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How do I read poetry in the right metre?

>> No.11225513

>>11225511
Very carefully.

>> No.11225518

Metre is a meme

>> No.11225563

>>11225511
http://www.cosmoetica.com/S2-DES2.htm

>> No.11226895

It's already written in the right meter, you just have to read it

>> No.11226907

>>11225518
>>11226895

these

>> No.11227810

>>11226895
how to make pauses?

for instance , sometimes a verse ends with a comma, or the verse has a comma inside. Sometimes it feels like it breaks the rithm.

>> No.11227859

>>11227810
poetry is designed to make the english language dance like latin does naturally. i mean like oscar wilde wrote poetry more in a british accent so reading it as an american might be different but i never had a problem organizing the cadence of the words in my head. just read it out loud or go to a poetry reading in ur city and see how other people do it

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11227884

Hijacking the thread but my question is kinda similar.
How does one understand a poem without reading it's explanation?

>> No.11227904

>>11227884
By reading the poem

>> No.11227907

>>11227810
the fundamental metrics of english verse are very mutable and can be adapted for a variety of different forms and rhyming structures. When in doubt, stick to Iambic pentameter (IE. 5 feet in a line with two beats for each foot, an unstressed followed by a stressed syllable). Adapt your writing so that the comma falls either in an unstressed beat or at the end of the line.

>> No.11227928

>>11227810
Poems aren't metronomes mate. Read the pauses as you normally would, they are there on purpose.

>> No.11227937

>>11227884
You read it over and over and over again. Good poetry is so dense you will need a lot of time to dismantle its full meaning.

If there's a reference you don't understand (for example if there's the name of a greek hero whose history you don't know), look it up. Actually look up a lot of words if you're unsure you know all their meanings, a lot of poetry works with the ambiguity of words.

Knowing an explanation/interpretation of a poem doesn't necessarily mean, you understand the poem - you can pretty much always argue about the accuracy of an interpretation.

>> No.11227942

>>11227928
shouldn't be there a pause at the end of each verse? or every 2 verses? If thats so, why they put commas at the end of a verse?.

>> No.11227974

>>11227942
Line-breaks do represent a pause, but a quick pause even shorter than the length of a comma.

>> No.11227986

>>11227942
Yeah, if there is a comma take a comma length pause. If there isn't, just keep reading. That is called enjambment.
The lines are broken up the way they are (among other reasons) to fit the meter.

>> No.11227989

>>11227974
ahh ok, I didn't know that detail.

>> No.11228055

>>11227942
There are divergent opinions about this. Most guys I know prefer to read it as normal as possible (that means, not pausing at the end of the verse, if there isn't a natural pause, since it can appear artificial). On the other hand, you might argue, if you don't make a pause at the end of verses, it can limit the musicality of a poem.

For example:

You don't know how to read
a poem. Thus, you seek
an answer here on /lit/.

If you read it without a pause at the end of each verse, it doesn't even sound like a poem (well, reason might be: it's not a good poem at all), but if you read it with pauses, it gains a certain rhythm.

Great poems on the other hand, have a rhythm of their own and don't depend on an artificial (structural) rhythm.

tl;dr: ask yourself what fits the poem best.

>> No.11228215

How do I write in meter?

>> No.11228223

>>11225511
ski be bop boom boom he ha

Just make a beat and run with it

>> No.11228281

>>11228215
Practice

>> No.11228473

>>11225511
just wanna break in here with my ongoing crusade against the single most retarded meme in existence today: Black hole brain wojack (or any other character.)
Whoever made this meme seems to think black holes "absolute emptiness" or "negative mass". In fact it's the opposite! They curve space-time in the way depicted in the meme, sucking everything in precisely because of how incredibly massive they are. If anything this visual joke should be used to represent someone who's terrifically "big brained", massively smart.

>> No.11228516

>>11228473
Nah dude, it's the best version of the meme. It actually confirm that the poster is a retard, not only pretending to be one.