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Jorge Luis Borges is the greatest writer to come out of Latin America. Period.

>> No.11494684

literally who? if you are to make such a grandiose , ridiculous statement, at least provide a "why". fucking pseudo...

>> No.11494688

>Latin America

You mean the Americas, right?

>> No.11494696


fucking pleb

I mean brown man tomato picker land

>> No.11494710

Name 1 (one) writer from the US who even comes close to him. I dare you.

>> No.11494714

probably Tylo B. Chillin

>> No.11494726

Jorge was 1/2 English which makes him better than all of the inferior mudblood mestizos, castizos, and mulattos.

However, he is incomparably inferior to the full blooded anglo man, of which the average enthnographic American white man is such

>> No.11494731

Nah, that would be me. ( I’m Australian)

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I just wanted a name, not a 56% breakdown of your insecurities

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>> No.11494770

Why does the nazi look like a jew?

Oy vey, anti-semitism

>> No.11494779

>pretending to be a /pol/tard

>> No.11494786
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looks pretty NatSoc to me

>> No.11494795

>>keeps the "the bell curve" on his nightstand, thinks he is worthy of being /lit/

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Borges had brains, but Gabo had heart

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*blocks your path*

Nothing personal, amigo.

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*destroys the novel*

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That's a widely held opinion only because no one outside Brazil know of Machado de Assis.

>> No.11495137

looks like a nig

>> No.11496439

this. Portuguese language is exotic for many people especially anglos, who get annoyed that it's distinct from spanish.

half nig

>> No.11496487

>no pablo neruda

>> No.11496497

Fuentes had both...


>> No.11496534

>guys baited
>posts lmgtfy about borges
Yeah, no surprise (you) think he’s great

>> No.11496573

Borges is the literary equivalent of weird stories you read online.
What little value there is to be found, and there is little to be found, is hidden behind what is essentially mediocre writing at best.
I am not referring to prose. His stories set up scenarios and twist them in a way that seems smart, and actualy is, but lacks all heart. Any message or idea that is explored, though they are usually just presented, comes across as borges trying to show you something. No story is interesting, it’s just some idea presented through a story that is made to present that idea in a strange way.
This wouldn’t be bad if it weren’t so obvious, or if the stories themselves were interesting.
I would rather see a magic show, where the magician tells me the world is not as it seems and then pulls a rabbit out of his hat, than have borges tell me the world is not as it seems by presenting the world how it isn’t, and twisting this false world so some truth in this misrepreststion is revealed.
It might be interesting the first time, but afterwards it’s just tiresome.

>> No.11496593

federico garcia lorca

>> No.11497217

>latin america

>> No.11497243


>> No.11497244

>Latin America
who cares

>> No.11497313


>> No.11497475
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Neruda is a strong contender imo.
Also eager to see what Luiselli will produce in the coming years.

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The Gospel According to Mark is pretty damn good.

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>he is incomparably inferior to the full blooded -1% anglo man!!!

Seriously why you mutts keep posting this shit?
The whole board is laughing at you creaturas

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>forgetting about the whole continent's Joyce

>> No.11497625

Is she actually good ? Story of my Teeth was pretty average stuff.

>> No.11497633

Go to bed, Mosley

>> No.11497746

I stopped reading Cien Años de Soledad after Aureliano's death. Is it even worth finishing?

>> No.11497766

Yes and he sucks.

>> No.11497770

For a person who stops in the middle of this one book, it's not worth for someone this impassive even to start it.

>> No.11497813

Definitely. Keep going.

>> No.11497880

Yeah, thats not her best work I think, her other two novels were more to my liking. Tell me how it ends is something different, it is more a political essay, so not really a novel.

>> No.11497895

Yes, it's magical

>> No.11497961

Cool, i’ll look into it. She’s obviously a talented prose writer anyway.

>> No.11497984

it get's way better (it kind of starts dragging after the banana massacre affair gets resolved but by the end it ramps up like a motherfucker)

>> No.11497991


Not joking, One Hundred Years of Solitude is probably one of the greatest books of all time, probably the greatest one coming from all of the americas (US included).

I don’t know how a guy like Gabo (who doesn’t seem that talented) was able to do it, but the fact is that he achieved something incredible with that one book. It towers above the rest of his body of work.

It contains the genesis and the apocalypse, all of the major human dilemas, a short history of civilization, new myths (like some sort of pantheon of its own), several different characters, and all of that presented with great concision.

It’s a miraculous work. It’s one of those books that has a demonic soul in it, an aura that you can’t quite explain.

No wonder it exploded in a ciclone of praise, awe, admiration and loving devotion around the world. I can’t tell how Gabo did it: he dosent seem capable, but thank the gods and the muses he did.

It’s even better than my beloved Moby Dick, even better than Lolita.

>> No.11498032

Lol, tfw your views on race were satarised and laughed at in the 1800s.

>> No.11498033

and you didn't even read into Colombian history in the late XIX and early XX century, which is sort of the root of the whole thing.
But yes, it's GOAT

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>gets touted as someone who has read thousands of books
>turns out he was just skimming through them looking for the exciting parts.

what a hack

>> No.11498057

his poetry is pretty shit, senpai

>> No.11498063

I can't disagree; he's never really given me the contrary impression.

>> No.11498069

I see this said a lot on here. Where's the proof?

>> No.11498083

What's so great about him?

>> No.11498089



Come to think of it, I value Lispector over Borges as well.

>> No.11498578

Also happens to be better than your favourite author.

>> No.11498703

Where to go after Passion according to GH ?

>> No.11498736

I have no problem with that statement, however, I have a problem with the fact that most people, at least in this board, who says such things have literally only read borges out of latin american writers.

>> No.11498830

Dive into her stories. They are fantastic. If you're itching for a novel, I suggest Near to the Wild Heart.

>> No.11498916

Cool, thanks for the rec. Have you read Agua Viva, by chance ?

>> No.11498931

>Neruda is a strong contender imo.
Neruda doesn't even come close to being the best Chilean author.

>> No.11498937

Anglo saxons are good economists but in terms of literature they are dwarfs

>> No.11498958

hi anon, recommend me some latin american lit, preferably stuff that comes before the magical realism meme, or just whatever you like :~)

>> No.11498960

I don’t have to, Borges did it himself. He acknowledged Melville, Poe, and Faulkner as more importanr than anyone in latin america

>> No.11499055

>Latin American calls anyone a mutt
If you want to laugh, just contemplate your iq average

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>> No.11499073

Have not read that, but really want to. Most of her oeuvre that' I've read though is great, especially into her later years.

>> No.11499222

Where to start with him? I'm half Brazilian and wanted to (further) advance my Portuguese.

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Shut up, Moz was aesthetic af

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You just cost me 50 CAD $, btw ;)

>> No.11499350

Is this pasta? I just got done reading it- it's a solid 6/10 at best.

Anyone who disagrees with me is a pseudo-intellectual signalling faggot.

>> No.11499386

You'll enjoy, anon. She's great.

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>Is this pasta?

No. But this one is:

My impression when I read it was that I was witnessing humanity first emerging from primordial mud, from the creamy swamps of stone age, as if the foundation of the city of Macondo was the first settlement of civilization and it’s inhabitants were all Adams and Eves, all of them still humid with the sweat of the dew of paradise. Is like the children of Eden modeling and pilling up the first bricks of Ur, or Uruk, of Nineveh or Babylon (all the houses of red mud and of bamboo/taquara).

Humanity was at the same time more innocent and stronger, more ignorant and hungrier. The friendship and the butchery, the marriage and drinking rituals, the sexual hunger and the love caresses, the trades and crafts and arts and festivals: all of it seemed, in my eyes, as discovered for the first time by the inhabitants of the world of this book. When they made love, they did it with more power and pleasure than our current race; when they killed, they did it with more foaming savagery. Their veins still had primeval magma snaking and tingling inside them; their arteries still burned with an effervescence contaminated with the sweat of minotaur’s and the menstrual blood of sirens. It is a book that portrays a period in history but with the taste of something that came before history, before civilization, before the written word, before the invention of time. The first settlers, with the first house-foundations, will be the ones who will finally make time open its eyes and start growing conscious – as if, the soil being perforated to seat the first beams, time started to gush off, like newfound petroleum.

It begins with creation. Even the fauna and flora, with plants with tick and oozing blood of milk, flowers with golden pollen, butterflies and mosquitos emerging like dense fog, and the birds singing on the branches, the tamarins jumping from tree to tree, the fat salamanders crawling in the viscous vegetation, the araras (macaws) whose flesh is blue and taste like musk: this environment seemed as the original jungles of Eden before the fall of humanity. It begins with creation, but it will march inexorably until the crack of doom.


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And then you get the same errors and weaknesses happening again and again and again, by generation after generation of characters, as if didn’t matter how much civilization changed, for the original and primeval world (where things still didn’t had a name, where men and women needed to point to indicate what they were referring to) could never be completely silenced. No matter how much technology and “progress” fertilized the world, still the original marrow of our bestial beings could never be suppressed: it kept screaming inside the bones and veins of the men and women of the book. Like the sweet and nauseating pulp of guava, there is no way to wash the taste, the nausea and the sweetness from this the people who are still and forever tattooed by the Dionysian stamp of the state-of-nature.

So this:

a) The sperm of Adam could never be dissolved from our species; the perfume of the apple never gagged, for it is forever entangled in our flesh: that seems to me one of the great themes of the book.

b) Somehow I feel that the author desired to portray the whole history of humanity – from the first shadows that crawled from the marshes of Eden (the slimy early-fishes creeping from sea to land), to the last cries of the last infants and the last whispers of the last ancients (whose backs carry the weight of all the thousands that lived before them) – occurring in one single town, during the course of mere 100 years.

It’s a great book.

>> No.11499434

what purple prose. dicksucking faggots.

>> No.11499476


If it's in Shakespeare or Joyce is genius.

If in the work of any other writer - Nabokov included - is purple prose.

Praise to Lord Hemingway and the grey newspaper-style!

>> No.11499479

>it's a solid 6/10 at best.

What's a 10/10 to you?

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