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11118134 No.11118134 [Reply] [Original]

Anyone want to drop a few redpills on Hegel? His entire philosophy seems like it could be a religion on its own.

>> No.11118158
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>May Hegel's philosophy of absolute nonsense—three-fourths cash and one-fourth crazy fancies—continue to pass for unfathomable wisdom without anyone suggesting as an appropriate motto for his writings Shakespeare's words: "Such stuff as madmen tongue and brain not," or, as an emblematical vignette, the cuttle-fish with its ink-bag, creating a cloud of darkness around it to prevent people from seeing what it is, with the device: mea caligine tutus.—May each day bring us, as hitherto, new systems adapted for University purposes, entirely made up of words and phrases and in a learned jargon besides, which allows people to talk whole days without saying anything; and may these delights never be disturbed by the Arabian proverb: "I hear the clappering of the mill, but I see no flour."—For all this is in accordance with the age and must have its course. In all times some such thing occupies the contemporary public more or less noisily; then it dies off so completely, vanishes so entirely, without [223] leaving a trace behind, that the next generation no longer knows what it was. Truth can bide its time, for it has a long life before it. Whatever is genuine and seriously meant, is always slow to make its way and certainly attains its end almost miraculously; for on its first appearance it as a rule meets with a cool, if not ungracious, reception: and this for exactly the same reason that, when once it is fully recognised and has passed on to posterity, the immense majority of men take it on credit, in order to avoid compromising themselves, whereas the number of genuine appreciators remains nearly as small as it was at first.

>> No.11118208

>>11118158
I see.

>> No.11118216

>>11118158
Go walk your poodle Schopie

>> No.11118232
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>Only one word more concerning the desire to teach the world what it ought to be. For such a purpose philosophy at least always comes too late. Philosophy, as the thought of the world, does not appear until reality has completed its formative process, and made itself ready. History thus corroborates the teaching of the conception that only in the maturity of reality does the ideal appear as counterpart to the real, apprehends the real world in its substance, and shapes it into an intellectual kingdom. When philosophy paints its grey in grey, one form of life has become old, and by means of grey it cannot be rejuvenated, but only known. The owl of Minerva, takes its flight only when the shades of night are gathering.

>> No.11118241
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>>11118158
i'll never understand how he could be such a crusty bastard about hegel and yet love the vedas this much.

>> No.11118271

>>11118241
Hinduism is trash.

>> No.11118282

>>11118271
so is idealism.

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>>11118232
heh, that's where you're wrong, kiddo

>> No.11118289

>>11118271
Vedanta alone is better than the entirety of western philosophy

>> No.11118290

>>11118282
Eastern religion is idealist and nihilist as fuck, which is why Asians are so privy to obedience.

>> No.11118306

>>11118158
what a pleb

>> No.11118326

>>11118241
They had some history. Hegel had a problem with Schopenhauer's thesis and S brought in some natural scientist to say that his conception of something (evolution maybe?) was correct and Hegel was wrong. Hegel was okay after that clarification and S got his position at U of B and asked to give lecture at the same time as Hegel so they would be in direct competition for students. The other professors thought that was top tier autism but Hegel gave it the all good; so S spent his time lecturing to the few people who didn't want to study under the most famous philosopher of the time, anecdotally going so far as to give full lectures to empty rooms. I wrote a paper about their feud but I can't be fucked to find it so that's the best I can remember.

>> No.11118335

>>11118290
This is why someone like Schopenhauer takes so readily to Eastern religion. His intellectual heritage - Kant, Hobbes, Locke, Descartes - is based in epistemological, and so, spiritual, self-examination.

>> No.11118344

>>11118158

Fuggin rekt

>All this explains the painful impression with which we are seized when, after studying genuine thinkers, we come to the writings of Fichte and Schelling, or even to the presumptuously scribbled nonsense of Hegel, produced as it was with a boundless, though justified, confidence in German stupidity. With those genuine thinkers one always found an honest investigation of truth and just as honest an attempt to communicate their ideas to others. Therefore whoever reads Kant, Locke, Hume, Malebranche, Spinoza, and Descartes feels elevated and agreeably impressed. This is produced through communion with a noble mind which has and awakens ideas and which thinks and sets one thinking. The reverse of all this takes place when we read the above-mentioned three German sophists. An unbiased reader, opening one of their books and then asking himself whether this is the tone of a thinker wanting to instruct or that of a charlatan wanting to impress, cannot be five minutes in any doubt; here everything breathes so much of dishonesty.

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>> No.11118396

>>11118232
Neon Genesis Evanhegelian

>> No.11118403

>>11118290
Hinduism isn’t nihilist its just exhausted and a simulacra of itself now. it wasn’t nihilist at all when the Vedas were first written (and absolutely wasn’t when the Vedas were still in the Andronovan and BMAC zones)

>> No.11118405

>>11118134
>His entire philosophy seems like it could be a religion on its own
Requirement to make a Hegel thread: must have read the Critique of the German Ideology. Mods plz delete

>> No.11118406

>>11118134
>His entire philosophy seems like it could be a religion on its own.
Explain.

>> No.11118470

>>11118285
Hegel > Marx

>> No.11118833

What was Hegel's beef with Schelling about?

>> No.11118867

>>11118833
schelling thinks all cows are black during the night and this drove hegel crazy

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>>11118241
>persian latin

>> No.11118887

>>11118833
>beef
>>11118867
>cows
where is this leading to?

>> No.11118888

>>11118158
>absolute nonsense
hohoho I see what he did there

>> No.11118896

>>11118888
Absolute checked.

>> No.11118972

>>11118867
Based phenomenologically accurate Schelling, how will Hegelfags ever recover?

>> No.11119187

>>11118972
Explain.

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>>11118285
>think that you can predict the future based on a terminological model of reality
>decry Hegel as an idealist for not reducing the totality of being into the meaningless clash between empirical forces and making a rational argument for the transcendental nature of cognition
>"nah dude, class consciousness is the only consciousness for me"
the absolute state of materialist "dialectics"