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>Clay Shirky, a digital media scholar at New York University, suggested in a 2008 blog post that we shouldn't waste our time mourning the death of deep reading- it was overrated. "No one reads War and Peace, he wrote...it's too long, and not too interesting...Now that the Internet has granted us abundant "acess", Shirky concluded, we can at last lay those tired habits aside (111).
Reminder reading a book is a useless anachronism; you'd be better off skimming spark notes for 100 books than fully reading a single one.

>> No.11528560
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11528560

How long until the United States collapes and takes the present liberal capitalist order with it? Enough of this bullshit, I'm ready for a new dark ages now.

>> No.11528571

>some retard has a dumb opinion
>he's also american
this is the most ordinary thing to get mad over

>> No.11528599

>>11528571
>>11528560
It's not a dumb opinion.Say you have a project for a hard science class, and your literature teacher says read Moby Dick and write an essay. A smart and adaptable student will recognize how little utility there is in reading about whale facts. He'll buy an essay online, put all his effort into his project, get into a good STEM program, and have a good life. Meanwhile here you are on 4chan.

>> No.11528724

>>11528599
downvote

>> No.11528727
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>>11528599
>A smart and adaptable student will recognize how little utility there is in reading about whale facts.

lol you honestly think that don't you?

>> No.11528750

>>11528599
>"hurr durr"
>is on 4chan /lit/

>> No.11528770

>How to Blame Your Personal Issues On Other Things
I summed up all the self-help books for you. Get properly educated or get fucked.

>> No.11528793

To play devils advocate here: war and peace was serialised over more than two years. Have any of you read the book? You can barely go 5 pages without finishing a mini-mini chapter or 20 pages without finishing a mini-chapter.

I think that Humanities academia pretensions allied with Jewish scholar autism have combined to produce a culture that venerates long, uninterrupted passages. Or possibly this trend comes mainly from the continental philosophy tradition. You pick up Gravity's Rainbow and have no chapter breaks except for the 1000 page book being broken up in to a few sections. Surely this must indicate that it all adds up to something in an elaborate yet perfectly planned way?!

>> No.11529807

>>11528727

Is that Sucario?

>> No.11530452

>>11528599
The marketability of a particular skill is only relevant if your goal in life is to make as much money as possible

>> No.11530464

>>11528727
Is that Abe?

>> No.11530535

>>11528599
>I'll just measure all life by the metric of material success

>> No.11530560

>>11528599
What does it mean to you to be happy

>> No.11530582

>>11528793
It's a feature of some Russian authors in the Golden Age, including Dostoevsky, Gogol, Goncharov, and Turgenev alongside Tolstoy

>> No.11530585

>>11528547
The internet has wrecked my attention span so much that I took about three tries to just read your three line post

>> No.11530593

>>11528547
Ironically, I'm sure many who wouldn't read War and Peace also wouldn't want to read this. Yes two very different sized books, but two that still need attention until completion.

>> No.11530596

>>11530464
Benicio Del Toro

>> No.11530606

>>11530593
How is that ironic? The passage quoted isn't the book's thesis

>> No.11530671

Digital literacy and the hyper-reading phenomenon is actually really interesting and I wish /lit/ knew something about it

>> No.11530685

>>11530606
Yeah but let me change it. I'm sure many don't even have the attention span for his blog post.

>> No.11530695

>>11530671
The people who think that traditional reading is only institutionally privileged over hyper-reading because of its historical importance might actually be retarded. You can't make cogent arguments in small bites of text, and distracted people are able to retain less.

>> No.11530724

>>11528599
When you hit the peek of materialism you will realise how hollow it is and so am hero

>> No.11531461

>>11528793
Gravity's Rainbow is broken up into a lot of smaller "episodes" within each of the four parts of the book. Some episodes are longer than others, the longest being quite long, but to say that GR has "no chapter breaks except for the 1000 page book being broken up into a few sections" is a bit of an exaggeration. There are in fact 73 sub-sections within the four parts.

>> No.11531478

>>11528547
>a digital media scholar at New York University
What the fuck does that mean?

>> No.11531480

>>11528547
kys normie

>> No.11531484

>>11530724
I bet homeless people are SO happy with their insightful and rich life.

>> No.11531489

>>11528599
Moby dick is a lot more than just whale facts

>> No.11531594

>>11528547
Is The Shallows worth reading?

>> No.11531764

>>11528599
peak bugman

>> No.11531799

>>11531594
If you don’t expect a journal article, yes. It’s a very entertaining and informative historiography of various technologies’ impact on human behaviour and cognition, but apart from some brief overviews of experiments and studies, does not delve into the physiological changes afforded by those technologies.