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/sffg/ Science Fiction and Fantasy General Anonymous Mon Jul 23 04:17:45 2018 No.11506416 [Reply] [Original]

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>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 04:22:34 2018 No.11506433 SPACE MOBY DICK

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 04:23:04 2018 No.11506435 File: 27 KB, 610x324, litreactor-mobydick.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11506433

Anonymous Mon Jul 23 04:25:15 2018 No.11506438
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Cease and desist the dissemination of Archon fact-fiction immediately or face the eternity of damnation beyond the walls of heaven. The syncretism of the twisted Archon deceptions of science and fiction is the most damnable of Archon indoctrination for Satanic glory. All who proliferate the publication of this most blasphemous of fact-fiction are the ultimate sinners. Repent.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 04:25:36 2018 No.11506439 sanderfag a hack

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 04:26:54 2018 No.11506442 >>11506433 >>11506435 WHITE WHALE HOLY GRAIL

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 04:27:28 2018 No.11506444 >>11506438 Repent THIS unzips holy facade

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 04:27:57 2018 No.11506445 File: 137 KB, 1920x1080, maxresdefault.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11506442 captcha ate my pic

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 04:28:01 2018 No.11506446 >>11506442 SPLIT YOUR LUNGS WITH BLOOD AND CUM

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 04:29:26 2018 No.11506451 >no topic on op way to kill sffg

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 04:30:07 2018 No.11506453 >>11506451 The topic is why don't you kill yourself

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 04:31:04 2018 No.11506459 File: 70 KB, 700x444, leviathan-main.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What is the sci fi version of Moby Dick? Semen squeezing scene included

Anonymous Mon Jul 23 04:31:22 2018 No.11506460
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DISCUSSION TIME

Questions (feel free to ignore them and/or ask your own):
>Did you like the book?
>How did you like our main character?
>Do you feel like the experiments in the beginning of the book, exploiting suicidal subjects, were ethical? Defensible?
>Fuck, marry, kill: Robin, Jizz, Olivia, (Moira)
>How do you feel about the effects teleportation had on society in the book? Believable?
>Who was at the wrong, Outer or Inner Systems? Also, why was Inner Systems such pushovers in the war? How do you think it ended?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 04:31:59 2018 No.11506465 >>11506446 IF YOU WISH TO PREVAIL

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 04:32:20 2018 No.11506467 >>11506453 because there are still 3 people who actually cares about me

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 04:33:01 2018 No.11506470 >>11506459 i think there actually is a moby dick in space novel. kinda like that futurama episode.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 04:33:21 2018 No.11506473 >>11506460 i just started

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 04:33:22 2018 No.11506472 >>11506460 Also, I'm traveling and did not bring my fancy pants images. After this we'll read Roadside Picnic, I'll probably start posting in 4-5 days.

Anonymous Mon Jul 23 04:33:22 2018 No.11506474
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>>11506444
You are the greatest sinner to blaspheme the lord and all holy thoughtforms among the simultaneous dissemination of Archon fact-fiction. Repent. You proliferate the ultimate dilution of fact-truth. Repent. The kingdom of heaven is forever beyond the grasp of all Archon shills. Repent.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 04:34:34 2018 No.11506479 >>11506473 wew It's good

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 04:35:25 2018 No.11506481 >>11506470 Is it just a retreading of Moby Dick but in space? I was thinking more along the lines of something with similar themes of obsession, and revenge

Anonymous Mon Jul 23 04:37:50 2018 No.11506485

>>11506481
>was thinking more along the lines of something with similar themes of obsession, and revenge
im pretty sure thats what it was about too.
it was something about a space leviathan and many wanted to hunt it down because of some they have an organ that allows them to create wormholes or something. the story was about this obsessed admiral and his crew going after it. i think it was published in the mid 90s but i dont remember much else about it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 04:39:52 2018 No.11506492 If Severian has a perfect memory in New Sun, then why does he fuck up in literally the first two pages Pg 1. >"Roche held me, saying, "Wait, I see pikes." Pg 2. >"They had pikes, as Drotte had said."

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 04:47:42 2018 No.11506515 >>11506492 >If Severian has a perfect memory in New Sun He does not. He's lying and you should not trust him unconditionally.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 04:50:42 2018 No.11506528 >>11506515 But Wolfe has stated that his perfect memory is a fact

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 05:12:20 2018 No.11506575 >>11506492 ->also sates in the first few chapters he might be insane hmmmm.....

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 05:23:41 2018 No.11506599 >>11506528 Did he really? You seem perceptive so you'll probably spot more occurrences of Severian's memory being anything but perfect.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 05:24:23 2018 No.11506600 File: 21 KB, 204x300, s-l300[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What did I just read? And should I read the rest?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 05:29:27 2018 No.11506614 >>11506600 If you liked it you can read until God Emperor.

Anonymous Mon Jul 23 05:34:34 2018 No.11506623

>>11506599
Yes, I already found another in the same chapter. Vodalus gives his pistol to the large man that Severian runs into, but just a paragraph later and the female has it instead

The first one I could assume was just an error by the author, but two mistakes within pages of each other seem intentional. Especially when one of them happens right after Severian boasts about his memory

Anonymous Mon Jul 23 05:36:17 2018 No.11506628
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>>11506600
Read until the end of God Emperor, which is the absolute pinnacle of the Dune series.

It's so good that it makes up for how shitty Children of Dune is

Anonymous Mon Jul 23 05:40:50 2018 No.11506643

>>11506628
>>11506614
I think I will continue. I was confused at first why the book took 300 pages to get to the events described on the back cover, but once it got going I loved it.
Though the ending baffled me too. I didn't realise there was an appendix, so I was expecting like 50 more pages. Then it just sort of ends mid-conversation.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 05:44:10 2018 No.11506650 >>11506643 Dune 1 isn't a complete story. The fact that many readers think Dune ends happily, with Paul overthrowing the emperor and saving Arrakis, is sad

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 05:53:40 2018 No.11506674 >>11506650 REEEE SHUT UP IT DOES YOU CAN'T TELL ME OTHERWISE

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 06:36:54 2018 No.11506787 Amateur writer here. What font and font size do you use for your novel? I'm boring so my favorite is times new roman but what's a standard size? I've seen 1 and 12 recommended for TNR.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 06:37:56 2018 No.11506790 >>11506787 >1 Fuck I meant 11 and 12.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 06:53:11 2018 No.11506828 >>11506787 That should be like the last of your concerns

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 06:57:36 2018 No.11506845 >>11506828 What should be my main concern?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 06:59:35 2018 No.11506850 >>11506845 Writing something people want to read. font and formatting can be changed at the drop of a hat.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 07:02:17 2018 No.11506862 >>11506850 I know but it's this little thing that pops into my head a lot. I mean, it doesn't take much to ask a question and it'd be neat to hear someones opinion.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 07:21:31 2018 No.11506930 >>11506862 For me, I prefer a slightly smaller font so it feels like I'm reading something dense and packed with information

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 07:25:00 2018 No.11506943 >>11506787 Caecilia 8

Anonymous Mon Jul 23 07:32:35 2018 No.11506968
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why the fuck is this so badly written. It won a bunch of awards and I've heard it's apparently good scifi but holy shit I can't handle it anymore, I got 300 pages in before the prose got to me.

Is this actually good? Will I miss anything but just reading the wikipedia plot and moving on with my life?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 07:37:13 2018 No.11506978 File: 526 KB, 1589x1200, alloy_map_2_elendel_color-webres.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] SOMEONE TALK ABOUT MEDDLING KIDS WITH ME SOMEONE RECOMMEND ME A BOOK* *WEBNOVELS DO NOT COUNT

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 07:37:39 2018 No.11506984 >>11506968 avoid anything that wins awards in liberal publications

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 07:39:04 2018 No.11506988 >>11506984 >those darn muslim commie liberal terroists are runing our sci-fi! y*kes....

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 07:39:48 2018 No.11506992 >>11506845 font colour

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 07:41:19 2018 No.11506995 >>11506968 Hyperion won a Hugo award, and it sucks dick Awards mean nothing

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 07:41:27 2018 No.11506996 >>11506845 paper grain

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 07:45:26 2018 No.11507012 File: 10 KB, 252x244, 1529530969311.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] GIVE ME THE BEST FIRST CONTACT NOVELS

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 09:41:31 2018 No.11507377 File: 412 KB, 1007x395, notw.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Should I bother reading part 2?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 09:45:35 2018 No.11507387 >>11507377 If you didn't like the first one you'll probably hate the second.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 09:50:24 2018 No.11507412 >>11507377 if you're asking this it means you don't really want to so don't

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 09:58:24 2018 No.11507434 >>11507377 maybe in 2030 when Rothfuss is done milking the series

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 09:59:04 2018 No.11507437 >>11506968 The last page is amazing. The rest is no good, though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 10:25:26 2018 No.11507532 >>11507377 you need to read the last 10 years worth of blogs and speeches and rants about Trump before reading book 2

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 10:58:35 2018 No.11507671 File: 21 KB, 245x407, Ship_of_Fools,_Richard_Paul_Russo_(book_cover).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11506978 I JUST STARTED READING THAT BOOK. IF IT TURNS OUT IT"S SHIT I'LL KICK YOUR ASS ANON. ALSO HAVE A RECOMMENDATION YOU LOUD FUCK.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 10:59:35 2018 No.11507673 >>11507012 RAMA

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 11:08:33 2018 No.11507719 Is The Worm Ouroboros worth reading? I want to get into some old-school fantasy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 11:10:23 2018 No.11507729 >>11507012 the entire history of you solaris

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 11:11:57 2018 No.11507735 >>11507729 meant Story of Your Life ofc

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 11:21:10 2018 No.11507763 >>11507729 >the entire history of you Stop watching Black Mirror and read more.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 11:35:59 2018 No.11507803 >>11506460 >Why was Inner Systems such pushovers? Because Bester wasn't writing milSF.

Anonymous Mon Jul 23 11:38:27 2018 No.11507812

>>11506968
People liked it because muh worldbuilding, and because steampunk was gaining popularity you might say picking up steam at the time. That both the author and (to his credit, to a lesser extent) the work were identifiably leftist of course helped.

Yeah, it's pretty directionless. Still worth a try imo.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 11:47:43 2018 No.11507847 >>11506968 China Mieville sucks dick so he can cut in line to suck bigger dicks.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 11:54:15 2018 No.11507874 So when did the Hugo Awards officially stop mattering? Was it when they gave Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire the best novel award or did they drop-off before then?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 12:03:00 2018 No.11507903 >>11507874 >stop they never started mattering

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 12:09:43 2018 No.11507926 >>11507903 In the 50s-70s they helped promote some pretty good sci-fi that would've otherwise been tossed aside.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 12:16:44 2018 No.11507940 >>11507012 Blindsight Motie in the God's Eye

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 12:35:16 2018 No.11507995 >>11507719 It is.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 12:37:49 2018 No.11508003 >>11506643 Just so you're aware, Dune 2 (dune messiah) is very boring

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 12:43:40 2018 No.11508020 >>11507903 t. edgy autist

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 12:49:15 2018 No.11508039 >>11506418 >>11506420 Both of you fucking idiots messed up the previous threads. THE RECENT ONE GOES AT THE TOP NOT THE BOTTOM.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 12:52:34 2018 No.11508047 >>11506438 Who's the qt?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 13:04:48 2018 No.11508095 >>11507903 >NK Jemisin is the back-to-back Hugo winner no one will ever read.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 13:07:11 2018 No.11508102 >>11506787 Is your story shit? No? You’re full of yourself and should learn to write Yes? Go and edit it until it’s good.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 13:08:16 2018 No.11508108 >>11506492 >tfw too dumb for Wolfe

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 13:22:51 2018 No.11508163 >>11508095 This is true.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 13:40:29 2018 No.11508243 File: 161 KB, 1192x475, lg_3369c3233cd7-acotar.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This series is even better than Throne of Glass.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 13:41:23 2018 No.11508251 >>11508243 MAGNUM

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 13:43:44 2018 No.11508270 >>11508251 DONG

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 13:46:40 2018 No.11508286 >>11508270 LOUD

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 13:47:49 2018 No.11508290 >>11507874 I think people were complaining about it going downhill even in like the mid 90's.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 13:49:42 2018 No.11508301 >>11507874 They still matter. Don't listen to the Puppies whining

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 13:53:29 2018 No.11508316 >>11508301 The what?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 13:53:33 2018 No.11508317 >>11508301 maxkek

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 13:55:03 2018 No.11508326 Thoughts on Larry Correia and the sad puppies campaign, /sffg/?

Anonymous Mon Jul 23 13:56:49 2018 No.11508336
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>>11506460
Oh boy, finally. Got your image senpai.

I'm really glad I read this, even though I didn't want to at first.
It's pretty much great all around. Really fun, fast-paced and exciting. Funny, too; the way the Scientific People talk is just hilarious. Characters are interesting, too (something that's a relief after reading so much Asimov).

I honestly think this should be the default recommendation for someone's first sf book. It's short, fun and filled with many of the kind of weird setpieces and ideas that are part of the reason many people read the genre. It was also apparently quite influential - I didn't know that the twist where unexplained apparition turns out to time travel from the future is from the 1950s.

I also read the actual Count of Monte Cristo (it's a huge doorstopper btw and I'm not even sure if I read the unabridged version) and I think it's funny just how different the main characters of the two books are. Edmon Dantes is an honorable man who believes himself to be a tool of Providence; he punishes the guilty but never hurts the innocent, and in fact ends up helping them often (I remember the scene where he bribes the poor telegraph operator by giving him his dream house, orchard included). Meanwhile Foyle is a bastard who steps on anyone to achieve his goal (which he understands simplistically, at one point literally just deciding to throw a grenade at the ship he hates).
Then again this might be just a question of moral luck. If the only way to exact his revenge was to ruin an innocent person's life, would Dantes have done it?

Questions:
>main character?
Great. I like how completely amoral he is. It's not like philosophically rejects moral principles, it's that he doesn't even think about them.
But I also like how he's not an edgelord. He is generally not sadistic (except for the rape thing, which was a bit wtf to be honest. why did he do it if he already got Robin to do what he wanted via blackmail? it also made me feel like a brainlet because I somehow missed the implied rape the first time I read that paragraph and had to do a double take when I read it again.
>Defensible?
Well I consider myself somewhat of a consequentialist, so sure. Those people were very likely to have killed themselves anyway, so unless you can realistically help them, why not put it to good use?
>
Fuck Olivia, marry Robin, kill Jiz.
>Believable?
It's definitely believable if you don't think about it too much. It's hard for me to come up with what's wrong about it...maybe the existence of teleportation should be able to create some sort of perpetual motion engine, or something?
>Outer or Inner Systems? How do you think it ended?
I don't think there's enough context to decide who's in the wrong. The OS were basically not described at all.
I thought the ending implied that Foyle was going to teach everyone space jaunting? That would probably put an end to the war as they knew it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 13:58:02 2018 No.11508341 >>11508326 Look nigga you are going to give us some info upfront to make us interested. I ain't goggling no Hugo puppies.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 13:58:54 2018 No.11508347 >>11508047 Beelle Goatt

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 14:02:07 2018 No.11508362 >>11506459 Astronautilia, but unless you can read German, Czech or Homeric Greek you're out of luck. I read the German translation and it was godly but even then I still feel something was missing from the original Greek.

Anonymous Mon Jul 23 14:10:48 2018 No.11508400

In any city, in any country, go to any mental institution or halfway house in you can get yourself to. When you reach the front desk, ask to visit someone who calls himself "The Holder of the End". Should a look of child-like fear come over the workers face, you will then be taken to a cell in the building. It will be in a deep hidden section of the building. All you will hear is the sound of someone talking to themselves echo the halls. It is in a language that you will not understand, but your very soul will feel unspeakable fear.

Should the talking stop at any time, STOP and QUICKLY say aloud "I'm just passing through, I wish to talk." If you still hear silence, flee. Leave, do not stop for anything, do not go home, don't stay at an inn, just keep moving, sleep where your body drops. You will know in the morning if you've escaped succesfully.

If the voice in the hall comes back after you utter those words continue on. Upon reaching the cell all you will see is a windowless room with a person in the corner, speaking an unknown language, and cradling something. The person will only respond to one question. "What happens when they all come together?"

The person will then stare into your eyes and answer your question in horrifying detail. Many go mad in that very cell, some disappear soon after the meeting, a few end their lives. But most do the worst thing, and look upon the object in the person's hands. You will want to as well. Be warned that if you do, your death will be one of cruelty and unrelenting horror.

Your death will be in that room, by that person's hands.

That object is 1 of 538. They must never come together.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 14:14:37 2018 No.11508422 >>11508301 Forget the puppies, the Hugos went downhill long before a bunch of hack pulp writers started crying that the Hugos should give awards to their schlock.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 14:14:46 2018 No.11508425 File: 90 KB, 957x621, 1528227349859.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >MC is a farmer's son

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 14:18:15 2018 No.11508443 >>11508400 >That object is 1 of 538. Seems one would have to visit a lot of mental institutions to find one who actually has one.

Anonymous Mon Jul 23 14:22:06 2018 No.11508461

>>11508341
The Sad Puppies is a voting campaign that was started by Larry Correia in 2013. He originally started it to get one of his own novels nominated for the Best Novel Hugo. Since then, it has grown into a campaign to try to get the Hugos to award pure pulp that isn't literary or full of progressive politics.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 14:25:37 2018 No.11508478 >>11508461 Fuck ""progressive" politics. Seems to me people are pissed off that their particular brand of shit is not pushed, not about the quality of nominations.

Anonymous Mon Jul 23 14:32:56 2018 No.11508522

>>11508478
>Seems to me people are pissed off that their particular brand of shit is not pushed, not about the quality of nominations.
Pretty much. The puppies are right that the Hugos are awarding "progressive" garbage for bullshit reasons but the alternative the puppies advocate for isn't any better.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 14:41:14 2018 No.11508559 Honestly the puppies thing seem like controlled opposition to me so that people who have rightly deduced that the Hugo isn't worth anything anymore will be dismissed as "lolpuppies shut up"

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 14:42:22 2018 No.11508562 Why doesn't /sffg/ start their own literary award?

Anonymous Mon Jul 23 14:42:45 2018 No.11508566

>>11508425
whats wrong with being a farmer?
its a good profession and nowadays you wouldn't believe how amazing farmers are. they usually are the first to adopt technological advances and new techiques. heck a friend of mine is a farmer and he has remote controlled tractors that are controlled by an ai on a server he hosts on his own farm.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 14:43:55 2018 No.11508571 >>11508243 Chick stuff? How fun are these books?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 14:44:51 2018 No.11508578 >>11508562 not gonna lie, id love for /sffg/ to start something like the /v/gas but for books every year. the only question is who will be presenting it? and what writers if any would be willing to take part in a skit or a guest appearance?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 14:46:59 2018 No.11508591 >>11508571 Super fun.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 14:59:48 2018 No.11508631 >>11508336 >maybe the existence of teleportation should be able to create some sort of perpetual motion engine Dang, that's right. Imagine your job being to constantly teleporting up a treadmill to keep it running with your weight.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 15:01:28 2018 No.11508638 >>11508571 they arent. its memeposting to con people into reading them. see for yourself just pirate them or something.

Anonymous Mon Jul 23 15:14:36 2018 No.11508692

>>11508461
what actually happened:

Larry Correia's book (a sequel in a "steampunk urban fantasy" series lmao) went up for nomination against a bunch of other sequels (including a zombie story which is even more lmao), a Stross novel about economics, the entire Wheel of Time series, and a space opera about a starship AI stuck in the body of a cyborg drone soldier and out for revenge that was "controversial" for using one set of pronouns.

Naturally when Corriea placed 5th, he claimed that this wasn't because his book was bad but no, it was because there is a conspiracy against conservative authors!

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 15:25:20 2018 No.11508736 >>11508326 Old news. People being mad over "speculative fiction" being speculative. That's fine if you want to read about space captains saving the universe from aliens but those tired stories aren't noteworthy

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 15:32:09 2018 No.11508756 >>11508400 I remember this /x/ pasta from like 9 years ago, wonder how far that went.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 15:32:59 2018 No.11508758 >>11508638 This. Read Necrotech instead.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 15:56:48 2018 No.11508822 Will any science fiction top "If You Were a Dinosaur, My Love"?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 16:10:46 2018 No.11508879 File: 28 KB, 309x475, operation ares.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] You may not like it but this is what peak wolfe looks like

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 16:38:30 2018 No.11508994 > He hit the ground running, making a beeline for a nearby forest. He waved his hand toward a tree up ahead that was large enough for three people to encircle with their arms. The tree cracked open, sending splinters of wood out into the air.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 16:48:20 2018 No.11509031 >>11506968 It's overhyped, primarily because it's leftist propoganda. Mieville tries too hard to be Wolfe, which he never will be. Better than most other modern SFF but it's appeal won't last (it's already pretty obscure).

Anonymous Mon Jul 23 16:52:46 2018 No.11509049

>>11506459
Probably Hyperion.
>Shrike is some unspeakable horror which holds a multitude of different meanings for different people
>Shrike is the central character of the novel even though we barely see him
>Shrike is never defeated and ends up defeating most characters in the novel
>Crew is on a mission to stop Shrike
>Across oceans of various kinds
>Shrike is incredibly elusive and only shows up to wreck the crews shit

Yeah. It's Hyperion.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 16:59:39 2018 No.11509082 >>11508994 >He hit the ground running [MUFFLED SMASHMOUTH NOISES]

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 17:32:05 2018 No.11509282 File: 75 KB, 613x679, adsertyu.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Pretty homophobic KC, but the protagonist is a dyke so I guess it's ok.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 17:49:31 2018 No.11509360 >>11509282 wew, I hope we're not supposed to take that character seriously.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 17:55:40 2018 No.11509389 >>11509049 Hyperion sucks though

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 18:03:01 2018 No.11509421 >>11509389 BLASPHEMER

Anonymous Mon Jul 23 18:03:08 2018 No.11509423
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>>11506460
I really like it. I liked The Demolished Man maybe a little bit more but that one kind of shot itself in the foot by writing a perfect 10/10 ending and then going on for another chapter and over explaining things that anyone who was paying even a little bit attention would've already gotten. Got quite a Christian vibe from the ending of Stars since Gully was kind of a messiah figure that would bring salvation to the world with his whole space jaunting thing.
Using antiquated transportation in a teleportation society as an ostentatious display of wealth I could certainly see happening. Since that's more or less already happening with stuff like vinyl records and vintage cars.
Marry Robin and ignore everyone else to be honest.
And Jesus Christ Neil Gaiman as always worming his way onto every book. He wrote the afterword on my copy. Does that guy even have time to write books after all his prolific blurb bullshit? I wonder where he finds the time.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 18:15:24 2018 No.11509473 >>11509421 I liked the first book well enough, but Fall of Hyperion is the purest form of written dreck there is

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 18:16:44 2018 No.11509481 >>11509423 >And Jesus Christ Neil Gaiman as always worming his way onto every book. He wrote the afterword on my copy lmao

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 18:17:34 2018 No.11509485 The First Law can fuck off. I have no interest in reading it when it feels like the author is going out the way to subvert evvery classic fantasy trope he can.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 18:20:36 2018 No.11509496 >>11509481 He's probably written so many blurbs that I have difficulty believing that he's read all the books he's endorsing and managed to maintain a more or less productive career at the same time.

Anonymous Mon Jul 23 18:24:46 2018 No.11509511

>>11509485
I wonder why so little fantasy goes into a crazy esoteric route, especially with so much material to do exactly that IRL. And if the issue is that it isn’t relatable, then just make the protagonist be confused/baffled/afraid about the stuff but nevertheless roll with it out of necessity.

Anonymous Mon Jul 23 18:26:31 2018 No.11509526

>>11509496
He's old and have a fetish for stories. He have probably spend most of his life reading, I don't doubt that he have read all the books he recommend. And honestly, his recommendations are generally good. I would not have found Wolfe if it were not for Gaiman endorsing him.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 18:48:46 2018 No.11509624 >>11508566 Nothing wrong, it's just overused. Farmer boy with hidden talent gets upped into nobility or some such.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 18:50:21 2018 No.11509634 >>11509624 Will it make you feel better if I do a quick find and replace on 'famer' with 'blacksmith' on my manuscript?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 18:52:26 2018 No.11509645 >>11509634 >a blacksmith living on a farm, caring for his sheep and going into town to order some barrels from the blacksmith

Anonymous Mon Jul 23 18:54:29 2018 No.11509657

>>11509634
Somewhat. I'm just memeing, though. My main problem is the blending of a normal token insert character into the unusual world that makes him seem special. It's usually not done right. I like it better when the character has some unique mindset, vision, and that makes him get involved with the rest of the plot. Seeing and taking opportunities as they present themselves instead of being a mere object of the plot.

Anonymous Mon Jul 23 18:57:45 2018 No.11509670

>>11509624
It's the old fashioned equivilent of isekai.
It used to be that the pesants viewd the nobilty as another world, and wished they could be magically whisked off to join them.
Nowadays we've realized the whole world is crap and start wishing for other ones.
Basically what I'm saying is any novel where the MC is blessed with hidden heritage is boring genre trash.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 19:31:31 2018 No.11509817 >>11508562 Because we only reread Gene Wolfe, Erikson, Watts, and Sarah Maas over and over again.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 19:35:23 2018 No.11509833 >>11508562 Make sure there's categories for best webnovel,litrpg, and female author with the highest gpa.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 19:47:31 2018 No.11509890 >>11508562 It should have all of the usual categories (best novel, best novella, best novellete, best short story, etc) along with: best shitpost, best self-published/web novel, best waifu, and hottest female author.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 19:48:38 2018 No.11509895 >>11509833 lel

Anonymous Mon Jul 23 19:51:41 2018 No.11509912

>>11507377
Fucking hell this pic is too accurate

Also why did Kvothe turn into Coldsteel the Hedgehog in the second books?

>already seen him use magic to creatively kill and maim the bandits
>we need a hundred more pages where he kills a bunch of bandits again except he does it all by himself with a sword and lets them plead for mercy instead of just magicking them all to death like before

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 20:07:36 2018 No.11509970 Where does one start with Octavia E. Butler? I read the synopsis of Parable of the Sower and it didn't interest me. Does she have something more gripping?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 20:18:43 2018 No.11509999 >>11509970 Read Lilith's Brood

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 20:21:55 2018 No.11510005 >>11509912 Apparently it's super immoral/unethical to use magic for violence, but the same rules do not apply to superhuman martial arts fortunately.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 20:24:54 2018 No.11510017 >>11509999 Thank you, this looks more up my alley

Anonymous Mon Jul 23 20:33:13 2018 No.11510054
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>MC was too retarded to live
>couldn't make her any less retarded without changing the plot
>so I made her an even bigger retard who eats food wrappers and bandaids and added a side joke about her mom wrestling while pregnant

Is this how real writing works /sffg/?

>>11509670
Is it? Maybe I'm a bit under-read, but most of the historical hero figures I can think of were legitimate princes/kings or raised by wolves. I suppose that's what happens when the only people who can write down stories they self-insert into are already nobility

The classic examples of farm boy heroes I think of are all more modern examples, people like Luke, Clark or Dorothy.

I mean, I guess Heracles could count, but he didn't become a farm boy until he was an adolescent.

>>11509890
Don't forget Best Incestuous Gay Rape Scene

>>11509817
wait, you're telling me you guys read thing besides Sanderson?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 20:59:53 2018 No.11510168 File: 355 KB, 765x566, JoeAbercrombie.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11509485

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 21:07:25 2018 No.11510191 >>11509999 Not him but thanks. I read Kindred and it was depressing. I was going to try Parable but this looks more interesting.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 21:11:19 2018 No.11510205 >>11510017 >>11510191 You're welcome, have fun

Anonymous Mon Jul 23 21:12:57 2018 No.11510211
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Read the first off a recommendation. It was okay at times but I ended up hating a lot of the characters and the weird disjointed narration where they introduce so many characters that don't matter and die so fast it confuses you.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 21:13:02 2018 No.11510213 >>11509670 >peasant gets kicked in the head by a horse and reincarnated as a duke in another world, uses their knowledge of plowing to revolutionize agriculture and wows everybody by boiling potatoes, which is treated like a 3 star Michelin meal

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 21:14:37 2018 No.11510220 >>11509485 It's a wild ride, though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 21:18:13 2018 No.11510229 >>11507377 Accurate. I love Rothfuss's writing though. I wish it was used on a decent story instead of literally perfect Kvothe who is only held back by dumb plot conveniences.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 21:19:10 2018 No.11510233 File: 47 KB, 200x305, Peter Watts.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Stop having consciousness What's the consensus on him? What are some other books with similar themes to his stuff?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 21:39:20 2018 No.11510279 >>11510211 Read Black Prism for something even worse Have no idea why Brent Weeks gets shilled here. This is the kind of shit I read when I was 13

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 21:41:18 2018 No.11510281 >>11510220 A wild ride? A Special Olympics marathon goes by faster.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 21:42:50 2018 No.11510284 >>11510211 >Titled Shadows Edge >Cover is some Assassins Creed reject

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 21:43:33 2018 No.11510286 >>11510281 It's only three books my dude.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 21:49:47 2018 No.11510301 >>11510284 I was in the mood for some stealthy spy assassin plot but what I got was literally some wacky "my life is so terrible I live in the darkness but long for the light" thing. Probably not going to read the next one.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 22:02:30 2018 No.11510337 what are good fantasy short story anthologies?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 22:04:49 2018 No.11510343 Fuck you amazon! Was going on a schlock marathon and the assholes banned Cipriano. I just got done with his superhuman audiobook when I found out I couldn't listen to the sequel.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 22:05:27 2018 No.11510345 >>11506995 You just have bad taste. >>11507012 Titan by John Varley

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 22:06:00 2018 No.11510347 >>11510337 The Chicks and Chainmail series.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 22:09:56 2018 No.11510363 >>11510343 >his

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 22:10:16 2018 No.11510365 File: 1.13 MB, 1080x1440, JoeAbercrombieRacingThruPlots.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11510286 and yet it felt longer than Wheel of Time...

Anonymous Mon Jul 23 22:11:34 2018 No.11510369

I've written sci-fi my whole life but I'm working on my first fantasy piece. It's a romance about a young knight and a tsundere warrior princess who team up to journey across the land and defeat a great evil. They dislike each other at first but gradually form an effective partnership that evolves into something deeper. It's very cheesy and there's lots of awkward romantic tension

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 22:12:44 2018 No.11510372 >>11510363 It's not?

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 22:12:53 2018 No.11510373 >>11510369 Post a few paragraphs so we can see whether it's shit or not.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 22:14:52 2018 No.11510383 >>11510372 I think its a secret female author

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 22:24:05 2018 No.11510405 >Silkpunk Can we fucking stop with this shit?

Anonymous Mon Jul 23 22:34:03 2018 No.11510426

>>11510383
There are a fair number of male authors who use the "initial, initial, lastname" format too. Especially when they're publishing stuff they consider "beneath" their real name.

>>11510405
Hey if it means we get more translated Wuxia novels that aren't WN trash I'm all for it.

Actually though, the best "Asia" themed SF stuff I've read has been China Mountain Zhang and Aliette de Bodard's Xuya stuff.

Also Ninefox Gambit but that's more of a vague gloss applied to Warhammer 40k.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 23:31:57 2018 No.11510528 >>11510233 Bakker's books (except the detective one) mostly have a similar theme. It's less pronounced in the fantasy though.

>>	Anonymous Mon Jul 23 23:52:30 2018 No.11510587 File: 83 KB, 645x614, afe66e497e7ec52a3e6c841b635e34eb9790342c40fa8d9d1cdcd717f4fa8ec0.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11510345 >Hyperion good

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 00:28:05 2018 No.11510701 File: 74 KB, 643x669, dsefrdtyu.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] ugh

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 00:30:37 2018 No.11510708 >>11510701 What the fuck is this?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 00:44:48 2018 No.11510754 >>11510708 Necrotech. A great book.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 00:51:55 2018 No.11510770 >>11510754 >A great book Triple hell no

Anonymous Tue Jul 24 00:56:45 2018 No.11510777

>>11510754
"Necrotech bleeds with raw & unapologetic badassery. Riko is the cyberpunk heroine I’ve been waiting for, struggling with the truth that the tech we embrace to solve our problems just creates new ones, and no one has a chipset to fix humanity’s bugs. K.C. Alexander dials up the attitude, anguish, and adrenaline in this explosive debut, and I’m looking forward to Riko’s next run."

Triple hell yes dude

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 01:09:39 2018 No.11510812 want to read asimov, what should I go for the robot series or foundation series?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 01:14:10 2018 No.11510824 File: 147 KB, 600x605, R-209358-1293314070.jpeg.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11510812 The only Asimov you'll ever need

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 02:34:51 2018 No.11511051 >>11510701 >not always mutually inclusive Did she mean exclusive?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 05:37:59 2018 No.11511432 >dl.b-ok.org refused to connect fug

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 05:59:30 2018 No.11511486 are there any books about the pure love between a man and ai?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 06:02:28 2018 No.11511493 >>11511486 Speaker for the dead, has a motif about that, but its not the main focus

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 06:53:10 2018 No.11511608 those OP fantasy selected/general and charts need some steep updating actual shit in there

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 08:05:12 2018 No.11511784 >>11511608 We actually revisited and improved the selected fantasy one a couple of months ago.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 08:08:10 2018 No.11511794 >>11509282 >cute girls got more leniency than I did >and less fucking What book and how much gri?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 08:20:44 2018 No.11511833 reading worm right now, will the story move to a bigger scale or just gang vs gang hero vs villain for a long time?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 08:24:05 2018 No.11511842 >>11511784 >we

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 08:52:09 2018 No.11511927 >>11511833 It moves to a bigger scale around the time arc 8 happens.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 09:03:33 2018 No.11511958 >>11511842 >implying implications

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 09:41:53 2018 No.11512138 File: 382 KB, 900x506, kingkiller__denna_by_izzu_shi-db2wfjw.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11507377

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 10:28:17 2018 No.11512276 File: 142 KB, 723x576, 1417198983460.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11512138 so much cucking in those books

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 10:33:05 2018 No.11512299 >People just constantly enter into stupid bets for vast amounts of money to feed it to the protagonist Does this happen a lot in china ?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 10:40:05 2018 No.11512334 >>11512299 Gambling? In China? Preposterous.

Anonymous Tue Jul 24 10:51:18 2018 No.11512408
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>>11506460
I didn't like Gully's sociopathy but it was written well.
I liked the pacing and how shit was always getting done. Gully was a man on a fucking mission.
The war between the Systems seemed more to serve for convenient plot happenings. Most of the backdrop didn't make a whole lot of sense but anything involving Gully's path to vengeance was superb. I wasn't expecting a few of the twists.

Someone recommend me a book.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 11:09:32 2018 No.11512482 Does anyone have a familiarity with the Wold Newton Universe?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 11:35:24 2018 No.11512586 >>11508879 That's not Peace.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 11:52:54 2018 No.11512654 >>11508692 Which one won?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 11:57:04 2018 No.11512667 >>11509485 The ending is literally non-existent.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 11:57:40 2018 No.11512670 File: 528 KB, 720x540, 1502486517282.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11512586 >That's not Peace

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 12:11:15 2018 No.11512731 File: 588 KB, 1469x2318, His_Master's_Voice_English_Mandarin_1990.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11507012 Fiasco Eden His Master's Voice

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 12:19:15 2018 No.11512760 >>11506416 Copy/paste error in https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21332.jpg: Niven & Pournelle → Footfall (instead of Moving Mars)

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 12:23:38 2018 No.11512782 >>11509912 >Also why did Kvothe turn into Coldsteel the Hedgehog in the second books? Because they were written over a decade apart.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 12:25:47 2018 No.11512793 >>11510812 Both. Start with whichever one looks more interesting to you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 12:26:19 2018 No.11512797 >>11509389 You suck

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 12:29:24 2018 No.11512810 >>11510345 Seconded for Varley. The whole Gaea trilogy is great (Titan, Wizard, Demon). >>11510812 Both? Start with his collected robot stories.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 13:48:45 2018 No.11513082 >>11512731 >dat pic Is the book about floating brains that use handguns as bodies?

Anonymous Tue Jul 24 14:07:30 2018 No.11513148

>>11512654
Ancillary Justice won, the runners up were, in order:
Stross
The zombie novel.
The entire Wheel of Time series.
Corriea's book.

It's notable that in the actual voting records there's a decent jump in "No Awards" after second place is awarded, while votes for Wheel of Time only increase marginally. I think people got mad that WoT fans were trying to game the system.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 14:10:47 2018 No.11513159 >>11513148 >Ancillary Justice Worst book I've ever read

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 14:15:20 2018 No.11513177 >>11513148 wheel of shit is shit

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 14:16:57 2018 No.11513182 >>11513148 >Being worse that WoT That takes some effort

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 14:26:50 2018 No.11513217 File: 30 KB, 250x373, 1518192473328.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11513182

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 14:39:40 2018 No.11513254 >>11513217 >The audiobook of the novel is narrated by Wil Wheaton.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 14:54:52 2018 No.11513325 >>11513159 No it's good. You're just a triggered little bitch who can't look beyond politics to judge the actual work.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 14:56:33 2018 No.11513331 >>11513325 t. teacup collector

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 14:57:12 2018 No.11513333 >>11513325 No, she's simply a hack. No one cares about her politics.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 15:00:55 2018 No.11513346 >>11513325 It's objectively bad m8

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 15:02:38 2018 No.11513355 File: 66 KB, 292x450, 9781101974445.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] To whomever was shilling Meddling Kids, you have done me a great disservice anon. What a burning pile of disjointed writing and horrible fan-fiction characters.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 15:06:18 2018 No.11513374 >>11513355 Picked up

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 15:06:33 2018 No.11513376 >>11513355 It's cosmerefag. He shits on super sales and Daniel Black, but is shilling that scooby doo knock off.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 15:07:13 2018 No.11513378 >>11513325 I've never read it, what about it's politics is bad?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 15:09:53 2018 No.11513387 File: 10 KB, 226x300, r-scott-bakker-45f6e2ce-764d-4b7b-bd0b-a08ebfb410f-resize-750.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Hey guys remember me? You used to like my books

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 15:11:25 2018 No.11513395 >>11513374 Good luck and Godspeed anon! >>11513376 You know, I would have read a Scooby Doo knock-off. I would have read a Stephen King knock-off. But I will not read this crap.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 15:12:23 2018 No.11513400 >>11513387 too much gay in the last book. I wanted more mom son incest. Eme should have been raped too. not just the daughter

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 15:12:46 2018 No.11513402 >>11513387 I dnno I liked a couple of the books but then it stopped being fun

Anonymous Tue Jul 24 15:19:35 2018 No.11513442

>>11513378
The evil empire is monogender and uses female pronouns. The only time this comes up is when the characters have to deal with foreigners.

This triggered a bunch of people about how the book was "political" despite being no different than everybody calling each other "citizen" or whatever.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 15:23:54 2018 No.11513461 File: 2.94 MB, 572x864, 1532344229322.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11513442 >The evil empire is monogender and uses female pronouns. Where does alien bitches at least fuckable?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 15:33:55 2018 No.11513507 Reminder that you shitting on these authors doesn't change the fact that while you struggle to write a 2k word short story they're rolling in dough.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 15:35:09 2018 No.11513517 I struggle to READ a 2k word short story lol

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 15:37:10 2018 No.11513529 >>11513507 Was anon being a meanie to your favorite author?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 15:39:48 2018 No.11513544 >>11513529 Did anon strike a nerve?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 15:51:08 2018 No.11513583 File: 185 KB, 960x960, 1522792542688.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The western literary market is severely lacking in edgy magical girl isekai, and I'll fill that niche.

Anonymous Tue Jul 24 15:56:50 2018 No.11513609

>>11513544
Eh I guess someone's pet author was brought up in a negative context. There is really no need to defend absolute strangers who are "rolling in dough". It's unbecoming.

>>11513583
But the western literary market is not lacking in edgy girl power fantasy.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 16:14:28 2018 No.11513683 >>11513507 >>11513544 >haha the authors you hate are successful! No one cares, bootlicker. I'm sure there are plenty of artists you hate that are infinitely more successful than you.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 17:27:40 2018 No.11514040 >>11513082 No, it's about the limits of the scientific method into understanding the universe

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 18:32:06 2018 No.11514377 who's better Bradbury or Simak?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 19:23:54 2018 No.11514604 >>11513683 >You hate Imagine being so pathetic that you actually hate a person for the words they write on a page. Sorry, not everyone's a ball of aborted dreams like you anon.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 19:52:18 2018 No.11514732 File: 274 KB, 800x1165, 9780439253239_mres.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >100+ page YA fantasy book has more plot and characterization than GRI 800+ page tomes really makes you think

Anonymous Tue Jul 24 19:58:36 2018 No.11514757
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>>11506416
Can I get just a good fantasy series with a set of likeable characters who grow over the course of multiple books that's decently written

It seems so hard to find one

Anonymous Tue Jul 24 20:09:04 2018 No.11514807

>>11514732
>MC journeys to jewel location
>encounters one situation along the way
>gets the jewel from the monster
>thats the book, buy the next one too see what happens next!

Those book have no characterization at all anon. Theres some god tier YA fantasy like Bartimeus and Sabriel but this is really bottom of the barrel stuff. I also just realized theyre written by a womeme, so I guess I realize why they were so uninspired now.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 20:12:36 2018 No.11514816 >>11514807 Anon shut up I need to shitpost and get dumbasses to read it so I can laugh at them

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 20:21:12 2018 No.11514852 >>11514757 looking for this too for audible book.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 21:19:11 2018 No.11515020 >>11514757 It's not fantasy but try out the Vorkosigan series.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 21:21:06 2018 No.11515026 Does anyone have any monster boyfriend/girlfriend fantasy recs?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 21:21:27 2018 No.11515031 File: 262 KB, 795x1200, twok_map-1_alethkar-webres.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What should I read when I finish High-Rise? >Permutation City >The Divine Invasion >Ship of Fools >>11514757 Dragonlance

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 21:26:14 2018 No.11515052 >>11514732 WoWo THAnks FOr ThE REcOMendaTion WilL, REad?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 21:28:43 2018 No.11515059 >>11514732 100% of kids only read these for the covers

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 21:40:06 2018 No.11515097 >>11508243 love her dress on the right

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 21:56:55 2018 No.11515150 File: 14 KB, 220x332, spte.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Is this worth getting/reading, or only if youre a die-hard Stephenson fan?

Anonymous Tue Jul 24 22:11:22 2018 No.11515193

>>11515150
I liked Snowcrash and Cryptonomicon and that book actually made me hate him. The whole opening about Chinese gold farmers/hackers and Russian mobsters connected via a overly-realistic MMO only Peter Molyneux could conceptualize was great, and then he staples a bunch of moronic shit onto it out of nowhere about terrorism.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 22:23:54 2018 No.11515238 is there a reliable, non-clickbait/SEO/product placement site that follows new sci-fi/fantasy/horror releases and trends and upcoming stuff?

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 22:26:25 2018 No.11515246 Is there any writer that tries to grasp contemporary society and media other than Chiang? Lifecycle of Software Objects is still the best sci-fi story I've read. Basically I'd be looking for a techno triller that is not too far fetched.

Anonymous Tue Jul 24 22:28:22 2018 No.11515256

>>11513355
I just started reading Meddling Kids because of the shilling. I'd give it 3/5 stars so far. I like some of what it's doing with the characters but this book should be more fun. I'm not a fan of horror so there's that but this is a mash up and I feel like the tonal shifts between wacky high jinks and eldritch horror are too broad. I don't mind the narrative style with neologisms and pov shifts &c. I'm going to keep reading it for now because I'm only at 15% but I drop a lot of books

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>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 22:32:26 2018 No.11515266 File: 56 KB, 537x540, Cosmere.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11515256 I think the first ~20-25% was rather dull (slow?) but it definitely picks up.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 22:42:04 2018 No.11515289 >>11515260 wat

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 22:44:04 2018 No.11515298 >>11513355 >he fell for it

Anonymous Tue Jul 24 22:45:06 2018 No.11515300

>>11515246
You might try the blogs for the various SFF periodicals.

I like Strange Horizons but they trend towards more literary stuff than these threads generally discuss.

Tor does monthly lists of everything coming out this month but they're mostly limited to the real publishers.

>>11515256

Twenty Days of Turin was written in the 70s and only recently translated to English but reads almost exactly like a commentary on modern social media.

Anonymous Tue Jul 24 22:50:33 2018 No.11515316

>>11509485
You know, I didn't mind Abercrombie subverting every generic fantasy trope, but it pissed me that he kept announcing it. That thing he kept doing in the narration and characters' internal monologues, where he'd go "If this was one of the storybooks, X, Y, and Z would happen...but this was not a storybook."

He does it at least once in every book of the first trilogy, and it's infuriating. By pointing out that he's subverting a trope, he's writing down to the audience.

Anonymous Tue Jul 24 23:11:39 2018 No.11515381

>>11513376
I'm gonna shit on super sales too, if that guy wasn't so focused on tying shit up in some meta universe or some shit maybe the individual books would have a plot, the first one doesn't even have a villain, they're literally just attacked by faceless dudes over and over. Have zero interest to keep going after the first.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 23:27:06 2018 No.11515449 >>11515150 I liked it. Different from his other books. Much more thriller.

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 23:29:02 2018 No.11515461 >b-ok downloads still down

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 23:36:26 2018 No.11515495 >>11515461 https://b-ok.xyz/

>>	Anonymous Tue Jul 24 23:58:00 2018 No.11515574 >>11515495 That's where I was though? I still had the tabs open from earlier and now they work, kek

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 00:07:57 2018 No.11515607 Summons shardblade windruns behind you "Heh, tell the Stormfather I sent you."

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 00:52:42 2018 No.11515769 >>11515381 I liked how no one really cared how they were enslaved, that they were actively practicing cannibalism, and that death means nothing when the protagonist can resurrect people.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 01:46:49 2018 No.11515898 >Speculative fiction >Magical realism This has to stop.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 02:52:51 2018 No.11516036 File: 28 KB, 318x445, 23393643.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Anybody read Dream Houses? I felt like the flashback parts were too meandering

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 03:01:41 2018 No.11516051 File: 173 KB, 314x475, 19161852.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] if i ignore who wrote this, is this book good

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 03:05:43 2018 No.11516057 >>11516036 That's not how greentext works newfag.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 03:11:46 2018 No.11516071 File: 90 KB, 640x483, 1532293474754.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11516057 I don't give a fuck how you want me to greentext

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 03:13:30 2018 No.11516076 >>11516036 >>11516071 lurk more faggot

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 03:27:36 2018 No.11516114 >>11516051 What's wrong with the author?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 03:28:35 2018 No.11516116 >>11516114 search it and you'll understand

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 03:40:40 2018 No.11516131 >>11516116 She's a black woman and this is 4chan which means we have to behave like a pack of retards? Is that the reason, or do I have to read her entire wikipedia page to get what you're driving at?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 03:46:11 2018 No.11516142 11516131 so you're the newfag

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 04:36:24 2018 No.11516228 >>11515898 Magical realism doesn't really have much in common with SFF. Speculative fiction is a meme term.

Anonymous Wed Jul 25 04:37:16 2018 No.11516229

Under the nourishment of the earth flame and spiritual lake, his physical body had grown by leaps and bounds. At this moment, every single cell of his felt strong and flexible, as though they had just gone through a metamorphosis.

Raising his arm, he sent a fist forward.

Hong long!

The might of his punch shot through the tree as though a fist-sized bullet, rattling the entire tree with its force.

"My physical body has grown this strong?"

Zhang Xuan's eyes lit up.

I'm sorry for doubting you tree anon.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 04:37:27 2018 No.11516230 >>11516131 >She's a black woman and this is 4chan which means we have to behave like a pack of retards Exactly, you idiot. But I'm glad that you spelled it out for us.

Anonymous Wed Jul 25 04:44:22 2018 No.11516242

>>11506460
>Did you like the book?
Yes, it was really good.
>How did you like our main character?
He was great. Somehow managed to be a totally amoral rapist with a flaming tiger tattoo on his face without coming of as to edgy.
>Do you feel like the experiments in the beginning of the book, exploiting suicidal subjects, were ethical? Defensible?

>Fuck, marry, kill: Robin, Jizz, Olivia, (Moira)
Fuck Jizz (and Moira), marry Robin and kill Olivia
>How do you feel about the effects teleportation had on society in the book? Believable?
Believable enough. At first I thought it was weird that it did not trigger an obesity epidemic but then I realized that there are limits on teleporting short distances indoors also.
>Who was at the wrong, Outer or Inner Systems? Also, why was Inner Systems such pushovers in the war? How do you think it ended?
At first it felt like the IS was in the wrong but then OS started bombing with extreme prejudice. Didn't matter much for the book desu. Considering time traveling and space jaunting is suddenly possible I don't feel like the war matter much anymore. Also, PyrE felt like an absolute meme.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 05:57:15 2018 No.11516367 >>11516131 you dont belong here, go back to your shitty site

Anonymous Wed Jul 25 08:13:08 2018 No.11516696
File: 35 KB, 720x583, GFM-4-Act-structure[1].png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

For any aspiring epic fantasy writer.
>Abandon the idea of the trilogy.
It locks you into the three-act structure and on-the-nose heroes' journey; into the uncovering/discovery>training and setback>path of victory.
the three-act structure sucks

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 08:33:59 2018 No.11516741 >start reading a webnovel >it gets really good and you cant stop reading it >suddenly it stops and has been abandoned for multiple years whats her name /sffg/? who do you yearn for?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 08:43:13 2018 No.11516763 >>11516696 A tetralogy is superior to a trilogy but what's even better is a massive tome containing your whole story without splitting it up. Very few stories can be told in a single book, splitting them up into several is a publisher meme.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 09:11:48 2018 No.11516857 >>11515031 Why does fantasy never have countries called (blank)land inhabited by the (blank)ish people in the same way we have Scotland, Ireland England and so forth?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 09:59:46 2018 No.11517029 >>11510213 >boiling potatoes That's genius! Why did I never think of that?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 10:20:30 2018 No.11517102 >>11516763 Duologies are underrated. Allows for, or rather demands by definition, an epic cliffhanger/enigma.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 10:22:26 2018 No.11517111 >>11516051 I didn't like it. Transparent pandering was almost humorously ham-handed. Nauseatingly detailed gay sex.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 10:25:23 2018 No.11517124 >>11516131 Reddit the post

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 10:31:57 2018 No.11517160 File: 62 KB, 960x617, 1448385562753[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >sex coming up >fade to black >morning >not even exposition of the past night

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 10:37:00 2018 No.11517181 >>11517160 >he wants whole chapters dedicated to sex Maybe romantic novels are more up your alley ma'am

thiskillsthedarkelf Wed Jul 25 10:38:05 2018 No.11517184

>>11516741
Holy shit anon that list is too long but the wait on spirit vessel and its current five week break is killing me.

>yfw translator is going to vietnam to get a waifu
>will have even less time for translating once he's married or might get dumped and kill himself

>>11516696
Nothing wrong with a good old fashioned heroes journey anon, just wish people would stop trying to subvert it with shit writing.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 10:38:23 2018 No.11517188 >>11517181 rape

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 10:55:41 2018 No.11517233 File: 45 KB, 201x216, 1527804986886.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Does Worm have GRI?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 10:57:28 2018 No.11517238 >>11515381 This. Pretty mediocre book. Honestly, doesn't even deserve mentioning.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 11:03:16 2018 No.11517259 File: 497 KB, 910x1373, -DSONu3s5X0[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Russian version of Central Station. Looks like shit.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 11:08:34 2018 No.11517286 File: 1.39 MB, 3262x1748, 1221.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Takeshi Kovacs trilogy.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 11:20:29 2018 No.11517342 >>11516741 the defective hermit. that shit was great. its a shame the author just disappeared.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 11:41:22 2018 No.11517423 >>11510233 I read firefall, which of his other series is the best?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 11:43:31 2018 No.11517432 >>11516696 >Following formulas Three books doesn't necessarily >imply a three act structure

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 11:47:47 2018 No.11517455 >>11506460 >>11508336 I picked this up after reading Count of Monte Cristo with the reading group last year. Didn't even realising there was a relation between them. It's a good pairing, one right after the other.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 11:53:48 2018 No.11517480 >>11517455 I've been thinking about reading The Count of Monte Cristo for a while but it's just so fucking long.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 12:09:45 2018 No.11517532 >>11509282 >talking that way to a cop The next paragraph is the cop shooting them dead, right?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 12:11:46 2018 No.11517538 >>11506446 DAMMIT I WAS EATING A BANANA

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 12:13:27 2018 No.11517548 >>11517233 kind of. Not full on but theres one character that wants to rape her sister.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 12:13:54 2018 No.11517552 >>11517532 Nah anon, it's not dystopian fiction.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 12:14:26 2018 No.11517554 >>11517548 Does she get away with it?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 12:14:46 2018 No.11517557 >>11517552 Utopian, anon. At least get the zipcode right.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 12:15:23 2018 No.11517558 >>11517160 Truly the goat of sex scenes.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 12:23:04 2018 No.11517588 File: 91 KB, 368x400, 1505935288897.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11517160 Sounds like the narrator doesn't want to talk about it. Probably couldn't get his dick up.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 12:24:31 2018 No.11517598 >>11517554 no although she violates her in a way thats worse

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 12:27:08 2018 No.11517611 >>11517480 It's a tome for sure but it's not difficult, and the revenge plot makes it easy to stay invested. Just push past the travel writing sections, they tested my patience.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 13:23:03 2018 No.11517862 >>11517432 no but they force the writer to fill out three books

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 14:10:13 2018 No.11518044 what are you fags reading?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 14:14:13 2018 No.11518055 >>11518044 zod wallop

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 14:23:40 2018 No.11518107 >>11518044 Solaris for the first time.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 14:26:44 2018 No.11518126 >>11518044 Silmarillion, since my hardcover Ted Nasmith illustrated edition arrived yesterday.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 14:27:13 2018 No.11518130 >>11518044 desolate era, extremely chinky chinkshit

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 14:32:19 2018 No.11518150 File: 36 KB, 482x427, 1465244776095.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11518044 Wheel of Time still

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 14:37:54 2018 No.11518173 >>11518130 >reading chink xianxia webnovels why?

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 14:40:02 2018 No.11518180 >>11518044 His Master's Voice by Stanislaw Lem

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 14:40:49 2018 No.11518182 >>11518173 I go through western novels too fast. Chinkshit is free and long

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 14:41:51 2018 No.11518185 NEW thread >>11518151 >>11518151 >>11518151

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 14:46:40 2018 No.11518209 >>11518044 Some short story collection of British SF from the 60s and 70s. Not really much worth taking note of but I did like one or two of the stories.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 14:56:54 2018 No.11518255 New Thread. >>11518249 >>11518249 >>11518249 Previous Threads and Subject in proper place.

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 15:00:27 2018 No.11518275 File: 179 KB, 404x521, 1439691239312.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11518255 >one thread already has 20 replies >dude ill make a new one for some formatting shit no one cares about

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 15:11:36 2018 No.11518320 >>11518275 >search catalog >can't find thread >tomorrow 3 people make new threads because sffg can't be found >shit no one cares about newfags need to be purged don't make threads if you don't know how to

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 18:56:21 2018 No.11519352 >>11516036 >she

>>	Anonymous Wed Jul 25 19:00:10 2018 No.11519368 File: 40 KB, 152x254, 1512604453279.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11517188

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