/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.11228513]

You will NEVER EVER dine at Balliol College, Oxford before quietly sneaking off with your privately educated (£36,000 per year plus expenses and netball tour fees) English rose girlfriend. Every night for 8 weeks per term, 3 terms an academic year, for 3 to 4 years of your intensive, 3 essay a week, tutorial (maximum of 3 people, including you and a world leading expert who probably wrote the textbook ("Ignore that part Anon, just padding for the slower students at inferior universities! Now lets enjoy the weather and spend the hour outside, discussing my conception of Neoplatonism through the lens of Rawls."), 3 of them a week) filled life changing, world class experience.

No need for job interviews. The finest employers in the Western hemisphere come from London to advertise. Though that doesn't adequately convey the personalised nature of it. No presentations to halls filled with 300+ people followed by awkward business card shuffling. Personalised dinners with your college's alumni. Dinner with Amal Clooney, where she discusses her international human rights work in the Hague on Monday, prosecuting the last of the Eastern European holdouts, and then her work in the backwaters of Mugazumbabwete where she represented a blind, deaf, and disabled, 88 year old in a meeting with a tribal chief. Extremely rewarding, I trust you guys not to publicise it.

Brunch with Tony Blair and other members of the Lacrosse team, including your rival for your English rose, Uppingham-Mannheim III, who you have come to a frosty respect. Tony was dreadfully gauche but he did raise some chuckles when he talked about the calibre of the current Labour leadership*. To this we day we still discuss whether Birckbeck and Brunel on a resume are more embarrassing than 2 failed A levels. Aah.. The high-minded discussions of the men of Oxford...

*Frightfully common: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tristram-hunt-tells-oxbridge-labour-students-that-the-top-1-per-cent-must-take-leadership-in-labour-a6717731.html

[Anonymous No.11228530]

The two worst things about Britain are how venal it is, and the class system.

[Anonymous No.11228544]

>>11228513
>who you have come to a frosty respect.
For whom you have come to a frosty respect is the proper formulation. How terribly middle class.

[Anonymous No.11228560]

>>11228513
prose too purple post too long. pic related, it's the prole trapped inside who you pretend to be.

[Anonymous No.11228577]

>>11228530
India has a class system. You cannot seriously say that Britain has one, or that the Brits take it seriously.

Also, Worcester alumni here.

[Anonymous No.11228595]

>>11228577
>or that the Brits take it seriously
They pay some old German lady millions and allowed her to steal billions. While cheering on her spawn getting married. Can't take it more serious than that.

Also you're confusing class with chaste.

[Anonymous No.11228596]

>>11228577
>You cannot seriously say that Britain has one, or that the Brits take it seriously.

>Also, Worcester alumni here.

LMBO

[Anonymous No.11228600]

>>11228595
I think you're confusing chaste with caste m8.

[Anonymous No.11228613]

>>11228513
Your sentences are riddled with dangling phrases and clauses; the effect is that you sound like you have suffered multiple brain injuries.

[Anonymous No.11228636]

>>11228600

I think you're confusing caste with cat m8y

[Anonymous No.11228647]

Try Trinity College, Cambridge... getting into this place is harder than getting into Hogwarts.

[Anonymous No.11228648]

tfw poortherner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk1TP5EkLS4

[Anonymous No.11228665]

>>11228648
I'll take Mark E Smith over an Oxford/Cambridge music grad any day.

[Anonymous No.11228670]

>England
>Lacrosse

[Anonymous No.11228673]

I know people who graduated from Oxford and they still have to apply for jobs, anon.

[Anonymous No.11228686]

i didn't get that life, therefore the only thing i can do is make the most of the one i've got

[Anonymous No.11228705]

>>11228673
Lol they're obviously new money.

I know a guy who studied geography and went straight into banking earning 60k then side-stepped into theatre

[Anonymous No.11228713]

>>11228705
That starts a lot earlier than Oxford.

[Anonymous No.11228724]

>>11228705
>60k
I make that with no degree at all. <3 America

[Anonymous No.11228746]

>>11228513
>Three essays a week
Confirmed for LARPer. Nobody - regardless of subject - writes three essays a week

[Anonymous No.11228759]

>>11228560
the upperclass has awful, banal, unimaginative diction and terribly limited lexical knowldege. They're not particularly bright unless you are average iq in which case more of them are goign to be about 1.5SD's above you than not. But if you are two SD's above normalfags (me), then they're nothing but midwit silver spoon suckling insects.
>>11228724
60k in Euros is almost 70k in dollars burger and he made that right out of uni as a 22 year old. as a bachelor that's enough wealth to go out for dinner every single night at upper scale restaurants and wasting hundreds of dollars on drinks with thots. you would never worry about rent, food, clothes, the only thing would be losing the race to be a prick which is what rich fags are actually chasing

[Anonymous No.11228787]

>>11228759
>60k in Euros is almost 70k in dollars burger and he made that right out of uni as a 22 year old. as a bachelor that's enough wealth to go out for dinner every single night at upper scale restaurants and wasting hundreds of dollars on drinks with thots. you would never worry about rent, food, clothes, the only thing would be losing the race to be a prick which is what rich fags are actually chasing
Yeah i was making it when i was 23 so around the same time. Anyway 60k where i live probably has more purchasing power than 70+ in britain (and less taxes) but...i fell for the marriage meme so i didn't get to chance to embarrass myself buying €20 bottom shelf drinks for whores at Dorsia.

[Anonymous No.11228803]

>applied to Cambridge and failed at the interview stage
>had to settle for LSE
>did an MA abroad, gained a second language and useful life experience
>coasted into grad scheme with t1 investment bank
>now an associate
>routinely throw well-qualified Cambridge CVs into the trash just because I can
>this sort of thing is routine and I know people who bin CVs based on what Oxbridge college they went to

It doesn't matter where you go as long as it's Oxbridge/LSE/Durham/UCL/Warwick, it's what you do with it that matters

[Anonymous No.11228820]

>>11228544
Quite.

[Anonymous No.11228840]

>>11228513
>Dinner with Amal Clooney, where she discusses her international human rights work in the Hague on Monday, prosecuting the last of the Eastern European holdouts, and then her work in the backwaters of Mugazumbabwete where she represented a blind, deaf, and disabled, 88 year old in a meeting with a tribal chief.
Sounds fucking gay

[Anonymous No.11228869]

>>11228840
amal clooney strikes me as the type of snowflake champagne activist whose bullshit anecdotes would leave me feeling very ill.

[Anonymous No.11228877]

>>11228803

How does my CV stand out in those places if I didn't go to those universities but got good school grades and a cool employer on my CV? I want to work in s&t

[Anonymous No.11228893]

>>11228787
you should have stayed single you fucking idiot. if i was making that much right out of uni i would never let a woman stay in my apt for more than 12 hours

[Anonymous No.11229009]

>>11228724
what do you do?

[Anonymous No.11229031]

>>11228893
That's a pretty cruel way to treat your mom.

[Anonymous No.11229072]

Okay, I don’t give a shit. I’m in an already pretty good college so anything more prestigious would just be for the title on my degree and not the education. You shouldn’t go to a college for prestige or high class roasties, you should go there to learn. Eventually the material they can teach you plateaus and your left with a bunch of pretentious fucktards that are no better than someone who went to a regular school

[Anonymous No.11229085]

>you will never be born into the upper classes
>you will never be the scion of a respected family whose history goes back hundreds of years
>you will never be genetically superior to the unwashed masses
why even live?

[Anonymous No.11229094]

>>11229085
Not being born a parasite and having everything handed to you as if you were a toddler, sounds like a decent reason.

[Anonymous No.11229096]

>>11229009
GIS technician for the department of ecology. Self taught. Started out spraying river banks to kill invasive species. Look up Americorp if it still exists. A good way to get your foot in the door for an environmental science career.

[Anonymous No.11229151]

>>11229094
>British landed gentry
>everything handed to you as if you were a toddler
>2018
Are you posting from the 1800's?

[Anonymous No.11229154]

>>11229096
What's the best way to teach myself GIS?

[Anonymous No.11229267]

>>11228513
>you will never be the son of a high-paying and well-respected (but not “too” well known) donor to the boy’s boarding college that you attend
>you will never engage in clandestine sadomasochistic rituals with the other boys under your charge beyond the eye of the administration (see: fagging)
>you will never have a loyal crew of (nevertheless intelligent) underlings who assist you in torturing other boys for fun

[Anonymous No.11229311]

So is this the male side of Downton Abbey fantasies?

[Anonymous No.11229352]

>>11229154
Well it is not easy in my opinion unless you get to work with the equipment which I did on the job as an assistant. With experience and very little study you know enough to do the job well. I am not very intelligent either, except with language and autistically reading every work i can with writers i like. Take that for what you will. My recommendation would be to just look for a career in any trade; outdoors type job. If i could I would be an electrician in stead.

[Anonymous No.11229400]

>>11228759
Attitudes like this spawn anti intellectual culture
t. 150IQ+ anon

[Anonymous No.11229401]

>tfw studied CS at a lower mid-tier American commuter school
>my sister goes to UVA and joins secret societies named after Edgar Allan Poe
>she's never even read Edgar Allan Poe
>not even when she was in high school (she skipped all her reading assignments and just used sparknotes)
IMO the modern anglo education system is set up to reward social butterflies and punish the autistic and perpetually nervous. We need to END merit based admissions and bring back the cultural standards of JFK and Ezra Pound's day (two mediocre students who waltzed ass backwards into the Ivy league).

[Anonymous No.11229412]

>>11229401
>admissions standards of JFK
this is known as "being rich"

[Anonymous No.11229416]

>>11228577
>>11228705
>India has a class system. You cannot seriously say that Britain has one, or that the Brits take it seriously.
>obviously new money

[Anonymous No.11229437]

>>11228513
Only tangentially related to this shitpost but why are all the Oxford political theory professors obsessed with Rawls? I get what he did for contract theory was very important but I don't think he deserves the overwhelming attention he receives when other historical theorists have proved far more important

[Anonymous No.11229441]

>>11229437
Rawlsians hire other Rawlsians. Different universities tend to be associated with different schools of thought

[Anonymous No.11229458]

>>11228513
I enjoy not having my ass pounded by older students in some strange ritual faggotry. Think I'll stick to good public schools

[Anonymous No.11229476]

>>11228803
I'm laughing really hard at the fact you bin Cambridge CVs out of pettiness, fair play

[Anonymous No.11229499]

>>11229400
The typical British “thinker” as moulded by boarding schools with their shrill sports days and puffed up Latin & Greek deserves nothing less. If that is the breed you call intellectual, then let all intellectuals be destroyed. Repressed sexless things. So unlike the Hellenic braves with their tears and eros. Nietzsche was right about this whole thing. The headmaster ritual.

[Anonymous No.11229515]

>university

[Anonymous No.11229517]

>>11229476
>tfw got into 4 out of 5 grad schools I applied to for stemfag major
guess which one is never getting cited (by way of academics who work or have worked there) in any of my future papers

[Anonymous No.11229519]

>>11228544
with whom, a respect is mutual innit

[Anonymous No.11229550]

>>11229519
Not necessarily

[Anonymous No.11229607]

>>11229437
Man your going to be really disappointed when you discover the complete lack of idealogical diversity in humanity departments.

[Anonymous No.11229608]

>>11229550
of course not, but I sure I hope it is in this upper crust fantasy scenario

[Anonymous No.11229617]

>>11228513
True, but at least I'm not British.

[Anonymous No.11229630]

What is the point of trying to live this life in the UK? In London if you work in high finance or law you're not going to have any money left after paying the obscene rent for your 1 bedroom shoebox apartment and wasting money at all the mandatory social events if you ever want to progress beyond entry level.

Good luck saving to afford a large house in a pleasant area where you can easily commute to work. Corporations create this image to lure in naive plebs as wageslaves.

[Anonymous No.11229639]

>>11229630

No, high finance and law are some of the few industries that pay high wages and allow people to live well in London. Especially 22 year old Oxbridge graduates who earn over £60k per year, live comfortable and fulfilling lives, and have lots of sex with attractive people.

[Anonymous No.11229644]

That might be the life of Oxbridge PhD student. But as an undergrad, you are still one of the 12 000 undergraduates. It is not as if a spot in LSE would lead you to have brunch at Goldman Sachs daily.

[Anonymous No.11229645]

>tfw intelligent anon who had a bad house hold growing up and dropped out to get a job instead
>tfw just not finally achieiving goals at the age of 22
>tfw Ill never get the opportunity to go a high tier school

[Anonymous No.11229650]

>>11229085
to ensure that your children might join that class one day

literally the only thing keeping me going

[Anonymous No.11229738]

>>11229085
>>11229650
I am so glad I am not this spooked... who else /spiritualaristocrat/ here

[Anonymous No.11229781]

>>11229738
Not sure what spiritual aristocracy is but it sounds good. Fuck these spoiled brat "high class" people, every one I've ever met in real life was anti-intellectual and, more importantly, a shitty person whose goal in life was to get away with as much vice as possible while maintaining the appearance of being a gentleman or lady.

[Anonymous No.11229819]

>>11228513
This isn't literature discussion. The mods ought to know better than indulging this meme.

[Anonymous No.11229824]

>>11229781
The people you describe are most likely upper-middle class orcs coming from parents with new money and no time for them.

Any working-class, or middle class person who brushes shoulders with the upper-class/aristocracy doesn't wish to go back. That is not to say that that lower classes are fundamentally flawed.

[Anonymous No.11229843]

>>11228577
>using "alumni" in reference to the singular
Must not have studied that hard, m8

[Anonymous No.11229919]

>>11228648
Let me quote what my dad said just recently: "Every visit to England felt like visting East Germany before the fall of the wall."

[Anonymous No.11230021]

>>11228530
The class system is the only good thing left in Britain.

[Anonymous No.11230090]

>>11229639
>top upper crest or society makes 60k a year
man I love burgerland

[Anonymous No.11230105]

>>11230090
I made more selling cars in my early twenties lmao

[Anonymous No.11230119]

>>11229400
people from the upperclass are not usually above 115 iq anon, they’re overwhelmingly shallow nitwits who know enough to make conversation on inaccessible topics but have no ideas and are basically fishing for ways to socially signal. I get that breeding leads to more robust specimens but its just rare to produce iq’s above 120 in any deme much less one that consistently selects for looks and social aggression rather than intelligence and creativity. Most artists are not upper class, they’re upper middle class and members of the lower nobility. The elite of the elite are midwits near completely.

[Anonymous No.11230250]

>>11230119
Are you talking to me?

[Anonymous No.11230253]

>>11230090
burgerland is the land of money, planning on moving there next year

[Anonymous No.11230257]

>>11229608
We're on 4chan, you limp-dick faggot

[Anonymous No.11230272]

>>11228513
Looks like Hogwarts irl

[Anonymous No.11230273]

rather be a jew that attends havard and works in wall street than go balliol to work in the city

[Anonymous No.11230284]

>>11229738
>who else /spiritualaristocrat/ here
That's a fun concept

Way better than someone who uses the term new money while disparaging people of the elite class as 115 dullards in a constant game to convince himself he's smart.

[Anonymous No.11230288]

>>11230272
What if I told you that Hogwarts looks like a generic high level British university

[Anonymous No.11230291]

>>11228513
i don't give a shit about that pseud hole
i'm at MIT studying physics