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ITT: /lit/erary confessions thread.

Confess your sins, it's not like you're going anywhere else.

>> No.11484764
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>>11484754
I'm a bit upset because I made a nice thread asking people what they were reading, what they last read and what their favourite book of the year was (while asking what their favourite animal was) and it got deleted after like five posts ;_;

it wouldn't hurt too much, I guess the animal thing was irrelevant to /lit/-related things (just a nice light hearted ice-breaker) but then you see constant shitposting that never gets deleted and you can't help but feel a little low about it all

>> No.11484775

I'm looking forward to Joe Wright's adaptation of Stoner. I don't think he's a good director but I find it hard to believe you could fuck up Stoner.

>> No.11484804

I bought a copy of A Brief History of Time from my local Tescos (it didn't cost me much and I heard it was an accessible normie science book so I was curious)

>> No.11484823

>>11484764
I'm rereading The Odissey and I like dogs, anon :3

>> No.11484831

>>11484754
would put my nose right into sucy's coochy if you can catch my drift haha :^)

>> No.11484852
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I've only read like 15? books after high school, Gravity's Rainbow was one...I'm 26. Currently reading TSATF by Faulkner, just finished June 2nd, 1910.

>> No.11484857

>>11484852
Embarrassing.

>> No.11484866

It's taken me over a month the get halfway through Notes From the Underground.

>> No.11484875

>>11484764
That hurts, dude. Sorry for your loss.

>> No.11484982

>>11484804
it's good.

>> No.11484986

>>11484804
Buying books from the supermarket is usually a red flag for me, I try to avoid it, but sometimes you'll see a book in there you're surprised to see and it's a lot lower in price than the price on the back of the book. I picked up a copy of Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep for £3, but it was priced at £10. I also picked up a Scandi-noir crime pulp book for £3 called I'm Travelling Alone. It probably won't be good, but some of the reviews are positive for it and the blurb sounded like some fun gritty crime romp so I'll give it a go.

>> No.11485000

I miss the adverts for J-list.

>> No.11485078

>>11484775
it's gonna fucking suck did you see any of his other adaptations he's going to ruin my pure favourite novel

>> No.11485081

>>11484866
Took me a month and a half to finish Blood Meridian. I really enjoyed it but I couldn't get through it as quickly as I could Corncob's other books.

>> No.11485085

Ryu Murakami > Haruki Murakami

>> No.11485091

>>11484775
I’m looking forward to it because I think the book is very overrated, and I hope the flood of /tv/ posters gushing about how good/bad it is will make /lit/ start to hate on it.
I know this is very unfair to the novel and I don’t even think it’s a bad book, nevertheless I desire it.

>> No.11485097

>>11484764
> /lit/ thread about literature
> it gets deleted
> Jezebel posting, blog posting, shitposting and race-bait posting is allowed

t-thanks mom

>> No.11485137

I dog-ear my books instead of using a bookmark.

I never buy my books pre-owned because the last time I did that I found a potato chip in the book

graphic novels and manga count as literature

>> No.11485143
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11485143

Every time I start a new book, on Goodreads I make sure to add the edition of the book with the most pages to my "currently reading" list.

When it's finished this allows me to inflate my reading stats so it seems I've read more pages than I actually have.

I also update my goodreads with short stories but each short story is added to my collection as an individual book so if I sit down and read 12 short stories in one day it looks like I've read 12 books in a day lol

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11485180

I enjoy reading visual novels and The House in Fata Morgana is the best book I've read so far this year.

>> No.11485186

>>11485180
any good visual novels on PC or PS4? I liked Root Letter, Steins Gate and Danganronpa. Chaos Child looked cool

>> No.11485191

I'm currently (almost) skimming through Gravity's Rainbow 'Zone' chapter. I sorta know what he wants to achieve, but price is huge, it's way to long sludge fest and it's unengaging as fuck. Hoping for better last chapter.

>> No.11485197

I skipped most of the second part of Gene Wolfe's Book of The Long Sun because his writing and character just tired me out

>> No.11485212

I’m almost certain my approach to reading fiction is worthless.

>> No.11485220

>>11485191
But the fun of GR is getting lost in his prose, dude.

>> No.11485238

I´ve stopped writing my novel because I´ve started to (E)RP more. Even had some nice plays

>> No.11485239

I know we're on 4chan and we're seen as the bastion for shitposting and hate, but I do wish /lit/ had less /pol/-posting, racism and sexism. There was a thread where a black anon was reading Gravity's Rainbow and asked what people thought of it and everyone just fixated on his hand being black (he took a picture of the book with his hand holding it).

There's also multiple threads about some black woman poet who wins some prestigious award and the replies are usually just "we wuz kangs" or some other nonsense that shows we're more bitter about someone else's success.

I don't necessarily want this place to be a safe space because that would feel sterile but I just wish we behaved a bit better. Very few of us would want to be caught in public spouting some of the things that are said on this board.

>> No.11485243

>>11485238
What's (E)RP?

>> No.11485247

>>11485243
(Erotic) Role Play, but I´ll probably continue my novel soon.

>> No.11485266

>>11485239
I kind of agree with you but that black anon 100% knew what he was doing by showing his hand, most likely it wasn’t even his picture and he was just trolling.

>> No.11485268

>>11485220
That's certainly cute, and I was surprised that someone can sustain that level of prose for so long, but I had enough of it after so much.
You just become too cynical, because there is plenty of fedora typing and vapid humor, and soon you just become towards Book what's pynchon to history and ww2.

>> No.11485297

>>11485268
Fair enough. No harm in taking a break to refresh yourself with something more accessible though. GR took me about 2-3 months to finish, it's definitely time consuming but it did feel very satisfying and there were plenty of passages I would consider my favourite out of everything I've read, even if the book does become crude at times.

Always loved the part with Slothrop trying british sweets for the first time and feeling absolutely disgusted. It's very funny as Pynchon begins teasing with traditional British sweets that are real (I'm British and a lot of us have a nostalgic fondness for cola cubes, chocolate limes, lemon sherberts, etc - different forms of boiled sweets) but gradually makes more absurd sweets up that probably sound just as absurd as the genuine ones.

>> No.11485308

I like the Harry Potter books and re-reading them injects me with childhood nostalgia almost instantly. Also still enjoy playing The Philosopher's Stone on PC.

>> No.11485324

>>11485143
patrician

>> No.11485407

>>11485297
I will take my time with it on my second read. I'm about to hit page 650 (out of 900), it took me 11 days so far. But I do feel desperate need for something concrete, because. next to GR I had spent this week going through Seijun Suzuki filmography, so I downloaded two westerns from fifties and ordered bunch of under-200-pages on book dep. Like anything, just to feel the earth again.

>> No.11485483

I am fluent in English, Spanish, French and German but I like to read Spanish books in English translations and German books in French translations. I don’t know why, I just find English and French easier to comprehend than Spanish and German.

>> No.11485494

>>11484866
Haha I did that in an hour and a half. Are you retarded?

>> No.11485500

>>11485137
>potato chip in the book
Which one of you did it?

>> No.11485503

>>11485143
Pathetic

>> No.11485518

>>11485483
Why not German in English and Spanish in French? Aren’t those languages closer to each other?

>> No.11485527

>>11485266
This

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>>11485197
It's okay anon. Wolfe is shit.

>> No.11485653

>>11485186
Like I said The House in Fata Morgana is great (it's the first book that's made me cry in a long time). Some other solid VNs are Kara no Shoujo, Saya no Uta, Kikokugai, Swan Song, Subahibi, Symphonic Rain, and Ever17. I've also heard good things about Chaos;Child but I haven't actually read it so I can't really comment on it.

>> No.11485766

>>11484986
>I’m traveling alone
Is it by Tore Renberg? If so, it’s not scandi-noir. He has some nice novels and some entrylevel ya stuff. He and Knausgård knows each other, they wrote short stories together in school or something, and I think they tried to get a lit magazine up and running together.

>> No.11487198

>>11485766
Nah, its some guy called Frode Sander Oien

>> No.11487211

>>11485137
> someone on God's beautiful green Earth thought it was such a good idea to eat and read at the same time they used a bit of food as a bookmark

>> No.11487219

>>11485407
I saw Youth of the Beast but I didn't quite click with it. Which other films of his should I see?

>> No.11487227

I forget everything about every book I read moments after I finish it.
I literally can't talk about the vast majority of the books I read aside from how they made me feel.

>> No.11487228

>>11485653
Thanks, pal, will check them out in the morning

>> No.11487234

>>11487227
Time to reread, brother.

>> No.11487323
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11487323

I read mostly for fun and not for any perceived attainment of higher knowledge. I know I’m doing it wrong but I can’t help it.

>> No.11487347

>>11484764
>>11485097
The eternal incompetence of janitors.

>> No.11487355

>>11485591
what the fuck

>> No.11487370

>>11487323
You're doing just fine, anon :-)

>> No.11487371

>>11487198
Oh, never mind then...

>> No.11487379

>>11484754
I can't remember anything I read and it takes me hours to read a few pages because I get so sidetracked

>> No.11487394

>>11484764
fuck you for being a discussion cuck

>> No.11487395

I just finished War and Peace and I found Tolstoy's historical-philosophical departures to be a slog. They were somewhat interesting at first but by the second epilogue it was painful to get through.

>> No.11487458

>>11487219
Branded and Drifter are classics and unavoidable.
Taisho trilogy is for the brave and for very special mood: Impenetrable, long, mad, boring...

>> No.11487617

>>11487458
Thanks, pal, will check them out.

>> No.11487732

I only read for 3 or so months at least 50 books then go idle for the rest of the year, I don't pay attention and leave books halfway, I enjoy trashy romantic more than deep philosophic literature, I think reading for anything other than for fun is pretentious and the only way to learn is by acquiring practical knowledge and meditating.

>> No.11487748

>>11487323
You actually doing right. Only pseuds read in order to appear more knowledgeable and intelligent

>> No.11487768

i use potato chips as bookmarks

>>11485143
you're only bluepilling yourself

>> No.11487816

>>11484764
This makes me incredibly sad for the future of this board.

>> No.11487845

>>11487816
the fact that you care makes me sad for you

>> No.11487966

I feel guilty every time I read a translated book which was originally written in a language I don't speak, despite how absurd that is.

>> No.11488122

>>11487323
Literally me.
>>11484754
I read because it's the only thing I find enjoyable.

>> No.11488156
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11488156

I skipped Wardines chapter in Infinite Jest and sometimes just skim the really long footnotes

>> No.11488247

>>11487395
It's shit and boring and they've almost made me fall asleep on the bus. I'd say they could be skipped without consequence if you are there for the story.
If you are there because you care about the sad Russian philosophy then read it, but otherwise it's a slog, only rivalled by Pierre's diaries.

>> No.11488258

I don't like the Greek epics. The Germanic ones are better.
I also don't like English-American literature.

>> No.11488276

>>11487845
Not him, but if this board dies where will we go? /lit/, while far from perfect, is the best literature forum around by a pretty wide margin

>> No.11488292

>>11488276
Make your own forum then.

>> No.11488631

>>11487748
Pseuds read in order to appear more knowledgeable and intelligent.
Intellectuals read to really become more knowledgeable and intelligent.

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>>11484754
I have thousands of dollars worth of books that ive never read yet I sometimes pretend that I have, acting as if the simple fact that I own them has imparted their knowledge to me

>> No.11488663

>>11484754
I like to have read books and feel good after I finish them but I absolutely despise reading.

>> No.11488723

I have The Illiad on my list to read since January and I've never read since. Still browse /lit/ though.

>> No.11488726

>>11484866
You need to start it over. If it takes you longer than two weeks to read that book you haven't read it.

Just take a deep breath, make peace with the fact that you will be reading it again, and just dive back in. Read 20 pages each day. You'll be done in less than 2 weeks.

>> No.11488751

>>11485266
trolling by being black?

>> No.11488923

I hate that this board reads the same 15-20 books and never discusses anything outside of them.

the russians are fucking boring writers.

Camus is garbage

I think genre fic has literary merit

I got so disillusioned with my time in academia that reading crit theory or philosophy gives me a headache now when I really used to be into it

>> No.11489000

>>11484754
I've spent most of my life from as far back as 2nd grade reading at a level that was advanced above my grade just reading fiction books and have only started transitioning to Non-fiction

>> No.11489005

>>11484764
>1984 by George Orwell
>Cats

>> No.11489036

>>11484754
I haven't finished reading a real book in years
I haven't touched a real book in months
The last book I read because I actually wanted was probably Diary of a Wimpy kid
I never read a serious adult book because I was interested in it, only for school stuff
I avoided reading books for school multiple times
I'm unable to write a proper dissertation be it in english or in my native language because I lack the vocabulary

>> No.11489038

I love Jung but hate Peterson
I'm about 200 pages into infinite jest, and while it's good, I think Broom of the system was better.
I think Stephen King has literary merit and I bought his book On Writing to understand his genius
I read books on social manipulation and take notes, so I have an entire notebook on how to take over the world
Charles Dickens is the worst author I have ever read, including genre fiction and children's lit

>> No.11489047

>>11484754

all of the literature i consume I consume nowadays is in audio format. I only ever read the text if I wan't to analyze or underline a passage. Sometimes I will also make an exception if the book I want to read isn't on audible.

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>>11484754
i post on fit more than lit . i and other fit anons miss fit lit
>>>/fit/46912727
>>11484764
hang in there bro were all going to make it !
cats !

>> No.11489143

>>11485191
Nigger, part 3 is the best part....

>> No.11489155

>>11484754
Most of the books I purchase are /lit/ recommendations.
Most of the books I read are thrillers I check out from the library
Also, I cannot stop prematurely ejaculating and it is costing me a chance at a relationship.

>> No.11489159

>>11488726
>aping some gay philip roth interview
based

>> No.11489168

>>11488156
Yeah probably fine

>> No.11489266

>>11489155
Seriously, go to a urologist about ED/pre and get sildenafil, generic viagra. Lose the anxiety

>> No.11489402

>>11489038
King does have literary merit. He's not a genius or a phenomenal writer but he's prolific as fuck and has written some great stories.

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>>11489266
>Lose the anxiety
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GSeWdjyr1c&t=7s&list=PL2-rIV2kB9x6-ETm9OruDxPP_v8nbrUuq&index=6
meditate , learn not to fight against what is
accept what is

>> No.11489415

>>11484866
Me reading the Odyssey, it's so boring.

>> No.11489421

>>11489415
I feel your pain, I enjoyed the Iliad but the Odyssey seems pretty weak in comparison.

>> No.11489529

>>11485518
In my experience, many of the older English translations of German texts aren't very accurate in that they don't capture the spirit of the book as well as their French counterparts who have a better handle on the setting and material. Even John E Woods, hailed as the savior of 20th-C German lit for the American masses sounds disingenuous when compared to even the most pedestrian of French paraphrases.
As for French translations of Spanish works: why even bother? I'd rather read the original if I wanted to deal with less apostrophes. Again, translators too often rely on the languages' romantic proximity and lose the thread of meaning in the knot of communication.

>> No.11489554

>>11484754
I started reading Mishima as he's life has a disturbing similarity to my grandfather's, between that and Pewdiepie's review of the sear of fertility, I gave in and started with Confessions of a mask, Im overthinking if I should tackle the sea of fertility or read the temple of the gold pavilion first, as confessions is a quasi biography and not a novel so, I might get myself into a 2k pages adventure that I might not like.
I felt a horrible shame after I read Agota Kristoff's trilogy (based on my interest on Mother 3, though I never played of finished neither that game or Earthbound) for the second time, as I forgot the plotwist and how horribly painful accurate they're about how someone can destroy their lives by clinging to the past.
I hated the odyssey but loved the Iliad (though I still feel moved by Odysseus crying and hiding his tears, as he remembers his country)
I hate the magical realism and Pedro Paramo (a sin if you are a beaner) and haven't read the labyrinths of solitude

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>>11489554
The tetralogy is quite good. i-if you want my opinion, that is.

>> No.11489589

>>11489570
was confessions a good introduction to Mishima?
what books should I definitely read or avoid on your personal opinion?
is sun and steel / the code of the samurai in modern japan worth it? are they a different vision of the world or just incoherent ramble?
Anyone other writer similar to him? I liked how his writing is interesting even as he's describing something not interesting by itself and his non linearity: Skips of times or he talking about things that he hasn't explained (he talking about the white gloves even though at that point, he hasn't mention it yet).

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>>11489589
>was confessions a good introduction to Mishima?
It was my introduction, same with many people.
>definitely read
I would say to defiantly read the Tetralogy, Sailor, Forbidden Colors, Golden Pavilion, Thirst for Love, & Natsuko's Adventure.
>Sun and Steel
Yes, if you want to learn a bit more about his personal politics. It's more of an essay than a novel.
>Anyone other writer similar to him?
Not that I have come across yet, sadly.

>> No.11489645

>>11489624
Thanks for answering anon, I think Im just overthinking for fun (my personal vice) and I should stop and just start the Tetralogy (and stop overthinking in general).
Those are some fine rare Mishima pictures.

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>>11489645
You're welcome. No worries, friend.

>> No.11489742

>>11488258
Rec your favorite germanic ones.

>> No.11489821

>>11484754
I wrote a story once that had a scene where a planet had an earthquake so strong it broke into pieces that all flew into different directions. (One of the pieces was supposed to crash into a different planet into the end of the first book of a decalogy. Neither the decalogy, nor the end first book came to be because no paper was strong enough to endure my talent.) When I told my older brother about this plot development, he commented that earthquakes result from pieces of crust gravitating towads each other and they definitely can't fly apart like I wanted. I took his comment to heart and corrected the scene by adding one sentence that read "This earthquake was unusual".

>> No.11489890

>>11484764
Just finished reading Walden
previously had read The Woman in the Dunes
My favourite read of the year so far has probably been Stoner (I know it's a meme but it's a beautiful book too)

Favourite animal is between a nice dog and a pretty pony

>> No.11489893

>>11487845
You gotta have a place for downtime, dude

>> No.11489898

>>11488156
I couldn't make it through ten pages of Infinite Jest because DFW's prose felt gimmicky and autistic.

>> No.11489899

>>11488654
If you've never read them people can tell by whether the spine has been creased or not, whether the pages have been thumbed through/over, etc.

>> No.11489910

>>11485266
I don't get that at all. As a black anon, if I were to post a picture of a book being held by my hand, I'm very unlikely to get my white buddies to stand-in for me to hold the book, it's just ridiculous.

On the other hand, when I visit 4chan I know people are calling each other nigger this and faggot that and really it comes down to idiots being idiots as the anonymity of being behind the keyboard can protect people from saying the dumbest shit. Really if you come to 4chan, expect to fling shit and get a thicker skin while you're here. Most people on here, in the real world are manlet man-children full of insecurities and social retardation, but at least on here they get the n-word pass lol. People really should just toughen up on here if the behaviour upsets them.

Now it's a different matter when the 4chan autism bleeds into reality, like when people scared that booktuber girl from youtube by sending her sexual comments or whatever. People shouldn't do that.

>> No.11489921

>>11489038
Stephen King is definitely a good businessman and I thoroughly admire how he can bring out a book or two almost every year and how they sell like hot cakes, kinda like Neil Gaiman too. Never really read much of either of their works but I know casual readers who enjoy their works as well as professional TV writers who also sing their praises, so while they might not be geniuses of literary fiction like Joyce or Dostoevsky, they clearly have merit, right?

Definitely a few books by both writers I'd like to read sometime.

>> No.11489930

>>11489155
- that's fine you gotta start somewhere, best to read all the books we've all already read beforehand so you can jump in on the conversations, better late than never
- hey boo you do you, if you like thrillers that's cool
- hey just jack off before you fuck, maybe once in the morning, once an hour before fucking and then you'll likely last longer albeit you may only cum a droplet or whatever

>> No.11489973

>>11489910
>if I were to post a picture of a book being held by my hand, I'm very unlikely to get my white buddies to stand-in for me to hold the book, it's just ridiculous
You don’t have to post you hand at all, is the point. Just google a picture of the cover like most people do. Showing your black hand has the same effect as a girl exposing that she is a girl in the picture. It’s going to result in shit flinging and the person posting it is well aware the vast majority of the time.

>> No.11490008

>>11489973
I get that, I do, but there's very little drama when white guys are posting a picture of their hand holding the book so to me it just seems silly that there was drama over that one thread (although the other anon is probably right, someone probably saved that picture to troll)

>> No.11490085

>>11490008
I agree with you, it’s silly and really annoying when threads asking about african literature gets spammed and derailed with >niggers can’t write, too. Just ignore it and try to write helpful posts.

>> No.11490099

>>11490085
Thanks, anon. I try to be helpful and my usual reaction when I see the typical hateful stuff is just to take it on the chin because, after all, I'm on 4chan, I know what I'm getting into. It's nice to see there are people who are understanding here though.

>> No.11490322

>>11488923
wrong except about genre fiction having merit, as long as it's good genre fiction of course

>> No.11490329

Almost all of the books I've read in the past year are by Murakami, Garcia Marquez, or Nabokov and I wouldn't have it any other way

>> No.11490334

I did not start with the Greeks

>> No.11490359

I like to book

>> No.11490511

>>11489742
Read the fucking NIBELUNGENLIED you plebs!
This was a public service announcement.

>> No.11490570

>>11489159
please link the interview

>> No.11490936

I have this idea in my head that books have the best stories in any medium, but I have a lot more fun and more fulfilling experiences with anime and manga than with literature.

>> No.11491350

>>11484764
Fucking narcissist.

>> No.11491571

Does anyone consider reading visual novels to be like reading books? I've read more visual novels these past few months over reading books.

>> No.11491583

Almost everyone in my novel sound kind of autistic. I base all of them off myself. I'm worried if anyone would read a novel full of autistic people.

>> No.11491693

>>11484754
whenever people say they read as a hobby I take the mick and don't tell people I read even when asking even though it's one of my main hobbies

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>>11491693
this. reading is not a hobby, it's life

>> No.11492511 [DELETED] 

I didn't know who Kafka was for a while so when people would say Kafkaesque I thought they were saying Kafkaesque as in the villain from Final Fantasy 6 and it sorta confused me at first but I'd just think "Oh they mean it's like the way that character was" but I never understood why academics would reference final fantasy until that fateful day I saw the phrase used in a thread dedicated to the man himself and my foolishness hit me like a bus.

>> No.11492537

I didn't know who Kafka was for a while so when people would say Kafkaesque I thought they were saying Kefkaesque as in Kefka from Final Fantasy 6 and it sorta confused me at first but I'd just think "Oh they mean it's like the way that character was" but I never understood why academics would reference final fantasy until that fateful day I saw the phrase used in a thread dedicated to the man himself and my foolishness hit me like a bus.

>> No.11492623

>>11484764
>Reading Mythology by Edith
>Last read a shitty leadership book and 1984
>Favorite book of the year is 1Q84
>Cat girls

>> No.11492627

>>11485085
>His novels explore human nature through themes of disillusion, drug use, surrealism, murder and war, set against the dark backdrop of Japan.
DROPPED harder than the nukes on his ancestors

>> No.11492645

>>11485186
Steins; Gate is great
There's cheap ons on Steam and a free one called Lucid 9. It's actually a pretty good story the farther you get into it I put 30 hours into that.

>> No.11492675

I read more about reading books then actually reading books

>> No.11492707

>>11484764
I'm reading the restaurant at the end of the universe and cats

>> No.11492747

I don't really care about having the truest model of reality anymore so much as the most logically defensible optimism.

>> No.11492797

>>11491583
People fucking loved Stoner dude.

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11492798

Im going to Italy just because I fell in love with a girl with a good literary taste
This can't go too bad, right Anons?

>> No.11492824

>>11492798
You are young anon, you do you.

>> No.11492872

>>11492798
how sure are you it's a girl?

>> No.11492892

>>11492798
Where in Italy?

>> No.11492933

I read through the Iliad and the Odyssey a few months ago and since then have found myself only occasionally and unenthusiastically opening a Plato dialogue due to how incredibly boring I find them. Made it through Gorgias in a single 5 hour sitting somehow though.

>> No.11492961

>>11492798
Where is Italy?

>> No.11492973

>>11492961
Or rather: Why is Italy?

>> No.11492980

>>11485191
I'm glad you confessed but some things cant be forgiven.

>> No.11492985

>>11492824
Young as fuck but I will die probably at my 30's, I have nothing to lose
>>11492872
We've talked on camera and everything, if she is a trap that's a plus
>>11492892
>where
>>11492961
Africa probably

>> No.11493004

>>11485078
i guess my sin to confess is that i genuinely loved his adaptation of anna karenina
all the stagey stuff and fluid way it turned into the more realistic stuff and back worked so great and he fucking nailed levin, the best character

>> No.11493051

>>11490511
Been meaning to read it since seeing the Fritz Lang movie.

>> No.11493058

>>11491350
Says you lol

>> No.11493067

>>11492627
Your loss, Ryu writes a nasty severed ear inserted into a vagina rape scene

>> No.11493068

>>11484754
>confessions threads on multiple boards
Piss off CIA fags, I'm not giving you anymore blackmail material than you already have.

>> No.11493073

>>11492798
Let me save you the hassle shes probably a pizza

>> No.11493079

>>11493068
/lit/ confession threads are fun though

>> No.11493120

>>11493079
confession threads are just camouflaged blogposting threads

>> No.11493302

>>11493120
Sometimes. Still fun though

>> No.11493347

>>11487966
I've read Mishima's work in Japanese and English. I can not speak for all, but for the most part, the feeling is translated more then words. Think like earthbound. So don't feel like you missed out.

>> No.11493388

so much of my time is spent reading and i have no one to talk to about it. shitposting here isnt the same.

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>>11484852
amazing chapter tho

>> No.11493685

>>11493073
I hope God listens you

>> No.11493704
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11493704

I write PG rated science fiction/fantasy romance. Pretty much all of my heroines are tsundere tomboys. I'm currently putting the finishing touches on a 12k word short story about a wanna-be casanova star pilot falling for his nerdy tomboy co-pilot. It's the second longest thing I've written so far.

>> No.11493738

>>11493704
I felt relieved reading this. Thank you.

>> No.11494991

this is as close to a literary community as i've ever had

>> No.11495250

>>11485000
Me too buddy

>> No.11495265

>>11485653
>that's made me cry
>to a Japanese porno novel
Holy kek, now this is pathetic

>inb4 but it has no porn! It's a master work
Sure onichan

>> No.11495284

I find it difficult to say why I liked or disliked a book. Although this is the same for most media I consume.

>> No.11495290

>>11493120
You’re thinking of write what’s on your mind threads

>> No.11495317

>>11484754
Ive had several pussy professors. All white. I got stalked by the cops. All white. These white rapist fucks stalked me for years. For no fucking reason other thab their racist losers with nothing better to fo. It’s a disgrace.

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>>11489821
>Neither the decalogy, nor the end first book came to be because no paper was strong enough to endure my talent.

>> No.11495353

>>11495317
>anon
>having even one pussy

>> No.11495355

>>11495317
oh wait i get it now, some anon a while ago stated his intent to larp as as schizophrenic guy, and now we see his output in action

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>>11484754
I've never read a single book in my entire life.
Still spend all my time shitposting here.

>> No.11496261

>>11493704
If the tomboy wears spats it would be kino.

>> No.11496272

I am Russian and I honestly cannot stand Dostoevsky and Tolstoy. IMO they are two of the most overrated writers this country has ever spawned.

>> No.11496321

>>11496272
Well. At least you're not Norwegian.
People here only know Hamsun because he was an edgy nazi sympathizer and that's just kind of trendy these days. Yes yes I know Ibsen too but he was a playwright and I really doubt people here are going to theater to see Norwegian plays preformed.

>> No.11496375

>>11488292
Lol that's some shit bait. Cultivating a community like /lit/ isn't as easy as "make it and they will come."

>> No.11496381

>>11496321
What are some norwegian authors you think deserves more recognition then?

>> No.11496417

>>11496381
Maybe Amalie Skram and the rest of the naturalism gang. But I suppose most of that all goes untranslated. So we have to resign ourselves to the fate of Sult being the token Norwegian book.

>> No.11496798

>>11484754

I heard the entire daodejing on youtube and wrote it down. The stephen mitchell version, that is. I still feel dirty for it, but it was a good entrance into the subject.

Now I write down the german translation by Richard Wilhelm to blissfully ponder upon its meaning.

>> No.11496808

>>11489053
I love you.

>> No.11496819

>>11484754
I talk about authors I haven't read.

>> No.11497559

>>11496819
Please stop

>> No.11497576

>>11493704
I dig tsunderes but not sure about tomboys, would probably friendzone

>> No.11497594

>>11493388
This. I used to talk to my lecturers about literature which was fun but since graduating I can only talk lit here and goodreads.

>> No.11497652

>>11496239
Literally why though

>> No.11497660

>>11496272
Russia confirmed for pleb central , novochok me, bitch

>> No.11497886

>>11497652
Reading is boring.

>> No.11497955

>>11485308
I unironically want to re-read them so badly, but I'm afraid I'll just ruin my childhood memories.

>> No.11497975

>>11497955
If you're working on a second language I've heard that reading translated HP is a good way to practice.

>> No.11498079

>>11484754

Pony fanfics brought me back to reading.

>> No.11498122

>>11497886
No I mean why are you even here? Shitposting is on every board, wouldn't you rather post on a board that caters to your interests more?

>> No.11499129

I don't feel guilty about these.

Anyone who reads fiction for "insights" is a low IQer or a pseud.

Pynchon is pseud shit. Dostoevsky books are horrendous, boring as fuck ramblings with half assed philosophy or social commentary thrown in to appeal to the pseuds.

The Atlantic article that shits on Delillo and McCarthy and others is spot on. Though those two have written good stuff, and so has Pynchon.

I have never read a magnum opus that justified its length. Writers write them at the point when they know critics and other pseuds will praise them no matter what.

Most modern books are barely disguised memoirs by MFA clones.

It is a huge disadvantage for literature that publishing companies that are filled with homogenous Democrat / Labour voting women. The gatekeepers are dumb as shit, deal with it.

Literature academia is worthless. If your "literary analyses" don't allow you to create anything worthwhile then it is shit.

Fantasy is almost all automatically shit because everything is 50 books long.

Every single allegedly classic non fiction book written from 1400 to 1900 could be summarised without any loss in 20 pages for each one.

Many modern non fiction books are not written to be read, only referenced.

>>11487395

I absolutely agree but compared with other books like Dostoevsky being entirely shit philosophical pseud ramblings, I could easily forgive Tolstoy.

>> No.11499318

The Genesis sucks ass when compared to Homer's or Hesiod's work and I'm considering skipping the whole Bible because of it.

>> No.11499428

>>11499129
>Every single allegedly classic non fiction book written from 1400 to 1900 could be summarised without any loss in 20 pages for each one.
This is bad, man.

>> No.11499986

>>11484754
I don't really read that much, I just lurk here to feel smart

>> No.11500026

>>11484804
If you enjoyed a brief history of time then Road Map To Reality is that up to 11. Highest recommendation possible to that book

>> No.11500053

>>11489038
Can you recommend some books on social manipulation?

>> No.11500067

>>11499129
dostoevsky is fucking beautiful and i genuinely don't understand people who have this reaction to him. the philosophical stuff is never his own opinions, it is the perspective of a character. The brothers karamazov especially is just unearthly in how beautiful it is, it is among the handful of novels i actually care about

>> No.11500068

I feel like I need some guidance on my editing. I decided recently to retool the plot of the second half of my novel but as I'm writing it I'm starting to suspect that my edits are actually worse than what they're replacing

>> No.11500083

>>11499318
Homer's work is the transcription of an oral tradition that evolved for a long time and was set down in accordance with an artistic goal. Hesiod's theogony is what youre referring to here im guessing, and again it is more in the realm of myth than religious text. If the difference isn't clear a myth is more like a religious parable, the philosophical ideas are embedded in metaphor or themes. A religious text encompasses all other endeavors, all philosophy, science, history, art, etc. it attempts to outline reality itself.

So the bible is an entirely different beast, it is not myth or art, it is the honest attempt at recording what these people thought the fundamentals of reality were. as such it's basically a shitshow of different types of text, centred around a series of religious revelations that majorly impacted the peoples in question.

>> No.11500105

I think the vast majority of literature produced in the last 200 years is complete garbage, especially Joyce, Wallace and Pynchon. The novel is the most pretentious writing genre ever conceived in the history of mankind and pale in comparison to sacred texts, epic poems and other historical genres.

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>>11484764
I’m reading gravity’s rainbow and my favorite animal would be cats and my favorite book of last year would be White Fang. Have a nice day Anon

>> No.11500168

>>11500105
I think I agree with you in part, but I'm not sure what you mean when you say the novel is the most pretentious literary form. Can you elaborate on that thought? What makes it inherently pretentious, and more so than other literary media? And is that a universal claim or are there novels you've read that you would say defy that generalization?

>> No.11500218

>>11484764
Reading Dune right now, I really like snakes.

>> No.11500241

>>11500168
The novel only gained prominence during the age of increasing mass literacy, whereas before this literature was only intended for those who were sophisticated enough to understand it. It's a matter of quantity vs quality.

>> No.11500262

>>11485186
Himawari no Shojo, MLA, G-Senjou, Grisaia, Swan Song, Rewrite, Clannad, Ayakashibito,Higurashi, Nonary Games series, Dies Irae and Fate if you don't mind chuuni

>> No.11500381

>>11487323
>look at image
>immediately assume it was some guy getting his dick sucked
Such is the life for degenerates.

>> No.11500956

>>11500381
That's the point of the image you dumbfuck

>> No.11500999

>>11500956
I already read the text so I knew it was meant to be a guy reading a book; the image was still him getting his knob sucked to me even with the context.
Wow, what a fucking joke amiright. What mongoloid looks at the image before reading the text?

>> No.11501002

>>11484754
When I was 15 I used to set my sights on big classics and I'd almost invariably zone out half way through and not know what was going on anymore. I just kept on though, kept moving my eyes over the page numbly, getting absolutely no meaning from the words, until I got to the last page. Now I tell people that I have read those books.

>> No.11501006

>>11489910
>Now it's a different matter when the 4chan autism bleeds into reality, like when people scared that booktuber girl from youtube by sending her sexual comments or whatever. People shouldn't do that.
Why are other parts of the internet 'reality' if 4chan isn't. Is it because they have girls and we don't?

>> No.11501463

Every second book I read is intentionally <200 pages so I can pad the number of books I've read per year.

I'll buy books with nice covers or interesting titles at book fairs, read a couple pages at home, decide they're boring, and leave them on my shelf for years without reading them.

I re-read books a lot. I've probably read Sun Also Rises 8 or so times. Anyone who doesn't re-read doesn't understand what they're reading.

I got into reading to seem cultivated to impress a hipster qt in high school and accidentally went too deep.

Victorian realism is fucking boring to read.

Translations of novels are never faithful. You will never know a book properly unless you read it in the original language. 90% of translated poetry is shit.

I've never heard a slam poem I liked.

We live in a dark age of literature. Reading is now a symbol of social currency among younger generations.

Most of what I've read after about the 70s is crap.

Political correctness is ruining literature. So is a lack of understanding about the linguistic qualities of language.

Modernism was important and produced a lot of good poems but also ruined poetry. The next important movement in poetry will be a return to form and storytelling.

DFW is utter shit. So is Siddhartha. Stoner is overrated but OK.

McCarthy was good but became shit halfway through his career. Blood Meridian sucks. Same with Hemingway; FHTBT and AFTA both suck.

Faulkner is the greatest American writer. Greene is the greatest British writer.

The Beats are complete garbage.

The best British authors are generally superior to the best American authors, because they don't forsake a good story for artistic expression.

Gass is ass.

>> No.11501531

>>11501463
>Every second book I read is intentionally <200 pages

Sometimes I just stack 3-4 books like this, just after finishing some overly long pseud cred. Just to revitalize my self.

>> No.11501541

>>11484754
I come here for more intellectual /pol/ discussions, I barely read books at all.

>> No.11501581

I don't finish most books I read.

I dropped Journey to the End of the Night (in French) a hundred and fifty pages away from the end, and I meant to pick it up again last year but didn't.
I don't understand why, because overall I've found the book nice and funny, but I feel like the story became a bit boring when Bardamu came back to Paris, with long chapters where nothing very exciting is happening, just like in real life I guess.

I spend more time reading your stupid opinions about philosophers on the warosu archive than I do actually read philosophers.

I feel like I would read a lot more non-fiction if I could read them as blogposts or internet publications. I'm a lot less distracted when I read on my smartphone than with my Kobo or paperbacks.

>> No.11501607

>>11501463
>Anyone who doesn't re-read doesn't understand what they're reading
I wish this was a more common opinion on /lit/. Re-reading is great.

>> No.11501621

I gave up on The Tale of Genji even though I like everything else from the Heian period that I've read

>> No.11501639

>>11489899
Some of my paperbacks seem unread even though I've read them. Some of them have clear signs of wear even after one read. Pretty annoying, but no one sees my books besides me anyway.

>> No.11501674

>>11496375
do you even bible

>> No.11501709

>>11495355
No i'm over in the platonist ideals thread posting about memes and god

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11501599
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11501633

Look at the first google results for my post numbers that got dubs

>> No.11501735

>>11501621
I haven't even opened mine, my dude. Why is it so many fucking pages.

>> No.11501860

>>11501709
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11501633
>The schema of a medical terminology offered by an object-oriented representation is a valuable tool in providing an abstract view of the terminology, enhancing comprehensibility and making it more usable.
Fucking Javafags I swear. You can't escape their OOP fanaticism, even in goddamn hospitals.

>> No.11501862

>>11485239
Anon, all we want is our own country.

>> No.11501871

>>11500241
That answered approximately none of my questions.

>> No.11501885

>>11501860
Heh. (you)

>> No.11501959

My favorite books are a series of 3 YA fiction novels. I don't think I even like the books I just really like the setting even though I know it isn't super unique and I like to daydream about all the things that happen there.

>> No.11501973

>>11485137
>tfw always edge for several hours and shoot a gigantic load inbetween the last two pages of every book I sell so they're stuck together

>> No.11502006

I hate reading but there's so much I wanna have read that I keep doing it even though I hate it

>> No.11502081

>>11489910
I say nigger, faggot, etc all time but I don't see them as "slurs" in my mind, or at least I don't use them as such. When I call someone a nigger it's the same as calling them an asshole.

This isn't something I do in real life but I don't use it trying to be hurtful to a specific group, but i do know that 99% of people don't understand this so you have to be careful.

>> No.11502231

>>11484754
I tried to impress people with books I have skimmed but recoiled when people said they have actually read it...

I opened thread to talk about topics only when I was sure that I was the only one around qualified to talk about them. If I spot people more qualified I opened my threads else where...

When I am on /his/ I want to talk about literature because I can't compete in knowledge to the topics there but when I am on /lit/ I found I am only interested in writers and their relation to historical events, not in their works. But actually I only want to be on /pol/...

>> No.11502303

>>11501860
Wow that's actually a great idea!! How come I didn't think of that before?
We can write so many terms into Java class and write them like objects!
Not just medical terms, but history, philosophy, or any humanities topics that has structures!

And the codes don't have to do anything! We only write them for humans to read, so computers can organize the trees for them!

>> No.11502339

>>11484852
I'm 29 and last that I stopped to try to count I think I've read around 200 books in my life, 100 of them being from 27-29.
I literally read the same amount in the past 2 years that I have in all my other 27 years.
I always feel really bad when I think about that
like
>tfw all those years wasted
>tfw could have read all the major works I want to by now but didn't

>> No.11502349

>>11502081
>nigger it's the same as calling them an asshole
>99% of people don't understand this
I think they do anon, you are the one who doesn't understand what you are implying

>> No.11502444

>>11492627
bro i coughed up my capri sun lol

>> No.11502594

>>11502339
Same here.
I took pride when I finally figured out how to use online catalogue, by keying in last name first, and by clicking on subject heading. By then I was 20.

By the time I figured out how LCC works I was 30...

>> No.11502633

>>11502339
>read books
>saw smart kids reading major books
>can't into major works because every line was so dense
>snob the kids and continue reading books that interest my
>hit 30
>realized that the major works have been cited by books I have read 30 times each
>realized I have to start from the basic and read books that have been recommended to me for years

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>>11484764
Reading For One More Day by Mitch Albom. Last read The Outsiders, and I don’t really have a favorite for this year. Gotta look at more modern books I guess. Also, rabbits are great.

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>>11484754
I only read visual novels, I'm so sorry /lit/. Please forgive me.

>> No.11502661

>>11502646
You at least know nip right and aren't reading the awful translations?

>> No.11502674

>>11501463
>Every second book I read is intentionally <200 pages so I can pad the number of books I've read per year.
I just do it cause i have a low attention span

>> No.11502697

>>11502661
I only know English

>> No.11502698

>>11484754
>take pride on reading "books without picture"
>want to post about it
>hear /sci/ and /g/ people laughing that if my book doesn't need diagram then it's nothing
>hear Anon telling story about being bullied by a teacher who tried to discourage "books with pictures" and he never checked anything from library again
>decide not to post about it

>> No.11502757

>be pretentious and go to college library to learn about one specific topic
>locate the topic on a shelf
>99% of the books on that shelf are too detailed and fragmented for me
> only one book can give me a broad introduction on the topic

>go to public library
>every book on the shelf fits my level
> actually learned more from reading a children's book than trying to read a phd thesis

>> No.11503388

PTA should adapt Blood Meridian.

>> No.11503434

>>11499129
Literal pleb, you'd get fookin decked, pal

>> No.11503447

>>11500026
Thanks, man, will definitely check it out

>> No.11503472

>>11501607
I've read the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy series 4 or 5 times.

Rereading a favorite book is comfy

>> No.11503543

>>11500068
Most people do need a second opinion to be honest. You can usually pay professional readers to read your work and they'll write a constructive report full of notes you can apply to your next draft. Some competitions will include reports like these into the submission fee so if you don't win anything you can at least have an idea on where to improve (research the competition though as they don't always provide feedback and some competitions are literal scams - if the previous winners don't show anything when you google them then that's a red flag).

Get involved in a writing group, IRL on via social media. Many groups on Facebook focus on writing and reading with plenty of people who will read through what you have and give feedback. A group of writers achieve much more in an afternoon than one writer can do in a week - issues with your story could gain multiple solutions by engaging with other writers.

Books focusing on rewriting and redrafting can be useful for your own independent study. Check Amazon for some that sound useful. I can only really recommend books focusing on rewriting screenplays, not sure if that's what You're looking for though.

>> No.11503561

>>11484764
Just finished The Idiot
Fave book I read this year is A Brief History of Seven Killings
Going to read Walden next

Horses are cool and so are dogs but im a meme as i love pugs

>> No.11503569

>>11500262
Thanks , man, gonna check them out

>> No.11503573

I'm not gonna read literary fiction until September.
Gonna read something comfy.

>> No.11503577

>>11501002
Reread them, you may enjoy them more now

>> No.11503589

>>11501006
Yeah basically we're the yugioh club playin custom decks at lunch time when others are eatin they packed pussy lol no girls allowed wanna play D&D how good is star trek do you like my mario hat

>> No.11503801

>>11502303
are you taking the piss

>> No.11503822

i hate reading and just come here for the memes

>> No.11503833

>>11501531
Me too, just finished Don Quixote so now I'm following it up with some novellas.

>> No.11503854

>>11501621
What didn't you like about it? I'd like to read it sometime

>> No.11503872

>>11484754
I feel guilty for reading so much fiction and daily mail tier gossip books like The social network, American Kingpin (the book about Silk Road) and other shit like that.

>> No.11503874

>>11501006
No because 4chan flashes "Anon" on your posts and that gives you a false sense of identity

>> No.11503889

I have spent hours preparing txt files but I can't last one minute reading them
The files are still taking up space on my computer.

>> No.11503895

>>11484754
I hate books that are <400 pages. It makes it seem like they're too easy, like I could read them in just a few days because they're so short, that I don't have to try. I get lazy, I make excuses to not read (it's so short it doesn't matter, I'll just finish it tomorrow!). I intentionally almost exclusively read 700-1000+ pages to keeo myself on my toes, alert, focused, and always intent on continuing to read.

But at the end of the day it doesn't even matter because I read for plot and prose.