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11307420 No.11307420 [Reply] [Original]

Why exactly is this considered "unfilmable"?

>> No.11307427

>>11307420
the babbys heads getting smashed would trigger the feminists

>> No.11307434

>>11307427
No it wouldn't, feminists love killing babies. It's a symbolic release from the bondage of men.

>> No.11307438

>>11307434
they only love killing babbys while the babby is inside them, because they've convinced themselves the babby is not a person yet. once the babby is out, i do not believe they wish to kill the babby

>> No.11307443

Because noboy filmed it yet.

>> No.11307451

Because its meant to be heard not seen. Visuals would always let you down. He could describe something as being biblical or autistic and you would only see like an injin on a horse or whatever

>> No.11307454

>>11307438
I tak eit you haven't heard about post birth abortion?

>> No.11307457

>>11307420
Violence and budget. They could make it really violent but then they'd have no budget and the film would look like made for TV garbage and it couldn't be released in many theaters. They could tone down the violence but then it wouldn't be Blood Meridian and would probably be shit. Also it's too long.

If Ridley Scott, Tommy Lee Jones, and the Coen brothers couldn't get it made after all this time it can't be made.

>> No.11307460

>>11307438
Don't fool yourself, if they can ever get around to bamboozling people with perverse rationale into legalizing post-partum "abortion," they will go full speed ahead. Women are miserable, spiteful creatures.

>> No.11307464

>>11307460
i mean is killing an infant really worse than killing a pig or something, its not even really a person

>> No.11307468

>>11307420
It's not, there just isn't any incentive. First, the story by itself will not be understood by the masses as anything other than a gore fest (if not, it's unlikely to resemble anything like McCarthy's BM), nor is there anyone even nearly able to portray the Judge–the key to the story of BM, and an impossible character himself. Tom Hardy is the closest, but still a far cry. In short, the film would never be a success

>> No.11307481

>>11307468
obviously daniel day lewis will play him after spending 3 years inhabiting the role

>> No.11307487
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>>11307468
tom hardy would be an abysmal judge

but at the same time i cant think of anyone better

>> No.11307512

>>11307468
>>11307487
Bruce Campbell might be able to do it but he'd need to radically alter his accent

>> No.11307527
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>>11307464
They already got you in their hooks, m8. If only someone would post-partum abort you.

>> No.11307530

>>11307527
>. If only someone would post-partum abort you.
if only indeed. fuck i am miserable

>> No.11307535

>>11307420
in the past, too gorey. Now it would either be too racist or too costly

>> No.11307553

waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much shit occurs over the course of the narrative
they could capture maybe a few chapters in detail but then it'd still be way too long to hold normie attention if done properly, and it would be a half ass tribute unable to capture any of the allegory of the complete book
stretching it out to 10 episodes would be way too long
i don't know, maybe 3 to 5 hour-ish episodes would capture it but it would have to be done really REALLY well

>> No.11307556
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>>11307468
JK Simmons?

>> No.11307566

>>11307556
way too gimmicky. he'd turn judge's monologues into seemingly goofy jargon that you couldn't help but laugh at

>> No.11307591

>>11307530
Suicide by police is always an option if you don't want to pull the trigger yourself

>> No.11307594

>>11307468
John Goodman

>> No.11307599
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>>11307594
oh wow..... it ... could .... work

>> No.11307616

>>11307591
sounds far more unpleasant than taking a bunch of heroin or something. why do you want me to die anyway you dick

>> No.11307619

>>11307420
I don't know why people don't consider animation for shit like this more. It would solve all the problems of filming, other than you'd still need a sizeable budget and a studio willing to lose money on an arthouse project.

>> No.11307624

>>11307420
ah, blood meridian, monsieur? that novel is the sark and chaparral of literature, the filament whereon rode the remuda of highbrow, corraled out of some destitute hacienda upon the arroya, quirting and splurting with main and with pyrolatrous coagulate of lobated grandiloquence. our eyes rode over the pages, monsieur, of that slatribed azotea like argonauts of suttee, juzgados of swole, bights and systoles of walleyed and tyrolean and carbolic and tectite and scurvid and querent and creosote and scapular malpais and shellalagh. we scalped, monsieur, the gantlet of its esker and led our naked bodies into the rebozos of its mennonite and siliceous fauna, wallowing in the jasper and the carnelian like archimandrites, teamsters, combers of cassinette scoria, centroids of holothurian chancre, with pizzles of enfiladed indigo panic grass in the saltbush of our vigas, true commodores of the written page, rebuses, monsieur, we were the mygale spiders too and the devonian and debouched pulque that settled on the frizzen studebakers, listening the wolves howling in the desert while we saw the judge rise out of a thicket of corbelled arches, whinstone, cairn, cholla, lemurs, femurs, leantos, moonblanched nacre, uncottered fistulas of groaning osnaburg and kelp, isomers of fluepipe and halms awap of griddle, guisado, pelancillo.

>> No.11307640

>>11307594
>>11307599
Not bad, but I think too old now. Also Goodmans voice isn't that great of a fit I don't think

>> No.11307645

>>11307420
Because its effect comes not from the things being depicted but from the language used to depict them.

>> No.11307757

>>11307457
why would the coen brothers couldnt do it?

>> No.11307890

>>11307616
I want you to fulfill your dreams, anon. Besides all you gotta do is charge an officer with a bat or a tire iron or something and you won't even realize what happened next, it will be so fast. We believe in you

>> No.11307914

>>11307420
ive never read mccarthy before
should i start with this one?

>> No.11308011

>>11307616
Why do you think killing an infant is the equivalent of killing a pig you dick

>> No.11308093

>>11307914
I wouldn't recommend it. Start with the Border Trilogy and work your way to BM.

>> No.11308101

>>11307914
idiots will tell you no, but there's no reason not to.

>> No.11308110

>>11307420
not unfilmable but more like "you cant make a hollywood disney movie outta this"

>> No.11308138

I don't necessarily think it's anymore unfilmable than Lolita. Just depends on what you want from the adaption.
As many people here have said a lot of the beauty of the book comes from the prose. Which is the same for Lolita, which is known for its prose. Lolita pretty much can't truly be adapted because prose is can't be filmed. Same with Blood Meridian.
So I think it could be filmed, it just wouldn't capture everything that makes it art

>> No.11309869

>Horrific violence would make it an R & very limited release
>Majority of the book consists of landscapes of descriptions which would require +4 hours of film
>Plot is minimal, there's no good guy, there's no happy ending.
It is filmable but it isn't in anyway going to return its budget.

>> No.11309871

I'm starting this book today because you guys constantly shill it. Considering all the other trash this board likes, I have low expectations.

>> No.11309932

>>11309871
enjoy, it's actually pretty good

>> No.11309943

>>11309871
im jealous,wish i could read it over again for the first time. arguably the greatest work of modern american fiction

>> No.11309985

>>11309932
>>11309943
Yep, pre-ordered it and picking it up after work.

How do I start conversations with qts in the bookstore? Do girls think it's weird if you just start randomly talking to them?

>> No.11309997

>>11309985
>How do I start conversations with qts in the bookstore?
You don’t.

>Do girls think it's weird if you just start randomly talking to them?
Yes.

We are born to suffer, Anon.

>> No.11310006

>>11307420
After a certain point gore has diminishing returns.

>> No.11310009

>>11309985
In order to start a conversation, pick up 2 books. 1 is Kama Sutra, the other book anything you desire. Approach the QT and ask if she has any thoughts on the other book you actually desire. Then, while speaking about said book, "accidentally" drop Kama Sutra. This naturally changes the conversation. Talk about how you are interested in developing a more spiritual and intense sexual experience. Ask if she has this desire as well.

Works for me about 1/10 times

>> No.11310015

>>11307420
I think it could potentially work, if done correctly, on a 1 time HBO 8-10 episode season

>> No.11310028
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11310028

>>11310009

So basically pull the "whoops I dropped my monster condom for my magnum dong" strategy?
I think you might be on to something here.

>> No.11310029

>>11310015
>HBO
God, no.

>> No.11310588

>>11307487
>>11307468
john malkovitch could do it. a different take but i would be fascinated to see malkovitch be portrayed as physically imposing like that

>> No.11310609

>>11307420
Because the primary merit of the work is in the prose, literally. Not in the visuals, but in the specific was that a given visual is suggested. Film works entirely differently. The medium of film is object and image, the medium of literature is prose. Both share common modes like dialogue, but that’s outside the point. Read the jerk-lipped passage again and think about how on earth you could do nothing but show somebody a bunch of crazy Indians dressed in stolen clothes riding over a hill, and still manage what the words manage alone. It can’t be done without abstracting the prose, which is stupid because we have the prose already.

>> No.11310642

>>11307468
The Rock should play The Judge.

>> No.11310647

>>11307468
Ron perlman

>> No.11312201

>>11309869
>there's no good guy, there's no happy ending

Same as no country for old men

>> No.11312234

>>11307556
wow jk simmons would be perfect

>> No.11312349

>>11307420
It shouldn't be.

I've fantasized about an adaptation of Blood Meridian that like Heart of Darkness is moved to a different war. It should be set in eastern europe during WWII and rather than the Glanton Gang it follows the Dirlewanger brigade. It would fit so well.

>> No.11312364

>>11307454
>Smothering my four year old child is a human right.

>> No.11312431

>>11312349
Terrible fucking idea.
Losing that wasteland atmosphere and characters like the Judge for another muh evil nazis movie

>> No.11312448

>>11309985
I've had conversations with this one girl at my bookstore
But she's not very qt and is like 40. She has decent taste and is nice tho

>> No.11312449

I dont think it would work unless there's a narrator

>> No.11312461

>>11312349
ngl that might be the move. other than that maybe yugoslavia during the civil war? maybe some african warlord conflict?

>> No.11312759

>>11307420
>unfilmable
I hope that's true. if James Franco puts his grubby little hands on this and turns blood meridian into a movie, I'm going to be angry.

>> No.11312766

There's no such thing as unfilmable. Books and films are fundamentally different mediums, but you can always figure out how to address the same topics.

Watch Synecdoche, New York. It isn't based on a book, but it's as close to a novel as a movie can get.

>> No.11312793

Is this book worth reading or should I just listen to it on audiobook before I fall asleep so that I comprehend like 70% of the story?

>> No.11312811

>>11312793
I've done both, you have to read it but hearing the prose spoken aloud is mad comfy

>> No.11312829

>>11308011
I’m not the guy you’re responding to but i doubt a newborn infant would be conscious enough to realize what’s happening, whereas a pig would probably know enough to be afraid. I’m not saying it’s ok to kill infants (it tends to upset lots of people) but it’s not as bad as killing a fully conscious being. I’m not even sure if I believe what I’m saying or if I’m just being provocative but I already filled out the captcha so here goes

>> No.11312855

>>11308011
Pigs are about as intelligent as 3 year old children.

There was actually a Gordon Ramsay documentary here in the UK where he raised pigs for slaughter. Everyday they would come to meet him in the morning all happy and ready to be fed, then on the day of the slaughter they all stayed in their little indoor area, they could sense the anxiety in the air. It was really tough for him but he eventually sent them off for slaughter, the cunt.

Pigs are really smart my dood.

>> No.11313565

>>11307757
Same reason as Scott and Jones, it was too violent. If they kept even half of the violence from the book they wouldn't be able to release the film in 99% of theaters.

>> No.11313644

>>11307454
what

>> No.11313654

>>11307454
>post birth abortion
the

>> No.11313663

>>11307454
>post birth abortion
fuck?

>> No.11313791

>>11307454
the intentional typo really makes this desu

>> No.11313842

>>11307481
don't tease me

>> No.11313860

>>11307420
By whom? Reading it was like watching a movie. McCarthy doesn't understand the point of prose fiction.

>> No.11313875

Unless they use a narrator gimmick you miss out on the prose which is like the point of literature. It could be cool on its own but it would be an almost entirely different work of art.

>> No.11313958

>>11307624
underrated

>> No.11314149

>>11307624
this post hurts my head