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Les Misérables Anonymous Wed Apr 18 17:52:58 2018 No.11023444 [Reply] [Original]

Thinking of buying it but i'm unsure if i can commit. Is it interesting enough to hold me through the entire book?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 17:54:25 2018 No.11023450 Not worth reading in English. French is not very similar to English, and therefore is not translated very well.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 17:59:57 2018 No.11023475 >>11023450 >French is not very similar to English

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 18:06:13 2018 No.11023491 >>11023444 I bought the copy in your pic. Don't know shit about whether a translation is good or not but it read beautifully. Worth the time but there's a lot of digressions that you'll want to skip. Just power through. Good read.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 18:09:56 2018 No.11023514 >>11023444 Maybe try some Balzac first and see how you get on.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 18:17:58 2018 No.11023546 >>11023444 Yes, although there are sections you may want to skip (Waterloo, Paris sewers, etc.).

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 18:40:37 2018 No.11023644 File: 987 KB, 229x176, 1497955342430.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>11023475

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 18:44:55 2018 No.11023667 >>11023450 >French is not very similar to English is this what the french actually believe?

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 18:50:35 2018 No.11023689 >>11023667 I'm bilingual from birth. French is a lot more 'literary' than english. But I wouldn't advise someone against reading translations, both languages share many similarities. Traduttore, traditore

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 18:54:00 2018 No.11023704 >>11023689 I agree

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 20:58:59 2018 No.11024224 >>11023444 All Hugo's novels read quickly.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 21:00:07 2018 No.11024226 >>11023444 Why does every fucking version have the graphic from the musical? IT MAKES ME ANGRY!

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 21:02:13 2018 No.11024235 >>11023514 >Looking at a Balzac Miss me with that gay shit nigga

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 21:02:17 2018 No.11024236 >>11023444 Is it really that thick? Shit, I don't think I have stamina to see that through.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 21:03:35 2018 No.11024239 >>11023475 >>11023689 He is right, french and english are not from the same language tree.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 21:22:23 2018 No.11024300 >>11024226 I’ve got a /comfy/ folio society version my mum got for her 21st. Literally a black leather cover with gold name on the side.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 21:45:13 2018 No.11024372 >>11023450 Mono- or biling-let tier opinion. French is one of the easiest languages for english speakers to learn. It barely even has a different alphabet.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 21:47:17 2018 No.11024378 >>11024239 english is literally 45% french from origin

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 21:50:37 2018 No.11024387 >>11024378 45%? I thought it was 30%, lol but still english is hella french. Biggest difference is that the lack of stressed syllables in French

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 22:01:58 2018 No.11024422 >>11023444 I'm reading it right now. I just started so I can't tell you much but the opening book about the life of the bishop was one of the most enjoyable things I have ever read. If you are not going to read the whole book, read that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 22:04:23 2018 No.11024426 >>11024378 having a good amount of vocabulary from french doesn't mean that english and it are in the same family.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 22:04:32 2018 No.11024427 >>11023450 It's Hugo, not Flaubert. The language isn't that important.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 22:07:14 2018 No.11024438 >>11024426 French was literally the admin language in Britain for a few centuries. French has its smelly frog dick rubbed all over the English language. Hell the first arthurian literature was french.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 22:10:07 2018 No.11024453 >>11024236 Yep. It's over 1500 pages.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 22:37:04 2018 No.11024584 >>11024236 You could do around 75 pages per day for three weeks and that would be that.

>>	Anonymous Wed Apr 18 22:40:19 2018 No.11024596 >>11024426 >>11023450 French is literally the easiest language for an English speaker to learn because it's so similar.

Anonymous Wed Apr 18 22:48:15 2018 No.11024627

>>11023444
I read it in high school and really liked it. I knew nothing about the French revolution or the era at the time though, and found the second half occasionally confusing. Been meaning to go back a reread it, but it is kinda daunting when theres like 20 other new things I want to read

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 01:11:58 2018 No.11025121 >>11023444 No, is very bad

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 02:11:05 2018 No.11025288 >thought it was about the french revolution >its actually about some shitty little revolt a decade before 1848 no one cares about

Anonymous Thu Apr 19 03:22:58 2018 No.11025465

>>11024378
English is Germanic in structure (its closest equivalent is Frisian) but filled with French words after the Normans came. Sharing a vocabulary doesn't mean that they are the same.

>>11024596
It's easy to learn just because of the vocabulary overlap. The foundations of both languages are very different, with English being Germanic and French being Romance.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 03:26:06 2018 No.11025470 >>11023546 Historical sections are the best sections you dirty pleb, I would never have thought I would one day read something about sewers with such glee

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 03:27:40 2018 No.11025473 >>11025288 and this disqualifies it from being good how?

Anonymous Thu Apr 19 03:31:15 2018 No.11025480

>>11024378
>the Angles and Saxons settle England
>new language develops (Old English)
>French speaking Normans arrive
>French words begin to seep into the language and the grammar slightly changes, but still remains broadly Germanic in vocabulary and structure (Middle English)
>French is largely abandoned and English develops into modern English in the 17th century, with the King James Bible and William Shakespeare's works being very influential over the written language

tl;dr it's not a Romance language

Anonymous Thu Apr 19 04:26:16 2018 No.11025600

>>11025465

Germanic and romance families aren't all that different though in the grand scheme of things. They have many similarities, including in the realm of grammar. Compared to something like Chinese you will rarely encounter a concept that isn't in your native language in some way

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 05:26:55 2018 No.11025739 >>11025473 upset, mr. hugo?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 06:06:01 2018 No.11025821 >>11025600 well yes, but there are unique elements to Germanic languages and unique elements to Romance languages, hence the distinction.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 06:15:13 2018 No.11025838 >>11025739 oui

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 06:16:22 2018 No.11025841 how the FUCK do you learn french fast

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 06:18:28 2018 No.11025848 >>11023444 How much is acceptable to pay for Les Mis?

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 06:18:48 2018 No.11025849 >>11025841 download michel thomas' french language course, that dude is a wizard

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 06:19:20 2018 No.11025852 >>11025848 tree fiddy

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 06:19:31 2018 No.11025853 >>11025849 he'll give you a weird accent if you rely on him for pronunciations though

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 06:23:45 2018 No.11025870 >>11025849 to get to a level to read this book? idts

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 06:26:51 2018 No.11025885 >>11025870 i dont believe that was the original question

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 06:55:32 2018 No.11025966 >>11025852 kys

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 07:01:42 2018 No.11025987 >>11025848 5 sous

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 07:51:07 2018 No.11026123 >>11024226 >Buying new books >Not using libraries, used book stores and trading old books with friends You deserve the garish brand of consumerism

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 08:13:20 2018 No.11026166 >>11025480 this. its the same as saying romanian is a slavic language just because about 20~30% of its vocabulary is of slavic origin. Still, it is a romance language.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 08:17:31 2018 No.11026174 >>11024387 There are stressed syllables in French.

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 08:18:27 2018 No.11026176 I read this in spanish when I was younger, should I try to learn french and read the original? It's my favorite book

Anonymous Thu Apr 19 08:34:44 2018 No.11026219

>>11026176
it is always a good idea to read a book in the original language after reading a translation in your own language. It helps because you already know the base of the, I dare say, plot; when things happens and etc., and this helps a lot to understand new words by context or by the similarity of words in the case of
romance languages

>>	Anonymous Thu Apr 19 11:34:10 2018 No.11026896 >>11023546 >skipping Paris sewers

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