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https://lithub.com/men-explain-lolita-to-me/
Wow... Powerful

>> No.11056893

tldr

>> No.11056895

>>11056867
>3 paragraphs out of 50 actually talk about Lolita
Really makes you think.

>> No.11056897

>>11056867
Some men are insufferable dicks about /lit/
Some middle class college educated women think that this means they have suffered and that their suffering is interesting

>> No.11056905

>>11056867
Women brag about being more empathetic readers and writers than men.
Men don’t give a shit because they think empathy is for girls.

>> No.11056917

This is a very poorly punctuated piece.

>> No.11056926

>>11056867
when i offer an opinion to someone i expect them to tell me theres and we can explain our reasoning to eachother. its called a discussion and i think everyone does it

>> No.11056938

>>11056867
U mad white bois?

>> No.11056945
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>>11056867
i need a qt jewish gf right now

>> No.11056953

>The omnipresence of men raping female children as a literary subject, from Tess of the d’Urbervilles to Less Than Zero, along with real-life accounts like that of Jaycee Dugard (kidnapped at 11 in 1991 and used as a sex slave for 18 years by a Bay Area man), can have the cumulative effect of reminding women that we spend a lot of our lives quietly, strategically trying not to get raped, which takes a huge toll on our lives and affects our sense of self. Sometimes art reminds us of life.
>reminding women that we spend a lot of our lives quietly, strategically trying not to get raped, which takes a huge toll on our lives and affects our sense of self.
Dude here, I’m sincerely interested if any femanons can respond. Is this really true? Is this what goes on in women’s heads? Is a good deal of your life spent quietly and strategically trying not to get raped? If so...this was indeed a powerful article and truly changed my perspective on life.

>> No.11056954

>>11056867
>wh*te m*les opinions
Ummmmmmmmm bye

>> No.11056965

>>11056953
Not a femanon, but I imagine it is roughly the same as what goes on in a mans head concerning possible murder/getting robbed. For example I strategically avoid some areas at night where I could be murdered or attacked. I dont think its that profound or alien.

>> No.11056981

>>11056965
Yeah that's mostly right I think, but its also probably a bit more pervasive, since rapes mostly occur with people you actually know, not strangers, whereas assault for your average person is more likely to be a stranger

But not a woman so I dont actually know

>> No.11057002

>>11056965
>For example I strategically avoid some areas at night where I could be murdered or attacked. I dont think its that profound or alien.

it may not be profound or alien but it sure is RACIST

>> No.11057016

>>11056953
Dave Chapelle brings this up in one of his shows. He talks about that when he was a young comedian, he did some gigs that were basically a way for drug dealers to launder their money. One time, they gave him a little case with 10 grand in it for his trouble. He said that that walk home, with those 10 grand in the case, were the most frightening in his life because he know that everybody around him wanted that 10k he was carrying, and plenty of people were willing to harm him to get to it - if only they know what he was carrying. He then asks the question: What would it be like to be having pussy on you all the time?

>> No.11057020

>>11056867
>that consciousness thing that is so interesting and troubling is also going on inside their heads.
ouch. this person thinks they can write well.

>> No.11057063

>Racism and rape the thread.

None of what happened in lolita.

>> No.11057066

>>11057063
>Rape didn't happen in Lolita
Uh huh

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>>11057063
>None of what happened in lolita.

>> No.11057073

>>11057066
They gave you an entire book of justifications and the social education prevents you from seing them.

>> No.11057082

>>11057063
>(you)
>>11057073
>an entire book of justifications
It's almost like you see the truth

>> No.11057113

>>11056953
I mean, I've talked to my girlfriend about this subject before, and its pretty crazy how much its thought about. Almost every moderately good looking woman has been creeped on by guys in public, my gf started getting catcalled at 11. Also, when dating its always a fear with women that the guy might try to rape or kill them. That sounds kind of crazy to a guy, but date rape is REALLY common, and its not like how its portrayed in the movies. I would say that 100% of the women I know have had bad experiences with men, and about 2/3rds have been sexually assaulted to one degree or another.

>> No.11057121

>>11056965
yes she is basically complaining about the lack of social cohesion in big multicultural capitalist hellholes called cities

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>>11056953
>Is a good deal of your life spent quietly and strategically trying not to get raped?

>> No.11057127

>>11057113
this didn't happen when everyone agreed women are weaker than men and brothers/dad would be protective of them

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>>11056867
>men constantly compete and challenge the ideas of other men
>men do the same to women
>REEEEEEE QUIT MANSPLAINING
What do they mean by this?

>> No.11057130

>>11056867
>https://lithub.com/men-explain-lolita-to-me/

"I coined a term a while ago, privelobliviousness"

And she's bragging about it.

The absolute state of non males.

>> No.11057138

>>11056867
Is that her? lol. These people aren't even human, they're caricatures phased into existence by new york energy.

>> No.11057153

>>11057128
Literally fucking this. They don't know what a competitive male environment is like, so they confuse it with misogyny. Women are under the misapprehension that men behave around other men the same way that women behave around other women.

>> No.11057159

>>11056867
>The omnipresence of men raping female children as a literary subject
Hold on... "omnipresence"? Really? Because you can think of a handful of examples over the past century?

>> No.11057160

Is this /whitemenventing/ general?

grow up guys

>> No.11057162

>>11057138
>Is that her?

No Solnit's in her 50's.

>> No.11057164

>>11057127
yeah it did you fucking brainlet. It was just less talked about.

>>11057128
Did you read the article? It's actually pretty interesting. She never uses the word mansplaining and in fact never says that men shouldn't talk about lolita. She also wasn't upset.
>I hasten to add that I don’t think I’m injured by these guys at this point in my life, and I don’t feel sorry for myself.

Jesus Christ how about you try reading on a board about literature.

>> No.11057170

>>11056867
Funny, I didn't hate women until I started seriously reading them. Misogyny arises out of empathy

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>>11057160
>Is this /whitemenventing/ general?
>grow up guys

It isn't healthy keeping your emotions bottled up

>> No.11057181

>>11057164
Just because she didn't use the term "mansplaining" doesn't mean that she isn't making the same argument as the people who do use the term. It's literally in the first line of her blog post.

>> No.11057186

>>11057160
>Is this /whitemenventing/ general?
>grow up guys

telling men not to express their feelings is promoting toxic masculinity
you are literally worse than Hitler

>> No.11057193

>>11057181
Where does it say men shouldn't talk about lolita? Quote it for me.

>> No.11057194

>>11057164
I liked the essay, aside from some silliness and projections. But Solnit is literally the person who coined the term "mansplaining," and it's certainly a theme here.

>> No.11057198

>>11057164
>She never uses the word mansplaining and in fact never says that men shouldn't talk about lolita.

She literally invented the word mansplaining

>> No.11057199

>>11057193
Who claimed that she said that?

>> No.11057226

>>11056965
Not an SJW and I rarely say this, but you should really check your privilege.

>> No.11057237

>>11056867
>"Dolores is raped and has no agency in the situation"
>She actually uses Humbert's perversion to get him to do her will
Yeah the guy's still a pedophile who groomed this child, but it isn't like Dolores is completely innocent in the situation either. It is the nihilistic ethics of our time that is so bent on taking agency away from the faceless, voiceless victim; Badiou was completely right and I become more continental everyday.

>> No.11057240

>>11057198
>>11057194
>>11057199
She's just saying that when she aired her complaints about lolita a whole bunch of guys jumped down her throat in bad faith. There's nothing wrong with complaining about that. And she makes an interesting point about how Lolita is kind of a "double victim". There is really nothing that objectionable or even controversial in the article.

>> No.11057249

>>11056867
I'll get a gf any day now. I can feel it. It'll happen.

>> No.11057268

>>11057240
Her Lolita comments are fine, though brief enough. She's much better and poking social/cultural weirdness than at analyzing literature, but I'm saying that from her writing in general. She can be really astute one second ("More Americans work in museums than work in coal, but coalminers are treated as sacred beings owed huge subsidies"), and then she gives her opinion of Hemingway's prose and I just roll my eyes. But that's fine: Hemingway doesn't need my defense.

>> No.11057270

>>11057240
>bunch of guys jumped down her throat in bad faith
You mean a bunch of guys answered ?

>> No.11057274

>>11056953
It’s not that they are strategically avoiding rape, but it’s a fear that sticks in their mind constantly. And being hit on all the time and looked at sexually since age 11-13 just solidified that fear.

>> No.11057278

>>11056965
Seems a bit too much, but I suppose I don't know where you live or work.

My hood is like 1/4th immigrant, and I've never been robbed even when I'm out past midnight for a stroll. I think that if you have a certain air about you, people won't try to push you around. Try to be tough.

>> No.11057286

>>11057240
>She's just saying that when she aired her complaints about lolita a whole bunch of guys jumped down her throat in bad faith

White men this white man that. She's a race baiting troll. Fuck her.

>> No.11057299

My favorite thing about this whole group of women complaining that men write shit female characters is that they're admitting that one gender can't properly write the other, in other words, female writers don't "solve" the problem, they just invert it.

>> No.11057313

Just women angry that men don't think like they do, and expressing anger that men themselves get angry that women don't think like they do
>But seriously, you know who can’t take a joke? White guys. Not if it implicates them and their universe, and when you see the rage, the pettiness, the meltdowns and fountains of male tears of fury, you’re seeing people who really expected to get their own way and be told they’re wonderful all through the days.
I love it when women try to re-frame male aggression as an expression of vulnerability. But it's only white male vulnerability. There's more legitimacy to black aggression not because black men have been through more, but because black men are more masculine. The psychosexual elements to intersectional feminism is absolutely hilarious to me; most of those critical theorists are ugly white women.

Even if she does perceive male anger to a be a form of vulnerability, her policing of male emotion functions as both a silencing tactic (i.e. I can't stand toe to toe with you, so just shut up and listen to me), and also as a means of perpetuating her conception of an ideal stoic male without seeming like she's contributing to toxic masculinity.

>> No.11057325

>>11057240
>>11057240
>She's just saying that when she aired her complaints about lolita a whole bunch of guys jumped down her throat in bad faith.
Literally any person with a controversial opinion gets treated like that on the internet. How many times have you been called a faggot on this site? She can criticize internet discourse per se, but framing twitter anger as a form of misogyny is absolutely dishonest.

>> No.11057347

>>11056867
But seriously, you know who can’t take a joke? White guys. Not if it implicates them and their universe, and when you see the rage, the pettiness, the meltdowns and fountains of male tears of fury, you’re seeing people who really expected to get their own way and be told they’re wonderful all through the days. And here, just for the record, let me clarify that I’m not saying that all of them can’t take it. Many white men—among whom I count many friends (and, naturally, family members nearly as pale as I)—have a sense of humor, that talent for seeing the gap between what things are supposed to be and what they are and for seeing beyond the limits of their own position. Some have deep empathy and insight and write as well as the rest of us. Some are champions of human rights.

>Black people just can't take a joke. That's not to say I don't have black friends, I've got a whole bunch. I know a lot of black people who can take a joke.

>> No.11057359

>>11056867
This was fine. Not great, but fine. I see where she's coming from, but I also think her attitude is more than a little anti-discourse and anti-intellectual in general.

At the end of the day, it's only the opinion of someone who views literature as a lifestyle choice, rather than a dialectic practice. Stop being so butthurt.

>> No.11057362

>>11057347
But seriously, you know who can’t take a joke? Black guys. Not if it implicates them and their universe, and when you see the rage, the pettiness, the meltdowns and fountains of black tears of fury, you’re seeing people who really expected to get their own way and be told they’re wonderful all through the days. And here, just for the record, let me clarify that I’m not saying that all of them can’t take it. Many black people—among whom I count many friends—have a sense of humor, that talent for seeing the gap between what things are supposed to be and what they are and for seeing beyond the limits of their own position. Some have deep empathy and insight and write as well as the rest of us.

>> No.11057396

>Dilbert comic Scott Adams wrote last month that we live in a matriarchy because, “access to sex is strictly controlled by the woman.” Meaning that you don’t get to have sex with someone unless they want to have sex with you, which if we say it without any gender pronouns sounds completely reasonable. You don’t get to share someone’s sandwich unless they want to share their sandwich with you, and that’s not a form of oppression either. You probably learned that in kindergarten.

His statement wasn't meant to criticize the concept of consent, it was to simply point out the fact that women dominate interpersonal relationships the same way that men dominate culture. It was a pointing out a domain where women have all of the power.

>> No.11057420

>>11057286
sounds like you're insecure about your race and gender ;^)

>> No.11057423

>>11057396
t. incel

>> No.11057438

>a nice liberal man came along and explained to me this book was actually an allegory as though I hadn’t thought of that yet
brainlet here, what is lolita an allegory of

>> No.11057442

>>11057299
WOW

>> No.11057476

>>11057423
>the stratification of contemporary dating isn't a societal problem
okay

>> No.11057517

>“But the concept of art interposes between life and literature a very tough membrane, which insures the incapacity of the artist to inflict moral harm so long as it is recognized that what he is doing is art.” His point is that art can inflict moral harm and often does, just as other books do good.

Am i having a stroke or is this an abject, point-blank misinterpretation of the Danto quote here

>> No.11057519

>>11057278
I dont live in that bad of an area, but for example, I dont like to walk down the alleyway that is always filled with tweakers and gangbangers, or under the bridge where the homeless juggalo retards crowd up. Ive walked through these places before, but when I have the risk is on my mind, even though as you say its fairly small. Im not a little bitch about it but the awareness is there. I think most people can relate

>> No.11057521

>>11057249
good luck anon

>> No.11057553

>>11057519
This

But for me it's fear, I do know to handle myself in those neighborhoods because of my experience of getting jumped and mugged by hoodrats and gangbangers numerous times. For fucks sake whenever I leave from a friend's house who lived in sus af hood I either:
>Force a friend to walk with me to the bus stop
or
>Spend $15 dollars on taxi
I can't speak for women when it comes to the fear of rape and how they go about avoiding because I'm not a woman nor am I saying getting jumped/mugged is much worse, but I can say that anyone regardless of gender and statistics have fears and awareness about the worst things that can happen to them in their minds and make strategic moves to avoid them.

>> No.11057557

>>11057517
No, she was the one having a stroke.

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>>11056945
Take your pick

>> No.11057591

>>11057580
>posts the same picture he always does every day for ebin replies

>> No.11057616

>>11056953
>Sometimes art reminds us of life.
She means this as a positive thing, right? I'm not about to click on that garbage to check.

>> No.11057624

>>11057160
>people discussing opinions on books
>REEEE STOP HAVING AN OPINION

spotted the libshit

>> No.11057635

>>11057580
7 please for the love of god

>> No.11057644

>>11057624
Upset over something dear? Go eat some mayonnaise and crackers like you people always do.

>> No.11057645

>>11057635
Kek

>> No.11057654

>>11057121
....huh. Never had it explained so succinctly. It has to just be because of the stresses of population density, as well as the larger amount of people accounting for the more frequent crimes. Maybe cities were a mistake... Small towns really seem optimal, most I've ever been in have at least been relatively peaceful.

>> No.11057664

>>11057396
False dichotomy dude.

>> No.11057671

>misconstrues GG
REEEEEEEEE

I was never a /v/tard, but I hate when people deny collusion!

>> No.11057700

>>11056965
As someone living on a third word hell hole, I'd say that while im outside my house, specially while walking, or taking the traib or bus, at all times im investing like 33% of my mental capability on staying alert, specially since pickpocketing is extremely common. (any form of backpack/ purse included)

>> No.11057730

>>11057124
Low quality baitpic made by obvious supreme gentlesir

>> No.11057735

anyone watching babylon berlin?

>> No.11057741

>>11057645
Looks like you're in the same boat too bud

>> No.11057744

>>11056953
Not just rape, but avoiding catcalling and general sexual attention while walking around, yes. Wouldn't say it's taken a huge toll on my life or affect my sense of self though. Just like taking a lot of money to a bank for deposit, you don't want anyone noticing you.

>> No.11057751

>>11057313
>>11057325
When are you gonna turn off (you)r dumbass nametag? God i hate your shitty posts

>> No.11057754

>>11057313
>>11057325
When are (you) gonna turn off your dumbass nametag? God i hate your shitty posts

>> No.11057759

>>11057751
>>11057754
Lel

>> No.11057761

>>11057580
Oy gevalt!

>> No.11057763

>>11056953
I have to wake up 5:45am 4 days a week and take the 6:30 morning bus thats absolutely packed full, I cant tell you the amout of times women (normaly either same age or older) have taken advantage of the situation to rub/press themselves against me, or have straight up grabbed my ass. It started noticing it happening when I was like 15 or so.

>> No.11057780

>>11057476
A problem for who? If youre not a hot young woman, or a rich/famous guy, you have way less options, sure. But plenty of average people date each other. I don't see the problem unless you literally never leave the basement

>> No.11057787

>>11057763
When you said women, did you mean men?

>> No.11057836

>So much of feminism has been women speaking up about hitherto unacknowledged experiences, and so much of antifeminism has been men telling them these things don’t happen. “You were not just raped,” your rapist may say,

lol holy shit. Rape is like Godwin's law for feminists.

>> No.11057846

>>11057787
No, I ment women. Overweight old women deserve a special mention, not because they behabe any different, but bacause its so disgusting I just cant lie to myself how I usually do, you know, ye' old "heh, I bet any man would like to be in my position".
Some day in the near future im just gonna snap and clock some old lady in the chin, and while her fake teeth descrive an arc as they fall, everyone will looks perplexed at the scene unfolding. And since I dont have the privilege of living in sweeden where everyone would cower and leave me alone, I'll get shouted at, and perhaps beaten in a 12 on 1, but regardless of the outcone I think I'll end up feeling better about myself.

>> No.11057861

>>11057780
Problem is that 84% of women on tinder get dates while only 15% of men do. There's a huge stratification that's growing by the year. It's not something that affects 2% of basement dwellers

>> No.11057872

>>11057861
Do you have a source for that or are you just pulling it out of your bitter, lonely ass?

>> No.11057875 [DELETED] 

>>11057861
in capitalism 80% of the surplus goes to the top ten percent or something, almost everything in nature is distributed by power law, deal with it, its real life, even bikeshares are by power low law check this out

>https://bikeangels.citibikenyc.com/

scroll down to the ranking, thats the leaderboard for the bikeshare in nyc, look at the distribution of the top ten, and it falls off even lower below that, total power law distribution even for a bikeshare, you cant escape it, only learn to deal with it

>> No.11057881

>>11057861
in capitalism 80% of the surplus goes to the top ten percent or something, almost everything in nature is distributed by power law, deal with it, its real life, even bikeshares are by power law check this out

>https://bikeangels.citibikenyc.com/

scroll down to the ranking, thats the leaderboard for the bikeshare in nyc, look at the distribution of the top ten, and it falls off even faster below that, you cant escape it, only learn to deal with it

>> No.11057884

>>11057872
pareto distribution, basically soft statistical fact that the top 20% of any field produce 80% of the content

>> No.11057890

>>11057872
>As I stated previously the average female “likes” 12% of men on Tinder. This doesn't mean though that most males will get “liked” back by 12% of all the women they “like” on Tinder. This would only be the case if “likes” were equally distributed. In reality, the bottom 80% of men are fighting over the bottom 22% of women and the top 78% of women are fighting over the top 20% of men.

https://medium.com/@worstonlinedater/tinder-experiments-ii-guys-unless-you-are-really-hot-you-are-probably-better-off-not-wasting-your-2ddf370a6e9a

>> No.11057893

>>11057884
although its worth noting that in academia the top 20% are able to claim and/or put their name on 80% of the output produced, not that they actually personally did it, in other words if you can get control over a lab in a big university any paper published will have you as an author thus making you "highly productive" but really your productivity is just a result of power, but thats like the distribution of wealth in capitalism, its not like some hedge fund manager is actually 500,000 times more productive than a tech support flunky, he has control over more resources aka capital, so 80/20 rule definitely shows up everywhere but the trick is to determine why is the top 5th capturing most of the output

>> No.11057896

>>11057881
The problem isn't the law, it's that in a non-monogamous society the bottom 80% of men go from getting laid when a woman is willing to settle down with them in order to get married, to facing the prospect of never getting laid. This is a societal problem, like polygamous Middle Eastern countries proved

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>>11057890
>using medium as a source.

Did you read this? It's 27 women self reporting. Not particularly rigorous. Something tells me there's a reason it was posted to medium.

>> No.11057899

>>11057896
why is it a problem? in most primates sex is distributed this way with the alpha male copulating with the vast majority of females, with a couple second tier betas also getting sex, of course i know there is one species of sex communist monkeys who all get laid and are monogomous too blah blah, but for most primates the distribution is just like tinder, and that is actually best for the advancement of the species, its only a problem for agricultural societies who need to produce small families of peasants to work fields for the ruling class (who invariables take the lion's share of the surplus and may have large harems of concubines)

>> No.11057904

>>11057897
>implying some of the most influential data scientists and technologist don't post on medium

spotted the pleb

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>>11057872
>240 of the 300 girls had sex through tinder
>less than 50 of the 300 men did

>> No.11057908

>>11057899
The problem with that sort of anarcho-capitalist attitude to the distribution of sex is that it isn't conducive to a healthy society. 80% of men living in a state of constant alienation is how you get a serious fascist movement started in your country.

>> No.11057912

>>11057908
after world war one most of the young men where fuckin DEAD there was no shortage of women for them, sorry, dumb theory

>> No.11057917

>>11057912
When did I say that sexual alienation is the only form alienation can take? The sort of Ur-Fascism that arises across time in different societies often have distinct causes.

>> No.11057923

>>11057904
Maybe they do, but anyone can. Medium allows any dipshit to present their ideas with a veneer of credibility.

>> No.11057924

>>11057917
uhhh, you're talking about lack of sex causing men to turn fascist, yet the only time fascism was taken seriously there were plenty of women available, you are a bad thinker, maybe low iq, hopefully you will be in the part of the male distribution that doesn't get laid, no offense

>> No.11057926

>>11057905
>anonymous blog post
>n=a perfectly round number
>reproduces a bunch of pua talking points
>the proportion of girls that 'smashed' is .8; proportion of guys, <.16 (i.e. supposedly demonstrating the pareto principle, yet another pua hot button)
do you think i'm stupid?

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>>11057591
Oy vey, Moshe.

>> No.11057930

>>11057926
Not that anon, but yes.

>> No.11057931

>>11057926
do you really think tinder is somehow violating the laws of nature? good luck with the fantasy world buddy

>> No.11057933

>>11057924
How retarded are you? Ur-Fascism doesn't have a single societal trigger. Read history. There a plethora of causes that can lead to the rise of fascistic precepts taking hold in a society. The causes were economic in Germany; partly psychosexual and partly economic in the Islamic Caliphate; cultural in Italy.

>> No.11057938

>>11057926
The non-judgmental way the writer of that spoke about cheating women is pretty definitive proof that it's not a PUA post. Whether or not the numbers are that extreme, my point that a smaller percentage of men than women have access to sex is still pretty irrefutable.

>> No.11057939

>>11057580
7 7 7 please god...

>> No.11057947

>>11057933
>partly psychosexual and partly economic in the Islamic Caliphate

ISIS is a CIA backed insurgency to overthrow Asad, it's not caused by "psychosexual" causes, did you read about "ur-fascism" in the atlantic and now you're sure the rise of drumpf is linked to angry betas who can't get laid? people voted for trump cause they can't support their fucking family with no job, a family they created by getting laid. you are stupid as shit, this board is too watered down with plebs now.

>> No.11057949

>>11057763
>>11057846
Lmao buddy you are delusional, you are probably so fat people cant help but to be squashed by you on a full bus, this is just some fantasy you use to cope with how insecure you feel about your body.

>> No.11057952

>>11057939
>gets btfo
>tries to derail thread

haha, you lose

>> No.11057955

>>11057931
not every 'natural distribution' follows the pareto principle
you are starting from the presupposition that human sexual access does, however, and are leaping at 'evidence' that confirms this bias
>>11057938
this was not a study
it's just some right-up with phony stats to be circulated on the web as ideological ballast for exactly the purpose you are putting it to

>> No.11057959

>>11057952
The thread isn't anything. It's a bunch of aspies arguing over tinder, and shitting on women.

>> No.11057962

>>11057938
there used to be this website where people could write confessions anonymously, sort of like 4chan but with no threads, and if you browsed them tons of posts were chads admitting all the people they fucked be it coworkers, bosses, friends wives, neighbors, you name it...and another large percent were people admitting they are virgins and never did anything sexual, it was uncanny how it was almost symmetrical, clearly some people where having tons of sex while many other were having none, then all the rest of the posts were about doing gross stuff to people's food, which is why i stopped reading it

>> No.11057964

>>11057947
>ISIS is a CIA backed insurgency to overthrow Asad
Nice fucking conspiracy theory, you fucking retard. I'm sure the CIA is currently writing checks to the British Pakistani virgins blowing themselves up in order to get laid in paradise.

>n the atlantic and now you're sure the rise of drumpf is linked to angry betas who can't get laid?
Literally no one is implying that. Trump isn't a fascist. The 300 people who marched in Charlottesville were fascists though, and a gathering that large of genuine fascists is almost unheard of in the US, at least since the 80s.

>> No.11057968

>>11057959
the only guy shitting on women was the guy threatening a fascist revolution if he doesnt get laid, i don't care if 80% of women fuck 20% of the guys

>> No.11057972

>>11057949
nice projection fatty

>> No.11057975

>>11057580
I would totally do with 9...

>> No.11057977

>>11057968
>i don't care if 80% of women fuck 20% of the guys
No one says you have to care. And I'm not threatening shit, i'm fucking married. I'm pointing out that a society where interpersonal relationships are that stratified isn't a socially and politically stable one.

>> No.11057978

>>11057977
Faggot

>> No.11057979

>>11057964
take the fakenews to the nytimes comments section, the majority of people in isis were from iraq and north africa, yeah a few gullible spergs left the west, but that did not constitute the majority of isis, and the klan always has marches in the south, its just the media chose to make this one into big news to try and tie it to trump

now you aren't even being honest, which means you cant really believe your other positions either

>> No.11057980

>>11057978
I'm having 8 kids just so my genes can outnumber and dominate yours.

>> No.11057984

>>11057979
>the majority of people in isis were from iraq and north africa,
i.e. repressed countries where polygamy is legal. Thanks for proving my point.

>> No.11057993

>>11057984
wow so each of those men st entitled to 1-4 wives but you think they joined isis to get laid? those countries have arranged marriages you fucking provincial idiot, there's no dating (maybe in iraq before bush fucked it up, but not north africa)

the place where people can't get laid (or married) is china and india, but i don't see any isis like movement rising up in india and china? maybe because the chinese government is effective at keeping the cia the fuck out

>> No.11058000

so sad to see nytimes tier comments on /lit/, this place is really getting dumbed down

>> No.11058001

>>11057949
I like how the same crowd that wails about "mhu 90% of sexual assaults never get reported" takes the first chance it gets to try and shit on a story about being harrased when the genders are swaped and it no longers fits the narrative.

Also, im pretty good looking desu.

>> No.11058004

>>11056867
its because women with an opinion seemed to be from the massed produced shit factory of feminism, I'd like a female perspective if it wasn't there to uphold, cover up for, and advance feminist ideology.

I used to think women should see themselves as more than women but lately, I've had to change that to more than feminists.

>> No.11058005

>>11057580
9 seems fine

>> No.11058006

>>11058000
Yes, I haven't browsed lit in like a week and I came back to this, pretty sad. Feels like a link was posted on some reddit reading club for soccer moms.

>> No.11058009

>>11057993
You're really not capable of a basic demographic analysis, are you? A country where men can have 4 wives is a country where each man that has 4 wives is depriving 3 men of a wife. Some young men join these extremist groups because they're guaranteed arranged wives, and because there are so few opportunities for economic advancement in that it's often the only a way a desperately poor man can get married.

>> No.11058012

>>11057240
>And she makes an interesting point
You keep saying she’s making interesting points but it doesn’t make it any more true.

>> No.11058276

>>11056867
God forbid anyone use a narrator for anything other than naively spouting platitudes and correct opinions. I can't believe someone would portray unpleasant people and events in a way that's challenging to the reader! The horror!

>> No.11058309

>>11057396
Technically men could wake up tomorrow and decide to withhold sex the same way women do, but yea in terms of pure biological drives we're at a disadvantage in that department.

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>>11056867

I do not have time to get angry at this.

>> No.11058898

Op here
This is the first time I tried a shitpost thread and I'm amazed at its efficiency.
Will do again soon when bored.
Btw, I liked the very little discussion you guys had about lolita. And if anyones wondering, the gal is from LoadingReadyRun Friday Night Magics.

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>>11058318
based anon

>> No.11059074

>>11057580
Rawling for dubs or 7

>> No.11059080

>>11056867
wanna have sex with this yummy slut

>> No.11059093

>>11058898
These shitposts are very useful. They reveal the resentment and hostility of the non male as well as their intellectual dishonesty. Reading non males is toxic for males.

>> No.11059246

>>11056953
They only avoid not getting raped. Women enjoy sex in all it's manifestations.

>> No.11059339

>>11056953
Statistically man are more likely to get rape. Maybe thats why a male wrote that book. Just saying

>> No.11059367

>>11059339
>Statistically man are more likely to get rape

I really doubt this

>> No.11059398

>>11059367
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/cifamerica/2012/feb/21/us-more-men-raped-than-women

>> No.11059420

>>11056981
you're most likely to get murdered by someone you already know, i think

>> No.11059431
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>>11056867
This fucking article has every kike trick those of us telling the rest of you idiots about the jewish problem have been talking about. Gold mine, this thing.

>Jerry Seinfeld and Bill Maher .... these two white guys

LOL. (((White))) guys, right.

Jews are liars and deceivers, they don't know any other way. Reality and the truth to them is whatever is or can be spun to be "good for the jews." This is why they always get kicked out, you can't have dishonest, manipulative people like this in your country or else it gets destroyed.

The jews have to go.

>> No.11060036

>>11056893
Jewess hates whitey while pretending to be white.

>> No.11060045

How does she know they're all men? Wow transphobia much. Reported to the SPLC.

>> No.11060149

>>11057730
i agree what a fucking neckbeard pissbaby dudebro chud. uhhh fedora bait much?

>> No.11060160

>>11057949
this post turns good if u make in response to some fat girl saying she got raped

>> No.11060163

>>11059398
>>11059367
>dipshit cant bother to google and gets owned fucking hard
haha

>> No.11060170

>>11060149
>>>/r/chapotraphouse

>> No.11060190

>>11060170
yeah my dude i was making fun of the gentlesir guy

>> No.11061891

>>11057580
k

>> No.11061941

>>11057160
I am grown up

>> No.11062218

pic of female + "<...>hub.com" => pornographic website
my first thoughts

>> No.11062260

>privelobliviousness
That this catchy and susinct word will never catch on is yet another example of the patriarchy

>> No.11062321

>>11059398
>>11060163
more likely to get raped
in prison
by other men

>> No.11062328

>>11062321
Spotted the roastie.

>> No.11062359

>>11062328
you have no idea what my views on sexual politics are, you silly faggot
the knife cuts both ways, you don't get to pretend men are saints just because women turned out to be as mundane and pitiful as anything else

>> No.11062398

>>11059398
Sentence after the title: "The figures on rape may be uncertain"
Later in the article: "And I don't think it's possible to conclude from these numbers that the US is "the first country in the history of the world to count more rapes for men than for women."And I don't think it's possible to conclude from these numbers that the US is "the first country in the history of the world to count more rapes for men than for women.""

>> No.11062448

>>11062359
Excuse me, I meant to say, spotted the nigger.

>> No.11062992

>>11059367
Not that anon, but I read an article that young men were overwhelmingly more likely to have prostituted themselves for money or drugs.

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>>11056867

>implying you can explain anything to women

The key to serenity is a full acceptance of that.

>> No.11063023

>>11057905

Tinder has really upped their marketing game I see

>> No.11063035

I haven't read Lolita, please provide me with an opinion

>> No.11063045

>>11063035
humbert did nothing wrong

>> No.11063054

>>11062359
>>11062321
I dont think anyone is saying that men are saints

If everyone agrees that more men are rapists, predators, etc, to get to the disturbing fact that men should actually fear for rape more than women, if we count men in prison*, then its interesting.

>> No.11063060

>>11057127

Holy fuck you're beyond retarded. How fucking stupid can one person be?

>> No.11063064

>>11063054
If men and women were in prison together those numbers would be very different

>> No.11063067

>>11057644
A sincere 'umm sweetie...' reply. Is it even possible for your kind to disengage with this state of perpetual passive-aggression?

>> No.11063069

>>11062398
>https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/cifamerica/2012/feb/21/us-more-men-raped-than-women

Did you read the article? What is uncertain is what is actually happening to the men, not that anything is happening to them period. There are 216,000 cases of, at least, sexual assault in some form with men in prison in the US.

There are only 213,000 women reported for sexual assault. So for rape, the numbers are uncertain, for sexual assault, its fairly certain.

>> No.11063072

>>11063064
...yes? Good thing we dont do that?

>> No.11063110

>>11056953
Women are biologically biased to over perceive threats.

>> No.11063113

>>11063110
Men are biologically biased to be threats

>> No.11063130

>>11058309
But they won't because they want it more.

>> No.11063134

>>11063113
Lol its all about getting one over the other team for you isn't it?

>> No.11063168

>>11057580
>tfw you would do anything for 9 or 7
M-maybe after I finish reading more books I'll finally become the type of person the women find attractive.

>> No.11063186

>>11057237
To what Badiou's book are you specifically referring? I've been meaning to read him and your post interested me.

>> No.11063198

>>11057299
Big if true

>> No.11063211

>>11057194
No, she wrote an essay called Men Explain Things To Me, and then people started using the term more broadly. She wrote about a very specific phenomenon, and then people coined a term that has, like a lot of social justice terms, suffered from "critique drift", where there exosts a huge gulf between the original idea and then the application on social media as it ultimately ends up a parody of itself from over(mis)use.

>> No.11063304

>>11056867
>But seriously, you know who can’t take a joke? White guys.
>185 replies

>> No.11063404

>>11057268
I don't know what I think about that, factories don't run on art.

>> No.11063638

>>11056867
>only three sentences about Lolita
>everything else is blog venting

>> No.11063639

>>11056867
>I coined a term a while ago

>> No.11064038

>>11057881
>almost everything in nature is distributed by power law
is this just a reframing of the "capitalism is hooman natur!" meme

>> No.11064062

>>11063304
you think that sperg article is a joke? wew lad. The absolute state of sjws

>> No.11064087

>>11057744
>avoiding general sexual attention
>wears whore clothes
pick one
>inb4: I go around naked in winter because it is comfy, OK?

>> No.11064143

>>11057580
7, 9, or dubs

>> No.11064403

>>11056893
>feminist
>posts stupid opinion about a book
>people tell her she is misinterpreting it
>men correcting women is indicative of a system of oppression called Patriarchy
>ignore that this phenomenon is not specific to women and men and occurs whenever someone posts an unpopular interpretation of a work of literature regardless of the gender of the people involved
>somehow straight white men in particular
>#NotAll though (but still most of them)
>gamergate is bad
>sexism is bad
>racism is bad
>she joked that reading too many books like lolita makes you racist and sexist, but don't worry she changed her mind
>if you are a woman or a minority then reading lolita makes you feel bad and that is not okay

>> No.11064413

>>11057580
7 or 9 please ye gods

>> No.11064441

i unironically think the article reads like shit. not because of muh roastie or muh feminazi, but it genuinely reads like a pile of horseshit

>> No.11064748

>>11056897
kek

>> No.11064789

>>11056867
I'm not reading this garbage! You actually read this?! The first paragraph alone makes me want to throw up.

Disgusting.

>> No.11064904

>>11057580
Dubs is ok.

>> No.11065695

>>11056867
this is really badly written. overwritten. bitch trying too hard to be witty and shit. it's awful to read. couldn't get past first few sentences. e

>> No.11065716

>>11057175
It's not healthy to have that kind of emotions in the first place.

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>>11057580
rolling

>> No.11065946

>>11057580
Honestly they are probably much more attractive than if you took a random picture of eleven middle-aged "aryan" women.

>> No.11065957

>>11065946
They surely are to you, schlomo, we're aware.

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>>11056867
>It's another essay where a woman complains about men complaining about women complaining
I understand that this is cathartic for the writer but how did she publish 20 (twenty) books of this shit?

>> No.11066074 [DELETED] 

>>11057964
>300 people
Holy moly that’s a lot of people
>since the 80s
Hahhaah whoa that’s 40 whole years... like, wow, what a historically significant difference and threat our democracy.

>> No.11066095

>>11057635
oh no lol

>> No.11066112

>>11057124
t. alex minassian

>> No.11066114

>>11056905
Men just don't complain. It's unmanly.
Except the little bitches on /pol/, of course.

>> No.11066136

>>11057519
>>11057278
Holy shit, living in shitty areas sucks cock. In my German village growing up you wouldn't have to worry about rape at all. Now: maybe, cause of nigger refugees, but damn, what a stupid thing to throw away. The value of social security is immense, look at how stupid American women are. Wasting time worrying about nigger rape, and then wasting time trying to skirt around the fact that it is in fact nigger rape that presents the greatest danger to female vaginas by attacking all men so they aren't racist. Geeze, drugs and diversity suck the life out of your society.

>> No.11066734

>>11065995
Women seem to require a constant and unending river of validation so anything that delivers sells - including whatever tripe this harpy is selling.

>> No.11067208

>>11057580
roland

>> No.11067285

>But seriously, you know who can’t take a joke? White guys. Not if it implicates them and their universe, and when you see the rage, the pettiness, the meltdowns and fountains of male tears of fury, you’re seeing people who really expected to get their own way and be told they’re wonderful all through the days.

Pasty conservative males deep down know this to be true. That's why any form of change or revisionist criticism is pushed back. It's like telling a 3 year old to shut up after complaining for hours and then they cry. White males are the snowflakes people. All the same type with tiny changes that dissolve in the smallest amount of heat.

>> No.11067312

>>11067285
This your first excursion away from reddit, lad? You've certainly arrived with a full head of jewish propaganda and are setting off the mud-person meter big time. I suggest turning slowly back around and going out the way you came. You aren't ready.

>> No.11067388

>>11064062
It's a quote from the article you didn't read.

>> No.11068435

>>11057580
I actually wouldn't mind a 1

>> No.11068480

>>11057635
>>11057645
haha, chumps

>> No.11068982

>>11057580
yeet

>> No.11068998

>>11057580
rollin for 9

>> No.11070367

>>11056867

>starts article with a play on Austen's opening of Pride and Prejudice

Stopped reading immediately.