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What does /lit/ think of this book?

>> No.11502478

>>11502462
>Ray Kurzweil grew up in the New York City borough of Queens. He attended NYC Public Education Kingsbury Elementary School PS188. He was born to secular Jewish parents
>was born to secular Jewish parents
>Jewish parents
You're on a redpill board, Rabbi

>> No.11502490

>Kurzweil
>Bostrom
What happened to this board? Yudkowsky next you fucking pseuds?

>> No.11502506

>>11502490
I didn’t say I read it. Just want to know people’s thoughts.

>> No.11502519

kurzweil is legitimately bad
bostrom is the best normie-core superintel writer. pseuds will shit on him because they're autistic and it makes them feel good

>> No.11502525

>>11502478
This is a good bit.

>> No.11503178

Why are all transhumanists and singularity worshipers kikes and trannies?

>> No.11503286

>>11502490
>imb4 people here haven't read THE SEQUENCES
that shitfest of a book had some pretty good bits
just beceause big yud is a lefty AI expert larping kike doesn't mean it's not worth taking a look

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>>11502462
The singularity is eternally 30 years away. Far away enough that people won't bother to call the author out when it doesn't happen, but not too distant to lack a sense of immediacy.

>> No.11503980

>>11502490
Unironic question:
What is a good book on the subject matter for a person who doesn't comprehend math? Because the two major criticisms about these book I always hear, are:
>It's too speculative
>There's no math

Much of the western canon does not contain math, so this seems like a terrible argument to me.

>> No.11503988

>>11503333
Well, you've just summarized the introduction chapter of Bostrom's Paths, Dangers, Strategies.

>> No.11504658

>>11502462
>the tragedy of old nerds who can't admit they're afraid of dying
tick tock ray

>> No.11504695

>>11502462
will he release another book in a few years "No, seriously, the singularity is near" and another one a few years later, "any day now, i swear"?

>> No.11504697

>>11503980
>What is a good book on the subject matter for a person who doesn't comprehend math? Because the two major criticisms about these book I always hear, are:

Read Vernor Vinge's original essay on the Singularity. shouldn't be too hard to find.

>> No.11505652

>>11502478
Based and redpilled.

>> No.11506207

Stross has a pretty good explanation on why the singularity is most likely bullshit.

His recent talk at the Chaos Computer Club ("Dude You Broke The Future") mentions that geeks have a tendency to reinvent shit that already exists, and the Singularity is largely reinventing Christianity.

>> No.11506213

>>11506207
why christianity and not some generic religion? is there a holy trinity and martyred christ figure in the singularity?

>> No.11506222

>>11506207
This. Much of what happens in tech is just reinterpretation or replacement of old spiritual concepts with materialist substitutes.

God - General AI
Sacred Text - The Internet

And so on...

>> No.11506230

>>11502478
Based and redpilled *tips Trump hat*

>> No.11506239

>Christians trying to superimpose their archaic belief system onto the future

the general population of the west is slowly becoming less Christian, deal with it

>> No.11506256

>>11502490
what don't you like about Bostrom, anon?

>> No.11506269

>>11506213
i assume because of eschatology. the elect (ie tech-savvy nerds) getting mind-uploaded into the kingdom of god.

>> No.11506290

>>11506239
No it isn't. If anything, Christian values remain extremely strong. Like a lot of other things, they have just been reinvented through modernity.

People mistake the trappings and aesthetics and rituals of Christian belief for Christianity. Arguably, a form of secular state has carried on Christianity's most compelling functions and messages and has progressively honed and adapted them to the times.

Many secular liberals in the US and other Western countries would be alarmed if they actually honestly read the bible. They would be confronted by the biblical names, phrases, stories, poems, and wisdom that they blindly dismissed, but which are still recognisable in modern culture... it would be like looking at their reflection in a river- something so similar to them, wavering, rippling, passing away in the flow of time.

>> No.11506522

>>11506290
Based and redpilled.

>> No.11508070

>>11506290
>separation of church and state

is that one in the bible?

>> No.11508082

>>11502490
This lol.

Back to less wrong you fucking faggoty pseuds.

>> No.11508945

>>11502462
Plenty of better technology books. I'll look for an older thread on the subject and maybe link it later if I can find it.

>> No.11508950

>>11506290
a little too poetic for me, but definitely a great post!

>> No.11508964
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11508964

>>11502490
Bostrom is great ya dingus, he's the only person who writes about the singularity as something other than a religion for atheists

>> No.11508980

It's full of shit and wrong, there is no near future singularity and if you believe it you are just another retard.

>> No.11508993
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>technolgoy will keep increasing at the current rate forever

>> No.11509011

>>11502462
Kurzweil is unironically a hack, the flying cars salesman of our era. He predicts a singularity in the next 30-40 years.

We can't even get robotic arms that move in a manner similar to human function and he honestly thinks we'll be able to upload human consciousness in 30-odd years? Fuck off.

Also, quantum computing is much further off than we think it is. Like, we're still discovering the proper hardware for it still, from cooling lasers to diamonds. And even if we figure out what hardware actually works, it'll be decades before it hits the consumer market.

t. someone whose sibling does quantum research

>> No.11509027

>>11502462
Bad.
Very cultish in its views. Essentially an atheistic religion. Many of his statements are incredibly vague, such as how "intelligence will radiate from earth until it saturates the universe" are nonsensical, and his insistence that humans must be the only intelligent life in the universe is absurd. Also, the fact that he thinks exponential trends can be extrapolated forever show just how retarded he is.

>> No.11509771

>>11509027
This.

>> No.11510441

New technology general when?

>> No.11511136

>>11510441
This. Maybe a reading group also or something.

>> No.11511151

>>11502462
I tried to read it in high school and all I took away from it (after quitting 2/3rds of the way through) was "So what?"

Too much information for a relatively simple concept.

>> No.11511155

>>11503178
They're a people without a myth. They only have materialism to aspire to and are scared of death because there is nothing beyond for them.

>> No.11512845

>>11511151
This. You can see through him with ease.

>> No.11513386

I prefer Anti-Tech Revolution

>> No.11514331

>>11513386
Based and redpilled.

>> No.11514970

>>11503178
I don't know about the jews, but transgenders want it because they think the ASI will be able to make them a real girl/boy.

>> No.11516042

>>11514970
AI + Contrapoints = Nightmare fuel

>> No.11517539

Any other good recommendations in addition to Bostrom?

>> No.11517566

>>11508964
green is what will happen
red is if we're lucky

>> No.11518245

>>11506222
All new creations are just reinterpretations of older things.

>> No.11519273

>>11508964
Source? Care to explain?

>> No.11520128

>>11517566
At least it won't get worse.

>> No.11520826

It's worth a group read at the very least.