/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.11163430]

/qtddtot/ Questions that don't deserve their own thread. Also translations general

[Anonymous No.11163433]

Any good online annotations for Moby Dick?

[Anonymous No.11163438]

I want to write a schizophrenic character. Aside for the DSM-5, what are some things I could look into that would allow me to better understand the workings of the mind of a schizophrenic?

[Anonymous No.11163441]

>>11163438
rap music

[Anonymous No.11163460]

>>11163438
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEnklxGAmak
Really good lecture if you want the basics of the medical understanding

[Anonymous No.11163527]

>>11163438
Check out Tim Byrne and of course Terry A Davis
https://www.youtube.com/user/MrTimmyUk/videos
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJZTn-fPu-uIA55UI47_cXg/videos

[Anonymous No.11163532]

Any good online annotations for Suttree? Bookdrum doesn't cover it only Blood Meridian

[Anonymous No.11163544]

>>11163430
so from what I could get, after Hegel... I'm pretty much free to read wathever I want in terms of philosophy right ?

Also what language should I learn first ?

[Anonymous No.11163570]

>>11163544
>after Hegel... I'm pretty much free to read wathever I want in terms of philosophy right ?
nope you can do that only after Heidegger

[Anonymous No.11163579]

Reading what books will help me to deal with my insecurities?

[Anonymous No.11163582]

Is reading fiction pointless

[Anonymous No.11163594]

>>11163582
yeah but it can be fun

[Anonymous No.11163596]

>>11163582
Sure feels like it sometimes.

[Anonymous No.11163599]

>>11163579
I doubt that reading books will affect your personality . Try working out

[Anonymous No.11163601]

>>11163438
The only way you'll create a realistic schizophrenic character, nothing will be as good as having a conversation with a schizophrenic and following/guiding their logic. Unfortunately, if you don't know any or happen to work in mental health, this becomes very difficult.
Apart from that, you need to understand that schizophrenia is a very broad diagnosis and there is incredible variation.
Maybe there is volunteering you can do somewhere?

[Anonymous No.11163602]

>>11163579
On the Road by Jack Kerouac will turn any virgin into a chad. If you're up for something more challenging read Moby Dick.

[Anonymous No.11163609]

>>11163582
Always better than browsing here

[Anonymous No.11163611]

The Ciardi translation of the Inferno is the best ye?

[Anonymous No.11163612]

>>11163544
>What language should I learn first?
Languages are made significantly easier to learn if you enjoy them, or enjoy the culture they are connected to. What language are you the most interested in? That's the one you should learn first.

>Reading what books will help me to deal with my insecurities?
Different answers for everyone. Depending first on what your insecurities are, and more importantly who you are. If I could give one suggestion from my experience, a few years ago I lost a lot of weight, and since then I have been a lot more confident. People will say things like accept the body you have, but from somebody that lived it that's bs.

>Is reading fiction pointless?
Depends. There are a lot of profound messages within fiction novels. Even if you do read something "pointless" though, was the time really wasted if you enjoyed it?

[Anonymous No.11163625]

>>11163602
>On the Road by Jack Kerouac will turn any virgin into a chad.
>I wished I were a Denver Mexican, or even a poor overworked Jap, anything but what I was so drearily, a “white man” disillusioned. All my life I'd had white ambitions; that was why I'd abandoned a good woman like Terry in the San Joaquin Valley I passed the dark porches of Mexican and Negro homes; soft voices were there, occasionally the dusky knee of some mysterious sensual gal; and dark faces of the men behind rose arbors. Little children sat like sages in ancient rocking chairs. A gang of colored women came by, and one of the young ones detached herself from motherlike elders and came to me fast -- “Hello Joe!” -- and suddenly saw it wasn't Joe, and ran back, blushing. I wished I were Joe. I was only myself, Sal Paradise, sad, strolling in this violet dark, this unbearably sweet night, wishing I could exchange worlds with the happy, true-hearted, ecstatic Negroes of America.
Sounds a little self hating and self pitying to me

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>>11163601
This is good advice. I have a friend who has had bouts of ongoing chronic paranoid schizophrenia. The only way I can talk to her during her worse episodes are to follow the strange (il)logic of her paranoia. Incredibly intelligent girl, with an interest in Jewish mysticism and post-structuralist philosophy, which makes her ramblings all the more fascinating and bizarre. She genuinely thought she was turning into a goat and that the oven was a gassing murder device that had killed her numerous times. You actually begin to find deep mtaphorical reasoning behind much of it; something the DSM-5 won’t give you. Weird stuff. Highly recommend.

[Anonymous No.11163700]

Hey fags, can you reccomend me some hispanophone poets? Preferably NOT from spain.

[Anonymous No.11163708]

Why are Americans so dumb

[Anonymous No.11163778]

>>11163708
because ameriburger education :DDD

[Anonymous No.11163954]

>>11163582
almost as pointless as reading non-fiction

[Anonymous No.11164782]

Bump

[Anonymous No.11165321]

Are you supposed to take the dust cover off when reading a hardback?

[Anonymous No.11165386]

What were your first books/ places online were you learned to hone your craft, become better writers? What kind of exercises did you partake in to improve.

[Anonymous No.11165392]

>>11165321
Yes

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>>11163438
Similar but i want to write a sociopath, advice? I dont want to veer into edgelord territory.

[Anonymous No.11165408]

What do you think about reading the Bible out of curiosity? I'd like to know more about Christianity but I fear this might be biting off more than I can chew.

[Anonymous No.11165415]

Is there a work of literature that expands upon the falling away of Adam's descendents from union with God, and ultimately the entire awareness of God or that such a god even exists, with unprecedented developments in characterization and dramatization in the vein of Milton through Paradise Lost, or Mann through Joseph and His Brothers, how each takes a chronicle from the Bible and expounds on it with richer, fuller narrative form?

[Anonymous No.11165417]

>>11165321
Do whatever you want. I throw most of my dust jackets in the trash

[Anonymous No.11165472]

Other than ripping from youtube where can I get audiobooks without torrenting (only ddl or irc xdcc)? They're to keep me from blowing my brains out while wagecucking and I go through about one a day this way. My city's library site is fucking trash and youtube has limited selection.

[Anonymous No.11165478]

>>11165472
Also other than librevox and gutenburg project. I can get the old stuff fine, but if I want to read (listen to) shit from still-living authors and recent publications it's hard to find that for free. Which is the problem. I'm listening to the Iliad right now for example, but I also want to read shit written in the last 30 years now and then.

[Anonymous No.11165482]

How come in Russian, 123 is adin, dva, trii, but when native speakers count out loud they say "raz, dva, trii?"

[Anonymous No.11165490]

>>11163700
Octavio Paz

[Anonymous No.11165571]

>>11165472
>>11165478
If they're alive, they are still charging money for their work.

[Anonymous No.11165620]

>>11165478
Spend some of your cuckbucks you fuck.

[Anonymous No.11165666]

>>11165482
Paзницы нeт, тoвapищ. Oдин этo бoлee литepaтypный вapиaнт, paз этo бoльшe paзгoвopный

[Anonymous No.11165750]

How do you do spoilers on a Macbook? I need the step by step.
inb4 iPleb

[Anonymous No.11165876]

>>11163430
Hi, this is my first time posting on /lit/, I need help. I'm trying to understand why I got so obsessed with pic related and how to find something similar. The plot is retarded, basically a sports anime with random edgy mafia stuff happening in the background, so please ignore it. The interesting part is the characters are always lying to each other and to themselves. It often made me feel completely out of the loop but it was weirdly enjoyable, I loved the lies and the character's reactions to finding out every little piece of information and finally the whole truth. Mystery, gossip and interesting characters. How do I find books like this?

>>11163700
Jorge Luis Borges, Julio Cortázar, Alfonsina Storni, Pablo Neruda, Mario Benedetti, Juana de Ibarbourou.

[Anonymous No.11165903]

>>11165750
[ spoiler ] [/ spoiler ]
remove spaces

[Anonymous No.11166579]

>>11165408
I did it. Don't be a pleb and read the thing.

[Anonymous No.11167030]

>>11165571
>>11165620
No.

[Anonymous No.11167093]

>>11165321
I use it as a bookmark

[Anonymous No.11167385]

>>11165903
bitch

[Anonymous No.11167425]

Why are rightwingers so disgusting?
>>11163433
Just buy the Norton edition you pleb

[Anonymous No.11167434]

>>11165415
A time for everything by knausgaard is kind of like this. He does Cain & Abel, Noah and Ezekiel iirc

[Anonymous No.11167441]

>>11163438
my diary desu

[Anonymous No.11167561]

>>11163700
Alí Chumacero
Octavio Paz
Pablo Neruda
Efraín Huerta
Enriqueta Ochoa
Nicanor Parra
Manuel Acuña

[Anonymous No.11167883]

>>11167385
Nou

[Anonymous No.11168001]

what translations of the Iliad, odyssey and don quixote should i get?

[Anonymous No.11168032]

i want to try to read more philosophy give me some recs so far ive only read nicho ethics, the meme and its own, and meditations by aur some thinkers that look interesting to me are schop, nietzsche, hiedegger, husserl, deleuze, and foucault give me some guidance plz thx

[Anonymous No.11168044]

>>11168032
You should really go back and read Plato. Read Anselm for a fun time. Read Hegel if you want a challenge.

[Anonymous No.11168048]

>>11163430
What are some books that will help me appreciate prose-writing more? I've already tried picking up most of what's in the wikia recs. Anything else?

[Anonymous No.11168059]

>>11168048
Yeah just pick up some poetry

[Anonymous No.11168064]

>>11168059
Like what? I enjoyed Paradise Lost and I like Byron. Anything similar? Or should I read something different?

[Anonymous No.11168676]

Are there some good books about social conservatism/something from modern conservative thinkers? Seems like it would be something easy to find but I see mostly shit.
>inb4 pol
no

[Anonymous No.11168761]

>>11163433
http://www.powermobydick.com

[Anonymous No.11169010]

>>11168032
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1y8_RRaZW5X3xwztjZ4p0XeRplqebYwpmuNNpaN_TkgM/mobilebasic?pli=1

[Anonymous No.11169028]

Currently reading Robinson Crusoe, I really like it thus far. I feel like I'm on a big journey lol. Can /lit/ recommend me something similar that has got the same comfy, exploring, Indiana Jones kind of vibe to it?

[Anonymous No.11169103]

general lit discord: shitposting edition

https://discord.gg/kEmXQYW

[Anonymous No.11169171]

>>11169103
>discord
fuck off

[Anonymous No.11170277]

>>11163438
Read Ubik, Watch documentaries on schizo killers and interesting people, maybe read some Nick Land

[Anonymous No.11170306]

>>11168064
Hart Crane, Wordsworth, Eliot

[Anonymous No.11170320]

I need some introductory buddhist texts, preferably mahayana. The most basic/influential texts mostly, not the ancient or western commentaries. The diamond and heart sutra are nice but short. The four truths/eight noble paths i know about. The BDK english translations are good but idk where to start.
Also is Alan watts a meme? Seen threads praise and hate him. What are his best books?

[Anonymous No.11170472]

>>11170320
Dhammapada is good and basic. Alan Watts is good, but he's a white man with an ego. Stick with the eastern masters if you want the purest doctrine.

[Anonymous No.11170488]

Is there a non-slang word synonymous to "horny"?

[Anonymous No.11170496]

>>11170488
amorous.

[Anonymous No.11170517]

Anyone got a good book for a survey of russian history? not too brief, preferably.

[Anonymous No.11170521]

>>11170488
Aroused

[Anonymous No.11170549]

>>11170488
lustful

[Anonymous No.11171777]

I am currently finishing Anna Karenina and while i enjoyed reading it, it think it am missing why it is so treasured. What is that about? What so cool about it?

[Anonymous No.11171925]

What are some books like subahibi? minus some of the unnecessary sex scenes As in loads of fucked up crazy shit keeps happening, but there's actual philosophical meaning behind it and it gets resolved in the end.

Related: What's the best translation of Cyrano de Bergerac? Is there any edition that has the French and English side by side? Can I read the original with A2/B1 French?

[Anonymous No.11172330]

>>11171925
Probably won't be anything similar to Subahibi, but if you're looking for similar weird-ish vibes then try Moby Dick, or anything by Pynchon.

[Anonymous No.11172350]

Where to start with anarchy/anarchist reading?

[Anonymous No.11172603]

Where do I start with this guy? Is there a chart?

[Anonymous No.11172609]

>>11165399
Sociopath is beyond edgelord territory. Generally they are considered not capable of for seeing the possible, negative outcomes of their actions. Think edgelord that only cares for himself, but has convinced himself he works for a greater good.

[Anonymous No.11172926]

>>11172603
secondary lit. Duty of Genius by Ray Monk is pretty good, or the cambridge campanion to witt is more academic. if you feel the need to start reading witt himself (not recommended) Philosophical Investigations is the right choice. the tractatus is not possible to understand unless you have some background in logic

[Anonymous No.11172987]

>>11172603
overrated depressed jew

[Anonymous No.11173178]

>>11168001
pls repond

[Anonymous No.11173572]

>>11165876
"unreliable narrator" is a trope that you can google

[Anonymous No.11173583]

>>11163430
Yooo, if that dude who told me the "one collar, two sleeves" trick for remembering how to write necessary a couple months ago is in here, you fucking changed my life. Thanks my man.

[Anonymous No.11173615]

>>11170488
randy
lascivious

[Anonymous No.11173627]

>>11173615
randy is 100% slang

[Anonymous No.11173644]

>>11173583
not him, but i was in that thread.

I heard a mnemonic device about how to remember "dessert" vs "desert" today:
think "which one would you rather have two of?" dessert has 2 S's.
also, "Desserts make you less stressed" stressed is desserts backwards.

>>11173627
nigga, just because your cultural history does not extend to a time before Austin Powers does not give you the right to shoot your mouth off to me on a mongolian basket-weaving forum

[Anonymous No.11173657]

>>11173644
informal means slang you fucking twink

[Anonymous No.11173687]

>>11173657
No it doesn't, slang is informal language unique to a group and is marked as such.

[Anonymous No.11173761]

>>11173657
depends on the dictionary.
here's Webster's New World, 3rd Collegiate Ed.
It is identified as neither slang nor informal.
contrast with the same dictionary's entry for "cool." the slang definitions are marked [slang].
(will link next post)
besides, the word "informal" does not mean "slang" as >>11173687
says

[Anonymous No.11173764]

>>11173761

[Anonymous No.11173839]

>>11173178
Grossman for Quixote.
I don't think there's a definitive homer translator, it's pretty controversial on this board.

[Anonymous No.11175081]

>>11172330
Thanks for the rec, was looking into Pinecone myself. From what I've heard, he has the same high-art/low-art combination which was one of the main aspects of Subahibi I liked.

[Anonymous No.11175087]

I shouldn't study lit in undergrad, right? I'm supposed to just study it on my own and pick something money making?

[Anonymous No.11175325]

>>11175087
I wouldn't major in lit outside of an Ivy or Oxbridge unless you want to become an English teacher. You'll need a lot of signalling value from your degree to compensate for the "poor" major choice. However, feel free to minor in it and remember most professors will be happy for people to sit in lectures and classes they're not taking, so if you're interested in a particular book or author that might be a better path to take.

[Anonymous No.11175330]

Is Alice in Wonderland worth reading as an adult?

[Anonymous No.11175369]

>>11175330
The Jabberwocky poem is. The rest, eh, yeah I guess it's kind of a trippy story.

[Anonymous No.11175387]

where to start with Husserl for the most basic outline of the phenomenological method?

[Anonymous No.11175407]

should i study philosophy or history of philosophy?

i want to understand the philosophy of the greatest westerner thinkers, from plato to zizkek, and how those thoughts influenced the way we see the world and our problems. but i dont know if i want to be a philosopher or just learn about the timeline of philosophy.

[Anonymous No.11175433]

>>11175330
You can read it in an evening, it's worth knowing because of all the pop culture allusions.

[Anonymous No.11175444]

>>11175330
Absolutely, the other anons who responded are nimrods.

[Anonymous No.11175455]

>>11175407
I am assuming you are talking about uni? If you want to be a good philosopher study something related but that also makes money. In your free time study philosophy, philosophical history, as well as just general history.

[Anonymous No.11175526]

>>11163430

What is some good English lit post Orwell/Huxley? Recommendations for books by English authors on this board drop off around there.

[Anonymous No.11175530]

>>11175526
John Fowles

[Anonymous No.11175606]

>>11175530

Where should I start?

[Anonymous No.11175823]

>>11175407
studying philosophy properly means studying its history

studying philosophy properly always means hermeneutically understanding what you're studying, understanding its historical milieu, the layered epistemes and discourses it participated in, etc. even if you want to do transcendental, non-discursive, non-linguistic philosophy, you have to take the linguistic turn, which is a fundamentally historical/historicist turn.

there are shitty historians of philosophy who are basically just intellectual historians who never fucking do real philosophy. but you don't have to be one of those guys. read dilthey and heidegger and later wittgenstein and look at the history of philosophy as a fluid continuum of super smart dudes trying to break through into the transcendental by churning always-already-available discourse up into abstractions

also read coleridge's biografia literaria

i'm biased as an historian of philosophy (and drunk) but definitely definitely read philosophy historically, it's not a "way" of reading philosophy, it IS philosophy

[Anonymous No.11175946]

What are some books on the subject of anti-consumerism. No commie stuff please.

[Anonymous No.11175962]

Who is that one Lobster dude you guys always meme, I forget his name but I know he was born in 1962

[Anonymous No.11175971]

test

[Anonymous No.11176014]

>>11175387
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fBYpm4MHyKM-80sTzQaBiYLI0vJKkE80h2b10JR5cwg/mobilebasic?pli=1

[Anonymous No.11176020]

>>11175946
>anti-consumerism. No commie stuff please.
Only a bullet to the brain will provide that shortcut

[Anonymous No.11176651]

>>11175946
Do you even understand how capitalism works?