/sffg/ - Science Fiction & Fantasy General

[Anonymous No.11040195]

High-Quality Space Opera Edition

FANTASY
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SCIENCE FICTION
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SF&F author listing with ratings and summaries:
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[Anonymous No.11040196]

I fucked up the OP feel free to let this die

[Anonymous No.11040197]

You sicken me

[Anonymous No.11040198]

based

[Anonymous No.11040199]

>>11040197
It's even worse for me because I am myself

[Anonymous No.11040200]

I'm not enjoying Neal Stephenson's book The Diamond Age.
Nell's development feels shallow and it all really feels like a jumble of bizarre titles in every sentence. Neo Kushan, The Fists, Nipponese, Nano System, Skull Gun and don't even get me started on the shit in the Primer.
Sorry, lads. Page 300, so not done yet. I'll keep going, but not having that much fun.

[Anonymous No.11040201]

>>11040200
The only one of the three Stephenson books I've started that I actually finished was Anathem. it's great until the humans from our universe show up and then their ship is named the Jules Verne or something like that and it felt like the bad parts of Snow Crash (the parts that Ready Player One tries to ape) again.

[Anonymous No.11040202]

>>11040195
How did you fuck this up?

[Anonymous No.11040203]

>>11040202
I just copied and pasted the text from the last thread, then copied and pasted the URL from that thread into my OP
I'm not even a regular poster in these threads, I just started reading Triplanetary today and wanted to make this thread and shit on The Expanse and Dan Simmons

[Anonymous No.11040204]

>>11040202
I suppose this was going to /lit/

[Anonymous No.11040205]

>>11040200
>Nell's development
Read what's on the menu, not what you came in wanting

[Anonymous No.11040206]

Wait this is /tv/? FUCK

[Anonymous No.11040207]

Movie when

[Anonymous No.11040208]

>>11040200
>>11040201
Cryptonomicon is his absolute best, imo. Though I'm not sure that would necessarily be considered scifi

[Anonymous No.11040209]

>>11040205
It's on the menu but served tasteless, stale and cold.

[Anonymous No.11040210]

Fuck that we /tv/ now

[Anonymous No.11040211]

>>11040200
>>11040201
>>11040208
Anathem is his best.
The rest have terrible issues with pacing and themes.
Anathem is one book through and through

[Anonymous No.11040212]

What are some sffg books with angels?
Bonus points if they are the bad guys?

[Anonymous No.11040213]

>>11040209
Take the autismo pill and you'll lap it up.

[Anonymous No.11040214]

>>11040212
Watch Babylon 5.
It will take time but it will surprise you

[Anonymous No.11040215]

>>11040195
Reynolds does not know how to end a fucking book. All three of that trilogy have shitty ass ends. And, despite having more experience, he doesn't do atmosphere nearly as good as Watts.

His best book is Chasm City.

[Anonymous No.11040216]

>>11040212
Childhood's End
The Commonwealth Saga

[Anonymous No.11040217]

>>11040212
J. A. Cipriano's /litrpg/ Legendary Builder series.

All of the men have disappeared from Heaven and Hell...and now there are a lot of lonely succubi and angels out there.

[Anonymous No.11040218]

>mfw I regularly lurk this general on /lit/
I have been reading ubik lately its my first dick apart from when I read androids as a teen and didn't really get it

[Anonymous No.11040219]

Threads like this are why sci-fi nerds are universally ignored.

You fucking weenies are so obsessed with being better than everyone else in your own fandom that you can't even agree on simple things.

Enjoy being forever on the bottom of entertainment media. You deserve it.

[Anonymous No.11040220]

>>11040217
>smut

[Anonymous No.11040221]

>>11040218
>first dick
Freudian slip, nigga

But yeah a shit book to read if its your first since being a teenager.
I'd recommend Old Man's War by Scalzi if you're just getting back in. Be warned, the later series gets reddit as fuck even if the first book is based

[Anonymous No.11040222]

>>11040215
You may have found the ending of Revelation Space as jarring as anything other than the end of the third season of Twin Peaks, but it's a lot better than any of the endings in The Expanse. it's one of the dullest franchise in the history of science fiction franchises. Seriously each episode following the idealist 'captain' and his pals from the Canterbury as they fight assorted villains has been indistinguishable from the others. Aside from the gloomy imagery, the series’ only consistency has been its lack of excitement and ineffective use of special effects, all to make science unscientific, to make action seem inert.

Perhaps the die was cast when Franck and Abraham vetoed the idea of Villeneuve directing the series; they made sure the series would never be mistaken for a work of art that meant anything to anybody, just ridiculously profitable cross-promotion for their books. The Expanse series might be anti-Christian (or not), but it’s certainly the anti-Star Wars series in its refusal of wonder, beauty and excitement. No one wants to face that fact. Now, thankfully, they no longer have to.

>a-at least the books were good though
"No!"

The writing is dreadful; the book was terrible. As I read, I noticed that every time a character was travelling between planets, the author wrote instead that the character "went on the juice."

I began marking on the back of an envelope every time that phrase was repeated. I stopped only after I had marked the envelope several dozen times. I was incredulous. Corey's minds are so governed by cliches and dead metaphors that he has no other style of writing. Later I read a lavish, loving review of Cibola Burn by the same Larry Niven. He wrote something to the effect of, "If these kids are reading The Expanse at 11 or 12, then when they get older they will go on to read Larry Niven." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you read "The Expanse" you are, in fact, trained to read Larry Niven.

[Anonymous No.11040223]

>>11040222
>making a thread just to post stale pasta

What a fucking loser.

[Anonymous No.11040224]

>no collection DDL/torrents

wtf?

[Anonymous No.11040225]

>>11040222
>shit talking Niven
"No!"

[Anonymous No.11040226]

>>11040221
I meant it's my first PKD novel, but I have been really enjoying it so far

[Anonymous No.11040227]

>>11040211
I really enjoyed Anathem but I thought it got a bit disjointed when the story moved out of the realm of the Cloister or whatever the academic sanctuary was called and became more of an action based thriller kind of story. I still think it's one of his best, tho.

[Anonymous No.11040228]

>>11040195

Reynolds is actually good. For a second I was hopeful there was a tv series being made of his stuff when I saw this thread. Although I would be scared they would fuck it up.

His stuff is so much better than the Altered Carbon/Expanse shitfest that a lot of people on this board slurp up so eagerly.

[Anonymous No.11040229]

>>11040196
its ok this is a good thred :3

[Anonymous No.11040230]

Friend recommended me Ian M Banks' Culture series

Should I start reading it /tv/?

[Anonymous No.11040231]

>>11040228
The Expanse works better as a TV show than most stuff by Reynolds would. Even though his writing is clearly influenced by cinematic narrative structures, it would be hard to make a satisfying Chasm City adaptation.

[Anonymous No.11040232]

>>11040219
this general literally exists because everyone else on /lit/ is guilty of exactly what you just said
fantasy books are for consumption man, you don't collect figurines and cosplay after reading them

[Anonymous No.11040233]

>>11040228
The Expanse is more /tv/ than Reynolds

[Anonymous No.11040234]

>>11040230
Yes, absolutely. My favourite sci-fi series.
Use of Weapons blew my dick off

[Anonymous No.11040235]

>>11040230
The Player of Games and Consider Phlebas are the best ones. I'm not a big fan of Banks since I got into Reynolds, he's too free-wheeling. His action seems inert and his science, unscientific.

[Anonymous No.11040236]

>>11040230
No. It's commies committing cultural genocide. Sickening globalist propaganda.

[Anonymous No.11040237]

>>11040195

Only Chasm City (his best book) would work as a TV series and only a 10 - 12 episode one season story at that.

[Anonymous No.11040238]

>>11040235
Banks is all about grand themes. All his books have one thing to say and they all circle back to over and over again in subtle ways.
Reynolds is just "yo what if sci-fi was gross lol"

[Anonymous No.11040239]

>>11040237
It would work story wise, but there'd be no way to film it for a TV series, at least as budgets are now.
Way too many sets and SFX

[Anonymous No.11040240]

>>11040238
>Ayyo what if we had really, really advanced technology and then it started killing us in increasingly bizarre and brutal ways because of an accident
>Ayyo what if we build walking cathedrals so that religious fanatics can stare at a gas giant literally every second of the geosynchronous day of this moon in the middle of nowhere while civilization ends?
>Ayyo what if this gangster was a pig and he becomes a civil servant?
>>11040239
>>11040237
desu The Terror makes me think of Reynolds. It's also making me want to read Horatio Hornblower books.

[Anonymous No.11040241]

where do you bois download your books from

[Anonymous No.11040242]

We're doing these threads on /tv/ now?

[Anonymous No.11040243]

>>11040195
gardner dozois has an absolutely amazing short story book come out every year with a great overview.

[Anonymous No.11040244]

>>11040242
op was retarded enough to fuck up the new thread twice

[Anonymous No.11040245]

>>11040231
>>11040237

What is really needed is a Stephen Baxter series. Perhaps an adaptation of Phase Space, each episode a different short story set in in a slightly different reality.

[Anonymous No.11040246]

anyone likes these books?

[Anonymous No.11040247]

>>11040240
The Terror is like Reynolds but that's only if you don't know Simmons. The Terror is Simmons through and through.
He likes doing his research to an autistic level and then making a neat story about it.

[Anonymous No.11040248]

>>11040241
I just got a lot of E.E. Smith on Project Gutenberg. Here's a link. It's got kind of a finnicky search engine but this site has a lot of free books in various formats.
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/author/9515
>>11040246
Dan Simmons SUCKS

[Anonymous No.11040249]

>>11040241
Libgen

[Anonymous No.11040250]

>>11040246
Fuck yes.
Though just plain Hyperion is best of all. Once it goes full space opera, it loses a lot of charm.
The first book with the Canterbury Tales style was bookino. If he managed to wrap it up in just that b book, it'd be one of the greatest of all time.
It's still very good, but that first one wew, truly great

[Anonymous No.11040251]

>>11040250
>Once it goes full space opera, it loses a lot of charm.
But that happens in Hyperion.

[Anonymous No.11040252]

>>11040241
Libgen
Mobilism
>tfw banned from bib for inactivity

[Anonymous No.11040253]

>>11040246

Next season of The Terror is going to be Hyperion.

>>11040248


>Dan Simmons SUCKS
pic related

[Anonymous No.11040254]

>>11040253
Next season of "The Terror" should be Abominable.

[Anonymous No.11040255]

>>11040253
Read Ilium and tell me he's not a hack
In fact, read Hyperion again and tell me he's not a hack
I'll call you a faggot

[Anonymous No.11040256]

>>11040246

one moment I am terrified, the next I am laughing my ass off and the next I am crying my eyes out.

such a great book.

[Anonymous No.11040257]

>>11040255
There's nothing wrong with Illium

[Anonymous No.11040258]

>>11040257
Except for the fact that a hack wrote it
And what about that horrible story about the time-traveling non-Muslim guy?
Horrible writing, politics aside.

[Anonymous No.11040259]

>>11040255

Ilium was all foreshadowing, then Olympos shit the bed hard.

>read Hyperion again and tell me he's not a hack

Ok I will.

[Anonymous No.11040260]

>>11040238
>Banks is all about grand themes
Those are all surface details. His characters all feel like players, of games perhaps, resorting to the use of weapons regardless of the nature of the matter at hand. I look to windward and consider Phlebas, a good friend of mine who stands there and has also read Banks, and see that he is burning his copy of The Hydrogen Sonata. I am going to push him into the ocean so that there is finally some gravitas here.

[Anonymous No.11040261]

>>11040255
Lol wut.

He's awesome.

[Anonymous No.11040262]

>>11040261
Only by a very limited standard. He's no LeGuin.

[Anonymous No.11040263]

>>11040260

[Anonymous No.11040264]

>>11040235
This. Would rate use of weapons higher though.

[Anonymous No.11040265]

>>11040262
Simmons does 10x the research than LeGuin
The only one who comes close is Willis
You can fault Simmons' plotting but his setting is immaculate

[Anonymous No.11040266]

>>11040265
>Simmons does 10x the research than LeGuin
That doesn't mean he's a better writer.
>his setting is immaculate
In The Terror, it's pretty cool. In Hyperion, it all falls apart. In Ilium, it's just a montage of characters and setpieces from superior works of literature in a world where Muslims exterminated all but one Jew.

[Anonymous No.11040267]

>>11040266
>. In Ilium, it's just a montage of characters and setpieces from superior works of literature
True, but I think being able to render the Illiad into a modernly interesting story is laudable.
The Earth parts of Ilium/Olympos are less interesting but the Ilium parts are absolutely great.

And I'm not just talking about Hyperion/Ilium.
All his books have level of research, Abominable, Drood, Carrion.
Simmons does his work.

[Anonymous No.11040268]

how about these books?

[Anonymous No.11040269]

>>11040268
Absolute classics. Except for perhaps the last one.
They influenced Star Wars a whole lot.

The first few are as moralistic as Star Trek TNG. Honestly good reading for impressionable kiddos

[Anonymous No.11040270]

>>11040267
>True, but I think being able to render the Illiad into a modernly interesting story is laudable.
He utterly fails to do this.
>>11040267
>The Earth parts of Ilium/Olympos are less interesting but the Ilium parts are absolutely great.
Why do you think that?
>All his books have level of research, Abominable, Drood, Carrion.
I don't care about that. I care about the quality of the product.

[Anonymous No.11040271]

>>11040266
I liked the settings in hyperion and all the diff tech and cultures tbf. I wasn't as impressed with endymion but still enjoyed it. Much better than shit like John Scalzi.

[Anonymous No.11040272]

>>11040268

Allegedly being made by Apple TV for a 2020 release. I'll believe that when I see it. Apple has been pretty slow about their TV release plans.

[Anonymous No.11040273]

>>11040268
Fantastic. But for the sweep, not the character arcs. Although many readers tend to become so committed to the Seldon plan that it hurts them to see it fall apart.

>>11040269
The ending of the last one, with that triple reveal, was fantastic.

[Anonymous No.11040274]

>>11040270
>He utterly fails to do this.
Fucking what?
Are you saying that he made the story of the Iliad LESS readable than the original?
Are you straight retarded or a time travelling Greek?

[Anonymous No.11040275]

Peter Watts show never hopefully since they'll butcher it by dumbing it down

[Anonymous No.11040276]

anyone likes Ray Bradbury although he is not really a sci-fi author?

[Anonymous No.11040277]

TV series when? It's big dumb beefcake hilarity almost from start to finish, only the first half of the first book is a bit shaky.

>Sign up as an interstellar mercenary with a force that 3d prints a new version of you every time you die
>Get sent to a world to suppress a workers uprising of sentient dinosaurs with laser cannons who rebelled and ate their overlords
>Request extraction
>Your buddies drop a missile on you because it's quicker just to print you out again after you're dead

[Anonymous No.11040278]

>>11040275
Watts is a fuckin psycho
But this books are pretty fun to read
Blindsight is magnum opus

Can never go on TV because like you said, there's no way they could translate the message

[Anonymous No.11040279]

>>11040274
It's not the story of the Iliad. The Iliad doesn't take place in space. It doesn't involve artificial intelligence or robots or 21st century scholars of the Iliad. It also isn't a book. It's a poem. You aren't supposed to read it. You're supposed to experience it. Ilium is an experience, all right-just like my last bowel movement was an experience.
>Anyone who thinks the Iliad isn't shit is pretending to be an ancient Greek
Literally kill yourself

[Anonymous No.11040280]

>>11040276
>not a sci-fi author
>Bradbury

I have a first edition Martian Chronicles btw
Feels good lads

[Anonymous No.11040281]

Given the current political climate and the success of Black Panther, a movie adaptation of Blue Remembered Earth would likely do well.

[Anonymous No.11040282]

[Anonymous No.11040283]

>>11040279
You missed my point, lad
I'm saying that the parts of Ilium (by Simmons) makes the Iliad (by Homer) far more appreciable by a modern person.
Like you said, the Iliad is a poem and that makes it a little rough to get into. Ilium by Simmons gives the story a more modern telling

[Anonymous No.11040284]

>>11040277
It would be great if they could capture the tone. But I doubt they could.

Larson is one of the gifts of the new pulp era, the cheap culture that allows quirkiness to flourish because nobody risked any money to bring him to the stage.

Put him on TV where you have to back up the story with millions of dollars and they'll worry their investment until they workshop him to death.

[Anonymous No.11040285]

>>11040195
Someone recommend me a book that's like this:

>A military starship with a name is sent on a daring mission.

>A starship is sent to investigate a mystery.

>A spaceship of any kind has adventures.

Any of these. There are relatively few sci-fi books that actually involve spaceships in a titular role. Take Ringworld. Is there a spaceship? Yes. Is it important to the plot? Fairly. But really it's only there to get to/from Ringworld. It's not one of the stars of the book.

I want a book where the spaceship IS one of the stars of the book, if not the star, the way the Enterprise is in a Star Trek series.

But I don't want a Star Trek book.

I'd enjoy something that's like the voyage of Magellan, or Sir Francis Drake, or Cook, except in space. A real space-faring adventure. So many sci-fi books involving spaceships treat the spaceships as just something they need to include so the characters can get to their destination.

[Anonymous No.11040286]

>>11040281
I read a comment on Alastair Reynolds' blog where someone begged him not to be influenced by SJWs and complained about the pronouns in the second and third books. It was cringe-inducing and I never want to see anything like it again. I hope this adaptation is never made.
>>11040283
That's Dan Simmons shoehorning in themes and allusions to pad out an otherwise unremarkable story about robots in a basically uninteresting and needlessly complex post-apocalyptic future. As I said earlier the setting is preposterous.

[Anonymous No.11040287]

>>11040285

Unto Leviathan is a bit like that. In the way that Nostromo is a player in Alien.

[Anonymous No.11040288]

[Anonymous No.11040289]

>>11040241
Mobilism my man

[Anonymous No.11040290]

>>11040285
David Brin
Sundiver
or
Startide Rising

[Anonymous No.11040291]

>>11040285
Triplanetary by E.E. Smith:

>Thus it was that the Chicago reversed her acceleration, cut off her red screen, and fell rapidly behind, while the vessels following her in their loose cone formation shot away toward another crimson-flaring leader. Farther and farther back she dropped, back to the limiting range of the ultra-cameras upon which Cleveland and his highly trained assistants were furiously and unremittingly at work. And during all this time the forces of the seven sectors had been concentrating. The pilot vessels, with their flaming red screens, each followed by a cone of space-ships, drew closer and closer together, approaching the Fearless--the British super-dreadnaught which was to be the flagship of the Fleet--the mightiest and heaviest space-ship which had yet lifted her stupendous mass into the ether.

>Now, systematically and precisely, the great Cone of Battle was coming into being; a formation developed during the Jovian Wars while the forces of the Three Planets were fighting in space for their very civilizations' existence, and one never used since the last space-fleets of Jupiter's murderous hordes had been wiped out.

>The mouth of that enormous hollow cone was a ring of scout patrols, the smallest and most agile vessels of the fleet. Behind them came a somewhat smaller ring of light cruisers, then rings of heavy cruisers and of light battleships, and finally of heavy battleships. At the apex of the cone, protected by all the other vessels of the formation and in best position to direct the battle, was the flagship. In this formation every vessel was free to use her every weapon, with a minimum of danger to her sister ships; and yet, when the gigantic main projectors were operated along the axis of the formation, from the entire vast circle of the cone's mouth there flamed a cylindrical field of force of such intolerable intensity that in it no conceivable substance could endure for a moment!

[Anonymous No.11040292]

>>11040195
Is this /lit/ now?

If you're going to read only one sci-fi military novel, it should be The Forever War.

If you're going to read only one sci-fi novel in your entire life, it should be pic related.

[Anonymous No.11040293]

>>11040292
If you're going to read one, it's Starship Troopers.
A guideline for honest military officers

[Anonymous No.11040294]

>>11040291
>The artificial planet of metal was now close enough so that it was visible to the ultra-vision of the Secret Service men, so plainly visible that the warships of the pirates were seen issuing from the enormous air-locks. As each vessel shot out into space it sped straight for the approaching fleet without waiting to go into any formation--gray Roger believed his structures invisible to Triplanetary eyes, thought that the presence of the fleet was the result of mathematical calculations, and was convinced that his mighty vessels of the void would destroy even that vast fleet without themselves becoming known. He was wrong. The foremost globes were allowed actually to enter the mouth of that conical trap before an offensive move was made. Then the vice-admiral in command of the fleet touched a button, and simultaneously every generator in every Triplanetary vessel burst into furious activity. Instantly the hollow volume of the immense cone became a coruscating hell of resistless energy, an inferno which, with the velocity of light, extended itself into a far-reaching cylinder of rapacious destruction. Ether-waves they were, it is true, but vibrations driven with such fierce intensity that the screens of deflection surrounding the pirate vessels could not handle even a fraction of their awful power. Invisibility lost, their defensive screens flared briefly; but even the enormous force backing Roger's inventions, greater far than that of any single Triplanetary vessel, could not hold off the incredible violence of the massed attack of the hundreds of mighty vessels composing the Fleet. Their defensive screens flared briefly, then went down; their great spherical hulls first glowing red, then shining white, then in a brief moment exploding into flying masses of red hot, molten, and gaseous metal.

[Anonymous No.11040295]

[Anonymous No.11040296]

>>11040195
>the only good part of /lit/ now on /tv/
Thank you

[Anonymous No.11040297]

>>11040293
The Forever War is a better account of a war from a soldier's POV.

Starship Troopers is great but it's not the best Heinlein.

[Anonymous No.11040298]

>>11040278
Yeah he's a fucking freakazoid but he's sure as hell got a seers eyes.

[Anonymous No.11040299]

>try to read Malazan
It’s fucking gay
>try to read Way of Kings
It’s fucking gay Reddit shit
>try to read three gook problem
It sucks dick
>try to read Shadow of the Torturer
Boring

God fantasy fucking sucks so hard.

[Anonymous No.11040300]

>>11040285
Anne McCaffrey's brainship series?

[Anonymous No.11040301]

>>11040285
Not Star Trek-y, but a colonizing ship takes a central role in Aurora and The Smoke Ring

[Anonymous No.11040302]

>>11040299
Maybe reading is not for you

[Anonymous No.11040303]

>>11040297
Moon is a Harsh Mistress is best Heinlein, imo

[Anonymous No.11040304]

>>11040285
The Expanse, but it sucks

[Anonymous No.11040305]

>>11040278
Someone's doing some kind of 3D rendered Blindsight deal.

http://blindsight.space

[Anonymous No.11040306]

>>11040302
I guarantee I’ve read at least twice as many books as you’ve ever even looked at so no, try again.

[Anonymous No.11040307]

>>11040299
Malazan is best fantasy in the last 20 years

[Anonymous No.11040308]

>>11040299
That's because fantasy is for teenagers and faggots.

Read alt history, that's like fantasy for adults. Island in the Sea of Time is a great place to start.

[Anonymous No.11040309]

[Anonymous No.11040310]

>>11040306
There is no accounting for taste then

[Anonymous No.11040311]

>>11040303
It's easily #2 but too sexless for me to recommend it as the best.

It's the absolute best novel of libertarian virtues ever written, though.

TANSTAAFL

[Anonymous No.11040312]

>>11040299
if you don't like malazan past book 3 don't read fantasy and move on to something else

The story of the shield anvil may be my favorite story of all time.

the chain of dogs is awesome too.

[Anonymous No.11040313]

>>11040305
That's pretty fucking based

[Anonymous No.11040314]

>>11040218
A Scanner Darkly is a great book and movie.
The three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch is a good time as well

[Anonymous No.11040315]

>>11040311
>It's the absolute best novel of libertarian virtues ever written, though.
What about A Fire Upon the Deep?

[Anonymous No.11040316]

>>11040311
What's your Number 1?

TANSTAAFL

[Anonymous No.11040317]

>>11040314
I love the scanner darkly movie, it made me check out PKD again

[Anonymous No.11040318]

>>11040317
Waking Life is better

[Anonymous No.11040319]

>>11040313
>keep absolutely still, do you understand? Absolutely still.

[Anonymous No.11040320]

>>11040315
What? A Fire Upon the Deep has Libertarian shit in it?
I mean it's a great galactic capitalist society, I can't see the libertarian aspects of it.

[Anonymous No.11040321]

>>11040316
Time Enough for Love, dude. Follow the replies.

[Anonymous No.11040322]

>>11040320
uhhh Pham Nuwen?

[Anonymous No.11040323]

>>11040321
I have that story on audio book but I've always been hesitant.
I'm gonna do it once I finish my current story.
I was gonna do Mote in God's Eye 2, but you've changed my mind

[Anonymous No.11040324]

>>11040322
That was just hyper-capitalism, not libertarianism.
EXPAND the market, not make the market cannibalize itself.

[Anonymous No.11040325]

>>11040324
oh thanks Ludwig von Mises, go fuck yourself

[Anonymous No.11040326]

>>11040315
>A Fire Upon the Deep
I'll add it to the reading list. I've got two nonfiction going right now and need to read pic related.

[Anonymous No.11040327]

>>11040326
It's seriously good.
Fire Upon the Deep is also really good.
Read/listen them both.

[Anonymous No.11040328]

>>11040324
The market is always already cannibalizing itself.

[Anonymous No.11040329]

>>11040317
I went on a massive PKD binge at one point so I'm burnt out on his drug-fueled meditations on what reality truly is.

[Anonymous No.11040330]

>>11040327
Whoops, I mean Deepness in the Sky

[Anonymous No.11040331]

>>11040285
I've written down all of these. Any more?

[Anonymous No.11040332]

>>11040323
Trips confirm. Hope it's a good reader. It's a crazy good novel.

>>11040327
I will read em both, honest.

[Anonymous No.11040333]

What is our opinion of Jack McDevitt?

[Anonymous No.11040334]

>tfw this thread is going stronger than the one on /lit/ is

[Anonymous No.11040335]

>>11040300
Also in the same vein as these while I'm thinking of it, Frank Herbert's Pandora Sequence series. Haven't actually read them yet myself though. I'm a couple books short.

[Anonymous No.11040336]

>>11040333
Like him a lot
Good hard sci-fi without the autism

[Anonymous No.11040337]

>>11040334
the best feel

[Anonymous No.11040338]

why can't /tv/ have comfy threads like this? why must we argue over capeshit and onions every day?

i wish i knew books.

[Anonymous No.11040339]

>>11040334
It's hard to discuss SF on /lit/ because the people who make the general freak out if you don't link to enough of their previous threads and they basically monopolize discussion.

[Anonymous No.11040340]

Wow how convenient. I was looking for stuff to read.

[Anonymous No.11040341]

>>11040338
Libraries are more plentiful than McDonalds.
Go read, my friend.
Find just one name in this thread and take one of their books.
You'll have fun.

[Anonymous No.11040342]

>>11040338
Stargate threads are like this
The Terror generals are comfy
But yeah the rest is shit

[Anonymous No.11040343]

>>11040339
>It's hard to discuss SF because of one or two posts complaining when someone hamhands the OP post

[Anonymous No.11040344]

>>11040333

Boomer sci-fi. Everyone drives petrol-driven cars even though it's the 23rd century and has all the attitudes of a narrow minded boomer.

[Anonymous No.11040345]

>>11040342
It's like all the patricians congregate in The Terror general.

[Anonymous No.11040346]

>>11040345
Yeah, that and Rome threads

[Anonymous No.11040347]

>>11040343
Did you miss the part about "monopolizing the discussion?" Gene Wolfe posters are also horrible and act like everyone only wants to talk about BOTNS. And then there are the Ian Brian Anderson posters. There are so many things about those threads that suck.

[Anonymous No.11040348]

>>11040342
10 years ago all of /tv/ was like that
LOST generals were fucking GOAT
I'm talking 2005

You could post a thread at night and wake up to it on page 1 with 3 responses.
It was a different time

[Anonymous No.11040349]

>>11040195
>>97600000

[Anonymous No.11040350]

>>11040342
/trek/ is good as well

[Anonymous No.11040351]

>>11040350
Don't lie on the internet

[Anonymous No.11040352]

>>11040226
I really enjoyed my first dick too.

[Anonymous No.11040353]

>>11040347
I've only read one Gene Wolf book
It had a kid turn into a grown man who fucked this pixie and had a steel rod he called "Swordbreaker"
It felt like autismo fantasy so I stopped reading his books

[Anonymous No.11040354]

>>11040350
>/trek/
I used to really enjoy the franchise, but watching with a quasi-critical eye,I simply cannot take the concept of the Holodeck seriously anymore. At first I started making my Holodeck posts as a joke ("Why don't they call it X instead of a Holodeck? The name is misleading") but I'm starting to get annoyed whenever anyone uses the Holodeck. I just can't stop thinking about all the plot holes, the unbelievable decisions that people make, the fact that it's possible for the technology to work flawlessly while not responding to controls because of some major spatial anomaly, there's so much about the Holodeck that doesn't make even a little bit of sense. And then there's the fucking Doctor. They put a bunch of EMHs in a cave system to mine dilithium or something, but they can't set up holoprojectors around Voyager? Actually, we know that they CAN and DO do this--in that episode with the Hirogen, we see it done, it's the entire plot--and no amount of handwaving can make me believe that there is some reason that makes sense diegetically NOT to have done this before. And the mobile emitter almost never malfunctions; when it does, they can fix it, no problem. It's even more unbelievable than Geordi's ability to operate on Data's positronic brain without actually being a cybernetics genius like Singh was. Why the fuck can't they make more Datas? Why the fuck can't Data experience emotions but Moriarty can? If a Holodeck replicates matter on demand, why can't the replicate and android? Why does that replicated matter lose cohesion when it leaves the Holodeck if it's replicated, rather than projected? Who decided that the Holodeck was a good idea?

[Anonymous No.11040356]

>>11040347
So people talk about what they like. If no one wants to talk about what you like then maybe no one else has read your book.

[Anonymous No.11040355]

>>11040350
That's because Shatner himself posts there

[Anonymous No.11040357]

[Anonymous No.11040358]

>>11040356
/sffg/ is cancer, face it.

[Anonymous No.11040359]

>>11040354
Is this pasta? It's fiction man calm down

[Anonymous No.11040360]

>>11040292
>The Forever War.
Friendly reminder to stay the fuck away from the sequel!

[Anonymous No.11040361]

[Anonymous No.11040362]

>>11040355
This is really the only reason to post there.

Any anon could be Shatner. He's a good anon. No tripfagging.

[Anonymous No.11040363]

>>11040358
Of course it is, but some of us have to live there. Why not make the best of things?

[Anonymous No.11040364]

>>11040363
You're failing to do that, because /sffg/ is still cancer. This is the best /sffg/ in a long time and it's not even on /lit/.

[Anonymous No.11040365]

>>11040354
so what you're saying is that you're not a fan of the holodeck

On a side note there really should be a /x-files/ general

[Anonymous No.11040366]

>>11040360
Forever Free is not painful, it's just totally unnecessary.

Forever Peace is a pretty good novel (not the sequel btw).

[Anonymous No.11040367]

[Anonymous No.11040368]

>>11040361
Based 50s aesthetic

Feel shame all of us.
We niggers live in a blighted fucking future.
By the 80s we were supposed to have colonies on the Jovian fuckin moons.

We're living in a retarded timeline

[Anonymous No.11040369]

>>11040364
It hurts because it's true ;_;

[Anonymous No.11040370]

[Anonymous No.11040371]

>>11040353
botns is a seminal literary work, you should give wolfe another shot. its also a series that gets crazier and crazier with each read through so start now; you'll enjoy the first go and probably be 'affected' the second time around.

[Anonymous No.11040372]

>>11040368
Back in the 50s no one thought we'd open the borders of western nations to the third world.

[Anonymous No.11040373]

>>11040371
IT'S HAPPENING AGAIN
SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT GENE WOLFE

[Anonymous No.11040374]

[Anonymous No.11040375]

>>11040371
Alright, I'll be openminded
What's one of his books I should read right now?

[Anonymous No.11040376]

Which of the Revelation Space book has that long-lived psychopath who loves dolphins? Sky Hausmann or something.

[Anonymous No.11040377]

>>11040376
Chasm City

[Anonymous No.11040378]

[Anonymous No.11040379]

>>11040366
>Forever Free is not painful
Respectfully disagree, it becomes a joke when "god" just starts popping people like balloons. Have yet to read Forever Peace.

[Anonymous No.11040380]

>>11040372
That's funny because I read a military report written in 1993 about the future
It said migrant immigrants were going to be the issue
It was top secret then.
The paper said that migrants would disturb the natural order of any country and that it should be avoided.
Funny how things change...

[Anonymous No.11040381]

>>11040376
Chasm City
Best book

[Anonymous No.11040382]

>>11040381
>>11040377
>>11040376

[Anonymous No.11040383]

[Anonymous No.11040384]

>>11040375
Shadow of the Torturer. Keep in mind that Severian isn't a completely reliable narrator when you read it. Continue with the series if you enjoy it.

[Anonymous No.11040385]

>>11040383
>the age when the ideal sci-fi woman was a lanklet

[Anonymous No.11040386]

>>11040382
Needs more Giger on the "What I Got" side.
Chasm City is a fucking monster nightmare

[Anonymous No.11040387]

>>11040386
>yfw Lago's mouth starts talking to you out of an alien

[Anonymous No.11040388]

>>11040195
i read the first revelation space, was kind of meh, especially the characters. enjoyed the world building though. do the characters get better in the other books?

[Anonymous No.11040389]

[Anonymous No.11040390]

>>11040235
Yeah, I think Consider Phlebas could be a movie trilogy.
It's a bit of a downer because almost everyone dies in the end, but then again the same thing happened in Rogue One, so maybe it could get made after all.

[Anonymous No.11040391]

>>11040388
Yes. Revelation Space makes more sense if you come back to it after finishing the trilogy or reading his short stories but it's kind of a lot to take in on your first try.

[Anonymous No.11040392]

didnt even finish season 5 and ive already started babylon 5 again because i was drunk for a lot of it

god damn i fucking love this show

[Anonymous No.11040393]

>>11040236
I dunno where you got the idea that Banks thought approvingly of the Culture.

[Anonymous No.11040394]

I come in peace /tv/. Please accept this token of my esteem.

[Anonymous No.11040395]

>>11040394
gtfo furry fag

[Anonymous No.11040396]

>>11040392
is babylon 5 BSG tier?

[Anonymous No.11040397]

[Anonymous No.11040398]

>>11040225
Ringworld has such a massive plot hole that he was forced to write a sequel. This is the book's most noteworthy quality.

[Anonymous No.11040399]

>>11040195
did you guys get kicked out of /lit/ finally? top fucking kek

anyway, I finally finished Dune. two thoughts:
1: I wish I read the appendices first. Learning the history of the world before the story places it into much more exciting context
2: the end was pretty fucking shit that turned into anime. Alia turning into attack of the clones yoda killing the barron and Paul "heh nothing personal kid"ing the last Harkonnen nephew is lame as fuck. Also not cool how Chani just becomes another concubine "le history will remember us as wives" like Jessica. Also Chani is literally a waifu to begin with.

I really hope the sequel makes up for the last third of Dune

[Anonymous No.11040400]

[Anonymous No.11040401]

>>11040396
They're opposites. The entire basic storyline of Babylon 5 was written before the series was started with details filled in as time went along. Battlestar Galactica was just made up as they went along which is why it was often internally inconsistent.

[Anonymous No.11040402]

>>11040394
Yiff in hell furfag

[Anonymous No.11040403]

>>11040390
Consider Phlebas is a based book
Can't say shit about a potential show
Shapeshifter main character
Nah can't happen
Great book though

As based as Consider Phlebas is, Player of Games is what is the most likely.

[Anonymous No.11040404]

[Anonymous No.11040405]

>>11040396
ive never seen bsg but id still recommend it, i like it a lot, more than trek some times, it has some corny dialogue and acting here and there but it also has god tier dialogue and characters and such that suck you in over time if you can hang on while the main plot slowly unravels for the first season and a half or so

[Anonymous No.11040406]

>>11040398
Are you talking about the autistic chant "Ringworld is unstable"?

[Anonymous No.11040410]

>>97600934
>never enough ringworld/hab sci fi
>tfw ull never read rendezvous with rama the first time ever again

[Anonymous No.11040411]

Good thread but fuck the mods
Niggers

[Anonymous No.11040415]

>>11040195
motherfucker, it was a good run /tv/

[Anonymous No.11040417]

Well I guess we should suck the mod's dick for not deleting good thread outright.

But this was the best thread on /tv/ for a while, god bless anons. May it die here in /lit/ in peace.

[Anonymous No.11040418]

>>11040415
Better than anything on /tv/
This thread will die a slow 3 day death on /lit/

[Anonymous No.11040421]

>>11040417
God bless indeed

Now that we have a bottleneck
I've read every major sci fi series

Ask me questions and shit

[Anonymous No.11040424]

>>11040403
>Here's a movie idea for ya
>Guy goes to a planet to play killer chess
>He's accompanied by a little flying robot that doesn't do anything
>When he comes back, he has sex with someone transitioning from male to female
Tough sell bro

[Anonymous No.11040426]

>>11040415

Now that we're back in our proper place, has anyone read any Gene Wolfe?

[Anonymous No.11040428]

>>11040421
have you read Time Enough for Love

[Anonymous No.11040432]

>>11040426
funny

[Anonymous No.11040444]

>>11040406
Yes

[Anonymous No.11040454]

>>11040308

Alt-history is typically autismo garbage.

[Anonymous No.11040459]

>>11040454
I liked 1632 but the following books are a chore to read

[Anonymous No.11040460]

>>11040454
Read it before you knock it; it's the best alt-history ever written.

[Anonymous No.11040477]

>>11040395
>>11040402
How rude.
I guess it's still too early for cultural enrichment.

[Anonymous No.11040535]

mods finally bailed dumbass op out

[Anonymous No.11040550]

Brandon Sanderson

[Anonymous No.11040575]

>>11040212
Scar Night by Alan Campbell

[Anonymous No.11040607]

>>11040460
Does Strange&Norrell count? There are few things better in fantasy in general, never mind alt-his.

[Anonymous No.11040615]

>>11040607
>magical alt-history
sounds like shit; read Nantucket series instead

[Anonymous No.11040623]

>>11040615
I just told you it's amazing you twat, fuck off

[Anonymous No.11040631]

>>11040623
It can't be that amazing if it's about fairytale shit.

[Anonymous No.11040661]

>>11040631
What are you even doing here?

[Anonymous No.11040664]

>>11040661
I come from /tv/

I do not come in peace

[Anonymous No.11040703]

give me some fantasy that's not epic fantasy and isn't set in medieval/renaissance europe/russia or something that looks like medieval/renaissance europe/russia

[Anonymous No.11040716]

How are the other novels of Roger Zelazny?
Which are worth reading?
I really liked Lord of Light.

[Anonymous No.11040721]

I really liked Lord of Light.
How are the other novels of Roger Zelazny?
Which are worth reading?

[Anonymous No.11040739]

>>11040225
After Ringworld recently I have to agree with the other anon.
It is shit.

[Anonymous No.11040806]

>>11040703
give me some fantasy set in russia

[Anonymous No.11040808]

>>11040207
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRuRjX3cxpQ

[Anonymous No.11040833]

>>11040806
Deathless by Catherynne M Valente

[Anonymous No.11040846]

>>11040703
Nada the lily by H.Rider Haggard.

[Anonymous No.11040886]

>>11040833
thanks

[Anonymous No.11040909]

>>11040806
Rusalka by C. J. Cherryh

[Anonymous No.11040994]

>>11040909
thanks anon

[Anonymous No.11041098]

>>11040994
Alternatively read Mignola, Baba Yaga is a pretty big part of the Hellboy series.

[Anonymous No.11041347]

The Name of The Wind is masterpiece, you can't prove me wrong.

[Anonymous No.11041412]

>>11041347
A good easy read sure. Masterpiece not even close 2bh.

[Anonymous No.11041490]

This is legit one of the best series I've ever read.

[Anonymous No.11041516]

>>11041490
And great covers too!

[Anonymous No.11041523]

>>11040273
I hatted the galacsia ending,and the strawman of the human race in 3 planets.

[Anonymous No.11041534]

>>11040331
Well the player of games from I.m Banks, has a star ship that is alive and helps him out.
Maybe some of the other culture books have something like that. Havent read them tho

[Anonymous No.11041540]

>>11040292
Self insert smut with no smut. No thanks this book is terrible.

[Anonymous No.11041545]

>when somebody claims women author are shit but they read litrpg.

[thiskillsthedarkelf No.11041552]

>>11041545
litrpg is supposed to be shit anon, it's the McDonalds of literature and no one will defend it otherwise.

[Anonymous No.11041829]

>>11040721
I tried to read book of amber but it was way too shit

[Anonymous No.11041953]

>>11041490
you posted this in the last thread & we laughed at you
do you like being mocked?

[Anonymous No.11041966]

are there any books where humans are more powerful than the aliens banding together to fight them?

[Anonymous No.11042033]

Book of the New Sun

[Anonymous No.11042057]

Just finished A Scanner Darkly. How much of what happened to Bob was a part of the DA's plan? Did they really concoct for his brain to turn to mush? Also the author's note at the end really fucked me up.

[Anonymous No.11042081]

any horror science fiction novels like the Alien series? I want a book where the characters encounter an alien who slowly hunts them down one by one

[Anonymous No.11042110]

>>11042057
I actually started reading it a few days ago but stopped in the middle
So many dull moments, I did thoroughly enjoyed the dialogue most of the time and the perpetual decrease in sanity was interesting, but at a certain point the total degeneracy and lack of relatable characters was too much for me.

Anyone know of a sci-fi book that is similarly psychologicaly interesting but doesn’t feel forcefully sci-fi and actually has interesting things happen in it?
I wish I didn’t start with Do Androids it’s so perfect and every PKD you read after just doesn’t quite cut it.

[Anonymous No.11042121]

>>11040268
the first image reminds of Foundation, cant place the other two

[Anonymous No.11042138]

>>11041966
>are there any books where humans are more powerful than the aliens banding together to fight them?
No. "Aliens" don't really exist, it's just a word we use to label demons here in the 21st century.

Only Christ can defeat demons, not human might.

[Anonymous No.11042139]

>>11040277
I had a hell of a time with these books, its everything people seem to hate these days in SF
the last book was a bit shaky, but the levels of CLEVER RUSE are amazing, this protagonist can get away with literally anything

[Anonymous No.11042218]

>>11042121
The following two in the trilogy.

[Anonymous No.11042249]

how should I read Asimov?
I checked the wikipedia entry for the foundation series and set the "List of books within the Foundation Universe" in order of publication

anything missing? the end of eternity and nemesis

[Anonymous No.11042267]

>>11040216
>>11040212
childhood's end literally has no angels.
There are some devil-looking guys, and it's implied that through timey wimey telepathy they're the original devil design, but that is where the symbolism ends.

[Anonymous No.11042277]

>>11042249
Just start with caves of steel. It's about a cop dwarf and an elf solving a murder in a dwarven city.

[Anonymous No.11042297]

>>11040195
>High-Quality
>reynolds
I bet he is very creative. Too bad he can't make his stories interesting. I never managed to finish a single book of his, it always follows the same structure:
>slow start
>introduce tons of characters
>starts to get a higher pace
>something is finally about to happen
>changes POV
>the thing we waited the whole book to see happens off scene
>throws book at wall and kys myself

[Anonymous No.11042302]

>>11041966
Mote in the god's eyes.

[Anonymous No.11042328]

>>11041490
>female author
>female protagonist
I know just how this is going to be.

[Anonymous No.11042355]

>>11040220
And it's not even good smut, it's literally litrpg.

[Anonymous No.11042358]

well I just finished the forever war
jesus, I expected starship troopers and I got a grizzly tale about how much time dilation sucks
wonder what I should read next, maybe I should finally start with some gene wolfe, or maybe some more heinlein since starship troopers is the only book of his I read

[Anonymous No.11042362]

>>11041966
Similar to this, are there any books where the Humans are the "Aliens" during a first contact scenario?
Like parts of the Bobiverse books, A Fire Upon the Deep, or Children of Time.

>>>11042328
>read "Fortune's Pawn"
>female power armor mercenary knight
>pretty awesome action, thriller, and horror elements all throughout the first book
>pointlessly shoved in romance to a space werewolf starts creeping in
>heroine loses her power armor and her agency, and becomes a pointless hostage plaything of bigger powers who all want to rescue her for being so awesome
>plot trainwrecks over the remaining two books
such a waste. If it had kept the pace of book 1, it could've been a great metroid book.

[Anonymous No.11042416]

>>11042358
>a grizzly tale about how much time dilation sucks
is that really what you took away from this book?
>A war that engulfs several generations over thousands of years
>destroying billions(?) of lives
>irreversibly changing human nature itself
>solely motivated by an inability to communicate your differences
>parts of it literal parallels to the author's time in vietnam
>"ah man time dilation sucks guys"

[Anonymous No.11042440]

>>11042358
Heinlein is kinda shit desu his only novels I really like are Starship Troopers and The Puppet Masters

[Anonymous No.11042461]

>>11042416
it was a poorly laid out half joking sentence anon
do not despair

[Anonymous No.11042474]

>>11041098
thanks bro

[Anonymous No.11042476]

>>11042358
>man goes to the future
>everyone is gay and brown

perkele...

[Anonymous No.11042481]

rate my library lads

[Anonymous No.11042508]

>>11042476
>man goes to the future
>everyone is a clone

banter aside I did have some doubts with the ending, since Man ended up being pretty close to the Taurians themselves, there is something fishy going on even if Mandella choses to just to say fuck it and go along with it
maybe the sequel expands on this

[Anonymous No.11042551]

>>11042508
>look up novel on goodreads
>top review is 5 stars from Patrick Rothfuss
ugh, gross

[Anonymous No.11042592]

>>11041490
I honestly could not get into it. It's too YA for me.

[Anonymous No.11042596]

>>11040550
is a good author

[Anonymous No.11042603]

do i want to continue with persepolis rising? the sovcit thread doesn't seem particularly interesting
why can't it go back to space adventures

[Anonymous No.11042612]

>>11040195
revelation space fucking sucked

[Anonymous No.11042655]

>>11042362
>>pointlessly shoved in romance to a space werewolf starts creeping in
>>heroine loses her power armor and her agency, and becomes a pointless hostage plaything of bigger powers who all want to rescue her for being so awesome
This is literally what I am talking about. I don't even care about romance, as long as it's not too mellow or out of place, but female authors just can't get it right. I mean, men do it too, but usually female characters are the ones who become enthralled and I just can't read about a character when all they can think about is how hot someone is and their abs.

[Anonymous No.11042659]

>>11040207
I just read the blurb on Egan's site and it fucking melted my brain wtf

>>11040212
Hell Is the Absence of God, Ted Chiang

>>11040246
big love for the first two

>>11040275
amen

[Anonymous No.11042686]

>>11042592
>too YA
What did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.11042708]

>>11040372
except it was those people in the 50's who destroyed public schools, embraced communism, and then opened the borders wide open in 1965

[Anonymous No.11042765]

Clark Ashton Smith vs H. P. Lovecraft who is better?

[Anonymous No.11042864]

>>11042686
It's written for teenage girls. Too much focus is spent on physical descriptions of characters, specifically how beautiful (or not beautiful) they are and how other characters feel about how beautiful they are. Lost track of how many times I was yanked out of a scene by the main character suddenly being self conscious about her appearance or admiring how handsome or pretty somebody was. Didn't matter what was going on in the scene, and it clashed horribly with her characterization of being some kind of hardened bad ass assassin who had spent a year doing hard labor as a slave. She goes from acting tough and thinking about murdering people to fretting about how unkempt her appearance is when a cute boy comes to visit her. It was at that point I realized I was not the intended audience for this series.

[Anonymous No.11042887]

>>11042864
Don't forget that all the politics works essentially like a college cafeteria.
She might have to violently murder someone with a bow, but the Prom's tomorrow, and the rich bully girls tore up her favourite dress!

[Anonymous No.11042935]

>>11042655
>>11042362
>if you're an assassin you only think about murder all the time
>No time for anything else, insecurities don't exist.

[Anonymous No.11042992]

>>11042935
my gripe wasn't even that she had the hots for the cook.
My issue was how the entire narrative and character shifted in relation to that. The protagonist is a hardened space mercenary power armor knight kinda person, but once the "romance scenes" happen, she's a blank generic woman character. Nothing about her character or her occupation informs her actions in the romance plot!
ESPECIALLY when HE starts blabbering about how "it's too dangerous for her to be with him" and she's all like "aaaw I'm just a defenseless little woman but I love you =(". HELLO, LADY?! You just tore apart 20 space lizards with your laser shotgun while he was cowering in the back of the ship?!
It's like this was written by two different people.
And then she spends the next two books just being a hostage, getting saved, and being a hostage again over and over with no influence on the situation. Whatever happened to the tough knight lady?!
Did the second ghost writer quit?

[Anonymous No.11043014]

Is the Witcher saga worthwhile? The Last Wish was surprisingly good, Sword of Destiny left me cold. I did notice that whether it's the translation or Sapkowski himself the writing can be very repetitive.

[Anonymous No.11043041]

>>11042887
Yeah it was all fairly simplistic as far as conflict goes. The setting did interest me a little bit but I couldn't get over the clumsy and jarring character transitions.

[Anonymous No.11043054]

>>11042362
>Similar to this, are there any books where the Humans are the "Aliens" during a first contact scenario?
The Pride of Chanur

[Anonymous No.11043056]

>>11041490
>muh stronk womyn trope
list five reasons why it's great or fuck off

[Anonymous No.11043098]

>>11041490
>the author is actually good looking
somehow this makes me think it will be good

[Anonymous No.11043128]

>>11043056
>being sexist in 2018

>>11043098
It is.

[Anonymous No.11043234]

>>11042612
Found the idiot

[Anonymous No.11043493]

>>11040390
>>11040403
you guys realize Amazon is making a series of Phlebas, right?

[Anonymous No.11043503]

>>11040241
bibliotik

>>11040207
is this actually readable or is it just Egan stroking his non-Euclidean dick?

[Anonymous No.11043532]

>>11040203
>The Expanse
Fuck you I like it.
>b-but anon it's derivative
Fuck off, it's more digestible than the crap that aged like milk.

[Anonymous No.11043576]

>>11042110
No Surrender by Hiroo Onooda, not scifi but it deals with a lot of absolutely insane psychological stuff, it's the autobiography of a Japanese soldier stranded on an island in the Phillipines after WWII who believes the war is still going on. The book gave me a lot of Dick-esque vibes. A lot of it describes the mental state of him and the other soldiers with him throughout. Really bizarre and fascinating book, very sad though. If you're explicitly looking for science fiction nothing really comes to mind aside from Dick's other works (all of which aren't so prominently about drugs) or slaughterhouse 5, which I'm assuming you've already read.

[Anonymous No.11043621]

>>11043234
it's fucking dull. maybe it's Seinfeld effect but everything I read I felt I'd seen before, and better.

[Anonymous No.11043639]

>>11043621
Mass Effect ripped it off so you probably saw it there

[Anonymous No.11043664]

>>11043098
She is pretty hot. I'd read her something else, if you know what I mean.

[Anonymous No.11043672]

>>11040399
Dune is literally anime tier even LOGH is better than that trash

[Anonymous No.11043675]

>>11042765
Thomas Ligotti

[Anonymous No.11043706]

>>11040806
Rasputin's Bastards (David Nickle)

[Anonymous No.11043715]

>>11042935
Being a bit of a sociopath that kills for money kinda doesn't lend yourself to being a fucking modern college educated libtard feminist etc

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[Anonymous No.11043887]

>>11043621
Not him, but I remember it being pretty interesting, though I haven't read it since high school so you could be right. My only major complaint was that the characters were a bit boring.

[Anonymous No.11044033]

>>11040721
The first five Amber novels are good. Creatures of Light and Darkness is great, but weird. This Immortal is a classic. A Night in the Lonesome October is fun. Doorways in the Sand and Jack of Shadows are alright if you really want more Zelazny. Don't bother with anything beyond that, though.

[Anonymous No.11044036]

>>11042476
is there already a book for this feel?
I was thinking of writing a book about a man who gets frozen in the antarctic ice during nuclear war and wakes up, sailing back to his home in England taking an odyssey across africa and when he gets home he realizes that there is nothing left.
It's not about racism but rather about the loneliness of realizing that everyone you loved and cared about died and you're living among people who just happened to take the place of where they lived. Kinda like what fallout 4 could have been but written good.
Or just a general book for loneliness?