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Anonymous Tue May 1 21:40:33 2018 No.11085775 [Reply] [Original]

DUDE JUST SHUT UP AND DO MATH LMAO

>>	Anonymous Tue May 1 22:00:09 2018 No.11085886 File: 5 KB, 291x173, bertrand russell.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] DUDE JUST SHUT UP AND LET YOUR WIFE FUCK OTHER MEN LMAO

>>	Anonymous Tue May 1 22:07:21 2018 No.11085928 >>11085775 Was there anyone more beta than this guy? Absolutely ass blasted by those around him like a child

>>	Anonymous Tue May 1 22:10:42 2018 No.11085945 File: 234 KB, 601x697, lawrencetorussell.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Russell thread Posting it again lads

>>	Anonymous Tue May 1 22:18:37 2018 No.11085988 >>11085945 what is this about?

Anonymous Tue May 1 23:13:18 2018 No.11086237

>>11085988

Basically it's about Lawrence calling out Russell for being a dick in his rhetoric in favor of pacifism and no-nukes.

Lawrence is in the wrong, by the way. Cue shitposting in response because /lit/ has long since settled on being anti-Russell by default.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 1 23:14:21 2018 No.11086243 >>11086237 edit: Lawrence died in '30 before nukes were a thing. My point stands.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 1 23:15:28 2018 No.11086247 >>11086237 Why was Lawrence in the wrong?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 1 23:19:31 2018 No.11086267 >>11085945 Hahahaha

>>	Anonymous Tue May 1 23:26:50 2018 No.11086303 >>11086237 What was the exact point of contention?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 1 23:32:29 2018 No.11086324 >>11086237 >pacifist >analytic >sexual deviant >dick >atheist >utilitarian Russell is a failure on every level imaginable, lol.

Anonymous Tue May 1 23:42:57 2018 No.11086372

OP here
I was one of the first "brainlet russell" posters
I really don't like his stand on almost everythig, for me the guy comes off as a complete hack; but the bullying is getting pretty dark. Something good we can say about this guy must exist, right?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 1 23:45:18 2018 No.11086382 >>11086372 He's probably a good mathematician. I don't think anyone here is qualified to comment on that though

>>	Anonymous Tue May 1 23:49:49 2018 No.11086407 >>11086382 His work in mathematics is definitely respectable, shame that's about all.

>>	Anonymous Tue May 1 23:51:00 2018 No.11086413 >>11086407 Being highly respected in a major field is enough for most people.

Anonymous Tue May 1 23:51:54 2018 No.11086416

>>11086372

He was absolutely and unironically right about Aquinas and about the more unpleasant ideas in Christianity, but 4chan culture is set against this because *tips* *dips* *tippy-tippy-tips* and so forth.

I actually haven't read any New Atheism, but I'm sure that whatever their specific arguments are, are in a tradition with Russell. *tippy-tippy tay tippy-tippy tay*

>>	Anonymous Tue May 1 23:52:15 2018 No.11086419 Amazing how brainlet continentals and christcucks are still seething about this guy

>>	Anonymous Tue May 1 23:52:16 2018 No.11086420 File: 31 KB, 349x500, f2b672b3416bdcddf50e23a33eb32c9a.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11085775 Well, if you insist

>>	Anonymous Tue May 1 23:54:57 2018 No.11086432 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74jsba4Mp7c Does this trigger you, /lit/?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 1 23:56:39 2018 No.11086439 >>11086407 The logicist project failed completely, how is that respectable?

>>	Anonymous Tue May 1 23:57:52 2018 No.11086445 >>11086303 Russell wrote an article about how war is bad and will destroy European civilization. Lawrence thought he was basically just whelming his hypocritical, violent hatred of violence beneath a veneer of pacifism.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 2 00:01:09 2018 No.11086458 File: 320 KB, 872x892, 1524274967214.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11086420 No, not that kind of math! AAAAAH, Muh logical positivism!

>>	Anonymous Wed May 2 00:01:50 2018 No.11086463 >>11086439 Now, I hate Russell as much as the next guy, probably more, but not every failure is shameful.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 2 00:13:44 2018 No.11086501 >>11086458 Face needs to be smaller

>>	Anonymous Wed May 2 00:21:36 2018 No.11086529 >>11086439 >The logicist project failed completely No such thing.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 2 02:06:40 2018 No.11086868 >>11085945 holy shit where is this from?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 2 02:11:48 2018 No.11086889 >>11085945 >Let us become strangers again, I think it is better. ouch.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 2 02:21:11 2018 No.11086928 >>11086868 It's just stationary from Lawrence to Bertrand. The man was partially notorious for penning some venomous letters to people he did not like.

Anonymous Wed May 2 02:26:28 2018 No.11086943
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>>11086382
His work in proof theory and set theory laid the groundwork for ZFC, which is (arguably) the biggest thing to happen in math since calculus. The Principia is clumsy by modern standards, but you can compare it to something like Babbage's analytical engine — even though the project never came to fruition, its a massive achievement and an important case study.

>>11086420
I have nothing but respect for G, but his work has had much less impact on the formal sciences than Russel. The collective response by mathematicians was to shrug and say, "Well, we can't prove every true statement, but we can prove all the ones that matter."

t. STEM major who took a few phil courses and a few history of science courses

>>	Anonymous Wed May 2 07:30:46 2018 No.11087716 >>11085945 This is an EXEMPLARY example of frustration with an ENTP's blind Introverted Feeling function. Phenomenal (in the literal sense, too).

>>	Anonymous Wed May 2 07:47:42 2018 No.11087756 File: 78 KB, 662x835, D. H. Lawrence to Bertrand Russell.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11086868 Here's another. Enjoy.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 2 07:57:34 2018 No.11087779 >>11085945 This applies to almost everyone who claims to be moral world-improvers.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 2 08:04:51 2018 No.11087804 >>11086943 >the biggest thing to happen in math since calculus >a bunch of new ugly axioms and constructs to not get btfo by russel's paradox lmao, stop posting here.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 2 08:40:47 2018 No.11087908 File: 89 KB, 621x668, 1498220937475.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11086943 >ZFC >the biggest thing to happen in math since calculus

>>	Anonymous Wed May 2 08:47:39 2018 No.11087917 >>11087716 Do you mean ENFPs introverted feeling???

>>	Anonymous Wed May 2 08:53:02 2018 No.11087925 >taking the leap of faith into the religion of empiricism and analytics I prefer christianity thanks

>>	Anonymous Wed May 2 09:12:56 2018 No.11087971 >>11086432 Russell was spooked apparently

>>	Anonymous Wed May 2 09:34:07 2018 No.11088027 File: 50 KB, 550x543, c.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11087925

>>	Anonymous Wed May 2 09:37:54 2018 No.11088042 >>11088027 I forgive you and ill be praying for you

>>	Anonymous Wed May 2 10:56:46 2018 No.11088357 >>11086324 There's literally nothing wrong with exactly half of these things.

Anonymous Wed May 2 11:35:40 2018 No.11088494

>>11086372
from /our guy/ witty
>Russell’s books should be bound in two colours, those dealing with mathematical logic in red – and all students of philosophy should read them; those dealing with ethics and politics in blue – and no one should be allowed to read them.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 2 11:55:40 2018 No.11088552 >Gets fucking anally devastated by Schopenhauer's very existence The more I read about Russel the more he strikes me as a man-child doing "philosophy" for the prestige

>>	Anonymous Wed May 2 11:57:23 2018 No.11088558 >>11086432 heh that Russell voice is on point. Appropriate to someone that arrogant.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 2 11:59:20 2018 No.11088564 >>11086237 >implying people aren't right to be set against him His life is a joke, almost as bad as his History of Western Philosophy.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 2 12:06:46 2018 No.11088579 >>11088494 Is his The problems of philosophy worth reading?

>>	Anonymous Wed May 2 15:29:45 2018 No.11089610 >>11087917 >>11087716 This. Socionics is pure autism. ENTPs do not use Fi and thats FINAL

Anonymous Wed May 2 15:39:47 2018 No.11089682

>>11089610
Socionics isn't a great system, I agree, but they have some useful insights. Things are rarely black and white, my friend.

All people have all eight functions. You need to do more research into Jung's theories. Ask yourself, first, how the psyche MUST be orchestrated for Jung's theories to be sound. Once you realize the intrinsic links between functions, you'll realize that all people MUST have eight. From there just keep thinking and researching. Everything will open up to you.

>>11087917
No. An ENFP has Fi second, but their blind spot is Ti. Once you understand that all people have all eight functions and how these functions interact with one another the system will become far more useful. If you think like this guy>>11089610 you'll never get any real use out of MBTI, and you'll stay ignorant of Jung's genius forever.

ENTPs and ESTPs both have blind Fi. It would take me a long time to explain why the seventh function is blind and how it relates to the other functions in everyday life, so I'll just leave you to do the research and contemplation on your own. Just know that blind functions and their relationship to the unrepresented functions are extremely important for understanding any type and typing people.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 2 15:41:39 2018 No.11089696 >>11089682 I said "unrepresented," I meant "unrepressed." My bad - spell check's fault.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 2 15:44:14 2018 No.11089713 >>11088494 This sums about everything up regarding my feelings for Russell as well.

>>	Anonymous Wed May 2 15:49:17 2018 No.11089745 >dude Russell is retarded xD >reads Nick Land and Max Stirner What's /lit/'s problem?

>>	WOLFSHIEM !!tuOwy1ct2dy Wed May 2 15:59:53 2018 No.11089807 >>11089745 >What's /lit's problem Liking Stirner.

Anonymous Wed May 2 16:22:28 2018 No.11089933

>>11085775
>>11086416
>>11087925

You mean despite the fact that Russell not only defended a rationalist basis for knowledge, but also defended the existence of abstract entities à la universals? You people hate analytics because you think they take the wonder and mystery out of philosophy and the world, right? But Russell was a defender of those notions that have existed since Plato, so what are you complaining about?

Oh, I forgot that /lit/ is a board for people who don't actually bother to read, so why would you know something as important as Russell's actual philosophy when you try to engage in a discussion with him?

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