ is a christian board with diverse political views, definitely further right skewed in the past 3 or so years

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 02:46:29 2018 No.11535656 >>11535650 >things that only happened in my head

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 02:48:02 2018 No.11535660 >>11535656 What's your view on the general consensus of /lit/ then?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 03:00:32 2018 No.11535703 >>11535660 >>11535650 Whatever old /lit/ was, it was definitely not a Christian one, the Christian board was /pol/

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 03:17:17 2018 No.11535754 Absolutely based. I like Trump and voted for him only because of foreign policy and cutlure war shit. I agree with Cortez on economic policy. Conservashits are fucking stupid..

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 03:26:49 2018 No.11535795 >>11532699 >>11533804 How dumb do you have to be to think this? >second world Oh, that kind of dumb.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 04:01:57 2018 No.11535913 >>11535703 It had ups and down, but the true Christian boards were the smaller boards. The anti-Christian neetsocs and shitposters about muh dead kike on a stick have always been on /pol/.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 04:08:57 2018 No.11535933

>>11533426
>Macron
>popular
Non-French detected. Macron is hated beyond what Sarkozy could only ever dream of being hated.
Even among the neoliberal (whatever the name) politicians, Merkel is much better regarded and she's been accurately described as an unfuckable old hag.
At least in western countries the whole argument is nonsensical, the population is aging, and the participation in politics is much higher among older people. No one is elected by larping "how do you do fellow kids". In fact Macron did his best among older people.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 04:10:43 2018 No.11535940 >>11535913 >the board that created and shilled Chirst-Chan is the anti-Christian you guys Please fuck off with your history revisionism

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 05:12:37 2018 No.11536108

>>11535913
Christposting was a fucking meme or, if you will, a fad. I actually suspect many of the christposters back then are the JBP posters of today because he preaches more or less the same things only ironically, but he has the added benefit of not forcing the college crowd to read anything and being easier to bait with.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 05:13:39 2018 No.11536110 >>11536108 i did a wrong, quote go here >>11535650

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 05:16:21 2018 No.11536115 >>11532617 snap Another one for the cringe collection

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 05:19:07 2018 No.11536122 >>11532766 Education is a human right. Cut spending to military and this could easily be funded.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 05:19:56 2018 No.11536126 >>11536108 >I actually suspect many of the christposters back then are the JBP posters of today I thought so too, considering their similar posting styles and tactics.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 05:31:09 2018 No.11536156 >>11532395 fuck off s*ylet

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 05:35:47 2018 No.11536166 File: 37 KB, 270x275, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11532395

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 05:36:44 2018 No.11536170 >>11536122 You have the near entirety of human knowledge on your computer anon

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 05:42:28 2018 No.11536180 >>11532320 that dude has a strange hairline

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 05:45:05 2018 No.11536190 File: 2.47 MB, 480x270, herpaderpaderp.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11532537 >Lower IQ people tend to vote for hard socialists

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 06:24:08 2018 No.11536268 >>11532791 >>11532707 >>11532765 it's the opposite. prove me right. you can.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 06:33:49 2018 No.11536281 She's a goofy hispanic girl that was just working as a bartender and it's for a district that's majority people of color. She is probably a good thing. At least she might represent her district's interests

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 06:34:57 2018 No.11536283 >>11532888 >implying this leftist queer likes hardcore bet any amount of money he listens to Tame Impala

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 06:36:19 2018 No.11536287 >>11536170 >implying uneducated people can use the internet effectively and for a major part of their day Also the internet's search algorithms and functions will just place into an echo chamber

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 06:37:23 2018 No.11536288 >>11536190 What do you think the working class translates too lmao

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 06:37:38 2018 No.11536290 how did you mongs get baited into a 300 response thread over this shit? jesus summer christ....

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 06:38:27 2018 No.11536292 >>11536287 >Internet search algorithms put you in an echo chamber >Therefore I deserve to go to university for free

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 06:39:11 2018 No.11536294 >>11532657 >bruh >>11532707 I don't know why you're talking about fighting on /lit/ but I'd meet you, beat you in a fight, and maybe hangout before you drive back home. I live in the SF bay area

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 06:39:50 2018 No.11536297 >>11536292 That is not what I meant retard, I only said the internet is no substitute for actual basic education.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 06:45:00 2018 No.11536309

>>11536292
Whether or not we should be able to go to uni for free. (note that I lean toward yes + say that as someone who leans toward fascism)

The fact that the debt is government ensured, and the prices of college in this country speak to a serious problem. Do you just hate Americans?

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 06:47:47 2018 No.11536315 >>11532495 >bait >muh it only makes sense (You)

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 06:49:32 2018 No.11536321 >>11532503 Irony of saying this on a anon forum

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 06:49:59 2018 No.11536323 >>11536309 he is an American. Only Americans sit around bickering whether their citizens should go $100k into debt to receive education. It probably explains why some many of you guys are fucking morons.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 06:50:41 2018 No.11536325 >>11532809 >gets outsmarted by a degenerate hehe

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 06:53:22 2018 No.11536334

>>11532503
undocumented immigrants (and temporary work visa immigrants) are net benefit to welfare state because they cannot access food stamps or welfare or social security like regular citizens. It's the same reason the Europeans have to sneakily import muslims peasants now because it turns out you cannot support a welfare state with a native population whose birthrate is declining and in which 50% of the people are over 50.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 06:53:31 2018 No.11536335 >>11536323 And he has the very American fault of otherizing other Americans because of our ultra tribal politics

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 06:54:38 2018 No.11536341 >>11532537 The line drawn for "low IQ" is also the line drawn for people that don't vote Regardless if you're not voting with money you're not really voting in America

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 06:55:22 2018 No.11536342 File: 36 KB, 720x648, 1495587756387.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11532537 >PPE taking over God help you China, it only goes downhill from here

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 06:57:00 2018 No.11536343 >>11536323 >>11536335 kill yourselves faggots >>11536309 I like Australia's system

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 06:59:08 2018 No.11536350 >>11536342 (People's Republic of) China organ harvests from a rival sociopolitical faction. God help the world if the chink dragon rises

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 06:59:23 2018 No.11536351 >>11536190 Nice try but Republicans have proven higher IQ than the alternative. Though even them still have a middlebrow IQ, otherwise they would have gone for Ron Paul long ago.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 07:02:54 2018 No.11536362
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>>11532671
Literally untrue.
Done also with Labor and Tories in the UK, and in other countries.
>inb4 some study about "conservatism"
Only party affiliation is relevant, you can redefine anything you want as "X wing" position.

Anonymous Sun Jul 29 07:23:08 2018 No.11536402

>>11535646
Minorities in America are not "socially conservatives". They have little care or even open opposition to personal defense, responsibility, heritage procedures of the west, deregulation (and that's not purely "economic"), etc...
Even in bait topics relating to degenerate behavior they are less "conservative". They do more drugs, have children out of wedlock without blinking an eye, etc. I honestly can't think of a profligacy that is not more prevalent among American minorities.
I guess they are "conservatives" because they don't like fags which is probably what is meant here.

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 11:37:02 2018 No.11537170 >>11535795 You're not making much sense

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 12:12:18 2018 No.11537321 >>11533793 unironically this

>>	Anonymous Sun Jul 29 14:28:35 2018 No.11537916 shes good and cute and i love her socialism will win

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