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11292783 No.11292783 [Reply] [Original]

I fucking hate words and their limitations, is this the guy for me? Where should I start?

>> No.11292790

He has like two books, just read them chronologically

>> No.11292793

>>11292783
with the greeks

>> No.11292796

>>11292790
Alright, seemed like he had a lot more work.

>>11292793
I already saw all the Crash Course videos on them!

>> No.11292804

>>11292783
as far as i know he only gives words more limitations sort of the modern kant

>> No.11292939

>>11292783
Tractatus > Blue & Brown books > Philisophical Investigations

>> No.11293091

>>11292783
Blue & Brown books are the best place to start IMO. Tractacus is gr8, but probably not what you're looking for and it's very different than his other work. I imagine people are recommending it because it's chronologically first, but it would be unfortunate if it turned you off Witty

>> No.11293114

>>11292783
don't start with Tractatus, as other folks have suggested. I'd recommend starting with On Certainty -> Blue & Brown -> Philosophical Investigations

>> No.11293133

>>11292796
>>11292939
Don't start with Tractatus. Witty thought nearly everyone got it wrong and even he changed his mind later in life. Do what >>11293114 says. Or just read PI, then follow into Goodman and Quine, since you seem interested on nominalism.

>> No.11293135

Not OP but I'd be interested in some good secondary literature on Wittgenstein as well. I've seen it come up before but there were a lot of "no, don't read that guy, he's got Witty all wrong" posts and I don't remember any specific recommendations. I get the feeling that no matter which book I read there's probably someone who thinks the author's full of shit, though.

>> No.11293156

>>11293133
>even he changed his mind later in life
doesn't really detract from the major points of the Tractatus, especially in regards to the field of Linguistics in general.

I get the point most people are making about starting with it, though, and maybe On Certainty or B&B would be better. In saying that, Tractatus is quite short and though (at times) jargony, it is very digestible and sets the grounds for his later revising of his ideas.

>>11293114
maybe do this, but do read Tractatus at some point. It's excellent.

>> No.11293158

>>11293135
David Pears on Wittgenstein is good. Blue and Brown is secondary also.

>> No.11293224

>>11293114
What this guy said.

>> No.11294938

>>11292783
>their limitations

you think you know them already, let alone actually go beyond them?

think again. protip: can't be done.