Give sociology recs

[Anonymous No.11385665]

I've read a bunch of stuff from people like Weber, Durkheim, and Marx. Where do I go next?

[Anonymous No.11385671]

jordaan peterson

[Anonymous No.11385674]

broaden your views with ethnology ?
or maybe Bourdieu if you stick to sociology

[Anonymous No.11385704]

>>11385674
I've heard about his distinction but will I miss anything not having read much sociology? Or would there be a better place to start with him?

[Anonymous No.11385715]

>>11385665
goffman, parsons

[Anonymous No.11385720]

>>11385704
hmm I haven't read any of his 'big' books because his prose is annoying enough (endless sentences with tons of parentheses etc.). There's a collection of short essays by him (many of which are interviews or lectures) called "Sociology in question" - I really like it because it's about varied themes, some of which are unessential-yet-interesting (sports, haute couture, music...), some other being fundamental and philosophical (about sociology itself, language, the notion of "field" etc.).
Here's the summary, just in case https://catalogue.nla.gov.au/Record/1619505

[Anonymous No.11385746]

>>11385715
looked them up thanks for the rec
>>11385720
added to my list thanks my dude
I'll get to his books but not for a while probably

[Anonymous No.11385772]

>>11385746
read goffman's presentation of self in everyday life and bourdieu's invitation to reflexive sociology, both easy to read books and reflect their theories well

[Anonymous No.11385779]

Zygmunt Bauman is interesting, especially his works on the holocaust and liquid modernity

[Anonymous No.11385791]

>>11385779
WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY

[Anonymous No.11385838]

>>11385779
liquid modernity looks pretty interesting ill chick it out
also any recs specifically about tertiarization? I've heard the term and it looks like something I wanna read into

[Anonymous No.11385868]

>>11385779
Lol my friend told me about this guy, he spooky af. He was in the Polish Communist party, worked in military intelligence and counter-insurgency. He left Poland and went to Israel for a few years, then magically, during the Cold War, went to England and became a professor of sociology at the University of Leeds. Is he the Polish Communist James Bond?

[Anonymous No.11385883]

>>11385779
>>11385838
>>11385868
As he is ex-military intelligence, the man is most likely full of shit. Lying and deception would come naturally to him. So his scholarship about the Holocaust and Modernity would most likely be a bunch of la-la theories dressed up as serious academic work. My friend had to read him for a Sociology degree she is undertaking here in Aus.

[Anonymous No.11385908]

>>11385883
>I havent read this but this is my opinion on what it might be
lmao

[Anonymous No.11385950]

>>11385908
Baumann's background as a Communist military intelligence officer and in counter-insurgency doesn't exactly inspire confidence in him being an honest person. I'm willing to examine his scholarship, but i'm dubious to its value as the man is just too spooky.

[Anonymous No.11386045]

>>11385665
The Souls of Black Folk by W.E.B. Du Bois. And after that you might try Fanon who was heavily inspired by Du Bois

[Anonymous No.11386048]

If you're interested in sociology, then I highly recommend you start looking into actual scientific fields.

[Anonymous No.11386073]

>>11386048
maybe I'm looking for stuff outside of STEM my dude (which is what I study)

[Anonymous No.11386091]

>>11385674
came here to suggest this. (ethnology)


if you like the durkheim/mauss approach you can try Marcel Granet, who applied it t china, and Louis Dumont, who applied it to india.

[Anonymous No.11386139]

C. Wright Mills
Peter Berger

[Anonymous No.11386157]

>>11385665
This is my first semester at uni and had to read these 3 cuz I'm doin social work

I made a mistake

[Anonymous No.11386235]

>>11386048
spooked

[Anonymous No.11386267]

marcel mauss, georg simmel, le bon, freud, malinowski, e. evans pritchard, lofgren, kent bloomer and charles moore, anthony giddens, marshall sahlins, wolfgang schivelbusch, daniel miller, paul rabinow, foucault, paul connerton, melford spiro, vincent crapanzano, wilhelm reich, guy debord, lacan, deleuze and guattari, baudrillard

[Anonymous No.11386276]

>>11386267
also de certeau, bourdieu

[Anonymous No.11386432]

>>11385665
>Weber, Durkheim, and Marx
Adorno is your next one

[Anonymous No.11386446]

>>11386048
Like Economics?

[Anonymous No.11386553]

In this order, as a semi random order of comprehension leads to greater understanding of the whole

Works of Walter Bagehot
Ancient Complex Societies
The Collapse of Complex Societies
The Prince
New Science
The Biology of Civilisation: Understanding Human Culture as a Force in Nature
The Horse, the Wheel, and Language: How Bronze-Age Riders from the Eurasian Steppes Shaped the Modern World
Contours of the World Economy, 1-2030AD: Essays in Macro-Economic History
The History of Civilization in Europe
That Which Is Seen and That Which Is Not Seen
The History of England (Macaulay)
Liberty, Equality, Fraternity
The Theory of the Leisure Class
Carl Schmitt
The Faith of the Faithless: Experiments in Political Theology
The Portable Veblen
On Collective Memory
Technics and Civilization
The World of Yesterday
The Menace of the Herd: Or, Procrustes at Large
Bertrand De Jouvenel
The Human Condition
The Opium of the Intellectuals
The Anti-capitalistic Mentality
Past and Present (Carlyle)
The Common Law
Tocqueville
Seeing Islam as Others Saw It: A Survey and Evaluation of Christian, Jewish, and Zoroastrian Writings on Early Islam
Anarchy, State, and Utopia
Ecological Imperialism: The Biological Expansion of Europe, 900-1900
Our Political Nature: The Evolutionary Origins of What Divides Us
Quasi Rational Economics
Keeping Together in Time
War Before Civilization: The Myth of the Peaceful Savage
The Clash of Civilizations and the Remaking of World Order
The History of Government from the Earliest Times
The Wealth and Poverty of Nations: Why Some Are So Rich and Some So Poor
How Rich Countries Got Rich And Why Poor Countries Stay Poor
The Crowd And The Mob: From Plato To Canetti
Civilizations: Culture, Ambition, and the Transformation of Nature
The Mind and Society
The Great Leveler
Social Acceleration: A New Theory of Modernity
The Ascent of Money: A Financial History of the World
The Origin of Wealth: Evolution, Complexity, And the Radical Remaking of Economics
Less Than Human: Why We Demean, Enslave, and Exterminate Others
The Trouble with Africa: Why Foreign Aid Isn't Working
The Revolution Will Not Be Funded: Beyond the Non-Profit Industrial Complex
In Defence of War
On History (Hobsbawm)
Inventing the Individual: The Origins of Western Liberalism
Human Accomplishment: The Pursuit of Excellence in the Arts and Sciences, 800 B.C. to 1950
From Dawn to Decadence
The Agile Gene: How Nature Turns on Nurture
Behavioral Genetics
>Race and Sex Differences in Intelligence and Personality: A Tribute to Richard Lynn at 80
The Sociology of Philosophies: A Global Theory of Intellectual Change
Emergence: From Chaos To Order
Care Crosses the River

[Anonymous No.11387083]

>>11385665
Goonan- The Foundation for Exploration

[Anonymous No.11387110]

>>11385950
t. bourgie

[Anonymous No.11387121]

Lukács
Castoriadis

[Anonymous No.11388409]

>>11387121
yes this, too.

raymond williams

[Anonymous No.11389201]

this is a must read

[Anonymous No.11390256]

Also you should read Hacking's book The Social Construction of What, since authors tend to throw around the term ''Social Construction'' very liberally.

[Anonymous No.11390299]

>>11390256
meh... those debates are irrelevant to the scientific approach of the discipline. no one who actually knows what the expression 'social construction' means would use it lightly as it is used in common parlance. and no one who has something serious to do would bother to try to 'correct' that parlance, for the actual meaning of the expressions used there is irrelevant.

philosophy stopped being relevant as a stand alone discipline a long time ago, and incidentally that is when it began gaining popularity.

[Anonymous No.11390954]

>>11385868
I wish I could betray my country to get tenured

[Anonymous No.11392193]

McDonald's

[Anonymous No.11392210]

>>11385665
The Constitution of Society
giddens dude

[Anonymous No.11392441]

>>11385665
Imagined Communities

[Anonymous No.11392470]

>>11385883
>>11385950
>The guy was a spy, so he must be lying about everything
Absolutely retarded.

Also makes it seem you are afraid of being brainwashed by reading something. I hate fags who are afraid of reading Marx or The Bible or whatever in fear of being "converted".

Nigga like just use your reason, just counter check stuff.

Instead of "examining his scholarship" until he inspires you confidence, just read him.

[Anonymous No.11392480]

>>11389201
this looks like a great children's book

[Anonymous No.11392523]

>>11392480
lol that was my reaction too when i saw that edition.

here, have the serious one.

book is a mind-blown anyhow.

[Anonymous No.11392527]

>>11385671
Literally the Rick and Morty of public figures

[Anonymous No.11392530]

Back to the Greeks

[Anonymous No.11392536]

Is /lit/ a low-key sociology board?

[Anonymous No.11393314]

>>11392536
Probably the best place for it t b h

[Anonymous No.11393363]

>Sociology

[Anonymous No.11393368]

>>11392536
>>11393314
Fuck off both of you, seriously. Cancerous chucklefucks worse than /pol/ and don't even know it

[Anonymous No.11393376]

>>11393368
SEETHING!

[Anonymous No.11393382]

>>11393376
>here's some cherry picked statistics to prove my already held opinions are right
t. All of sociology

[Anonymous No.11393705]

>>11393368
There's nothing wrong with sociology. at least, not all of it.

[Anonymous No.11393871]

>>11392470
>just read him
No thanks, I've never found sociologists to be very insightful, or sociology as a disciple at all useful. That being said, I would like to read more about Zig Baumann. A biography of his spooky James Bond life would be fascinating I'm sure. His Wikipedia page is interesting enough.

[Anonymous No.11394586]

https://discord.gg/pbQcPz

[Anonymous No.11394593]

>>11394586
>>>/soc/

[Anonymous No.11394595]

>>11394586
where is the sociology room

[Anonymous No.11394602]

>>11394586
there are two dudes on dischord at my work all the time, one is a chinese accountant, and the other is a redpilled gamer who dude who always flirts with girls but can't close the deal and get laid, neither are big endorsements of what is essentially a watered down irc with profile pics

[Anonymous No.11394605]

>>11394595
if there's enough demand we can make one

[Anonymous No.11394640]

>>11394635
Discord posters are some of the dumbest posters I've seen here lately.

[Anonymous No.11394647]

>>11394586 #
>>11394595 #
>sociology
>discord

We're hitting peak fucking retards here

[Anonymous No.11394654]

>>11394640
Of course they're literally pic related. Dumb people who get blown too hard so they run off to hide in their dumb people club. Find some scapegoat for how they always embarrass themselves like /pol/
I don't know why they don't just fuck off to reddit and get it over with

[Anonymous No.11394700]

>>11393871
>No thanks, I've never found sociologists to be very insightful, or sociology as a disciple at all useful.
It's not meant to be insightful. Is biology insightful ? Linguistics ? This isn't meant to distract you with profound sentences, which passes of as a marker of truth here.
In the same way, a science seeks the truth, it's indifferent to your use of it. Certainly as a (very soft) science, with an object as fundamental as human societies as structured determinations made of interacting groups, it's very useful for many.

[Anonymous No.11394732]

>>11394700
Imagine actually believing sociology seeks truth. They're the literal definition of sophists. They're a band of gallant lunatics enshrined with nothing but shilling the argument they entered with.
You realize its literally disallowed in sociology courses to cite papers not written by other sociologists. Think about that for ten seconds

[Anonymous No.11394738]

McDonalds

I'll have some extra fries thanks.

[Anonymous No.11394759]

Bourdieu is all you need.

[Anonymous No.11394783]

Reminder Durkheim was a filthy hebey kike too

[Anonymous No.11394792]

>sociology
you mean collectivism?

[Anonymous No.11395484]

NORBERT ELIAS.

Go check him NOW if you dont know the name, go read him NOW if you havent.

[Anonymous No.11395518]

>>11394732
no it's not.

[Anonymous No.11395528]

Economics >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sociology

Pareto is the best of both worlds tbqh tho.