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I want to read some Nietzsche but I cant decide which one of his books to read. Which Nietzsche book is the most poetic and well written but also has the deepest philosophical implications?

>> No.11036180

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>> No.11036227

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>> No.11036244

none of them
nietzsche is an absolute idiot

>> No.11036282

The Gay Science if you want short descriptions about what Nietzsche thought about a range of topics.

Thus Spoke Zarathustra if you want the exact same book but written as a fuck you to The Bible

>> No.11036288

>>11036149
Thus Spake Zarathustra

>> No.11036290

>>11036244
How?

>> No.11036291

>>11036290
disregard brainlets

>> No.11036316

>>11036149
all of ´em

>> No.11036320

>>11036290
he's probably a butthurt christcuck

>> No.11036341

>>11036149
Just worry about understanding him first. Human, all too human -> GoM

>> No.11036352

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>> No.11036356

>>11036320
wrong
he was the first one to write the genealogy and history of butthurt

>> No.11036388

>>11036149
Gay Science

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11036409

I was recommended The Gay Science

>> No.11036429

>>11036409
Why is it still called "gay science"? Perhaps merry science would be more appropriate?

>> No.11036432

>>11036429
In italian "Gaia" has no connotations to homosexual, so it's fine to me

>> No.11036436

>>11036432
>>11036429
but yes, i would change it to something like merry, but it's a traditional name i guess

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11036462

>Everybody knows Nietzsche for his project of the Overman
>But everybody now also criticizes that as being proto-fascist

What a disgrace. And i mean the actual project, not just the bastardization of it by the Nazis.

>> No.11036470

>>11036432
He wasn't an Italian

>> No.11036475

>>11036462
>the Overman
>"project"
spoken like a true Underman

>> No.11036488

>>11036475
We all are

>> No.11036501

>>11036488
Stop being a reactive man.

>> No.11036515

>>11036470
But anon got the book in Italian

>> No.11036550

>>11036515
yup

>> No.11036681

>>11036149
Thus Spanketh Zarathustra

>> No.11036849

>>11036149
this is what I'd do:
read Gorgias, Euthyphro, and Clouds by Aristophanes
read Emerson's Nature; notice the fissures in Emerson's argument where he implies nihilism
THEN read Nietzsche

>> No.11036859

>>11036149

Youll have to understand the Greeks first

>> No.11037550

>>11036849
Why?

>> No.11037580

Euthyphro is a good primer on arguing with religious idiots

>> No.11039662

>>11037550
>Gorgias, Euthyphro
Read What Nietzsche polemicizes, like in Death of Socrates. First read the primary, then read how Nietzsche devours it
>Clouds
Bx Kierkegaard said that it is a more fidelitous view of Socrates, and compliments Neitzsche well I believe
>Emerson
Emerson is the dialectic of Neitzsche imo. People have written about this, but idk if they use the word "dialectic," in the sense that two authors who have two polar views actually, in the radicle are the same

>> No.11039679

>>11037550
>>11039662

From Kaufman's Introduction to the Gay Science

Consider what he said about Ralph Waldo Emerson in a letter to ·Franz Overbeck, December 22,1884: I do not know how much I would give if only I could
bring it about, ex post facto, that such a glorious, great nature,
rich in soul and spirit, might have gone through some strict
discipline, a really scientific education. As it is, in Emerson we
have lost a philosopheru (VPN, 441).
Emerson was one of Nietzsche's great loves ever since he
read him as a schoolboy. But while Nietzsche was at home in
Latin and Greek, French and Italian. he read Emerson in German
translations. He not only read him but also copied dozens
of passages into notebooks and wrote extensively on the marginsand flyleaves of his copy of the Essays. In 1874 he lost a
bag with a volume of Emerson in it, but soon bought another
copy.8 In 1881, when he wrote The Gay Science, he was rereading Emerson. and the first edition of The Gay Science actually carried as an epigraph a quotation from Emerson: Literally: To the poet and sage, all things are friendly and hallowed,all experiences profitable. all days holy. all men divine.
Oddly, no edition of Nietzsche nor any of the articles or books
on Nietzsche and Emerson that I have seen gives a reference
for this quotation and Emerson's original wording. Emerson's
OWR. words are found in the thirteenth paragraph of "History/'
an essay that had had some influence on Nietzsche's own "untimelymeditation" on history: "To the poet, to the philosopher,
to the saint, all things are friendly and sacred, all events profitable,all days holy, all men divine.

>> No.11040427

>>11039662
Are you the philosophy phd guy in florida?

>> No.11040621

>>11036149
Mein Dick

>> No.11042232

>>11040427
lol no? rhetoric @ cal

>> No.11042255

>>11036432
it comes to the occitan word Gai, that means pleausre