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>we're all narcissistic to some extent

>> No.11035302

>>11035298
true

>> No.11035338

>>11035298
yes, if you aren't Jesus

>> No.11035375

>>11035298
so what

>> No.11035376

Confidence is permitted arrogance.
"Loving yourself" is narcissism.

>> No.11035379

>>11035338
Prove Jesus didn't 'die' because of his ultimate inflated ego

>> No.11035383

>>11035379
sacrifice is the ultimate form of egoism ?

>> No.11035410
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>People act altruistically only to feel good about themselves and attract attention... ergo, altruism doesn't exist.

>> No.11035414

>>11035383
Yes he martyred himself to he a prestiged catholic saint.

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>>11035298
>all religions lead to God

>> No.11035468

>>11035410
this but unironically

>> No.11035636

>>11035338
>implying a guy who thought he was literally the Messiah wasn't narcissistic

>> No.11035661

>>11035410
True altruism does exist. People who act altruistically are only half good, since they do good acts out of self-interest, but they are still good acts nonetheless.

>> No.11035664

>>11035636
He didn't /think/ he was the messiah, he WAS the messiah.

>> No.11035716

>>11035664
big if true

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>>11035661
>but they are still good acts nonetheless
>unironically being a consequentialist

>> No.11035744

>>11035720
Still good acts, but not as good as acts of kindness done out of a pure will for the benefit of others. It's not black and white.

>> No.11035752

>>11035383
According to Stirner its still egotism

>> No.11035853

>>11035383
The idea of martyrdom was actually quite popular among ancient and medieval Christians. It was sometimes seen as an "express ticket" to be with the Lord.

>> No.11035890

>>11035410
>>11035661
Lone wolf terrorism is an expression of extreme altruism.

>> No.11035894

>>11035890
Explain.

>> No.11035898

>>11035894
Willingness to commit extreme acts and lose one's own life for the sake of helping what one perceives to be an oppressed group or somesuch.

>> No.11035900

>>11035898
That depends on morality being relative.

>> No.11035936

>>11035900
Even if you were to insist on that crazy notion, you could still call suicide bombers a morally neutral term like 'selfless'.

>> No.11035940

>>11035936
Not really, since its putting other people's lives in danger.

>> No.11035956

>>11035940
That would involve defining selfless as putting the interests of -all- others ahead of your own. I think that's unnecessarily restrictive- eg if a gunman bursts in and starts shooting people, and I stand up and start shooting back, I'm being selfless even though my actions might get someone else killed.

>> No.11035959

>>11035956
(I'm assuming here that I'm initially in a good hiding place and will survive)

>> No.11035960

>>11035956
Yeah but shooting back at a shooter with a risk of killing innocents is different from a gunman or terrorist deliberately targeting innocent people just to make a point.

>> No.11036933

>>11035960
>terrorist deliberately targeting innocent people
>implying they're innocent

>> No.11037330

Anyone else think The Last Psychiatrist is the best blog on the internet? His conception of narcicissm in modern mass society is fucking cash.

>> No.11037529

>>11036933
+1

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>>11035298
>If you hate capitalism so much you should live out in the woods xD checkm8