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11297530 No.11297530 [Reply] [Original]

has anyone ever even actually read the bible before they started talking about it

>> No.11297542

Charging interest on loans is transhumanism. With a few steps in between but you get the gist.

>> No.11297548

>>11297530
im a fedora and i think the tweet is very ignorant shouldnt you just say the old testament instead of 'the bible'

>> No.11297568

Atheist here
This guy’s a fag
Nonbelievers shouldn’t lecture believers on what the book says just to shame them.

>> No.11297575

>>11297530
honestly those are all things to be avoided

>> No.11297590

>>11297542
Shaddup schlomo. You foreskin eating kike

>> No.11297592

>>11297530
Me.
>Jesus made a compromise. You can be gay, just no butt sex, ever.
Big deal.

>>11297568
Simple atheist Hillary voter, oh dear.

He is a fag though. Implying interest and land selling are good things

>> No.11297682

>>11297530
Based bible prevents jewing people with loans? Could someone please point to me the proverb? That is so based

>> No.11297695

>>11297682
Your ignorance and choice of words is so amusing to me. The rule regarding usury's end result was the holocaust.

>> No.11297712

>Charging interest on loans

This right here is largely why Jews got the upper hand when it came to controlling banking and finances in Europe during the Middle Ages. Christians could not practice usury, Jews had no problem doing so.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Court_Jew

>> No.11297714

>>11297695
(and that's a good thing)

>> No.11297717

>>11297695
This. The Catholic Church must be careful not to indulge any anti-Semitic notions from now on...

>> No.11297718

>>11297714
Thinking of things in terms of the good/bad dynamic is limiting to your understanding of the human condition.

cause/effect is a better lens

>> No.11297722

>>11297695
>The rule regarding usury's end result was the holocaust.
I don't see a problem here

>> No.11297727

>>11297717
This shit is so damn transparent, like you're not some screaming ape who is copying the same joke over and over again. I know you'll dismiss me, just want you to know that I think you're fucking delusional.

>> No.11297729

>>11297592
Nah there’s nothing wrong with interest, it’s how banks make a profit on loans. Otherwise why would they even give them out?
Also
>shouldn’t be able to sell land
>shouldn’t be able to own land
Nah, go away commie.

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>>11297722
That's because you lack insight, and are searching for a problem. I was remarking upon the irony of referring to the commandment against usury as "preventing jewing"

>> No.11297738

I don't do any of those things, does that mean I get a free pass to hate gays?

>> No.11297743

>>11297729
>Banks
>Profit
HAHAHA
>But muh Jewish conspiracy.
>Go away commie
Naw, read Proudhon and Stirner, dimbulb.

>> No.11297747

>>11297743
>he doesn’t understand how interest works
Brainlet tripfag

>> No.11297752

>>11297592
You're not gay. We just determined in the other thread you want dick.

You are absolutely obsessed with sexuality too. No use hiding it.

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>>11297747
I understand it all too well, my little dim bulb

>> No.11297757

>>11297530
Literalists are brainlets

>> No.11297762

>>11297752
I'm not gay, I'm homosexual.
You are the ones who bring it up all the time.
I don't even jump at every "Jezebel post" that's made.

>> No.11297773

>>11297762
Just trying to save you from hell tbqh. No need to parade around like you don't fucking want sex with the other gender. I know of very little people that cannot be converted in some way.

For instance, just thinking about a woman that was in a relationship with a woman, I could flirt with her, make her laugh, etc etc. This woman wanted me, I could tell.

But sure, you don't want penis. We will see about that butterfly. It is in your DNA

>> No.11297774

>>11297695
>The rule regarding usury's end result was the holocaust.

This unironically, and I'm not even a stormfag

>> No.11297775

>>11297530
I've read the Bible more than once, some of the books over and over again (Genesis, 1/2 Samuel, Job, the Psalms, the Gospels) but I rarely speak of it.

>> No.11297780

>>11297774
well, actually, it didn't start there, usury was just a stepping stone in a very long chain of events.

>> No.11297787

>>11297682
Interest on loans is forbidden in every major religion

>> No.11297795

>>11297734
There's nothing ironic about it.

>> No.11297798

>>11297780
Yes I suppose -- but the "Jews heavily influence the governments/banks/entertainment industry/universities" narrative, which is based to some degree on truth, was only made possibly by usury as far as I see it.

>> No.11297802

>>11297798
That is objectively correct.

Note that not ALL of the elite families are Jewish, but the majority are, because of the mobile financial capital profits garnered from the financial industry throughout the years.

>> No.11297804

>>11297530
A hypocritical liberal uses whataboutism to counter religious homophobia. What's new? Also, not /lit/.

>> No.11297819

>>11297695
>The rule regarding usury's end result was the holocaust.
Based

>> No.11297844

>>11297773
Lust. A deadly sin of which you are guilty.

>> No.11297845

So is the libby complaining about the secularization of society, the separation of church and state? Which is not to say on the social level that people can or can not adhere to doctrines, but that such a thing is no longer compelled, hence a bank can or can not be "Christian" lets say, but the bank/owner is not compelled in their decision.

>> No.11297852

>>11297568
Take that sentence and exchange the word "believer" with "nonbeliever". Tada

>> No.11297856

>>11297844
Lust is wrong, it's true. It's a battle I'm in every day, but overall I win.

Doesn't stop the fact that that woman most likely wants dick.

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>>11297530
>googles "bad verses in the bible" once

Usury is still condemned while the rest are just wierd traditions that the Jews invented that we got rid of.

>> No.11297964

>>11297530
Usury should be forbidden. Why does he say selling land is forbidden? I don't remember that part of the bible, though since Christianity is anti-capitalist (which is a good thing) I wouldn't be surprised to learn there is a verse about that.

>> No.11298026

>>11297530
Wow. It's been a while since I've seen someone fuck up Messianic vs universal law.

>> No.11298030

>>11297530
Presumably people who translated it

>> No.11298033

>>11297530
>Same book of The Bible
I like how these people pretend that condemnation of homosexuality only happens in the Old Testament so they think they can call it messianic law even though that's obviously not true

>> No.11298036

>>11297856
Lust in thought is still a sin.

>> No.11298045

>>11297964
It's probably a specific verse about a certain guy who was promised by God something about the land and someone just took a line out of context. It's common amongst liberals that believe every sentence in The Bible is its a bullet point in a list of instructions.

>>11298036
If he wouldn't have sex with her given the honest change, it's not really lust, which it doesn't sound like he would.

>> No.11298231

I thought this was only in the Quran. Interesting to see this here too.

>> No.11298360

>>11297773
I don't thunk you know the difference between being amiable and wanting the d

>> No.11298365

>>11297542
>Charging interest on loans is transhumanism.
We'll morph together with the jews and become a unified AI?

>> No.11298531

>>11297568
Why not? Many nonbelievers study the bible to be able to refute believers who can't bother to read it at all. It doesn't matter if you believe in God or not because if you know the bible or any other book, you should correct anyone who states a wrong fact about it

>> No.11298537

>>11297964
>though since Christianity is anti-capitalist (which is a good thing)
Anyone else find the way trad LARPers have to remind everyone else that they're trve trad LARPers everytime they write something very funny?

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>>11297530
>You're just a bigot.
Okay so?
This law that basically says that you can't serve someone due to their sexuality or race is akin to saying you can't serve someone because they don't have enough money. If I were a business owner, I should have the right to not serve whoever I damn well please, and if I say that the religion I believe in, based on my interpretation, states that I can't serve or converse with someone for some reason, then the state better allow me to do so. Even if my religious beliefs aren't a factor, what's to stop me from saying I converted on the spot?
These armchair communists need to get off their high horse and realize that being different may cause people to treat you different, as that is just the nature of man. Normalizing certain culture isn't going to happen, unless the masses decide to change their personal beliefs on a whim to appease that culture.

>> No.11298679

>>11297530
The old law has been fulfilled. We don't have to do the old weird jew shit anymore.

>> No.11298682

No one has read Acts 15 I see

>> No.11299407

>>11297695
based

>> No.11299411

>A Protestant reading of the Bible separates people from Christ again.
I'm not surprised.

>> No.11299981

>>11299411
Protestants like separating food from seasoning as well.

>> No.11300026

>>11297575

yeah not bad really

>> No.11300137
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11300137

Hi Christians

I have a serious question and am not trying to troll

The catechism of the Catholic church clearly describes homosexual intercourse as a gravely disordered behavior etc.

But similar language is uses for masturbation, fornication, and so on. Similarly it's considered a horrific practice to abort a child with downs syndrome, for example.

My question is why do many Christians fixate on the issue of homosexuality in comparison to these other sins?

There doesn't seem from my perspective to be a lot of Christians extremely closely attaining the moral goals of their religion condemning homosexuality

Instead I basically seem to see people who have immense problems in their own lives but are willing to castigate others ruthlessly for probably one of the few sins they don't commit, maybe because they simply lack the temptation

Why?

>> No.11300158

>>11297530
>you can buy land but not sell it
Fucking Israel...

>> No.11300161

>>11298030
kek

>> No.11300168

>>11300137
because they lost all of these other fights.

>> No.11300216

>>11298531
The problem is that a lot of them don't 'study' the Bible and certainly don't read any material published by actual biblical scholars. In actuality when you're getting lectured by an atheist about what the Bible says it's a good bet they just googled "dumb bible verses" and are spewing out out of context stuff that was collated on some atheist site meant to provide debate ammunition and not actual understanding.

So with that in mind OP's pic is wrong because the arguments about how homosexuality is a sin derive from the New Testament, not the Old. All of that other stuff he pulled is from Leviticus, which Christians don't follow, it got replaced with the new covenant that was created with Christs blood. However there are several verses in the NT which condemn Homosexuality, so therefore Christians must obey that. The verse in Leviticus about how it's an abomination for a man to lie with another man is generally not what Christians use to justify being anti-homosexual but verses like 1 Corinthians 6

>Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

So there is nothing hypocritical about being anti-homosexuality while not following the laws of Leviticus at all, and it's one of those misunderstandings you get when people are just skimming the Bible to try and score points rather than achieve an understanding of the material Christians use to inform their beliefs.

>> No.11300268

>>11300216
>it got replaced with the new covenant that was created with Christs blood

Fuck I hate those retcons.

>> No.11300271

>>11300137
>My question is why do many Christians fixate on the issue of homosexuality in comparison to these other sins?
Mostly because it's an issue that the Church and modern society have greatly split views on. It's worth noting that while the catechism says that homosexuality is a sin, it also says that Christians are not to in any way be prejudiced against homosexuals.

>The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God's will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord's Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.

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>>11297773
>Just trying to save you from hell tbqh

you have received and accepted (or imagined) the notion of a realm of eternal immortal torture and alienation from God.

and you have received and accepted (or imagined) the notion that you have been charged with saving other people from this place.

What are your thoughts on this matter?

>> No.11300330

>>11300306
I'm fine with it.

I have been on this board for years now and have been privy to witnessing a generous transformation of thought. The idea that the power from the individual comes from within oneself, the idea that alphas can browse 4chan (unlike you, a smirking atheist loser).

I have a girlfriend now. And I didn't before I found God. God is real, and his existence makes your beta bullshit tremble at the thought of him. This whole board has gone through a religious transformation. None of this was like this 3 or 4 years ago. I have witnessed the coming of a new age in real life and on this board, and I can safely say I can die happy.

Now stop defending lesbianism just because this stupid cunt is a woman. I can see straight through your transparent mentality and I'm sick of it. We killed your kind about a year ago.

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>>11297773
>I could flirt with her, make her laugh, etc etc. This woman wanted me, I could tell.

>> No.11300352

>>11300330
this board has been vaguely religions for years

>> No.11300394

>>11300352
That's what I said. I would mark the transformation as beginning 3 or 4 years ago, though.

>> No.11300399

>>11300330
>I have a girlfriend now. And I didn't before I found God.
wtf I'm Christian now

>> No.11300403

>>11300399
I mean, God is real.

You are closer to the truth if you believe in the Quran though.

>> No.11300739

>>11300330
No offense but most people don't need religion to get a girlfriend

>> No.11300798

>>11297530
ive never charged anyone interest, i have a beard, ive never sold land, i dont eat shellfish (allergic), and i only buy 100% cotton clothes.

whats this faggots point?

>> No.11300906

>>11298682
This, thank you based anon

>> No.11300949

>>11297530
all of those things are good, the bible is full of good ideas.

>> No.11301070

>>11297729
>he doesn't know about islamic banking

>> No.11301105

>>11297762
Kill yourself retard

>> No.11301249

>>11297695
Your supreme Jewish arrogance actually made you type this to make someone feel bad. That is so interesting.

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>>11300137
Because they're shitty Christians who pick and choose what parts of the religion to follow. Don't pay attention to what they say, seek out the genuine Christians instead.

>> No.11301570

best bible version for a first timer?

>> No.11301576

>>11301570
Oxford annotated

>> No.11301586

>>11301576
thanks a lot, seems there are a few versions.
this?
https://www.amazon.co.uk/New-Oxford-Annotated-Bible-Apocrypha/dp/019027607X/

>> No.11301751

>>11301570
Douay-Rheims for Catholic

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>>11297695
Pretty much as based as you can get

>> No.11302818

>>11301751
My man

>> No.11302994

>>11297773
>I know of very little people that cannot be converted in some way.
We're all waiting for that big breakthrough that will make gay conversion therapy viable for dwarves.