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[Anonymous No.11282263]

What strikes true fear in the heart of the average person in the current year?

[Anonymous No.11282268]

Truth

[Anonymous No.11282272]

Death

[Anonymous No.11282274]

>>11282263
Responsibility

[Anonymous No.11282276]

>>11282272
Are you kidding most millennials yearn for death

[Anonymous No.11282283]

>>11282263
virtue

>>11282274
fuck off Boomer

[Anonymous No.11282288]

>>11282283
>fuck off Boomer
What? It's true.

[Anonymous No.11282290]

>>11282276
Only ironically.

[Anonymous No.11282294]

>>11282263
Death. We banish death from our lives, our art, our music, our cities, we frown upon "gloominess", we trivialise it in our media by embedding it into entertainment or distance ourself from it through science fiction, we cope with it politically (look at the reactions to great tragedies where many people lose their lives), and even in funeral speeches we gloss over death, focusing on their life and drawing "inspiration" regarding life.
A hero in our culture is someone who survives. People who flee aversity to save their lives, or even just to live a better (i.e. more comfortable) life, are celebrated for their courage.
Now there are movements that dream of defeating death altogether, and try to sell us on the idea by dismissing any opposition as a "naturalistic fallacy" or by moralising in a way that is all too easy and all too effective in our culture that cannot and will not properly deal with death.

[Anonymous No.11282296]

>>11282276
They have no understanding of it.

[Anonymous No.11282305]

>>11282283
someone please explain this boomer meme to me
or is it another word that people on 4chan use when they can't think of anything else?

[Anonymous No.11282308]

>>11282305
>t.

[Anonymous No.11282311]

>>11282308
dumb wojak and an energy drink
I don't get it

[Anonymous No.11282326]

>>11282296

Then how can they fear it, blessed man, if they do not know whether it is good or bad?
Think before you write, instead of typing edgy-sounding short answers. Anonimity may conceal your face and background, not your stupidity.

[Anonymous No.11282327]

>>11282311
no anon, that is the Boomer wojak. You are being called a Boomer since not knowing about the Boomer meme is typical Boomer behavior

[Anonymous No.11282329]

>>11282327
sooo it's just a summer synonym for oldfag?

[Anonymous No.11282330]

>>11282294
>People who flee aversity to save their lives, or even just to live a better (i.e. more comfortable) life, are celebrated for their courage.
usually they're called cowards
it's the people who put themselves at the highest risk of death who are called courageous

[Anonymous No.11282331]

>>11282305

>that 17 year old boomer who doesn't know what a boomer is

[Anonymous No.11282338]

>>11282331
not everyone has knowyourmeme as their homepage like you anon

[Anonymous No.11282339]

>>11282329
nah, it's more from /pol/ and /biz/'s idea that Baby Boomers ruined the world and are the scum of the earth, being the most vapid, gratuitous, gluttonous, and moronic generation in human history. Therefore Boomer became the apex insult, but it has since mutated into a more versatile meme

[Anonymous No.11282343]

>>11282330
>usually they're called cowards
That was once upon a time.
Show me someone who publicly calls these young men who supposedly fled to us from Syria, where they left their families (and the current debate in Germany is whether or not we should bring their families here too), cowards; but there is no shortage of people praising them for their courage.

[Anonymous No.11282345]

>>11282339
right, makes sense but it's still just another word to shit up threads
>/pol/ origins
ah, that explains why it's not funny then

[Anonymous No.11282352]

>>11282338

Imagine taking not understanding memes this seriously

[Anonymous No.11282354]

>>11282294
>A hero in our culture is someone who survives.
Wrong
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8MbKF8YfiU
Watch that. That is the definition of heroism.

[Anonymous No.11282358]

The world changing and leaving 20th and 19th century ideological explanations in the dust seems to be causing great anxiety in the older generations. I think older people and boomers realize they are not going to be around much longer but are haunted by a voice screaming "it wasn't meant to be like this" in the back of their head. Trump is not the be all and end all of this phenomenon, but anyone in leftist circles or just observant will likely have noticed that the election of Trump seemed to just break something in the minds of a lot of people over 50, #theresistance/#bluewave are the democrat party analogs to the tea-party from a decade ago. Also, beyond politics, I find it rare to meet people in older generations who are willing to acknowledge issues that will impact younger generations, it is like their mental horizon has become their own unknown, but soon enough, death. They want to be at peace, feel like everything they did in life was for the best, that they managed to slay their demons and now it is time to live happily ever after, anything that challenges this is threatening and they freak out.

t. I work with too many olds

[Anonymous No.11282361]

>>11282352
This may surprise you but some people come on /lit/ because it's the last place to talk about books on the internet that isn't shit. Being a 4chan board is an unfortunate side effect and not everyone on here is also a meme-spouting /pol/ poster.

[Anonymous No.11282369]

>>11282358
good post

[Anonymous No.11282372]

>>11282326
That's the point. You say they yearn for it, but I say that is because they don't know what it is.
If they were confronted with it, as in The Death of Ivan Ilyich, they would soon realize. But to avoid this, we banish death or trivialise it.

I assume you mean things like this when you say millenials crave death:
https://youtu.be/zCn_8eJ8x6M
At any rate, that seems to be a marginal phenomenon. But tell me this was written by someone who has truly seen death. I don't think so.

[Anonymous No.11282382]

>>11282354
The police officer Arnaud Beltrame in France just recently performed a similar act of bravery, though perhaps not quite like Kolbe's. But that's not what I was thinking of (and where was the celebration of Beltrame? I heard a few conservative Christians talk about him, not a lot more).
See
>>11282343
and tell me if I'm wrong.

[Anonymous No.11282384]

>>11282358
>What do people fear
>Starts blabbering about US politics that has nothing to do with the topic

[Anonymous No.11282389]

>>11282263
Me

[Anonymous No.11282391]

>>11282382
>and tell me if I'm wrong.
Lots of people call them cowards and almost nobody calls them "heroes" except those on the extreme left. Why do you think Europe is swinging hard right? People generally accept that acts of heroism are ones where you put your own wellbeing at risk for another person. Running away from a war doesn't count.

[Anonymous No.11282393]

>>11282384
>he is too retarded to follow anything but I direct one sentence answer.

The listicles on buzzfeed are more your speed, go there.

[Anonymous No.11282394]

Internet not working

[Anonymous No.11282395]

>>11282263

being called a racist

[Anonymous No.11282399]

Missing out.

[Anonymous No.11282401]

>>11282263
The realisation that science and rationalism will get us nowhere but the Brave New World.

[Anonymous No.11282408]

>>11282399
this desu
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear_of_missing_out

[Anonymous No.11282415]

>>11282263
Sometimes I get this terrifyingly stark sensation of absolute being, I can't explain it without it sounding JRE-tier as fuck, but I compare it to feeling bedrock of consciousness. Like I feel that *I* am am this weirdly horizontal awareness, I actually start feeling trapped inside existence, and I switch between losing myself or my human frame completely, to being fully set backwards into my skull and stuck in there.

People always cite it as depersonalisation when I talk about it, or they tell me to lay off psychedelics. Except I've never taken psychs.

Anyway it's fucking terrifying and literally nothing else scares me anymore.

[Anonymous No.11282420]

>>11282415
Since January I have been overly aware of my existence/consciousness. It's like one day I realized I am a living being, existing in this body of mines. I can not take my mind off of myself, as in my own existence. It's not just thoughts either, I actually feel panic with it and feel as if my mind and body are separated. It feels like I am too awake! it's like I am conscious of my consciousness. I often feel stuck or literally trapped in my body. I will feel as if I am just this horizontal skin, bones and muscle thing and feel entrapped in my body. it's like I want to get away or break free from myself but it's impossible and I know it sounds silly. my body seems irrelevant. it's like I am afraid of my own being. with this I did get the existential thoughts and fear of death but that has since went away but this has lingered on. it's hard because its like I can't get away from thinking of my own self and noticing my own self... I notice every action I take and everything I do. it's like I didn't notice myself existing or living like "normal" people do but now I do and it's at the forefront of my every breath. I don't know how to get over this because I mean its my own existence, being in this body, that I am overly aware of/fixated on 24/7. these aren't just rummaging thoughts, with it comes the mental perception and disconnect so not just thoughts. The fact that I am in my body and notice it scares me. It's like I didn't ever notice this before or think about it and now that I have it scares me.

[Anonymous No.11282425]

>>11282326
It's a mix of things. Ennui, chemical imbalances with dopamine, drug abuse, anxiety, existential crisis, the isolation of the globalist age. Lacan argued though that the reason we are fascinated with death is because of our innate desire to want to overcome it, which resolves Freud's paradox of the "death drive." When really would you feel most like living then from surviving trauma itself? Avoiding predators, getting your face beat in. However we are living unnatural lives.

[Anonymous No.11282437]

>>11282263
Having a secret or something of thr sort be spread across social media, could literally ruin someone's life.

[Anonymous No.11282439]

discomfort

[Anonymous No.11282449]

>>11282263
The horrors that will ensue when the political side you disagree with gets too powerful.

[Anonymous No.11282483]

>>11282358
What irks me the most about the boomers and previous gen leftovers is how hypocritical and out of character it all seems considering what most were preaching and working towards in the 90s... 00s even. This recent colossal U-Turn fucking us all over would have been both sad and understandable if it didn't come off so pathetic and unecessary. If there's a silver lining to all this, I seriously doubt that the generations currently under their thumb will repeat this process during the height of their power and influence, but if I'm wrong it'll only get worse.

[Anonymous No.11282490]

Loosing, failing, dissapointing and/or alienating those closest to us.

[Anonymous No.11282529]

>>11282294
This a thousand times. There's no place for mourning and grief in our society, it's regarded as "mental health issues", instead of being seen as the natural parts of life that they are.

[Anonymous No.11282535]

>>11282263
unironically people not being able to use phones or electricity.

[Anonymous No.11282539]

>>11282420

See:

>>11282389

[Anonymous No.11282546]

>>11282263
smoking scares the shit out of upper middle class normies b/c it is an archetype of death and aging, the exact opposite of the youth that they worship as secular God, and a reminder that they will not live forever to consume and fuck, consume and fuck, consume and fuck .... etc. etc.

[Anonymous No.11282613]

>>11282420
You've broken through the gloss, which is the first step to freedom. Good luck man. I had a similar realisation early last year ... unironically led me to faith.

[Anonymous No.11282624]

>>11282263
Dying, not being special, talking about anything deeper than that new Netflix show, FOMO, discovering your elitist/classist (disguised as racist) feelings, the planet going to shit, people who are not ok + happy and thus remind you of the mask you put on or that your actions might bring suffering upon others, being conservative, not realizing one’s 'potential'

[Anonymous No.11282634]

>>11282624
Oh i forgot the most important one: Being sincere, shedding those 7 layers of irony

[Anonymous No.11282638]

>>11282420
Adding to what I just said >>11282613 ... whatever it is you're going through, if it is what I think it is, will get a lot worse before it gets better. Might be worthwhile seeing a therapist just in case.

>That which first resembles poison,
>but seems like nectar when transformed,
>is known as pure happiness, born
>out of one's own transquil spirit. (Bhagavad Gita 18:37)

[Anonymous No.11282743]

>>11282638
And to make it better? Just endure it? Sometimes I try to explore it to desensitize myself from the fear, or to overcome it, but each time I peel back another layer and I feel fear again.

[Anonymous No.11282746]

>>11282283
How is virtue different than responsibility?

[Anonymous No.11282754]

>>11282638
>>11282743

I'm at the stage where I really, really want the gloss back. I remember last Christmas being in the backyard with my family, my young nieces running around, it was a nice day and clear weather, I felt at peace then really, true, true peace. I said something to myself like "the only thing to live for is family and small moments like this". Which whatever I'm not trying to be deep or anything, but I mean I have always been a really romantic fag like that, like able to find real meaning in shit like love and friendship, but now it is all gone, I feel so far removed from everything. I want that gloss back, I want to be back next to my Dad talking about the football.

[Anonymous No.11282790]

>>11282743
>>11282754
It will get better. Your love of all those things will come back. If your experience is anything like mine was, you're reeling from the shock of an existential crisis right now, a shock that you can fully recover from, as I did. So I would very much encourage talking to a professional about this. When I went I was put on an anxiety medication and it really helped clear my thoughts and pretty soon afterwards I was normal again.

[Anonymous No.11282791]

human biodiversity
not thinking of trannies as "real" men/women
having a top10 of music/movies/art that's a bit too white+male

[Anonymous No.11282805]

>>11282288
>homeless fill the streets of America
>people are in abject poverty all over the world
>americans give their dogs Christmas presents

[Anonymous No.11282850]

>>11282546
I smoke because I know it's dangerous, it's like riding a motorcycle

[Anonymous No.11282867]

>>11282339
imagine thinking that the only people who think that Baby Boomers ruined the world are /pol/ and /biz/ come on dude even Gen X recognizes that it's true

[Anonymous No.11282912]

>>11282263
Pain, any other answer is pretentious trash.

[Anonymous No.11282928]

The same fears that have plagued the "average person" in every age:
Becoming ostracised, death, hunger, thirst, losing youth, debt, the Other, and thinking for themselves.

[Anonymous No.11282975]

not being allowed to buy shit

[Anonymous No.11283004]

/r9k/ had better answers to this question than /lit/

[Anonymous No.11283015]

>>11283004
Now that is truly terrifying.

[Anonymous No.11283022]

>>11282263
Rokos basilisk

[Anonymous No.11283029]

>>11282867
Gen X are literally Baby Boomers: 2

[Anonymous No.11283042]

>>11282263
People finding out what they truly think.

[Anonymous No.11283073]

1. Death
2. Being mediocre

[Anonymous No.11283076]

Even a brief moment of silence without distraction

[Anonymous No.11283091]

>>11283073

BTW, it just recently kicked me in as i posted this.
I like to have some beer every night so that i can keep my mind busy, which means that
I am slowly killing myself by drinking so that I can distract myself and forget about death.

Irony, irony, oh.

[Anonymous No.11283109]

>>11282263
Spiders

[Anonymous No.11283128]

The possibility of slipping in the shower

[Anonymous No.11283158]

>>11282263
Moral accountability.

[Anonymous No.11283183]

>>11282263
Not having access to the internet.

[Anonymous No.11283191]

>>11282425

>chemical imbalances
>Lacan
>Freud
>"death drive"

Leave and never return.

[Anonymous No.11283348]

>>11282288
a stunning, embarrassing picture

[Anonymous No.11283366]

>>11283191
this
seriously
based novalis posting is bestposting