/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.11199641]

Are the parallels between America and Nazi Germany real? Books on this subject?

[Anonymous No.11199657]

No

[Anonymous No.11199663]

[Anonymous No.11199677]

>>11199641
see Zeitgeist movie

[Anonymous No.11199684]

>>11199641
nah not really

[Anonymous No.11199709]

>>11199641
Try The Plot Against America. Trigger Warning: triple-distilled Jewish neuroticism.

[Anonymous No.11199801]

>>11199641
Hyperbole and reductio ad Hitlerum. At the forefront is a set of incredibly weak libel laws, a populace armed to the teeth, and an unassailable freedom of the press and expression (compare to british police forces arresting for bullying over twitter and german rules on representing nazi symbols).

If someone makes a comparison that doesnt include japanese internment camps or native americans in the 1910s, you can pretty much ignore them. And in those cases you can also discuss imperial british treatment of boers.

[Anonymous No.11199833]

>>11199641
no, you retard. completely different.

[Anonymous No.11199837]

>>11199641
1984

[Anonymous No.11199838]

>>11199677
HAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.11199860]

>>11199641
it can't happen here by sinclair lewis
it was written in the 30s as a warning against the genuine fascism that was on the rise at the time. it's been dug out by shrieky types in the past couple of years and reviewed as "eerily prescient" etc but even a cursory comparison shows what a load of old bollocks it is

>an unassailable freedom of the press and expression
...which is largely a myth in an era when an organisation can be fined for "misgendering" someone and people can have their expensive education and career hopes ruined by saying a naughty word

[Anonymous No.11199906]

>>11199641
>Are the parallels between America and Nazi Germany real?
Sadly not.

>Books on this subject?
Maybe read Mein Kampf anderen try to figure out potential parallels yourself.

[Anonymous No.11200014]

>>11199641
The Nazis were definitely influenced by America. From eugenics to the large style political rallies you often see in old films. The war of German expansionism/resettlement in Europe was partly inspired by American westward expansion/resettlement in the Americas. Race laws as well etc.

[Anonymous No.11200023]

read White Power and This Time the World, then the Turner Diaries

[Anonymous No.11200050]

TCoL49

[Anonymous No.11200053]

>>11199677
>Zeitgeist movie

[Anonymous No.11200453]

>>11199641
The Assassination of Fred Hampton by Jeffrey Haas
The WikiLeaks Files by Julian Assange
Agents of Repression by Ward Churchill
Cheating Justice. How Bush and Cheney Attacked the Rule of Law and Plotted to Avoid Prosecution by Cynthia Cooper
Lies the Government Told You by Andrew Napolitano
Unequal Protection, How Corporations Became ''People'' by Thom Hartmann
Examining Tuskegee, The Infamous Syphilis Study and Its Legacy by Susan Reverby
Blowback, America's Recruitment of Nazis and Its Destructive Impact on Our Domestic and Foreign Policy by Christopher Simpson
Wall Street and The Rise of Hitler by Antony Sutton
IBM and the Holocaust, The Strategic Alliance Between Nazi Germany and America's Most Powerful Corporation by Edwin Black
All the President’s Men by Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein
No Place to Hide. Edward Snowden, the NSA, and the U.S. Surveillance State by Glenn Greenwald
On the Trail of the Assassins, One Man's Quest to Solve the Murder of President Kennedy by Jim Garrison
Pentagate by Thierry Meyssan

And the list goes on and on.

[Anonymous No.11200460]

>>11199641
No

[Anonymous No.11200474]

>>11200460
Fuck off designated stormfag, your surveillance and branwash over this website are going down.

[Anonymous No.11200779]

Jordan Peterson
Nick Land
Julius Evola
Yukio Mishima
Ayn Rand

All the shilling on them is the sign of our times. Times when a white supremacist group once called Stormfront is paying people to spam this shit on /lit/.

[Anonymous No.11200807]

>>11200779
Forgot the vowel Sowel.

[Anonymous No.11200984]

>>11200807
*Sowel the vowel

[Anonymous No.11201544]

>>11200779
Nice bait, allow me to reply

>Ayn Rand
Objectivist, Wrong
>Yukio Mishima
I can understand this, but it's a vast hyperbole concerning his patriotic, nationalistic beliefs
>Julius Evola
Apparently individualism and traditionalism = Nazi, wow, great job
>Nick Land
A bizzaro philosopher, not explicitly political
>Jordan Peterson
Literally publicly bows down to Jews and their plight

[Anonymous No.11201561]

>>11199641
Enter the best book on the subject in existence.

[Anonymous No.11201566]

>>11199663
>>>/trash/

[Anonymous No.11201658]

Flags pretty aesthetic tbqh

[Anonymous No.11202590]

>>11199641
Hitler was inspired by the destruction of Native American tribes, American eugenicists, Harvard Football Songs... He considered the Nazi race laws to be more "honest" versions of Jim Crow laws.

[Anonymous No.11202620]

Georges Bataille's On Nietzsche, when he explained some of the thought that lead to the nazi's its clearly still around today.

[Anonymous No.11202623]

>>11200053
It's true to Hegel's phenomenology of spirit, they painstakingly made sure not to contradict him and used his own words as often as possible.

[Anonymous No.11202640]

>>11200779
>Jordan Peterson
Hated by white supremacists.
>Nick Land
No white supremacists knows that name.
>Julius Evola
No white supremacists has opened his books.
>Yukio Mishima
Not even white.
>Ayn Rand
A Jew who disagrees with white supremacists on all points.

Try again sweetie.

[Anonymous No.11202651]

>>11200779
no one is getting payed to post on /lit/

[Anonymous No.11203142]

>>11202651
I am
Well I'm posting this while sitting in the toilet at work which is pretty much the same thing
I'm not even pooing

[Anonymous No.11203156]

>>11202640
>>Julius Evola
>No white supremacists has opened his books.
Okay that's bullshit. Traditionalist inclined /pol/ fags make at least 10 threads a day asking for /lit/s opinion on Evola

[Anonymous No.11203161]

>>11203156
And zero of them have actually read them, also the number of actual white supremacists is pretty low on /pol/.

[Anonymous No.11203190]

>>11203161
Who are the white supremacists then.

[Anonymous No.11203197]

>>11203161
>the number of actual white supremacists is pretty low on /pol/.
I sincerely do not believe you at all, or believe you know what you're talking about anymore.

[Anonymous No.11203254]

>>11203190
>Who are the white supremacists then.
People who believe that the white race is supreme to all other races.
You can not really accept that IQ has anything to do with how decent a nation (or other group of people) is and proclaim the white race to be supreme above all others at the same time.

>>11203197
>I sincerely do not believe you at all, or believe you know what you're talking about anymore.
Certainly more people on /pol/ want racial segregation not whites reigning supreme in a neo-colonial empire.
"White supremacists" are people who believe that white people are better then all others, of course people like that exist on /pol/, but most simply want nothing to do with other races.
For example the Ashkenazi Jews (or some Asian nations) have an average IQ significantly higher then whites, so believing that IQ determines the success of a group of people to some extent (which is a very prevalent thing on /pol/) and that whites are better then all others is contradictory.

[Anonymous No.11203374]

>>11199641
they're one and the same lol

[Anonymous No.11203383]

There is an interesting book called Three New Deals that addresses much of the similarity and compatibility between The New Deal and Nazi Germany. But if you are after a sensationalist "America tha nu nazis!!!!' it s the wrong book for you as it also details the way they are irreconcilable, the main aim of the book is dispelling the idea that America and Germany represented polar opposites during WW2 with nothing in common.

[Anonymous No.11203411]

>>11200779
>being paid to post stuff on the slowest board
Please kill thineself

[Anonymous No.11203437]

>>11203254
>People who believe that the white race is supreme to all other races.
That would be all of them, then?

[Anonymous No.11203443]

>>11203437
>>People who believe that the white race is supreme to all other races.
>That would be all of them, then?
On /pol/?
No, you really can't be a "race realist" and believe hat at the same time.

[Anonymous No.11203480]

>>11203443
There isn't a person on Earth who doesn't believe in 'white privilege' or 'white colonialism' or 'superior white genes' or some combination of above. By your definition everybody on Earth is a white supremacist.

[Anonymous No.11203507]

>>11203480
What are you talking about?
What else is a "white supremacists" then a person who believes the white race is supreme?

>'white privilege'
Does not imply the white race to be supreme.

>'white colonialism'
Implies temporal supremacy in military over other nations, but clearly whites have been beaten by non whites in some wars.

>'superior white genes'
Incompatible with race realism.
Clearly the white IQ is not supreme to the Ashkenazi IQ.

[Anonymous No.11203539]

>>11203507
>What else is a "white supremacists" then a person who believes the white race is supreme?
Name me a black or liberal who doesn't believe whitey is bringin' them down in every facet of their life. (I'll get comfy while waiting.)

> Does not imply the white race to be supreme.
Really now? Then what does it imply?

[Anonymous No.11203552]

>>11203539
>Name me a black or liberal who doesn't believe whitey is bringin' them down in every facet of their life. (I'll get comfy while waiting.)
You didn't answer the question.
Define "white supremacists".

>Really now? Then what does it imply?
Some shit about historical oppression post colonialism and whitey bringing the kangz down through slavery.
Also this is entirely irrelevant, since supreme means better then ALL.

[Anonymous No.11203796]