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is homosexuality a normal thing ?
Argue your answer.

>> No.11259703

Pretty much. It has always existed and other animals also do it.

>> No.11259715

>>11259699
It is unnatural, immoral, and against God's will.

>> No.11259724

>>11259699
Yes. There's a lot of evolutionary reasons that make sense (non-breeding pairs; adoption), and there have been studies that show that there's a pattern in which homosexuality occurs (the more siblings a person has, the higher the changes that the younger ones will be homosexual). Homosexuality has been observed in a lot of animals, too.

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>>11259715
>God's will.
>Implying the existence of a """god"""

>> No.11259742

>>11259699
sure
but the subculture and modernite memes about it are not at all

>> No.11259744

>>11259703
they also eat their own shit and their babbys

>> No.11259747

>>11259742
self expression is a fundamental human experience.
so, yeah, actually, it is. Homosexuals just express themselves more because they need to validate themselves, since it doesn't come from outside.

>> No.11259750

>>11259744
so do humans

>> No.11259756

>>11259750
Sickn and deranged ones. Is homosexuality a mental illness?

>> No.11259759

>>11259733
God obviously doesn't exist, although he can certainly do so in some way. If enough hold something in their minds, developing it and allowing it to develop them, then it can be thought of as a legitimate organism. As it has power and form. Though that applies to everything, even basic social etiquette. However, the pic you posted is atrocious . It ignores the concepts 'evil', 'good', and humanity's relation to them. It's too simple to be reasonable.

>> No.11259762

>>11259747
No. They're arbitrary products that are largely unrelated to homosexuality in the strict sense, not innate and natural.

>> No.11259770

>>11259756
No, but you can't cherry pick what you want to fit your narrative and don't move goal posts.
>"is homosexuality natural?"
>"yes, it's observed in humans and animals"
>"but animals do cannibalism and stuff. so are gays cannibals?"
that's not how this works. animals don't kidnap woman and chain them up in their basement for years, so, you know.

>> No.11259777

>>11259762
the expression might show itself in a contrived, constructed way, but the need for self-expression is inherent and indelible.

>> No.11259799

>>11259770
Rape exists in the Animal Kingdom as well between different species. The fact you separate animals' behaviour from humans' because man is able to condemn, punish and fully understand these actions doesn't make any difference.

>> No.11259856

>>11259699
Normal = common, something 50% + 1 do

Therefore no, homosexuality is not normal.

>> No.11259886

>>11259799
natural means in nature, are you retarded?
Cannibalism and eating shit harm the individual or others. Fucking a dude in the ass harms no one (assuming the dude wants to be fucked, anything else is illegal as it should be).

>> No.11259917

>>11259886
He said Normal not natural

>> No.11259949

The difference between men and women is so inadmissible in some cases if we assume that men are innately attracted to only women we could also assume that these most visceral senses could be confused or have some sort of crossover unintended by nature. Personally I believe bisexuality is universal and hetero-normative ideals were only held commonplace due to their obvious necessity.

>> No.11259955

>>11259699
Yes. I have no problem with LGBTIQA persons.

>> No.11259956

>>11259703
penguins rape dead penguin bodies. is this also normal for you?

>> No.11259968

>>11259955
there's no such persons, those are just activities

>> No.11259986

Yes, when it comes down to it, it's just a kink

>> No.11259999

>>11259956
Yes. Animals do it, so its natural. Haven't i made myself clear?

>> No.11260004

>>11259699
In western society, mostly yes. Rest of the world (including eastern europe)? lol no

>> No.11260013

Not really. Doesnt mean its necessarily bad though.

>> No.11260025

>>11259715
>I live my life for a non existent being

>> No.11260029

>>11259699
shun and ridicule homosexuality, this is my argument. Whoever agrees will be blessed.

>> No.11260047

>>11259856
>Normal = common, something 50% + 1 do
>United States of America:
>Current male population:
>49.4%

really makes you think

>> No.11260075

>>11259856
who gave you these numbers? that's absolutely batshit

>> No.11260077

>>11260047
>'men' is something you do

really activates my almonds

>> No.11260090

sure why not

>> No.11260110

>>11259917
what is normal?

>> No.11260178

>>11260075
Literally in the definition

>> No.11260218

>>11260110
By definition
>(For a Person) Free from mental or physical disorders

>> No.11260240

>>11259703
Naturalistic fallacy.

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11260277

We're just socital outliers I don't know why you guys care so much. The Left care because they care about any minority group and like to string together a narrative but it's really not any of your businesses nor should you make it. Nobody gives a shit what I think of you guys and the vaginal Jews you worship in /lit/fu threads so how about we just chill and put our metaphorical dicks away and read books?

>> No.11260285

Very weird ideas of what normality is itt, it's as if you've never read a book.

Normal is something that conforms to the norm, what is expected from things by a society. It may be similar but it is not necessarily the same as what is common or frequent. Much less about what is right or wrong. Wearing your pants on your head is not only uncommon and not very frequent, but abnormal, it doesn't mean you are inherently wrong, just that one would expect you to be excluded in some way because you're doing it, even if that means no one will take your ideas seriously, some will think you are crazy, stupid or pulling a prank (notice also that this doesn't logically follow: you may also be discussing various serious good ideas and people be missing out on them because they are judging you by the pants on your head. They too don't want to be associated with the abnormal, that's what makes it about society).

Some things are not as frequent as others, like most people have black hair, less have blond hair, even less have it red (and this varies depending on the place and therefore it also varies in people's perception). But all of them are normal hair, accepted and expected hair. See how when talking about minorities, the number is not really that relevant. It's the difference in treatment that is at the core of the discussion. However the most important point is to see that for something to become normal it requires more than just being accepted, but to be expected as well, in this sense, the normal brings the abnormal just like you can't have a coin with one side.

That's why homosexuality cannot be said to be normal today. First because it is not widely accepted, it brings forth plenty of variety of reactions, from acceptance to death penalty. But even when it is accepted, it is accepted along with heterosexuality and not opposite to it, that's why even then it cannot be said to be normal. A scenario for normal homosexuality could be, idk, if you are the only straight guy in the drag make up class and everyone looks at you as if you don't understand something basic. In all other places, it is not normal.

In ancient Greece it was normal, but under different rules and taboos, written and unwritten contracts, and mutually influencing other relationships in society. In many other societies you'll will see different takes on it, specially because there is no "it", it will take different names and be accepted or unaccepted under different circumstances.

None of this necessarily implies anything on how frequent or unfrequent it is, or how good or bad it is, or what it is. It doesn't matter how many societies agree upon it, or if animals do it too (that implies that if we were the only species to invent homosexuality that would make it wrong, which it wouldn't).

>> No.11260305

>>11260285
good post

>> No.11260313

>>11259699
Yeah, it's a genetic thing, they're born with it (homosexuals,I mean).

>> No.11260321
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>>11259699
Lesbian here.

Just a reminder that we are taking over. The fact is women have NEVER been attracted to men: we needed them for protection, economic support and procreation, and sex is what we traded for those things (or they just raped us).

But now? First-world men have been totally domesticated, so no need to worry about violence. We're taking over the work force too, so we can provide for ourselves. And medical science has made procreative sex totally unnecessary; we can just buy the sperm (with our superior earnings) and have it cleanly injected without getting within ten feet of a penis.

Women are naturally more attracted to other women. Who wouldn't be? We're beautiful, soft and smooth and curvy, basically the opposite of hairy oafish ape-like men. And we know how to please each other like no man ever could. Lesbian sex can last for hours.

Every day more and more "straight" girls are being turned. The world of the future is where a small number of strong men act as our designated studs and the rest of you losers are eunuchs designated for manual labor exclusively. Deal with it.

>> No.11260336

>>11260321
>Nice bait

>> No.11260338

>>11260321
I love this copypasta. Guaranteed replies on /pol/.

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>>11260321
Boy oh boy sure butterfly has got some wicked thoughts . Who would have imagined.

Good that I live in a country where females are still well domesticated.

>> No.11260365

>>11259699
most of the people arent gay so being gay isnt the norm

>> No.11260389 [DELETED] 

>>11260178
there's a reason "normal" and "common" are two different words.

>> No.11260470

>>11260389
normal things are common, homos are not common

>> No.11260806

>>11260321
>/pol/ bait thread being posted in /lit/
Time to leave this shitty website it seems

>> No.11260820

of course it's normal: it happens.

>> No.11260830

>>11260004
The rest of the world has gay people too.

>> No.11260836

>>11259699
Yes, pretty much. Has existed since the dawn of times and it's probably an evolved group strategy to reduce the numbers of sexually frustrated males and have someone take care of the orphans in the tribe.

>> No.11260845

>>11259733
I think it's more of a fallacy than a paradox.
God made man with free will. He also made the angels with some semblance of it, because Satan (He who is opposed, Lucifel) was able to rebel. He created man and put them in a garden with a forbidden tree. The forbidden tree wasn't there to test them, but rather to give them a choice. They can take the blue pill and stay in eden, or eat the fruit and see just how deep the rabbit hole goes. Satan, or one of his servants, whoever that snake was, was able to convince Adam and Eve to partake of the fruit, sending them down the path of good and evil. Think of, say, the Covenant of Champions from Dark Souls 2.
If there was no fruit and no possible way for there to be evil...it would not be true free will. It would just be things happening because of cause and effect, a ball rolling down a hill with no wind. A dart flying towards a board without interference. Because you threw the dart towards the board, and you had the skill to do so, the dart will hit the board. The ball will continue rolling until it loses momentum.
I'm not arguing about whether God exists or not. I believe he does, personally, but if you don't, that's up to you. What this is about is just me debunking this supposed paradox.

>> No.11260847

>>11259699
Define normal, faggot

>> No.11260921

>>11260285
t. foucault