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Mine is Ivan Vasov, from Bulgaria.

>> No.11253130

>>11253026
Vazov is trash, I literally cannot think of a single post-1890 bulgarian author who isn't better than him.

>> No.11253178
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Branko Miljković, Serbian poet from Niš

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>> No.11253236

>>11253187
Imaš li možda 'Derviš i smrt' u digitalnom obliku?

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>>11253026

>> No.11253273

>>11253130
this

>> No.11253276

>>11253026
FUCK VAZOV

>> No.11253281

>>11253026
he literally said that the theater should be dumbed down

>> No.11253523
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Beceлин Хaнчeв
Пeньo Пeнeв
Hикoлa Baпцapoв
Гeo Mилeв
Димитъp Taлeв

>> No.11253547

>>11253026
He's got some powerful poetry, but most of his prose is mediocre.
Dimitar Dimov is the best, followed by Fani Popova-Mutafova.
The problem with Bulgarian literature is that communism pretty much made it impossible to have normal writers, let alone them getting famous outside the country.

Anyway, the best Balkan author is Nikos Kazandzakis and I say that as a Bulgarian who has a low opinion on the Greeks as a whole, so none of that Greekboo shit.

Ivo Andric is another contender but I haven't read that much from him.

>> No.11253563

>>11253547
>made it impossible to have normal writers
what? and how?

>> No.11253565

>>11253563
Art doesn't thrive in a totalitarian society. Everything should go through a committee to determine if the story and characters obey the party line and all that bullshit. That's one of the reasons historical (medieval) fiction became a popular genre, you don't have to mention communism (that much) or how great Russia is (that much).

>> No.11253579

>>11253547
Fuck you too bud.

>> No.11253583

>>11253565
i nqma dobri avtori?

>> No.11253585

>>11253026
The Greeks.

>> No.11253586
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>>11253583
>writing to me in Bulgarian on a fucking international board
>writing to me in Bulgarian using the Latin alphabet

>> No.11253631

>>11253586
ooooo ne тyй нa loshu u pazardjishku se vqrva чe aкy някoи ти pise na CХЛИOКABИTCA (u interneta) znachi shti umresh skoru... tc tc tc losho losho

>> No.11253646

>>11253523
I've read Tютюн and didn't find anything remarkable about it, its quite boring actually.

>> No.11253661

>>11253646
meant for >>11253547

>> No.11253703

>>11253646
>>11253661
Read it when you stop being a teenager pleb.

>> No.11253713

>>11253547
>Ivo Andric
He's terrible! I only enjoyed the Cursed Yard (Prokleta avlija) and I speak Serbian. Dobrica Ćosić is a good author.

>> No.11253714

>>11253187
milorad pavic is pretty cool, like a poor man's borges

>> No.11253723

>>11253703
>dimov is da best
>can't explain why
Maybe 60 years ago it would have been great but I just don't find anything interesting in it, including the prose. I actually think of rereading it soon but everything is so predictable and cliche that I will probably stop halfway through .

>> No.11253734

my favorite bulgarian author is thomas pynchon

>> No.11253741

>>11253723
Then you really are a pleb.
Tell me what you think is best?

>> No.11253742

>>11253187
Stankovic looks like a Chad.

>> No.11253757

>>11253741
>Then you really are a pleb.
>still cant explain why

>> No.11253793

>>11253757
Yes, I need to write a whole essay on why one of the most hailed Bulgarian writers is good to some anonymous pleb who claims it's not "remarkable" and "quite boring".

>> No.11253803

elin pelin is so comfy

>> No.11253808

>>11253793
dimov is a gay faggot communist retard nigger cocksucker

>> No.11253810

>>11253793
>write a whole essay
Two sentences would probably be enough.
>one of the most hailed Bulgarian
>anonymous pleb
nice appeal to popularity and authority, come back when you learn how to make an argument.

>> No.11253814

>>11253810
>b-but it's boooooring

>> No.11253819

give me good vazov poetry

>> No.11253847

>>11253814
If its not boring you would have explained why and embarrassed me, hasn't happened yet.

>> No.11253856

>>11253819
this. i need to know too

>> No.11253859

>>11253803
Йopдaн Йoвкoв?

>> No.11253865

>>11253808
read the original then

>> No.11253890

>>11253856
>>11253819
Poetry can't be translated. Sorry but this stuff could only be appreciated if the original language is your language or you speak it fluently.

With that being said:
https://allpoetry.com/Ivan-Vazov

>> No.11253897

>>11253819
>>11253856
there's are none.

>> No.11253902

>>11253026
Kadare
Kazantzakis
Sorescu

In this order

>> No.11253905

>>11253890
but I am bulgarian

>> No.11253911

>>11253890
nigga im bulgarian

>> No.11253918

>>11253911
>>11253905
>asking for Vazov poetry while being unironically Bulgarian

>> No.11253925

>>11253918
i wish i could be only ironically Bulgarian but i can't. sorry

>> No.11253950

>>11253918
i asked for GOOD vazov poetry you dumb fuckin italian rape baby

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hey guys

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCOhwj7J9bo

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Miroslav Krleža

>> No.11254023

who /naskomentata/ here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkFfveMtmfw

>> No.11254026

>>11253990
that's good
>vikash mu sukrovishte a smenqsh si sunducite

>> No.11254032

>>11254023
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6yTdCaIssws

e edinstveniq bg poet

>> No.11254046

>>11253990
shes kind of ugly and gross but i want to fuck her so bad

>> No.11254086

so there's no good vazov poetry
i fucking knew it, that hack is irredeemable
we should stop teaching him at schools

>> No.11254091

>>11254086
Correct!

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>>11254046
don't we all, Anon, don't we all...

>> No.11254122

Bulgarian (I am one)
Emilian Stanev - Antihrist
Konstantin Konstantinev - Krav
Viktor Paskov
Svetlozar Igov - Elenite
From the newest I unironically like - Silvia Tomova

Serb:
Radoslav Petkovic - Sudbina i komentari
Milos Crnjanski - Seobe + Kod hiperborejaca (obligatory)
Mihajlo Pantic - Ako je to ljubav + Ovoga puta o bolu
Branislav Nusic
Croat:
Ante Tomic - Cudo u Poskokovoj Dragi, Sto je muškarac bez brkova
Ivan Aralica, Miroslav Krleza, Dubravka Ugresic (caution)
Romanian:
Matei Visniec - Prose and Plays
Ioana Pârvulescu -
Mircea Nedelciu
Turkish:
Reşat Nuri - The Wren
Necati Cumalı - Dry Summer

>> No.11254155

"Moжe дa e мaлкo лицeмepнo
нo знaй чe cъм пo-гopeщa oт Inferno"
is Tita the bulgarian /lit/ girl

>> No.11254163

>>11254155
she is

>> No.11254224

>>11254122
>Ante Tomic - Cudo u Poskokovoj Dragi, Sto je muškarac bez brkova
>Dubravka Ugresic
>Best Balkan authors
Je li ovo mamac?

>> No.11254364

>>11254122
Thank you for this.

>> No.11254704

>>11254224
No, these aren't the best ones. Even the others I have mentioned aren't the best ones. Not enough translated literature is available, so for me its not possible to make a complete list.
But I like Ante Tomic and Ugresic is well known in Bulgaria and several of her books are translated. Nevertheless, I have noted to proceed with caution.
If you want to share someone with us, then please do. I, for example, would recommend Milen Ruskov, but there is only one book (and not the best one) translated, because his language style just doesn't allow it.

>> No.11255072

>>11253990
Man great thing I'm not Bulgarian

>> No.11255534

>>11254704
Wait, I'm a retard, didn't notice that you were bulgarian, assumed you were a croat.
IMO Tomić used to write very funny weekly columns but his longer stories (I've read Što he muškarac and watched Ustav RH) are watered down too much, and the latter is by-the-numbers leftist moralizing. (But he is very successful and popular, that I have to admit.) He's definitely not someone I'd pick as a great or particularly notable Croatian writer.
Ugrešić is a fine writer, but, again, not that notable when compared to our classics.
As you say, the translations of our lit are sporadic and random, so you end up with this situation where you can't find canonical, excellent writers in foreign languages, but can read some Ante Tomić in Bulgarian. Nonsense.
Admittedly many of our best writers were poets, so translations would have to be really, really good to convey them properly.
If you want more Croatian lit I recommend Ranko Marinković's Cyclops (together with Krleža's work, the most important croatian novel of the last century, it's kind of like Ulysses lite). It was translated into English recently and allegedly was received very well.

>> No.11257060

>>11253026
I got a book called Short Stories from the Balkans, it contains some really funny and interesting stories, the writing style and similes those people use are very particular. Any recommendations?