/sffg/ - Science Fiction and Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.11188458]

Fucking shills edition.

FANTASY
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SCIENCE FICTION
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SF&F author listing with ratings and summaries:
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Previous Threads:
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[Anonymous No.11188466]

>>11188458
>ada palmer
Well at least you tried to not have shit taste I guess...

[Anonymous No.11188467]

First for litRPG deserves to be welded inside a steel box and sunk in the Marianas trench.

[Anonymous No.11188473]

Third for monthly reading.

If you read in English, make sure your version is the 2011 translation.
Download: https://share.soupwhale.com/bibliotik/files/Solaris%20-%20Stanislaw%20Lem/

[Anonymous No.11188522]

Best sci-fi novel ever is The Dispossessed. prove me wrong

[Anonymous No.11188535]

>>11188522
If you are an anarchist maybe.
But if not it's mediocre bat best.

[Anonymous No.11188542]

>>11188535
thankfully i am an anarchist

t. no pasaran

[Anonymous No.11188548]

>>11188522
watch it shevek!

[Anonymous No.11188570]

Fave sci-fi that doesn't involve our solar system at all?

[Anonymous No.11188576]

>>11188570
Your mom’s pussy. We’re still trying to explore its unfathomable depths

[Anonymous No.11188591]

>>11188570
Left hand of darkness, the one with the dogs(aliens), speerker for the dead, are what pops to mind.
Not sure about favourite from them.

[Anonymous No.11188595]

11th for Perrin is a pussy

[Anonymous No.11188606]

>>11188458
I am not a contrarian and frequently love books that /lit/ despises, but I really really _________hate_________ Sarah J. Maas, couldn't even finish the first book, no clue how it was published. It's the sort of book that you can fucking tell exactly what message the author is trying to convey, giving zero regard to the actual characters or story involved in the scenarios

[Anonymous No.11188614]

>>11188452
is the intellectual property drizzt?

>>11188595
do explain

[Anonymous No.11188654]

How bad are the WoW books? I played for a while and enjoy some of the characters. Looking for some fun elves and orcs kinda fantasy but if the writing is really bad i wont make be able to read it. Burnt out on the grim dark shit after GoT and black company, blade itself, etc looks like more of the same. Any recs?

[Anonymous No.11188671]

>>11188606
Wow anon, don't you know she graduated magna cum laude?

[Anonymous No.11188679]

>>11188570
Fifth Head of Cerberus. I've not read that many desu.

[Anonymous No.11188705]

Are the warhammer books good? i'm thinking about reading the ciaphas cain series

[Anonymous No.11188717]

I wrote some short stories, snippets really, for my ttrpg far flung future posthuman setting I’ll probably end up trying to write books for someday, id like to know what you guys think of them. I wrote about 90% of them, other anons did the rest

https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/59829402/#59829402

[Anonymous No.11188722]

>>11188705
Cain is good, also check out the Eisenhorn/Ravenor books for CSI: Imperium.

[Anonymous No.11188723]

>>11188654
I just wanted to take a look at the Arthas book, but turns out I don't have it anymore. Honestly, the only thing I remember is the scene where the horse dies, so it probably wasn't that great.

I bought it years ago because I got stuck at a train station, but I did finish it later on. It felt a lighter read than most books that I usually read, but that may just be the German translation. Might be a trend for things aimed at a younger audience.

[Anonymous No.11188732]

>>11188614
His girl beats him

[Anonymous No.11188738]

>>11188705
Cain is a pale imitation of Flashman.

[Anonymous No.11188765]

>>11188738
Flashman doesn't have a chainsaw sword, so i think cain is a clear winner

[Anonymous No.11188967]

can i gets some pulp recommendations?

[Anonymous No.11188969]

>>11188723
Thanks mang. Did you read any others?

[Anonymous No.11188989]

>>11188967
What have you read?

[Anonymous No.11189019]

>>11188969
Nope. Can only relay from /tg/ that Golden seems to be their best writer.

[Anonymous No.11189100]

>>11188705
they vary wildly depending on the author, but the Cain books are fun

[Anonymous No.11189268]

Can't wait to wake up in the morning to go read the books again.
Have to sleep now.

[Anonymous No.11189293]

ttl was not amazing
great worldbuilding but not amazing

[Anonymous No.11189312]

>>11188967
Bloodstone by Karl Edward Wagner

[Anonymous No.11189315]

>>11188614
>Is it drizzt
Yes. That's clearly fucking him but with titties

[Anonymous No.11189617]

>>11189315
I just started reading some YA called the royal bastards
>white girls father is lord and she has a half brother from the mother
>lord father marries some other lady and has 3 girls
>mc girl becomes illegitimate bastard
>king who is a nigger rules over all the lands
>nigger kings brother is super mage
>super nigger mage and nigger princess come to visit the lord to make sure he bends the knee
>nigger princess is supposedly most beautiful person ever
>sits at the bastards table at a big feast shocking everyone
>poor little white bastard who likes mc girl is a loser
>some other random nigger from warrior tribe enters
>mc girl thinks warrior nigger is super hot
I think im only 50 or so pages in but im pretty sure this is a nu male cuck fantasy.......

[Anonymous No.11189646]

>>11189617
wew

[Anonymous No.11189648]

>>11188967
Elric of Melniboné

[Anonymous No.11189653]

>>11189617
>the royal bastards

>>"Jon Snow won't be the only 'bastard' whose name readers will remember."
>-Entertainment Weekly

>Beginning of description:
Being a bastard blows. Tilla would know.

pic related

[Anonymous No.11189689]

>>11189617
>It's not even written by a woman
So this is what it feels like to have your world views challenged

[Anonymous No.11189693]

>>11189617
>Main character becomes illegitimate bastard
...that isn’t how that works, like at all

[Anonymous No.11189700]

>>11189617
I’d make fun of you but I can’t even bring myself to do it. Stop reading young adult, that is all

[Anonymous No.11189728]

>>11189693
It happened to Mary and Elizabeth.

[Anonymous No.11189746]

Humble book Bundle has a lotta sci-fi writers. Did anyone pirate the book bundle?

[Anonymous No.11189755]

>>11189728
That still makes no sense in the context of the story. You’re giving an example of someone being declared illegitimate so that a male could be declared rightful heir. The guy just said the dude had 3 other daughters, so it wouldn’t make sense to do that

[Anonymous No.11189760]

>>11189746
>pirating a Humble Bundle
What is wrong with you?

[Anonymous No.11189775]

>>11189746
The only worthwhile authors on there are Harlan Ellison, Piers Anthony and Octavia Butler, but it's nothing good of theirs. If you want to read them, I'd pirate The City on the Edge of Forever by Ellison, the Xanth series by Anthony (though it's hit or miss and fantasy, not sci-fi), and Patternmaster by Butler (the book, only read the rest of the series if you really want the backstory developed)

[Anonymous No.11189778]

>>11189760
>$20 for the full list
>half aren't available in my region
wtf

[Anonymous No.11189788]

>>11189746
The Female Man
>Four alternate selves from radically different realities come together in this "dazzling" and "trailblazing work" (The Washington Post). Widely acknowledged as Joanna Russ's masterpiece, The Female Man is the suspenseful, surprising, darkly witty, and boldly subversive chronicle of what happens when Jeannine, Janet, Joanna, and Jaelall living in parallel worldsmeet. Librarian Jeannine is waiting for marriage in a past where the Depression never ended, Janet lives on a utopian Earth with an all-female population, Joanna is a feminist in the 1970s, and Jael is a warrior with claws and teeth on an Earth where male and female societies are at war with each other. When the four women begin traveling to one another's worlds, their preconceptions on gender and identity are forever challenged. With "palpable anger ... leavened by wit and humor" (The New York Times), Russ both employs and upends genre conventions to deliver a wickedly satiric and exhilarating version of when worlds collide and women get woke.

[Anonymous No.11189794]

>>11189746
Humble bumble has books?

[Anonymous No.11189798]

>>11189778
Seriously?

Where are you at anon. Greece? I'll pay so you can pirate the full bundle later if you want the titles.

[Anonymous No.11189803]

>>11189794
I know, right? Humble bundle had a decent porn comic bundle a while back ago.
https://www.humblebundle.com/books/super-nebula-2018-books?hmb_source=humble_home&hmb_medium=product_tile&hmb_campaign=mosaic_section_1_layout_index_3_layout_type_twos_tile_index_2

[Anonymous No.11189809]

>>11189798
Nah there is only like 4 or so unavailable and I don't care that much. I have a shit ton to read already with out buying books from humble.
I am pic related.

[Anonymous No.11189814]

>>11189809
8 not available rather.

[Anonymous No.11189815]

>>11189798
>not pirating everything and then buying copies of those you finish

[Anonymous No.11189841]

>>11189815
That's smart.

Researched Kindle's policies a while ago. And I'll have to read to 20% to give kindle authors a royalty payment. But I planned to do that with the LNs I read fan Translations of anyway.

>>11189809
Alright. No problem. Have fun with your backlog.

[Anonymous No.11189879]

>can't find castle of the otter download

[Anonymous No.11189886]

Post whatever you're reading and what you like about it so far.

I like how there is a surprise to many of the book's jokes. There is a side character who is an Hindu Indian. And she calls herself Tonto.

[Anonymous No.11189918]

>>11189886
Read the first few when I was in middle/high school and bingeing on fantasy and romance. When I heard the last books were getting published at once, I figured I'd finish it for old times sake.

The main characters are, by book 9, OP mary sues/gary stus, and I hate them both, but I almost think the author has accounted for that because the ending seems to be legitimately building towards the world ending and the author has said it's far from a happy ending. So I like that I get to watch the shitty star-crossed lover characters from my youth being ripped apart and failing at protecting the world.

[Anonymous No.11189995]

>>11189886
Destroyermen series book 10

Feels more like a chore but I wanna finish the series. I'm committed.

[Anonymous No.11190030]

>>11189886
I've been putting of reading this since I received it as a gift for christmas. In part because it's long and in part because of high expectations and fear of disappointment. Now I'm 1/4 finished and it's great. The prose is great, the characters feel alive and are interesting and there is a feeling of magic and spirituality over the book. An early chapter, a dream sequence, surprisingly reminded me of the Latro books, change, time and aspects of deities is a strong theme.

[Anonymous No.11190450]

>>11189886
Sci-fi thriller whose concept is 3D printing designer drugs. The pace is quick, most of the characterization is good, I like the prose. Thanks to the anon who recommended Daryl Gregory. I'm sure I'll read more of his books.

>>11190030
Give us an update when you finish? Personally, I dropped it about halfway through.

[Anonymous No.11190455]

>>11188705

Ciaphas Cain is like Yossarian's Adventures in Space. Highly enjoyable.

[Anonymous No.11190477]

So how is Little Finger going to worm his way out of the one year deal he made with the Royces? I think he'll try and bring Aegon's war to the Vale so they hopefully in his eyes get carted off and die in the war.

[Anonymous No.11190509]

>>11188570
Dune or Lord of Light for science fantasy, A Fire Upon the Deep for "real" sci-fi.

[Anonymous No.11190512]

>>11190030

I read this and the Once and Future King in high school and remember liking both. I reread King recently for the first time in a decade and it's one of my favorite books of all time. I want to give Mists another run through, but from what I remember, it was feminist literature done right.

[Anonymous No.11190526]

>>11188458
What are the best Hugo Awards winners? Recent or not.

[Anonymous No.11190581]

>>11190526
See >>11190509

[Anonymous No.11190585]

>>11190526
My friend rates that obelisk gate series. She is a >she though so ymmv
Dune won so that's up there
I think I have seen people talking about ringworld here so that maybe?
Blue mars has won so that
I have seen people talk about American gods here but I think they said it was a let down and a shit show but I may be confused there

[Anonymous No.11190590]

>>11188458
I liked all of the Prince of Thorns series
Would I like Mark Lawrence's new series?

[Anonymous No.11190608]

Alright well I dipped into a little of everything but apparently all I want to read is Ender shit. So I guess I'll read Children of the Mind and then it's onto the Shadow stuff.

[Anonymous No.11190990]

I'm planning to make a modern read chart tomorrow hopefully (if I can give a fug). Stay tuned.

[Anonymous No.11191089]

>>11190585
>obelisk gate
I didna like

[Anonymous No.11191162]

>>11190585
American gods isnt a let down people on this general are mostly just bottom barrel scum of the earth who couldn’t grasp deeper meaning without someone spoon feeding them half the time
>exhibit A: half this board needs someone to explain half the shit in book of the new sun because it’s 2deep4u

[Anonymous No.11191189]

>>11188654
I read the wow archive like 10 years ago

day of the dragon and the last guardian were dull

lord of the clans and of blood and honor were okay iirc

[Anonymous No.11191191]

>>11189803
do you have a link

[Anonymous No.11191194]

>>11191189
warcraft archive, whatever

[Anonymous No.11191227]

I'm reading Temeraire at the moment and the first book at least is quite cute. :)

[Anonymous No.11191238]

Just finished the second book of Three Body Problem, The Dark Forest, and holy fuck that ending
I thought this book was a lot stronger than Three Body Problem, which I already really liked but a lot of its charm for me came from that out-of-left-field twist about the whole thing being ayylmaos
This one was a lot more emotional and told a great story
Both with TBP during the description of the sophon lock on physics research and TDF with the Droplet fucking annihilating the entire fleet made me feel actually physically ill, like putting the human race in chastity
I absolutely loved the ending conversation between the Tri-Solarans and Luo, felt high-stakes but also kind of friendly, like old friends (or adversaries)
I did think this book was a bit more predictable with its plot points though, aside from all the Wallfacers' plans which were always thoroughly entertaining to hear getting revealed
From the title of the book alone I knew they were going to hit the allegory of the dark forest for galactic civilizations and I knew exactly how the "spell" was going to work, although that might just be my prior knowledge ruining the twist
Though I don't really know where they're going to go from here in the next book, seems like everything is wrapped up pretty nicely
All in all though one hell of a story, I absolutely loved it

[Anonymous No.11191319]

>>11191227
>Temeraire
I liked the first and want to read more. I hear the series is uneven in quality tho. It also inspired me to reread Dragonflight.

[Anonymous No.11191445]

>>11191238
I often wondered if it's written better or just translated more faithfully, as it's the only title translated by Joel Martinsen and not Ken Liu.

>I don't really know where they're going to go from here in the next book
They go fucking bonkers, mate. There's a lot to Death's End.

[Anonymous No.11191516]

>>11191162
I thoroughly enjoyed it, but I've heard a lot of people call it slow paced, which is certainly true.

[Anonymous No.11191517]

>>11190526
Ada Palmer's Terra Ignota series is the only consistently good one I've tried so far. Solid premise, great plot and great prose.

>N. K. Jemisin's Broken Earth
Last book is average which is shame as the rest of the books are very good. Nassun is a super cute loli.

>Yoon Ha Lee
These books start out quite heterosexually but are definitely targetted towards /cm/fags like myself.

First book is great. Second book is dumbed down. Third book looks like it's better than the second book from the 70%ish you can read from the google books preview -- it's not released yet but I'm unhappy that Jedao didn't get together with either Kujen for /y/ or Cheris (main girl) and instead got it with some literal random introduced in the last book and then gets NTR'd

>Ancillary Justice
Read the first book and not the rest, the rest are fun but never live up to the first. It's lots of tea drinking.

I feel that a lot of the best scifi books are older, before authors with one book plot got asked to write more books in a series.

[Anonymous No.11191542]

>>11191238

Three Body Problem worth reading especially if you're a fan of Legend of the Galactic Heroes? Heard the author was a huge fan of the series and even credits it so I'm just curious how it is in terms of political intrigue and world building.

[Anonymous No.11191567]

>>11190526
Dune, Left Hand of Darkness, Dispossessed, Hyperion, Lord of Light, Starship Troopers, Forever War, Canticle for Leibowitz, Green/Blue Mars, Man in the High Castle, Rendezvous with Rama, Strange&Norrell

[Anonymous No.11191644]

>>11191516
I think everyone can agree Nancy Lads is a better book

[Anonymous No.11191663]

>>11191542
It's almost purely intrigue and world building. Hell, those two things are the cornerstones of the wallfacer project!

[Anonymous No.11191664]

>>11188738
They're for the most part similar, but the key difference I think is that Cain, despite his cowardice, is still mostly a good person whereas Flashman is a scoundrel in ever sense of the word.

[Anonymous No.11191787]

>>11190030
>Give us an update when you finish
Sure.

>>11190512
I'm planning to read Once and Future King later this year.

>feminist literature done right
It's only really feminist in the sense that it's a book featuring a cast of strong woman characters (done right). The most political statement I've come across yet is Morgan telling Merlin that maybe he should treat women better after he claim that every woman is shit tier compared to his harp lmao.

[Anonymous No.11191791]

>>11190990
Inb4 shitstorm

[Anonymous No.11191798]

>>11191517
>Hugo Award Winners
Too Like the Lightning lost to N. K. Jemisin and the other books in the series were not even nominated which is a shame.

[Anonymous No.11191803]

>contrarians hating on Throne of Glass
>Give it a try
>It's actually good

[Anonymous No.11191806]

>>11191798
It's a real shame. Palmer is a much better author in my opinion.

[Anonymous No.11191807]

>>11191791
Inb4 Stormshit Archives

[Anonymous No.11191816]

>>11188458
Nth for Sanderhack a fag

[Anonymous No.11191820]

>>11191803
teenage girl spotted

[Anonymous No.11191828]

>>11191542
It's got both of those in spades, in fact, it quotes Yang Wenli at once point, no joke

[Anonymous No.11191829]

>>11191828
How's the remake by the way?

[Anonymous No.11191911]

Is John Brunner any good?
I remember hearing very good things about him.

[Anonymous No.11191929]

I know I'm going to get hate for this, but does anyone know any good Star Wars novels? Ideally stuff that doesn't connect to the movies or plays off of existing characters. I've already tried most of the novels that tie into the KotOR stuff, so I know that. But is there anything else? I don't want to go back to read about Luke and Thrawn and shit, and I also don't want stuff that "technically" takes place in Star Wars universe but has nothing to do with the Force or the Jedi/Sith. Is there any series that's a new timeline in the same way KotOR was? Again, it can even be fanfic if it's good, canon means nothing to me.
Don't judge me for this...

[Anonymous No.11192015]

>>11188473
Is it too late to jump on to this? Approximately how far in is everybody?

[Anonymous No.11192017]

>>11192015
I'm done. It's only 200 odd pages and you have about 2/3rds of a month to finish it.

[Anonymous No.11192018]

>>11192015
>Approximately how far in is everybody
We generally don't have much ongoing discussion so as long as you're able to finish before the 11th there's enough time.

[Anonymous No.11192025]

Anyone read any of The Expanse books? I really liked Leviathan Wakes and Calibans War was nice. Abaddons Gate and Cibola Burn didn't catch on me as well as the first two, but I just started Nemesis Games and it seems a bit better, at least fron the start.

[Anonymous No.11192068]

>>11192025
Stoped at Abaddon's gate. Excellent action tebehe, good snappy dialogue, fun series overall. too bad those fags killed the much better show

[Anonymous No.11192372]

>>11189788
Sounds dumb

[Anonymous No.11192377]

>>11190590
I liked Prince of fools don’t know about the new one.

[Anonymous No.11192409]

Broken Angels

[Anonymous No.11192431]

>>11189788
>>11192372
I read it as part of a list. It's not suspenseful or subversive, but it does have palpable anger. It's probably great if you are a seventies woke woman.

[Anonymous No.11192434]

>>11192025
>>11192068
I think I also stopped at Abaddon's Gate but I'm not sure. They introduced some female ninja-type character and that's when I realized they have no real story and they're milking their success for all its worth. While I might put up with Black Library's filler crap, I don't particularly like the setting of these books and the characters are totally unlikable apart from Bobby, so I stopped.
The show was a lot more cohesive but I'm not sure I'd say it's better. Maybe it would've stayed more focused longterm than the books managed to do.

[Anonymous No.11192467]

>>11192431
I'm surprised you survived.

[Anonymous No.11192515]

>>11189841
>Researched Kindle's policies a while ago. And I'll have to read to 20% to give kindle authors a royalty payment.
What does this even mean? Like if I buy a book and don't read at least 20%, the authors don't get money?

[Anonymous No.11192529]

>>11188967
Spellscribed
Waldo Rabbit (I recommend this one)
The Trysmoon Saga (if you are feeling particularly bleak and don't mind some mild cucking. Also there's milf pussy).
The sorcerer's path

[Anonymous No.11192544]

>>11188967
Anything from Black Library, especially Night Lords trilogy.
>inb4 warhammer lmao
They're actually really great. I got into it without ever playing the game in my life.

[Anonymous No.11192644]

How can two books that came out around the same time have the exact same plot and terminology?
http://www.sfgateway.com/books/f/forging-of-the-shadows,-the/

This is literally game of thrones. The first game of thrones book came out in 1996 and the forging of the shadows in 1997.

[Anonymous No.11192648]

>>11192644
How is that even remotely the same plot, you mongoloid? Have you even read Game of Thrones?

[Anonymous No.11192651]

>>11191929
I don't know about star wars anon, but Leigh Brackett was a very good author who worked on the screenplay for the empire strikes back. Check her out.

[Anonymous No.11192656]

>>11192648
Read you fucking imbecile. It's even called the LIGHTBRINGER trilogy.

[Anonymous No.11192665]

>>11192656
I did. How is it related?

[Anonymous No.11192675]

Can someone identify this book? I only know it is fantasy

[Anonymous No.11192681]

>>11192665
>the sun is in danger of being forever extinguished
This is the long night.
>the worshippers of the god of light
those are the worshipers of the lord of light
>servants of the eternal night
Those are the servants of the night king, the white walkers
>three unsuspecting travellers called by prophecy to face a legion of the undead
Those are the three heads of the dragon, the three manifestations of azor ahai going to face the white walkers.

Even the title has Lightbringer in it, which is the name of azor ahai's sword.

[Anonymous No.11192698]

>>11192681
>This is the long night.
It's not, though. The sun isn't extinguished in ASoIaF. Not only that, but this is just generic. Do you realize how many stories use that?
>those are the worshipers of the lord of light
>Those are the servants of the night king, the white walkers
Again, just typical fantasy crap. Light/Dark dichotomy. Not hard to come up with. Not to mention that in ASoIaF the LoL isn't "good" and the WW aren't "bad".
>Those are the three heads of the dragon, the three manifestations of azor ahai going to face the white walkers.
Again, three is a common number. You know what else has a three in it? Countless things. Including, you know, THE TRINITY. Even most novels have three main protagonists.
>Even the title has Lightbringer in it, which is the name of azor ahai's sword.
Again, typical fantasy crap.
You're looking for signs where there are none. ASoIaF itself is completely unoriginal and the whole point is that he's using cliches and turning them on their head (at least, that's the idea, he doesn't always do that). This sounds to you like it's similar because fucking any person could've come up with it. Not to mention that this is the background conflict in ASoIaF (assuming it's even a real one), and not what you're reading about 99% of the time.

[Anonymous No.11192749]

What are the chances of four fantasy cliches coinciding with each other, all while each one of them had almost the same name when mentioned in the other book?
When grrm makes references to someone else he does so openly. I'm getting the feeling that this is the case here too. Either grrm was influenced by this guy or they were friends.

[Anonymous No.11192774]

>>11191445
I think it's a translation issue. There were several spots in 3BP where word choice or sentence structure seemed "clunky" in a way that screamed "bad translation". Also, Ken Liu said somewhere (in a foreword?) that he tried to preserve the "Chineseness" of some of the prose in 3BP.

Dark Forest didn't have those problems, and in fact neither does Death's End even though Ken Liu did the translation for that too. I suspect that Ken Liu ditched his efforts to convey the spirit of Chinese prose or whatever when he did Death's End, it doesn't have any of the problems of 3BP in that regard.

[Anonymous No.11192793]

>>11192515
I think he's talking about Kindle Unlimited books.

[Anonymous No.11192800]

>>11191807
Naw. my other charts have those already.
It's going to be a "fun" chart.

[Anonymous No.11192833]

>>11190990
>>11192800
If only there were anything apart from Tolkien and Wolfe worth reading. I guess Martin and Bakker are somewhat acceptable.

[Anonymous No.11192837]

Why do you guys read such shit

[Anonymous No.11192839]

>>11192656
>Lightbringer
now that's just a dumb idea because there is already that Weeks series called Lightbringer

[Anonymous No.11192841]

>>11192837
I wonder the same. I only come here to shitpost, but I'm amazed by the sort of stuff people put themselves through.
>reading Rothfuss and Sanderson unironically
I shudder at the thought.

[Anonymous No.11192843]

>>11192837
>>11192841
(you)

[Anonymous No.11192844]

Finished The Way of Kings in a day. Is it worth reading the rest or does the quality go downhill like most fantasy?

[Anonymous No.11192845]

>>11192844
>reading Sanderson
>does the sewer lead anywhere but down
Yeah, it goes down.

[Anonymous No.11192846]

>>11192833
>If only there were anything apart from Tolkien and Wolfe worth reading.
Swanwick is very legit. (I've burned out a bit on Wolfe recently; there's too much boomerish limp-wristedness and inability to make a genuine stand in him.)

>I guess Martin and Bakker are somewhat acceptable.
Please kill yourself ASAP. These writers are the trash of the trash.

[Anonymous No.11192856]

>>11192845
I thought it was fun

[Anonymous No.11192858]

>>11192529
>Spellscribed
>The sorcerer's path
How good are those two? Would you recommend them? Goodreads blurbs not looking too nice. But I LOVED these two:
>Waldo Rabbit
>The Trysmoon Saga
And their blurbs didn't look too good either.

[Anonymous No.11192859]

>>11192841
Vance>GRRM>Lawrence>Sanderson>Rothfuss>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Jordan

[Anonymous No.11192863]

>>11192846
>Swanwick
Never heard of him. What do I read?
>Please kill yourself ASAP. These writers are the trash of the trash.
They're not though. Bakker's prose is masterful, and Martin is great at characterization. It's certainly better than most of what's mentioned on here.
What exactly do you have against them? And I want in-depth reasons not "lol trash".

[Anonymous No.11192865]

Maas>Vance>GRRM>Lawrence>Sanderson>Rothfuss>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Jordan*

[Anonymous No.11192868]

>>11192856
keep reading it, if you enjoyed it, you'll enjoy the others, especially if you like shallan

[Anonymous No.11192870]

>>11192859
I started the WoT but it was too generic for me to go on. I don't think Sanderson, Lawrence, and Rothfuss are good at all. Especially Rothfuss. He's fucking cringy. May Allah forgive me for saying this, but even Erikson is better.

[Anonymous No.11192904]

>>11192833
>Tolkien
>worth reading

[Anonymous No.11192906]

>>11192863
>Never heard of him. What do I read?
Start with a "best of" short story collection.

>Bakker's prose is masterful,
Irrelevant. That's like praising an artist because he has 'masterful' brush strokes.

> and Martin is great at characterization.
"Lol rape" and "lol shades of gray" is the opposite of great characterization.

> What exactly do you have against them? And I want in-depth reasons not "lol trash".
Fantastic literature is a literature of ideas, especially religious ones. Every half-decent fantastic work must be theological in nature. Bakker and Martin don't rise above a teenager's understanding of religion.

[Anonymous No.11192910]

>>11192904
What did you not enjoy about Lynch?
Although, to be honest, I didn't like it that much myself either, although I enjoyed the humor. The quality deteriorated after book 1. But I can't say it's much worse than some of the shit that gets recommended on here.

[Anonymous No.11192911]

>>11192859
Stop forcing Vance, no one gives a fuck

[Anonymous No.11192913]

>>11192904
> low-quality bait
> worth posting
Have a dollar-store discount (You).

[Anonymous No.11192918]

>>11192906
>especially religious ones. Every half-decent fantastic work must be theological in nature. Bakker and Martin don't rise above a teenager's understanding of religion.
Bible thumper philosophers need to vacate the thread immediately.

[Anonymous No.11192927]

>>11192918
Most sci-fi is gnostic or pagan trash, yet that doesn't make it less religious, you nigger.

[Anonymous No.11192928]

>>11192906
Fuck off outerlit

[Anonymous No.11192935]

>>11192918
Don't you have a "what edition of the Bible should I read" thread to shitpost in you pretentious twat?

[Anonymous No.11192937]

>>11192913
Tolkien and Vance are shit though.

[Anonymous No.11192940]

>>11192913
>if it doesn't agree with me it is bait
neck thy self

[Anonymous No.11192941]

>>11192928
> defending George "rape masturbator" Martin unironically

[Anonymous No.11192946]

>>11192865
Chill out Sarah we all despise Jordan, Rothfuck and Sanderhack here

[Anonymous No.11192952]

>>11192937
We're having a fight!

[Anonymous No.11192957]

>>11188467
So what litRPG should i read? I am running out of Chinese and korean webnovels.

[Anonymous No.11192965]

>>11192863
>Swanwick
Probably iron dragon's daughter

[Anonymous No.11192963]

>>11192937
>>11192904


Ayyy, I also thought the dying earth was horrible.

[Anonymous No.11192969]

>>11192906
>Fantastic literature is a literature of idea
I wonder who is behind this post....

[Anonymous No.11192973]

>>11192941
Gurm is caught in the vortex of the success of a series he doesn't like all that much and will never finish, probably annoyed his other work gets ignored. You're still a major cocksucker.

[Anonymous No.11192979]

>>11192906
>"Lol rape" and "lol shades of gray" is the opposite of great characterization.
Just admit you've never read anything by Martin.

[Anonymous No.11192980]

>>11192965
>zealots
Add Empress by Miller

[Anonymous No.11192983]

>>11192957
Emerilia
Everybody loves large chests
Gamer for life/alpha world

[Anonymous No.11192985]

>>11192957
Way of the Shaman series

[Anonymous No.11192988]

>>11192980
LOL you know that is what I was planning to add under zealot with another one when I made that chart (last year? Year before the last?) but I forgot because I didn't make a list beforehand.

[Anonymous No.11192991]

>>11192965
>>11192980
To expand, it's about a loli who is picked up to be sold as a slave, but thinks she's being saved. Then gets angry when she learns the truth and is aided by invisible scorpion demons to kill and rape her way to ruling an arabian desert cult fixated on spilling human blood.
though the next two books have her as the distant villain and IMO weren't anywhere near as good

[Anonymous No.11193002]

>>11192991
So she's opposite gender fantasy Paul Atreides?

[Anonymous No.11193025]

>>11193002
Very loosely. She's not specially bred, she's just some girl in the desert who didn't learn to read and can barely speak. And she's not doing anything for a higher purpose, she's just a shitty person who wants to prove to the world that she's precious to the fake god which feeds on suffering. The whole book is just setting her up as the villain for the rest of the trilogy.

[Anonymous No.11193033]

>>11192906
>Irrelevant. That's like praising an artist because he has 'masterful' brush strokes.
Except that we actually do praise artists for their technique all the time - ever taken an art class? As for Bakker, yes, his form is impressive, and his content only suffers from bad characterization and a sluggish pace. The actual worldbuilding, the philosophy behind it, the story itself is all wonderful. It's so clear that you haven't even read the guy.
Especially since you say,
>Fantastic literature is a literature of ideas, especially religious ones. Every half-decent fantastic work must be theological in nature.
You have not read Bakker, so don't even pretend. He takes philosophical and religious ideas very seriously.
>"Lol rape" and "lol shades of gray" is the opposite of great characterization.
I don't think you know what characterization means. Not only is what you said wrong, but it has absolutely nothing to do with characterization. When it comes to third person limited, Martin is an absolute powerhouse. It only takes a few pages with a character to get in their head and understanding where they're coming from. I can't think of a single other author in fantasy that does this - he's peerless, and thus the success of his work. He's not that deep in terms of his philosophy, sure, but in terms of storytelling he's an absolute master. ASoIaF is woven from stories within stories, with thousands of characters with their own arcs and plotlines, over the course of years - and you're never confused about what's going on when you read him.

And here I was thinking you'd have something meaningful to say, when it turns out you're just a stupid child begging for attention that knows nothing about writing an has no appreciation for anything that meets his arbitrary standards.

[Anonymous No.11193034]

>>11193025
So she's The Mule. Sounds interesting, how's the prose, pacing and characters?

>implying Muad'dib isn't villainous

[Anonymous No.11193054]

>>11193034
Prose is divisive, though I personally loved it. The main character, as I said, can barely speak, and she remains that way through the entire book. So her speech is very direct and blunt. For example: "You think are smart? I know you are know. You are stupid." and "Stupid Vortka. You do not please the God. You are a stupid man." If you enjoy or can look past those speech quirks, and also long descriptions of pools of blood clotting and people swimming in blood and people draining blood, it's great.

The pacing is nice, and if you like Hekat, the main character, you'll enjoy it. There are other characters, especially later in the book when her children begin to age, but she is the focus, and if you don't like her, you'll never make it through.

[Anonymous No.11193056]

>>11193054
I know you are not.**

[Anonymous No.11193067]

>>11193033
The pacing is atrocious, the plot directionless and it will never be finished. He seems to have lost the point somewhere between the 2nd and 3rd book. I agree about the characters though.

[Anonymous No.11193069]

>>11193034
can be edgy too, if you're into that

[Anonymous No.11193094]

>>11193067
>The pacing is atrocious
I disagree.
>the plot directionless
That's literally not true. What are you implying, that it doesn't have an ending in mind? Or what?
>and it will never be finished
I truly couldn't care less. In fact, I hope it doesn't finish, because I know I won't like his ending.
>He seems to have lost the point somewhere between the 2nd and 3rd book. I agree about the characters though.
Brainlet opinion. The first book is pretty weak, and the second is good. The third is where it all comes together into greatness. The fourth has Jaime's arc, which is incredible. Four and five are slower only because worldbeing is at work and he's setting up new things.
I had the same opinion as you back when I was a teenager, but since I've grown to appreciate the fourth and fifth a lot.

[Anonymous No.11193096]

>>11193069
Looks like Mark Lawrence trying to rewrite the Old Testament but with actual skill. Will defo try

[Anonymous No.11193110]

>>11193094
Oh, and not to mention the writing in the fifth book especially is waaaaaaay above and beyond what came before. It's fucking great. The opening Tyrion chapter breaks all the rules of "leaving a character alone," yet it's incredibly intense simply because Martin has gotten so good at speaking through his characters. He manages to convey action only through thoughts alone, and switches between past and present with an ease that wasn't there before.

[Anonymous No.11193117]

>>11193094
I'm not the same guy

[Anonymous No.11193121]

>>11193117
I didn't think you were. It doesn't change anything.

[Anonymous No.11193129]

>>11193069
Is the relationship mother and son a big thing in this? I like stories where evil queens mindfuck their children/turn them into mindless tools.
Better be a head pat at some point though.

[Anonymous No.11193145]

>>11193129
The relationship between mother and son(s) is basically the point of the book. One is spoiled, one is considered trash, born from one of her god-assisted rapes. Then she turns them into warlords and fucks with them both mentally

[Anonymous No.11193146]

>>11193121
I disagree completely with everything but the characterisation and the "fuck the other guy" part.

[Anonymous No.11193156]

>>11192988
Really liked this book. Kinda wish it kept following Hekat instead of switching to boring not-England's princess.

[Anonymous No.11193165]

>>11193146
Well, fair enough. I'm personally very tired of people dissing Martin because he's popular, when he's clearly so much better than the majority of this epic fantasy YA-in-disguise crap that gets mentioned in this general.

[Anonymous No.11193167]

>>11193156
I hated that too. Zandakar and the occasional Vortka chapter carried the other two books

[Anonymous No.11193176]

>>11193167
I also liked the the Zchung or whatever they were called. The not-China wind witches. Pretty cool idea. But yeah, hard to beat the characterization of Vortka and Hekat. Vortka was especially moving because his own nature was so contrary to the evil god he served.

[Anonymous No.11193179]

>>11192988
I thought this was retard Casca.

[Anonymous No.11193184]

Finished Neuromancer. Gibson has to have autism.
Considering reading one of the following next
>Foundation
>Farenheit 451
>Brave New World
>A walk in hell (Turtledove's great war series - book 2)
>Moon is a harsh mistress
/sffg/ got any recommendations out of these on what to read next?

[Anonymous No.11193191]

>>11193176
Yeah, Vortka was a character I disliked at first, because I was really into Hekat's chapters, but as the story went on, and I began to sympathize with Zandakar and hate Dmitrak, I liked him more and more. The chapters in the final book where father and son finally meet were surprisingly touching.
It's also a shame that Miller's other stuff doesn't seem anywhere near as well done as these books.

[Anonymous No.11193192]

>>11193184
Children of Time

[Anonymous No.11193195]

>>11193184
Moon is a harsh mistress is the most entertaining of them all.
Faundarion if you want some good short storyes.

[Anonymous No.11193202]

>>11193184
Brave New World. Will be a nice getaway from Neuromancer, which is not an enjoyable read at all. Or Foundation if you like jumping around in space and time

[Anonymous No.11193206]

>>11192675
Please?

[Anonymous No.11193207]

>>11193192
>Published 2015
Does it avoid forced diversity?

[Anonymous No.11193210]

>>11193207
You're a fag for giving a shit but yes

[Anonymous No.11193220]

>>11193184
Moon is a Harsh Mistress is either going to piss you off or be very entertaining. If you hate it, don't read anything else Heinlein wrote.

You should read Foundation sometime, but you might find it too "autistic" as a chaser to Neuromancer.

Why are you even thinking about reading Turtledove.

Go with Brave New World.

[Anonymous No.11193224]

>>11193207
Yes, however it sucks.

[Anonymous No.11193226]

>>11193207
Fuck me Millennials and their bullshit is so annoying. I should know, I'm one of them.

[Anonymous No.11193235]

>I feel like this is the book I have been waiting for Sarah Rees Brennan to write, ever since I was refreshing her livejournal every week for updates to her Harry/Draco masterpiece. And it's no coincidence that I'm mentioning fanfiction right now, because- Wait. First. I want to make clear that what I am about to say is in no way a slight, in fact it's as complimentary as I know how to be, so just stick with me ok. Because In Other Lands reads a hell of a lot like fanfiction.

Are there any fantasy literature discords or anything that aren't full of this kind of redditor? For writers or readers or whatever, I don't care. This board is good for recs but pretty slow to discuss anything substantial beyond shitters like >>11193207 jumping for chances to insert politics.

[Anonymous No.11193245]

>>11193191
I actually read her Kingmaker, Kingbreaker duology before anything else of hers and I enjoyed it enough that I bothered to pick up her Godspeaker Trilogy. Granted I read KmKb when I was in high school so its tinged with nostalgia, but I found it imaginative and the characters likable and engaging. Though I would say that she has a tendency to write men as overly emotional.

[Anonymous No.11193246]

>>11193210
Not him, but, imo, diversity is fine, forced diversity is different. It's when you read a book and everything is on the nose about skin color and gender and how they're being included. It's like reading Octavia Butler's older works versus her newer works. Or Ursula K. Le Guin versus N.K. Jemisin.

The difference is making your point through the story in a way that makes the reader feel the way you do, not telling them how it is directly and having that be the focus of the story.

[Anonymous No.11193251]

>>11193246
>Octavia Butler's older works versus her newer works
Which are better? Older?

[Anonymous No.11193252]

>>11193165
I don't give a flying dragon shit how popular he is, I just don't like ASOIAF. His short fiction is much better, especially his horror, which is really effective and well done.

>gurm is better that Hackerson, Jordan, Erikson, Lawrence, Vance
I believe that goes without saying.

[Anonymous No.11193262]

>>11193251
Yes, her patternmaster series is the only thing I'd recommend by her

[Anonymous No.11193264]

>>11193145
>Then she turns them into warlords and fucks with them both mentally
Does she still give them hugs though?

[Anonymous No.11193273]

>>11193264
No, there are no hugs in the desert, anon, only fugs. and there is no incest, only deep seated mother issues

[Anonymous No.11193281]

>>11193251
Yeah.

>>11193246
One of my main complaints about a good chunk of Heinlein is exactly the way he shoves some of his political belief down your throat, especially when he makes cartoony morons out of his political oponents. On the other hand, you come out of a LeGuin novel unsure about what she agrees and disagrees with. Fuck the names she chose for her characters and places, no matter how good a character Shevek is I still feel like it's something you stepped in.

[Anonymous No.11193303]

>>11193252
He was at his best doing work for the Twilight Zone in the 80s

[Anonymous No.11193308]

>>11193273
Suppose I'll just have to keep looking for the perfect 'evil queen mum that still gives hugs' story.

[Anonymous No.11193317]

What are Robert Jordan's Conan stories like?

[Anonymous No.11193318]

>>11193308
Sounds like YOU need a hug from your mother. anon.

[Anonymous No.11193322]

>>11193308
Titus Andronicus, milf Jessica Lange in fetish gear in that really weird and great adaptation of it

[Anonymous No.11193331]

>>11193317
Very much like Conan the Barbarian( Howard) vs Conan the Destroyer(Jordan).

[Anonymous No.11193356]

>>11193318
She's not a queen.

[Anonymous No.11193386]

Reading The Dispossessed now and love it. What other Le Guin is worth reading other than Earthsea (not really interested in it at the moment)?

[Anonymous No.11193390]

>>11193386
Left Hand of Darkness is arguably her best book.

[Anonymous No.11193446]

>>11193054
Someone should breed this loli retard

[Anonymous No.11193451]

>>11193110
Imagine being this much of a brainlet

[Anonymous No.11193464]

>>11193451
>

[Anonymous No.11193504]

>>11193451
>unironically saying brainlet

[Anonymous No.11193511]

>>11193451
Yeah tell me about it

[Anonymous No.11193516]

Why the fuck do people have such a boner over this book?

Couldn't even get more than 50 pages in, it's so unimaginably dull.

[Anonymous No.11193604]

>>11192858
The sorcerer's path is a little bit generic, feels a bit like the cuck of the wind at the start (minus the cucking), but it is very long and I like to go back to it when I have nothing else to read. Overall, it isn't bad, and there's a couple of very good chapters in it. I haven't finished it yet and I've got no idea what I'm gonna default to after I do.
I've only read the first book of spellscribed, and I liked it. I recommend it for the barbarian bro.

You should feel bad for liking the trysmoon saga.

[Anonymous No.11193770]

>>11188458
Has anyone here finished reading Aspect-Emperor?

[Anonymous No.11193786]

>>11192856
I like it too. It's also the best book in the series. I would rate the books in the series in their order of publishing. 1>2>3

[Anonymous No.11193795]

>>11188473
Just finished it today. I really enjoyed all the obscurity on the other scientist's Visitors and the Giant Baby apparition.

[Anonymous No.11193802]

>>11192868
>If you like Shallan
Nobody likes that bitch. I read it for dalinar, szeth and my boy hoid. Also, i predict Vin venture will come back to life in book 8 or 9.

[Anonymous No.11193840]

>>11193245
>>11193191
>>11193176
>>11193167
>>11193156
>>11192988
Godspeaker was shit. I want to gut the anon/anons who shilled it to me years ago.

[Anonymous No.11193854]

>>11193840
>unironically taking recommendation from the underage trash and lost dinosaurs that lurk here
Your first mistake.

[Anonymous No.11194073]

Did you guys know Sarah Maas graduated magna cum laude?

[Anonymous No.11194077]

>>11192675
>>11193206
>>11193433
I still need this book identified. Can anyone lend a hand? The only information I have is the cover and the genre (fantasy). Thank you.

[Anonymous No.11194116]

>>11191829
Its not as bad as everyone thought it was going to be. The art design is still terrible but the actual characters and dialogue are pretty good. Supposedly it follows the original novel more than the old show, I haven't read it so I wouldn't know.

[Anonymous No.11194143]

>>11194073
more like magna cum loade

[Anonymous No.11194182]

>>11194077
>>11192675

[Anonymous No.11194194]

[Anonymous No.11194289]

>>11194182
Thank you so much!! How may I repay you?

[Anonymous No.11194332]

>>11194289
Suck his dick.

[Anonymous No.11194345]

What are the other Sprawl stories like? Is Neuromancer the peak?

[Anonymous No.11194352]

>>11194332
She's probably a girl (female).

[Anonymous No.11194373]

>>11194352
>implying feminine dick isnt better

[Anonymous No.11194374]

>>11194352
Suck her dick

[Anonymous No.11194402]

>>11194373
>>11194374
Please, anons, contain your shitposting.
I'd suck a clit like a mountain spring after going through the desert for 40 years, though

[Anonymous No.11194411]

>>11194402
Can you pretend you're a formless elemental male dragon (female) while doing so?

[Anonymous No.11194420]

>>11194411
I guess. But I have to work tonight... Sorry

[Anonymous No.11194422]

>Imagine you are Siri Keaton.

[Anonymous No.11194450]

>>11194289
It's all good. Literally all I did was crop the picture and reverse image search it. Unless you're secret rich in which case i'll take 1 Bitcoin.

[Anonymous No.11194471]

To whoever recommended A Planet For Rent, thanks for that. I found it extremely engaging to read and refreshing. Great shit, gonna read The Kings Of The Wyld next!

[Anonymous No.11194480]

>>11194450
Which reverse search? Because I didn't have luck with google's.

I'm not rich, but I'll be some day. I'm a frugal fucker who invests in index funds. Now that I think of it, I can give you that knowledge. All you need to know about investing:
Buy and hold low TER(OCF), global index funds
All the academics, Nobels, Warren Buffet, etc agree on this.
Proof, in video form.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwkjqGd8NC4


And thanks again

[Anonymous No.11194506]

>>11194480
Google's. I cropped out everything but the cover though. I'll check out the video, thanks

[Anonymous No.11194615]

Is Mistborn good?

[Anonymous No.11194666]

>>11194615
Do you like Sanderson? If the answer is yes, you will probably enjoy Mistborn.

[Anonymous No.11194706]

>there are people who unironically read Rothfuss and Sanderson
>and they are in this very thread
>POSTING
>RIGHT
>NOW

[Anonymous No.11194730]

>>11194706
I tried to rad Sanderson, Mistborn I think, but I dropped it pretty quick. Never touched anything by Rothfuss though.

[Anonymous No.11194732]

>>11194706
I'll find you

[Anonymous No.11194755]

>>11194706
I read Rothfuss.
It was a good story I was frequently frustrated by the MC. I want to know more about his assistant because he isn't a cuck.

[Anonymous No.11194776]

>>11194730
Well, seeing as you can't read in the first place I would understand why you would drop it.

[Anonymous No.11194793]

>>11194755
Rothfuss is a master of hinting at interesting things in the background and then completely ignoring them to focus on a shitty Mary Sue protagonist in a generic magical school setting.

[Anonymous No.11194830]

>>11194793
Agree. I want to see how this all plays out but I can see half of the story left to tell being glossed over like the sea voyage.

[Anonymous No.11194897]

>>11194706
Don't bunch them together, they're not alike.

[Anonymous No.11194911]

>>11194615
If you like anime yes

[Anonymous No.11195124]

>>11194706
I lost interest in Mistborn pretty quickly but The Way of Kings, I did like. Mostly for the world it built though

[Anonymous No.11195125]

>>11194345
Count Zero is good, Mona Lisa Overdrive is ok. Burning Chrome the short story is great.

I didn't like any of the Bridge books. The first Blue Ant was a return to form but I haven't read the others.

[Anonymous No.11195163]

>>11193220
Heinlein's juvies are good even if you don't like his normal books.

[Anonymous No.11195177]

>>11193516
t. brainlet

[Anonymous No.11195217]

I read a book when I was a child that was a large choose your own adventure style picture book. It was about ghost haunting this motel and was likely published in the early 80s. I know this is vague but I have lingering memories of being really frightened by this book but can't seem to remember any details about it. If anybody has any suggestions at all?

[Anonymous No.11195423]

>>11194793
I only read the first book and was actually enjoying it until the protag got to the school. After finishing it I heard all the problems the first book had were still there in the next one but in even greater amounts, and with no sign of the third book in sight, I was fine with stopping there.

[Anonymous No.11195433]

>>11193069
does this motherfucker not know what a semicolon is

[Anonymous No.11195503]

>Guy gets transported into another world
>Magically knows how to fucking build furnaces and smelters and w/e to produce steel
>Magically knows how to build a printing press
>Magically knows how to make a whole buncha other shit

Friggin authors!

[Anonymous No.11195511]

>>11188717
Bump for critique on these short story snippets, would really be helpful to me.

[Anonymous No.11195557]

>>11195503
>reading bad books
fuckin' audience

[Anonymous No.11195690]

>>11195503
what author? I wanna see if it's the one I'm thinking about.

[Anonymous No.11195703]

>>11195690
It's not, I've been reading stories on royal road lately

[Anonymous No.11195714]

>>11195703
oh okay. I was thinking Olan Thorensen, but alright.

[Anonymous No.11195721]

Is there any interest out there in gamebooks? I'm writing one but I'm wondering if it's a stupid idea to expect people in 2018 to actually read it and bust out their d20s to play along.

[Anonymous No.11195725]

>>11195503
Stop reading bad books and start reading Daniel Black.

[Anonymous No.11195735]

>>11195725
I have read Daniel Black

[Anonymous No.11195759]

>>11195725
>Daniel Black
It's like eating the most greasy and unhealthy snack, but I love it.

[Anonymous No.11195780]

>>11195721
Hipsters will eventually find role games popular and ruin the whole thing; maybe you'll get lucky and be the first to benefit from it.

[Anonymous No.11196038]

Why would a shill target /lit/?

[Anonymous No.11196064]

>>11194776
U mad? U sound mad bitch

[Anonymous No.11196065]

>>11196038
Our opinions are highly regarded

[Anonymous No.11196067]

>>11196038
Name a larger forum where you don't have to jump through hoops to advertise.
Name a forum where there is as many people.
Some combination of the two.

[Anonymous No.11196080]

How the hell am I supposed to describe the book of the new sun to someone?

I was talking with my friend and he asked me what my favorite book was, and when I tried to tell him what it was about I was kind of at a loss for words

[Anonymous No.11196082]

>>11195780
Delete this. Delete this now!

[Anonymous No.11196085]

H-Hey /lit/, I just wanted to get some opinions.
>which one should I get
which one will be the best for value? I'm tired of reading Lovecraft on a computer, it just feels wrong.

[Anonymous No.11196108]

>>11196085
I have the necronomicon

[Anonymous No.11196136]

>>11196085
The barnes and noble omnibus is really great. It's absolutely massive and has almost everything he's ever written

[Anonymous No.11196140]

>>11196136
Including random short stories he wrote as a child

[Anonymous No.11196159]

>>11196136
That's good to know, I was contemplating purchasing that one.
From what I just found out, the Complete Fiction is a reprint of Barnes and Noble's volume so I might get the leatherbound for the juvenilia.

Thanks for the replies!

[Anonymous No.11196216]

>>11196080
i just tell people that it's far far future, and it's an autobiographical story about a man who comes to rule that world
i mention that it's got a lot of references to christian and greek storytelling, and that while there's a straightforward plot, there's a sort of cyclical plot beneath the whole thing that's uncovered slowly throughout the story

[Anonymous No.11196485]

What is the best, most entertaining work of Science Fiction that you have read so far this year or last year even?

[Anonymous No.11196510]

>>11195721
I'm not sure how big the nostalgia market would be. If you included a die that would be good. Honestly it would have a better chance as a phone app.

[Anonymous No.11196515]

>>11196485
Blindsight

[Anonymous No.11196548]

>>11196485
Jordan Peterson 12 rules for life

[Anonymous No.11196554]

How are the Bionicle books?

[Anonymous No.11196609]

>>11195759
Gotta mix it up man. A diet of high class meals and healthy snacks is only made better by a touch of fast food

[Anonymous No.11196611]

Thoughts on where the Ice and Fire series will eventually head? I think ADOS should be the last book in this trilogy wrapping up the arcs that were started in AFFC. It would be nice if Martin wrote a third trilogy taking place after ADOS largely about the second Long Night happening in Westeros. If it happens at the end of TWOW/ADOS then it's going to feel rushed and anti-climatic.

[Anonymous No.11196619]

>>11196485
Children of Time. There are tons of better sci fi but I've already read them and you asked regarding this year.

[Anonymous No.11196633]

>>11196611
>if

[Anonymous No.11196644]

>>11196611
>It would be nice if Martin wrote a third trilogy
i hope he lives to be 150+ years old as well, anon

[Anonymous No.11196651]

>>11196485
Sandkings

[Anonymous No.11196656]

>>11196485
I just reread the short story True Names by Vernor Vinge. It's still one of my favorites. Another fave is Story of Your Life by Ted Chiang.

[Anonymous No.11196674]

Is The Vorrh worth a read? I rarely ever read fantasy stuff and I want nothing to do with the typical swords and bows, elves dwarves and orc Tolkein copypaste shit.

[Anonymous No.11196678]

>>11196611
It's gonna head into grrm having a heart attack before the next book comes out. All manuscripts will be burned as a final fuck you to the series that destroyed his will to live after decades of journeyman SFF writing.

[Anonymous No.11196683]

>>11196485
Count to Infinity

[Anonymous No.11196725]

>>11196678

HBO clearly fucked him over in someway. I think if GOT hadn't happened then the series could've been over now but HBO are clearly in some fashion trying to stall the release of the last two books for whatever end.

[Anonymous No.11196735]

>>11196548
That's not sci-fi..

[Anonymous No.11196740]

>>11196735
yes it is

[Anonymous No.11196741]

>>11196740
No... Its a self-help book.

[Anonymous No.11196745]

>>11196741
have you even read it?

[Anonymous No.11196779]

>>11196745
What is it about?

[Anonymous No.11196782]

>>11196779
science fiction

[Anonymous No.11196790]

>>11196779
lobsters

[Anonymous No.11196792]

>>11196782
>>11196790
Elaborate, please.

[Anonymous No.11196802]

>>11196725
>implying he wouldn't keep writing Wild Cards and random short stories regardless of what anyone wanted

[Anonymous No.11196820]

>>11196792
They are jesting

[Anonymous No.11196839]

>>11196725
dude you’re dumb. He literally just got “fuck you rich” and just washed his hands of the whole thing

[Anonymous No.11196914]

>>11196839
>>11196725
I think he just ran out of good ideas.

[Anonymous No.11196964]

Just started Dune yesterday and I've really been enjoying it. I'm new to literature but it hasn't been that hard of a read.

[Anonymous No.11196979]

NEW

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[Anonymous No.11196987]

>>11196964
Dune is great, my dude. It used to be my favorite sci fi book when I was first getting started

4th book is the pinnacle, everything after is trash though

[Anonymous No.11197042]

>>11196725
Are you actually fucking stupid

Taking away how utterly retarded that idea is, how would the even do that in the first place? They don't own GRRM or his publishers

[Anonymous No.11197180]

>>11196485
>so far this year
Roadside Picnic desu.

[Anonymous No.11197192]

>>11196651
The collection or the short story? I did not really like the short story, the plot was predictable and the main character unimaginative.

[Anonymous No.11198381]

>>11193516
It was labeled avoid for a reason.