War

[Anonymous No.11146522]

What do you think was the most /lit/ fucking WAR, /lit/?

I think WWI is very underrated. It signified a bigger loss of innocence than WWII, with the advent of automatic weaponry and chemical warfare. People weren't ready, at all.

[Anonymous No.11146538]

WWI is only underrated in the US, I can tell you for a fact that European kids learn about it and its "literary value" as soon as they're able to spell their regional variant of the word "horrid amputation"

[Anonymous No.11146547]

The Greco-Persian war

[Anonymous No.11146549]

>>11146522
>For Whom the Bell Tolls
>Homage to Catalonia
>various Auden pieces

[Anonymous No.11146554]

>>11146522
The Peloponnesian War

[Anonymous No.11146674]

>>11146538
I was a european kid of a participating nation and we didn't get much on it, aside from us having done terribly because we were poor so fascism happened. We had the colonial war in the 60's, so that takes most of the spotlight.
Yeah, that reminds me, the Portuguese Colonial War is very /lit/, not a very explored subject.

[Anonymous No.11146687]

>>11146549
The spanish civil war is such a dead horse at this point. Great stuff, though, great paintings, great poems.

[Anonymous No.11146711]

>>11146549
>>11146687
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytVyrv11LJY

[Anonymous No.11146717]

>>11146522
WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR

[Anonymous No.11146726]

>>11146674
I mean, if your country's had another reasonably important conflict after that, excluding WWII, than I can understand why it'd take precedence.
Dunno, I may be biased because I live in a town from which I can get to the frontline of the Austrian/Italian theater so that shit has always been fairly relevant in my education.

[Anonymous No.11146734]

Depends on the country.

For America, either the Second World War or Vietnam. Iraq and Trashcanistan have potential to produce great literature but so far all we've gotten is Phil Klay's meme tier short story collection. At least we got Anthony Swofford out of the Gulf War.

[Anonymous No.11146735]

>>11146522
The Seven Years War, without any doubt

[Anonymous No.11146748]

>>11146734
There's this, supposedly

[Anonymous No.11146782]

>>11146522
You'd only ask this question if you'd never heard of WWI.

[Anonymous No.11146792]

>>11146674
Interesting, any recs? (I don't read Portugueshe I'm afraid)

[Anonymous No.11146809]

the cold war

[Anonymous No.11146855]

>>11146522
ww1 has some great war books, but ww2 was way more violent and with the war on terror i feel like there is a lot of literary quality to be seen.
I read a small part of a book called Poetry of the Taliban and it actually is pretty good considering the source.

[Anonymous No.11146876]

>>11146522
>advent of automatic weaponry
we had gatling guns during the civil war, retard

>>11146674
your country is irrelevant

>>11146734
vietnam is americas most 'important' war, but 1812/spanish-american/mexican-american wars were more /lit/.

[Anonymous No.11146895]

Honestly not a lot of the American wars are /lit/, even the civil war and 'nam, the most /lit/, don't compare to Angola or Suidafrika

[Anonymous No.11146902]

>>11146876
Not much /lit/ in 1812 besides the Jackson battle

[Anonymous No.11146904]

The question is what makes a war /lit/?

[Anonymous No.11147168]

>>11146904
the spirit of the fighting and how heroic it can be, whether the cause the amount of hardship and struggle it can go through. Basically Romanticism

[Anonymous No.11147178]

>>11147168
but isn't the deconstruction of that notion more represented in literature, like All Quiet on the Western Front and Catch-22? Even the Iliad didn't not romanticize war

[Anonymous No.11147261]

>>11147178
you can Romanticize deconstructionism as a form of a tragedy

[Anonymous No.11147280]

>>11147261
Holy shit of course
It's like how we always say war turns boys into men, as it is a loss of innocence like the OP said.
But then it would have to be the most violent war for it to be /lit/. WW1 had gas weapons but WW2 had concentration camps. vietnam has it's own charm as it literally was just kids being sent to a hellhole for an unjust war but we have the more older wars like the french and american revolution, Mexican american war, and the crusades.
Which was the most horrendous then in order to cause the most tragedy?

[Anonymous No.11147359]

>>11147280
relevantly /lit/ from an american perspective, it would be ww2 and vietnam. for the french it would be algeria. Yugoslavia for them, modern Crimea for Ukraine and Yugoslavia
Overall, well I don't know you can put the tragedy perspective for before the deconstructionist view began.

[Anonymous No.11147373]

>>11146876
gatling guns have to be hand fed and are not mobile and you can’t easily move them to the front. totally different than mounted machine guns and tanks

[Anonymous No.11148399]

I like WWII because they boiled babies alive.

[Anonymous No.11148543]

>>11146855
>Way more violent
...No.

[Anonymous No.11148546]

>>11147178
Re-read the Iliad

[Anonymous No.11148570]

wonder what ww3 will be like

[Anonymous No.11148577]

>>11148570
Probably just a bunch of proxy wars
but if we actually did get far enough it will be worlds war 1

[Anonymous No.11148581]

>>11148570

[Anonymous No.11148595]

>>11148570
Supersonic missiles see 90% of the action
The last 10% of the action is MIRVs

[Anonymous No.11148757]

>>11146522
I definitely agree that WW1 provided a great propensity for literary work. The slow nature of the war allowed troops a great deal of downtime which would propagate introspective thoughts and writing. As well, the combat which guaranteed almost certain death for those charging enemy trenches creates an almost romantic view of death and combat similar to kamikaze pilots of WW2. I think the proxy wars during the cold war (Vietnam specifically) allowed soldiers to reflect upon their previously held image of soldiers in world war 2 as they were honored as heroes and depicted as honorable men fighting valiantly. When these men realized the true brutality of warfare their whole moral being seems to be shaken to the core. The separation between who a solider was/is before and after combat as they realize what they thought to be true is incorrect provides a very compelling narrative.

[Anonymous No.11148822]

>>11146904
The relationships formed between soldiers in battle as well as the massive amount of emotion which occurs in conflict can not be found in any other facet of society. War is shrouded in mystery and as such, people are drawn to it.

[Anonymous No.11148828]

>>11146522
>Loss of innocence meme
>loss
War is just realizing there was never any innocence to begin with, faggot

[Anonymous No.11149456]

>>11148828
>*tips

[Anonymous No.11149595]

>>11149456

[Anonymous No.11149638]

World War I isn't underrated exactly when it comes to literary production/value emerging from it. Siegfried Sassoon, Wilfred Owen, Robert Graves, etc. European wars in Africa are very underrated. People on 4chan will tell you about Rhodesia's war but there's a rich history of cool wars there. "The Scramble for Africa" is a good book that lays many of them out nicely. "The Boer War" by the same author, Thomas Pakenham, is also interesting. Paul Kruger was the man

[Anonymous No.11150662]

>>11146522
Wellington's Peninsular Campaign..

[Anonymous No.11150728]

>>11146734
I just love the US army's 90s aesthetics.

[Anonymous No.11150754]

>>11146549
The only correct answer, at least as far as modern wars are concerned.

[Anonymous No.11150944]

>>11146522
Just read this.

[Anonymous No.11152228]

>>11146522
WW1. It was the literal curtain call for European civilization. It doesn't get much more lit than an actual apocalypse.

[Anonymous No.11152248]

>>11148577
>proxy wars
Can´t wait to DDos Assad

[Anonymous No.11153487]

>>11152248
lol

[Anonymous No.11153609]

>>11146902
Some boss Navy battles in 1812. Chesapeake vs the Shannon,
Constitution v Java

[Anonymous No.11153625]

War isn't "/lit/" at all and the only ones who think so are the ones who have never gone or been affected by it beyond what they see in their televised propaganda.

The only /lit/ war would be class war where we shoot the bourgeoisie and their cuckold agents.

[Anonymous No.11153727]

>>11146522
The coming war of Armageddon obviously, as nothing in human history will compare to it.

[Anonymous No.11154325]

>>11146538
>WWI is only underrated in the US
Imagine being British.

[Anonymous No.11154338]

>>11154325
It's sad that all of this went up in flames and the guy spent so much time on it, but also funny because of how much time and money that guy put in only for it to be set ablaze by the government

[Anonymous No.11154343]

Out of WWI, Wilfred Owen's poetry is phenomenal in its ability to capture what those men might have feeled.

[Anonymous No.11154718]

>>11154325
Some people just want to watch the world burn.