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Don't mind me, just being wrong about everything

>> No.11521501

>>11521494
epic thread

>> No.11521503
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11521503

You think *THAT'S* being wrong about everything?? Hold my wine theo, I'm gonna show this boomer how to be fucking wrong

>> No.11521505
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11521505

>>11521503
Correct. This is the only good Greek philosopher

>> No.11521507
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>>11521505
shut the fuck up

>> No.11521545
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11521545

>>11521494

Quick reminder that nobody on this board has ever read either Plato or Aristotle and that skim reading wikipedia does not count as reading a philosophy book

>> No.11521570

>>11521545
a bunch of ahistorical crap

>> No.11521574

>>11521545
I feel like this post is right but also only read the wikipedia page

>> No.11521656

>>11521505
Redbased and pilled

>> No.11521829

>>11521545
Who cares? He was a stepping stone to propagate us into the now. He is grossly irrelevant now, done his bidness and nothing more. For this, he is heralded, for this, he is praised. But the fact stands that he is nothing more than a hieroglyphic of history who is insignificant to modern progress. The architecture is sound. We know longer need to circle jerk around the fossils of old.

>> No.11521965

>>11521545
fuck you, i read all of them even socrates
and im black and I read 10 books a week

-KNOWLEDGE

>> No.11521991
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11521991

>everything
>stuff
>things
spooks

>> No.11522015

>>11521965
>i read all of them even socrates
what did he mean by this?

>> No.11522025

>>11521574
that's the point. on /lit/ you either attack a philosopher by deploying dismissive memes or you defend him by writing hyperbolic fanfiction. actually reading philosophy is off the table.

>> No.11522441

>>11521494
I dunno. Seems pretty relevant to modern politics.

https://samzdat.com/2018/07/15/footnotes-1/

>> No.11522445

>>11521505
100% this.

>> No.11522451

>>11521507
Better than Plato but still wrong.

>> No.11522464

>>11521503
>invent "evidence based science"
>wrong
his method was right

>> No.11522499
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11522499

>talks shit about the Forms
>stumped by 2500 year old Geometry; would be turned down by the Academy for being an imbecile

>> No.11522540

>>11522015
It means he is a smart guy pretending to be a dumb nigga pretending to be a smart guy

>> No.11522541

>>11522499
sorry but noneuclidean geometries btfo all of greek mathematics and forms (and kant who btw was also wrong about everything)

>> No.11522552

>>11522540
Or perhaps he's a dumb nigga pretending to be a smart guy by pretending to be a dumb nigga pretending to be a smart guy

>> No.11522556
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>>11522541

>> No.11522573

>>11522552
or just being funny--I mean, why did he single out Sokrates in particular? cause he knew he didn't write

>> No.11522612

>>11521545
If the ancient Greeks were so dumb before Aristotle, how did they develop complex civilisations? Checkmate, materialistfags!

>> No.11522618

>>11522612
Aristotle was hardly a ‘materialist’, after all, he approached ‘forms’ or ‘formal’ understanding in much of the same way as did Plato.

>> No.11522622

>>11522541
There’s hardly any difference. You’re trying to make yourself feel better that you didn’t read The Elements like the rest of us.

>> No.11522630

>>11522618
Yes, but that's not the position that screencap takes. It's basically claiming that Aristotle was le greatest thinker ever because he was the ancient version of Carl Sagan, which I don't think I have to elaborate on why that's stupid as fuck.

>> No.11522788

Phaedrus is the best Plato.

>> No.11522816

>>11521545
>screenshot of redditor btfoing underage 4chan user
Nice post anon.

>> No.11522832 [DELETED] 

>>11522622
>like the rest of us
You overestimate /lit/.

>> No.11522865

>>11521505
T. Nietzsche

>> No.11522870

>>11521829
The Ancients are timeless, bugpseud.

>> No.11522880

>>11521545
Are STEMfags worse than summerfags?

>> No.11522896

>>11522832
I’ve seen quite a few stacks with The Elements

>> No.11522913

>>11522622
lol, elements. just read tarski's axiomatization of euclidean geometry and everything in it follows trivially as it's a complete system.
there's a reason why mathematicians don't study triangles anymore

>> No.11522920

>>11521829
>he is nothing more than a hieroglyphic
prose=shit

>> No.11522922

>>11521507
best post

>> No.11523112

>>11522913
Kewl, but Tarski working by a totally different understanding of mathematics than Euclid. Not just in having "progressed" beyond old Euclid, but He's not even working by the same understanding of number. See Jacob Klein's book on Greek mathematics, David Lachterman's related study, and Burt Hopkins's study if Klein and Husserl.

>> No.11523137

>>11522913
>I haven’t read Elements and I’m scared to

>> No.11523648

>>11521505
It's okay, honey. We all eventually get over our consciousness-fetishism phase. Don't worry.

>> No.11523676

>>11523648
It's the war-fetishism part of Heraclitus that's woke.

>> No.11524169

>>11521829

You don't know how to write, and Aristotle is not irrelevant to modern progress, as we still use classical - Aristotelian - logic to program computers, you absolute midwit.

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>>11521545
>he doesn't know that aristotle was a monk forgery

>> No.11524447

>>11522788
based

>> No.11524542

"Start with the Greeks" actually means "Start with Pythagoras."

>> No.11524651

/fit/ here. Currently reading Republic. Why was Plato wrong?

>> No.11524657

>>11524651
Because per >>11522441 you're Thrasymacus.

>> No.11524681

>>11524651
he was a commie hippie kibbutz jew with his shared child rearing polygamy bullshit

>> No.11524936

>>11524169
Uh, sawry, ur wrong. Modified and expanded upon, as I've said. Not the same thing as ancient thought. We're you born under a rock?

>> No.11524968

>>11521545
Does it count if I read Aristotle and the Greeks in college and then forget literally everything I read?

Scratch that, not everything. In Plato's Republic, some guy likes to fuck boys. I think.

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>>11521545
Gee... I wonder who could be behind this post

>> No.11525324

>>11524169
We use predicate logic to program computers.

>> No.11526130

>>11525324
predicate logic is basically an extension of that logic, just allows you to talk about different objects; first-order and second-order are still classical logic

>> No.11526135

>>11526130
No, predicate logic is an extension of the calculus of propositions. Syllogisms are term logic. Khrysippos and his followers dealt with propositions.

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11526195

>>11521545
>Newfags posting a screencap of a thread that wasn't even lit while pretending to be old fags

>> No.11526223

>>11525324
>>11526130
>>11526135
>tfw you are too stupid to understand any of this

>> No.11526471

>>11521829
We can't forget history and the achievements of those before us. By doing that we don't know whom to compare ourselves to and we'll forget the mistakes they made.

>> No.11526484

>>11523648
>honey
Welp....

>> No.11526506

>>11521494
But that's not Aristotle

>> No.11526519

>>11521545
Holy fuck aristotle was good and all but to think that his philosophy is the best is folly and pretentious. The poster doing the "btfo"ing might as well be the Church in the middle ages with his love of ol' Teles.

>> No.11526536

>>11522630
The poster in that picture writes in such a hysteric manner that I am thinking he might claim Aristotele as a waifu.