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[Anonymous No.11296407]

>Oh anon, could you explain Moldbug's theory about the Cathedral to me one more time sweetie??? :)

[Anonymous No.11296412]

>>11296407
It's retarded shit for people with nothing better to complain about

[Anonymous No.11296430]

>>11296407
Sure, toots. It's really "the Synagogue" but the guy who forwarded the idea was a jew and you know about the little subversive tricks they pull to force attention elsewhere.

[Anonymous No.11296457]

>>11296407
No sorry, the doctor tells me you aren't real. I hope you understand.

[Anonymous No.11298046]

>>11296407
Source?

[Anonymous No.11298061]

>>11296407

Only if you read that passage by Hawking about multiverses to me again babe.

[Anonymous No.11298162]

It's his excuse as to why no one in academia takes him seriously and he's stuck talking to midwits on the internet.

[Anonymous No.11298315]

>blink
>there's nothing but a pillow

[Anonymous No.11299204]

>>11298315
tpbp
>good morning, world..

[Anonymous No.11299525]

>>11296407
There's people on this board who unironically think reading is impressive to women

[Anonymous No.11299559]

>>11296430
>the guy who forwarded the idea was a jew
Really?

[Anonymous No.11299568]

>>11296407
Don't tempt me during Ramadan, filthy frankish thot.

[Anonymous No.11299567]

What actually is the Cathedral? People who want to stop the acceleration of capitalism?

[Anonymous No.11299816]

>>11299525
I read lots, have had a gf or two, and can vouch that it's not. Being thoughtful, helpful, polite, and genuinely interested seems to be what [they] appreciate most..

[Anonymous No.11299859]

I like how Moldbug was a Rhodesiaboo before it was cool.

[Anonymous No.11299862]

Aimer une femme intelligente est un plaisir de pédéraste.

Do you guys really need to talk to girls about the shit you're reading? Weird and haram

[Anonymous No.11299888]

>>11296412
>philosophy in a nut's shell

[Anonymous No.11300005]

>>11299862
Why de pédéraste in particular?

[Anonymous No.11300089]

>>11298315

[Anonymous No.11300100]

>>11299888
Dark Enlightenment faggotry isn't philosophy.

[Anonymous No.11300111]

>>11300100
You're just saying that because it's more famous than regular phil.

[Anonymous No.11300120]

>>11300111
I'm saying it mostly because the majority of it is word salad.

[Anonymous No.11300141]

>>11300120
That's why it's so famous. People are into vegetarian thought these days.

[Anonymous No.11300550]

>>11300120
lol

[Anonymous No.11300553]

>>11300550
god this is so fucking embarrassing i cant look away haha

[Anonymous No.11300556]

>>11296407
it's basically fedora-tier libertarianism that pretends to be intellectual

[Anonymous No.11300600]

>>11296412
Tell that to the girls in Rotherham

[Anonymous No.11300615]

BAPbook epub where

[Anonymous No.11300625]

I've often scoffed at the complaining of Jezebel posting, but now, truly, I understand. No women allowed in the library!

[Anonymous No.11300653]

>>11296407
Sure babe I'll love you

[Anonymous No.11300668]

>>11300550
>>11300553
mccrumps is cool

[Anonymous No.11300715]

>>11300668
I wrote about incels, the social production of desire, the hermeneutics of the Elliot Rodger manifesto, primitive accumulation, the erotic landscape of SoCal, celebrity breakdowns, and fascist terror in @jacobitemag

[Anonymous No.11300824]

>>11299816
what complete nonsense, they literally like you more the more you hit them and cheat on them. try it for yourself

[Anonymous No.11300848]

>>11299567
Nah, it's basically just midwit marxism for the Right. Similar to the ancap crypto-marxism that blames the state for everything, there are certain wings connected to the state which corrupt its influence.
It's basically just the Spectacle and neoreactionaries figure if this were centralised by the state things would be all good.

[Anonymous No.11300857]

>>11299816
>[they]
I'd rather stay single

[Anonymous No.11300874]

>>11300848
That's not really what the Cathedral idea is, there are actually two separate ideas that Moldbug doesn't bring together very coherently. One is Leftism as religion, which seems to me fairly well founded and actually obvious. The promises of utopic equality, the original sin of racism, etc. The other is Leftism as a process of civilizational decay, of Leftists being disorder and chaos obscuring normal hierarchies and creating vast bureaucracies with no accountability.

These two ideas are clearly not the same thing(in the political idea hierarchies are maintained but obscured and diluted) and the relation between them is rather tenuous. Which causes which? Are they in some causal tangle, what is the overlap between group A and B. I guess what he does is say that the entire thing is a kind of virus, and both its religious and machiavellian qualities are adaptive attributes, they exist 'just because' or whatever.

Moldbug never sits down and just brings everything together, his essays are always sprawling tangents on a few related ideas, he doesn't organize anything.

[Anonymous No.11300915]

>>11300874
The connection is pretty clear. Leftism is a religion and it does what religions do, adapts and grows, it's just that the Universalist religion has terrible consequences for society. It doesn't respect other institutions as necessities for society, it either subordinates them for its own power or destroys them. Moldbug often uses a cancer analogy, with Universalism combining the runaway growth of an unrestricted bureaucracy with the apocalyptic urgency of the decapitated Christianity that unleashes it.

[Anonymous No.11300931]

>>11300915
Yeah but the kind of Leftist who truly believes in equality is not the same as one like Alinsky. Truly believing in equality necessarily handicaps you since it is such a ludicrous idea.

[Anonymous No.11300939]

>>11296407
checking dubs
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[Anonymous No.11300974]

>>11300931
That's the entire point of the structural excuses and the Lewontin fallacy, they're buttresses against the fact of inequality that actually strengthen their resolve, they turn into evidence that their utopian world can and should be achieved, and with that load lifted some extremely smart people can function quite well believing in it.

[Anonymous No.11301001]

>>11300874
>leftism is religion
Do right wing "thinkers" still cling to this old meme? Sad!

[Anonymous No.11301013]

>>11301001
Quite so, quite so, my fellow non-religious human rights thinker. When will they open themselves to the light of progress and join with us to create an equal world full of hate? It's like they want to be on the wrong side of history!

[Anonymous No.11301023]

>>11301001
They behave very much like religious people. Stuff like antiracism is held as a religious tenet, you aren't supposed to even consider it as a question. The promise of equality is very obviously the idea of heaven transposed into this world. It is an impossible and ludicrous idea, completely incoherent, that people fervently cling to. They gather in groups and chant phrases over and over, they excommunicate anyone who argues against them, they think of HItler type figures as the incarnation of evil, Satan.

It is really very clear. The links between Christianity, Judaism, and Leftism are also easy to see

[Anonymous No.11301048]

>>11301001
Modern jewish liberalism is a secular version of jewish Christianity, why do you think the tube-mediated transition after centuries of entrenched Christianity in the west was so smooth for the boomers? Because it had all the same principles. It very much is a new religion and was instituted by the same people who instituted the previous one.

[Anonymous No.11301231]

>>11296412
isn't this basically everything to do with the political Left in the last 50 years?

[Anonymous No.11301245]

>>11301001
everything I don't like is deeply irrational my dude, especially my political opponents
;)

[Anonymous No.11301369]

>>11301013
lol holy shit owned

[Anonymous No.11301373]

>>11301245
>my dude
die

[Anonymous No.11301629]

>>11300857
It's the better policy, i.e. if one wants to do anything at all.

[Anonymous No.11301632]

>>11300824
Some, yeah. But not all.

[Anonymous No.11301639]

>>11300005
The implication is that smart women are like little boys rather than little girls.

[Anonymous No.11301654]

>>11300874
Do people who say that “leftism/Marxism/communism is a religion” also think that religions are inherently bad?

[Anonymous No.11301655]

>>11301231
Moldbug (what a hideous name) isn't a leftist, and the answer to your question is no.

[Anonymous No.11301670]

>>11301654
No, just that false ones are.

[Anonymous No.11301684]

>>11301373
>nitpicking expressions
unplug your brain from the internet for a second, you braindead zombie

[Anonymous No.11301804]

>>11299816
kill yourself desu

[Anonymous No.11301888]

>>11301654
Not necessarily.
https://unqualified-reservations.blogspot.com/2007/04/why-do-atheists-believe-in-religion.html
Moldbug's primarily concerned with seeing socially productive religions take power, i.e. religions that help the trains run on time.

[Anonymous No.11302149]

>>11300874
>leftism is an ideology
whoa...

[Anonymous No.11302175]

>>11296457
whoa.... I want more

[Anonymous No.11302579]

>>11301684
and yet saying “my dude” is a product of ur preformed internet composure. its meme-language. you're the zombie dipshit.