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You lads read this?

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/04/16/the-silence-the-legacy-of-childhood-trauma

>> No.10985428
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10985428

IM TELLIN YOU JOE ROGAN, I WAS GETTIN RAPED BY TEN BIG DICKS IN MY HAIRY ASSHOLE, TOOK THAT SHIT LIKE A SOLDIER COCKSUCKA

>> No.10985443

>>10985413
This guy is a fucking rat, I had to read one of his shit stories in community college. Can't stand those rotten Latin American trash humans who produce this pulp literature about their lugubrious immigrant lifestyle. I unironically hope his gay uncle raped him hard.

>> No.10985509

>>10985413
I went to see Junot Diaz speak at my university to get credit for a class. It's so obvious this man is attaching himself to whatever group will make him seem righteous and forward-thinking. He is completely self-aggrandizing and self-serving. I don't know how people can't see through it.

I seriously doubt he was raped.

On the bright side, if this guy, who is a legitimate idiot, can make it as a writer and even win literary prizes, then we can all make it someday if we try hard.

>> No.10985550
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10985550

>I was raped when I was eight years old. By a grownup that I truly trusted.
>After he raped me, he told me I had to return the next day or I would be “in trouble.”
>And because I was terrified, and confused, I went back the next day and was raped again.
>More than being Dominican, more than being an immigrant, more, even, than being of African descent, my rape defined me.
>I was confused about why I didn’t fight, why I had an erection while I was being raped, what I did to deserve it.
>Only an abiding sense of wrongness and the unbearable recollection of being violently penetrated.

HAHAHAHAHAHHAA YEAASS I WAS RIGHT

He deserves this for being a horrible writer. His slang and jejune gang-style posing justifies hard rape. Just look at this faggot who refers to himself in third person as "the Negro!"

>> No.10985564

I thought it was great. Honestly makes me sad these reactions, I know this is 4chan and everyone here hates everything, but it makes me sad that people can read that (or not read it) and react so negatively. I haven't read his novels, maybe they're too race focused as people say, but I've read some of his essays and enjoyed them.

>> No.10985585

>That violación.
>que casi me destruyó.
>the asco

There's little purpose to justify his use of Spanish, this stylistic choice offers enough retroactive justification for the violation of his agujero de culo. It's a staple of this idiotic foreign writers who don't study language beyond the facile appropriation. These words all exist in English and it does not convey an idea or linguistic idiosyncrasy that only exists in Spanish. His choice seems random and poor.

>I remember my mother telling me, after one of my depressions, that I should pray. I didn’t even bother to laugh.

Lol, this stupid baboon still retains his arrogance after having enough time to look back and realize his poor decisions. This conceited little shit stain would have probably been a lot better off with some Jésus.

>>10985564
He deserves it for his non-consensual violation of American English aesthetics.

>> No.10985593

>>10985585
Either a christfag or a gigapleb, possible both.

>> No.10985605

>>10985593
Prove me wrong cabron

>> No.10985638

>>10985564
I agree. I don't know much about the guy and wasn't a huge fan of his Oscar Wao book but it seems like this essay is genuine and came from the heart. It's worth a quick read at least to get a better idea of where the dude is coming from.

>> No.10985678

>>10985585
>This conceited little shit stain would have probably been a lot better off with some Jésus.
nice.

>> No.10985720
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10985720

>Complete irredeemable loser in high school
>completely reinvented himself and became a socially outgoing successful athletic Chad in college
Is it that easy to reinvent yourself?
>tfw thought college would be different from highscool
>tfw it's my senior year and I'm still the same loser I always was
Fuck

>> No.10985818

Like the other anon, I also saw him when he came to my college. He bitched out the room because nobody there was an immigrant and there was like, one child of immigrants. Who cares? This is How You Lose Her was all right at best. Didn’t read OP link, I’ve since come around to hating his style. Same way that other guy has, too much of the lOlsORAnduMBB Spanish interjections.

>> No.10986808

I think the essay is a strategic masterpiece before metoo allegations come down and through bedroom ceiling like a ton of bricks. Don’t know if this is going to save him because he has cattered to the libfems like no one else—we’ll see just how loyal they are to him.

Genius move though. Learn.

>> No.10986834

>>10985413
Boipucci fap material? Thank you kind anon.

>> No.10986940

>>10985550
>I went back the next day and was raped again.
i feel bad for the guy but the straightforwardness of this line made me laff

>> No.10987559

>>10985585
his use of spanigh words and slang is just to pull at the white guilt strings (most of his readers are white) his work is littered with it for no fucking reason at all.

>> No.10987565

>>10987559
Whites don’t feel guilt about spics.

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>More than being Dominican, more than being an immigrant, more, even, than being of African descent, my rape defined me.
It's almost like you're an individual person with his particular story instead of some stupid fucking identity.

>> No.10987605

>>10987565
In America they do. Immigrants.

>> No.10987741

>>10985428
Under rated

>> No.10987761

>>10986808

I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought this. As much as I like Diaz's work, this does seem to be somewhat of an attempt to "stay ahead of the weather."

>> No.10987773

>>10987601
I hope you're pretending to be a dumb ass and not really this retarded. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

>> No.10987776

>>10985585
He has to remind us that he’s Dominican and therefore oppressed

>> No.10987780

>>10985443
>lugubrious
My man!

>> No.10987787

>>10985550
>>10985585
WOW anon. Are you seriously hating on this Dominican, Africa descended rape victim? You must be a terrible person and you’re probably even white.

>> No.10987792

>>10987776
Being Dominican myself i can tell you he's fucking lying out of his ass. Dominicans fucking hate Haitians and treat them like shit (even brown people like Diaz who aren't as black as Haitians so they consider themselves superior), so if anybody is oppressed it's them.

>> No.10987822

>>10987780
I'm pretty sure I saw your post in a different thread. It's a good word!

>> No.10987965

>>10987605
Once the crop is picked, they have to go back.

>> No.10987980

>>10987792
>speaking for an entire race of people
You have to go back.

>> No.10988004

>>10987773
skin deep personality detected

>> No.10988119

>>10988004
White boi detected

>> No.10988131

Oscar Wao was a great book and this is a great essay. If nothing else it's well written. This thread is just /pol/fags crying about nothing.

>> No.10988135

>>10988131
El ogro de las americas...

>> No.10988145

>>10988131
Agreed

>> No.10988192

>>10988131
>Oscar Wao was a great book
it was like reading two retards facebook conversation

>> No.10988201

>>10988192
This is the perfect description for that book, holy shit

>> No.10988216

>>10985605
Why did Joyce write in Latin for a section of Finnegans Wake when it was basically just English words? Same situation, you’re wrong.

>> No.10988286

>>10988192
where's your pulitzer?

>> No.10988315

>>10988004
>>10988119

faggots detected

>> No.10988361

>>10988216
I know you're trolling but wow serious reprecussion ahead you idiot! How dare you compare this mediocrity to Joyce? Bruh lay off, please respect the greats

>> No.10988382

>>10988361
He's not comparing Diaz' level of craft to Joyce you fucking mong. He is comparing a similar aspect of their writing.

>> No.10988416

>>10988382
Well even then its still not the same

Joyce did a portion in all latin

This idiot is just interchanging words with english and spanish.

>> No.10988667

>>10988416
fine, say Nabokov or Tolstoy using French in some of their books then. Authors do it all the time.

>> No.10988671

>That violación

>> No.10988718

Horrible experience that I wouldn't wish on anyone, but the essay was badly written and trite.

>> No.10988738

>>10988671
>I cheated on her como un maldito perro.

>> No.10988763

>>10988667
it's a gimmick spic authors always love to drop a few spic words, always parseable from context, so their white readers can feel oh so progressive and cosmopolitan. muh abuela kills me everyfucking time

>> No.10988801

>>10988763
Okay friend we get you hate Hispanics but that's not what we are discussing here. It's the eyerolling postmodernism he is using.

>> No.10988837

>>10985720
i know that feel
vent to my, brother

>> No.10988898

>>10988801
Me I feel nothing but the utmost pity and sympathy for hispanics, homosexuals and other marginalized victim groups, as a white man I understand the discomfort I face with social justice is not even one million of the discomfort they experience every millisecond of their lives by living in a society dominated by privileged white males like myself

>> No.10988973

>>10985413
I hope everyone knows he's lying. It's pretty obvious. Dude blew his fucking MacArthur grant, never got over the fact that he only ever got published on his "im a latino dingo" schtick and thats run its course, and now he has to face the very real possibility that he will never be taken seriously again. He wrote a children's book this past year for christ's sake.

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>>10985550
rapeboner

>> No.10989003

>>10985720
If you don't work out you're never gonna "reinvent" yourself

>> No.10989025

>>10988973
yep, there was something in the news a while ago about a white poet who invented an asian pseudonym and suddenly got published everywhere

>> No.10989051

>>10988898
Im Hispanic myself, but I dont live in the States and I also hate his use of random Spanish words when there's clearly an English equivalent, it serves to no purpose. It's even cartoonish ("my violación" or some shit).

>> No.10989063

This thread makes me want to bleach my fucking eyeballs.

>> No.10989064

>>10989051
I'm sorry for oppressing you little guy. I'm also sorry because you have internalized the hate of your oppressor

>> No.10989067

>>10989025
lol what a sorry industry

>> No.10989078

>>10989064
I said I hate the guy's use of Spanish, not some "oppressor", not you. Dont twist my words, ffs, I dont even live in the US.

>> No.10989096

>>10988667
French is actually a nice language.

>>10988131
>I suddenly became infatuated with this cute-ass girl
>A state-school girl raised in Washington Heights who worked her ass off, who never ran from a fight, and who could have danced Ochún out the fucking room.
>At night I had the most vivid dreams, often about “Star Wars” and about my life back in the Dominican Republic
He writes like a 15 year old chica

>> No.10989102

>>10988131
I don't like his writing. Especially adding shit and fuck every other sentence to remind us how current he is. He seems like a man aware of how precarious his popularity is, and afraid of losing it.

>> No.10989107

>>10989096
Sounds pretty shit tbqh

>> No.10989122

>>10989078
you 'hate' it because you suffer from internalized racism, what you actually hate is yourself, and its all my fault

>> No.10989130

>>10985585
It's purposeful, if over-stylized. Read Anzaldua's Taming a Wild Tongue chapter. tl;dr'd: I want to code-switch unapologetically and not care who I piss off. I have no doubt he's inspired by that.
Or look at it this way: White people inject their non-culture into everything, so PoC should do the same because it also triggers you framecels.

>violation of his agujero de culo
/lit/ is the funniest board on this shithole.

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>>10989122

>> No.10989143

>>10989130
Gloria Anzaldua is the dyke Jose Vasconcelos

>> No.10989167

>>10989130
As an American who speaks multiple languages it's difficult to sympathize with their whinging. It sounds like they have an inferiority complex and lack confidence in their identity, which they make up by being loud and obnoxious about their poor grammar and useless slang. They are defending their inferiority. It shouldn't be difficult to master two languages without accent. I have done it, so can they.

>> No.10989201

>>10989143
I wonder if she's also woke on the JQ

>> No.10989221

>>10989167
Same. I get you, it really seems like a deliberate artistic choice, but a lot of linguistic "research" allegedly points out that people like you and I are an anomaly; it is normal for people to code-switch, and it is documented well-enough to claim that code-switching even has it's own rules, as oxymoronic as that sounds.
It doesn't offend me or anything, and the fact that others roll their eyes makes funnier to me. Of course, I'd probably understand the frustration of the many fags here if I were unable to understand both languages they employ.

>> No.10989239

>>10986808
nice post

>> No.10989250

Just the other day he was on NPR saying that all immigrants are heroes. Every single one is a hero. I didn't read it, but I assume his rapist is a hero too?

>> No.10989260

>>10989221
By code-switching you just mean mixing in words or phrases from two tongues, correct? I did that as a child with my brother, but I rarely employ it, except perhaps in my thoughts and notes, if some words are absent. I'm reading that essay about taming the tongue and it just seems somebody is upset that others like to employ grammar and have standards when it comes to their language, which is frankly a normal and healthy thing to do. The french are very defensive about their tongue.

>> No.10989286

>>10989140
The photo for your post depicts one of the less-redeemable characters from Infinite Jest, right?

>> No.10989287

>this triggered by an essay about someone getting raped
Jesus Christ /lit/, get a grip.

>> No.10989297

>>10989287
>defending the hack junot diaz
>not taking every opportunity to shit on him

>> No.10989301

>>10989025
It was one poem, that got 40 rejections under a white name, then 9 rejections under the Asian name, before getting published. Then, vetted for BAP 2015, along with 74 other poems. It was hardly "published everywhere."

>> No.10989528

Just read his wiki page:

>"I can safely say I've seen the US from the bottom up ... I may be a success story as an individual"

>bottom up

oh dear...lmao

>> No.10989555
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10989555

Women are so empathetic.

>> No.10989764

>>10989555
Honestly any chance to trash junot is welcome in my book

>> No.10989789

>>10989764
this, glad it's backfiring, hopefully there's a #MeToo in there somewhere.

>> No.10989795
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>>10989122
Fuck off, m8.

>> No.10989854

>>10986808
This this this.

>> No.10989864

>>10986808
shit's going down so he lies about being raped?lol worse than kevin spacey's excuse.

>> No.10989867

>>10989795
you seem to suffer from internalized racism, as a white guy I am not qualified to educate you on such matters, why not go talk to your abuela or other wise elder of the PoC community?

>> No.10989895

>>10989867
I don't "suffer" from anything. If I hadn't mentioned I was Hispanic you wouldn't even know it. We're all part of the same kind of human excrement, stop talking like if you're any different from me.

>> No.10989902

>>10985585
>There's little purpose to justify his use of Spanish, this stylistic choice offers enough retroactive justification for the violation of his agujero de culo. It's a staple of this idiotic foreign writers who don't study language beyond the facile appropriation. These words all exist in English and it does not convey an idea or linguistic idiosyncrasy that only exists in Spanish. His choice seems random and poor.

The Spanish is grating at first but does get justified if you read the whole essay. It's his English phrasing that's unrelentingly cliche.

>> No.10989905

>>10989895
I'm not any different from you, but unfortunately we live in a white supremacist society. I will never understand what PoC and queer people go through, honestly I believe you must be very brave and wise and have lots of valuable life lessons to teach to white people like myself

>> No.10989908

>>10989902
How did context justify his Spanglish?

>> No.10989910

Why do so many people hate Junot?

>> No.10989914

>>10989910
he's probably a serial rapist

>> No.10989915

>>10989905
You're the wet part of the human excretement that is our species.

>> No.10989918

>>10989908
Some of it doesn't need justification to be honest, but the "maldito perro" bit recurs and does indeed make possible a phrasing and meaning that would make sense but read horribly in English.

>> No.10989930

You people are fucking trash. Why do I even visist this shitstain of a website.

>> No.10989941

>>10985413
>my fear like continents and the ocean between
seriously?

>violación
seriously?

I feel like this was was written fast, out of obligation. Drown was a lot better and he usually uses the spanish more well. In Ysrael he uses the word pinga almost like a weird form of childish censorship, but violación is too "¡el caliente, la violación!"/"Oh the humanity!"

>> No.10989942

>>10989905
You sound like Eric Cartman. Funny. But I don't have any lesson, since I don't live in the US, we've basically gone through the same shit, m8..

>> No.10989949

>>10989918
I'd transladed as "fucking bitch".

>> No.10989990

>>10989949
It's sorta like that, but notice the diminutive -ito and that perro is masculine. It could be, taking into account connotation as well as denotation, translated as:
Fucking bitch
Damned dog
bad little dog
"Damn dog" is the most literal but the other ways it can be read add a lot and make that phrasing much more interesting than if it had been written in English. While I'm clearly no great fan of Diaz's writing in general, I thought this was really good and have to give credit where it's due.

>> No.10990000

>>10989990
Maldito is not a diminutive. It means damned or doomed or cursed. Not every Spanish word with the -ito suffix is a diminutive.

>> No.10990004

>>10990000
>>10989990
in fact I dont know why I said "suffix", it isnt one. It's just the way the word ends

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>>10985428
First post I ever saw on /lit/ (usually inhabit /pol/ and /vp/ ) and I am pleased to say this literally made me lol.

>> No.10990023

>>10990011
it all goes downhill from here, I'm afraid.

>> No.10990040

>>10990000
>>10990004
Oh man I stand corrected then. The etymology certainly seems to show it was never a diminutive either, so that's out.

>> No.10990045

>>10989910
Because he simply isn't likable. He's condescending and he isn't even very good at what he does. He gets heaps of praise for saying trite bullshit. He's the last guy I need lecturing me about anything.

>> No.10990046

>>10989910
He is hilariously, almost hysterically overrated.

>> No.10990051

>>10990011
Please kill yourself

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>>10989905
This is bait. This has to be bait.

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>>10989867
HOLY SHIT THE HUBRIS.

>> No.10990072

>>10990011
fucking kill yourself

>> No.10990186

>>10990055
Is this bait? Of course that was bait.

>> No.10990224

>>10987601
Basically this. We're all humans. That's our identity.

>> No.10990230

>>10990224
wtf i hate identity politics now

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>>10989867
>talk to your abuela

>> No.10991368

>>10985509
>On the bright side, if this guy, who is a legitimate idiot, can make it as a writer and even win literary prizes, then we can all make it someday if we try hard
kek this is exactly what keeps me going

>> No.10991534

>>10985585
>>10985550

>He also serves on the board of advisers for Freedom University, a volunteer organization in Georgia that provides post-secondary instruction to undocumented immigrants

>> No.10991560

>>10989910
He's Hispanic and they're jealous of his success.

>> No.10991563

>>10985443
was it that one about some guy stealing money from his friend or some shit? This guy's name seems familiar and I vaguely recall this in cc too.

>> No.10991605

>>10987965
you see that's funny. I'm an immmigrant and I still find it funny. Tell that joke (or serious statement) to a person like Diaz and they'll go apeshit on social media, where as if you would have said that to me in person, I would just push your shit in and make you wish you still had teeth to eat properly.

>> No.10991754

>>10991605
>I would just push your shit in and make you wish you still had teeth to eat properly
No you wouldn't, you're a fag.

>> No.10991792

>>10991605
That's why so many of you undesirables wind up in jail

>> No.10991844

>>10991605
>I would just push your shut in

Why are Dominicans so rapey?
Why are they so gay?
Why are you still in the US? It’s planting season. Come back around harvest time and we’ll give you a few pesos. (But you still have to go back to the jungle.)

>> No.10991953

>>10991605
t. Dominican in UWS "I'm not black" yet still acts like a nigger nigger. Bet you think you're so bright browsing lit while going to Lehman and still pretending you're hood cause you live in a fucking cesspool of loserdom. Faggot

>> No.10993235

>>10989910
Because he's a contemporary writer and /lit/ has no way of gauging books without the opinion of others to fall back on.

>> No.10993314

>>10985443
>Can't stand those rotten Latin American trash humans who produce this pulp literature about their lugubrious immigrant lifestyle.
Fucking this. Why the fuck does every Latin American work have to be the same old cliche bullshit about growing up poor in Harlem and having an identity crisis when you fuck your first white guy?

>> No.10993443

>>10985413
#himtoo

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>>10989555
>Yes, the sentences are beautiful. The mechanics+structure of his prose are a sight to behold

>> No.10993491

>>10989555
our culture is so fucking gay. just so fucking sentimental and gay

like everybody is a big squishy child wailing and then smirking when their parent takes away the other kid's toy

>> No.10993509

>>10993479
this
How could anyone get taht fucking idea

>> No.10993517

>>10985413
Just read it. It was really touching and nicely written. I don't understand why he uses Spanish though, it's annoying to have to stop reading and go to Google Translate so I can figure out what the fuck he's saying. Also I think he overdoes the "I want to seem casual so I'll start my sentences with Didn't instead of I didn't"

>> No.10994556

>>10991605
Don't come here and threaten our citizens. Get the fuck out.

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>>10990011
>(usually inhabit /pol/ and /vp/ )

>> No.10994597

>>10993491
>describes something as gay
>calls others children
Underageb&

>> No.10995655

>>10985413

Thanks for posting this OP. Genuinely moving article, despite the fact that in general I dislike J Diaz and his writing. (haven't read Oscar Wao, friends who I trust say it's good, but who knows)

>> No.10995666

>>10985443

He is gutter trash, absolutely. Bitter little brown man with AIDS

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>>10985550
>>I was confused about why I didn’t fight, why I had an erection while I was being raped, what I did to deserve it.

>> No.10995681

I guarantee you 75% of the people in this thread didn't even read the essay.

>> No.10995685

>>10987780
He misused it.

>> No.10995713

>>10989910

Middlebrow(n) writer with a serious persecution complex. Slave morality incarnate

>> No.10995717

Who is better and why, Murakami or Diaz?

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>That violación. Not enough pages in the world to describe what it did to me. The whole planet could be my inkstand and it still wouldn’t be enough. That shit cracked the planet of me in half, threw me completely out of orbit, into the lightless regions of space where life is not possible. I can say, truly, que casi me destruyó.

>> No.10995808

This article is pure fucking cringe, Jesus Christo

Reads like a 15 year old's diary

>> No.10995825

>>10995685
T. Hillary

>> No.10995831

>>10987780
Horrible word desu

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>Senior year, while everyone was getting their college acceptances, I went another way: I tried to kill myself. What happened was that in the middle of a deep depression I suddenly became infatuated with this cute-ass girl I knew at school. For a few weeks my gloom lifted, and I became utterly convinced that if this girl went out with me, if she fucked me, I’d be cured of all that ailed me. No more bad memories. I’d been watching “Excalibur” on heavy rotation, so I was all about miraculous regeneration. When I finally got up the nerve to ask her out and she said nope, it felt as though the world had finally closed the door on me.

This fucking nu-male faggot, good lord

>> No.10995936

>>10985550
>I was confused about why I didn’t fight, why I had an erection while I was being raped, what I did to deserve it.
thats hot

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>>10990011

>> No.10996211

>this fucking caffe flavored twink got his bussy stretched and now he wants revenge on the entire white race

>> No.10996778

>>10996211
Where does he even talk about race?

>> No.10996796

>>10996778

In literally everything he's ever written ever?

Are you stupid?

>> No.10996895

does anyone have the story of someone seeing junot diaz at a bar
can't remember the specifics, was at least couple years ago

>> No.10996909

>>10996796
Did you even read the essay you dumb memey fuck? Jesus. I could show you a picture of a rock that he took and you'd find some way to twist it.

>> No.10996914

>>10996909

He refers to himself as "the negro", I think that's pretty blatant.

Also if you've read any of his books or atrocious social media posts then you'd know it's 90% about race

>> No.10997078

Note how Diaz portrays himself.

>us Afro-Latinx brothers
i.e., "I'm ethnic." Hilarious that he pushes the Latino heritage so hard- "como un maldito perro"- but still uses the extremely progressive and therefore white "Latinx."
>And because I “loved” her more than I had ever loved anyone, and because I had revealed to her what I revealed about my past, I cheated on her more than I had ever cheated on anyone.
i.e., "I'm a scumbag- but don't worry, I got better, so don't feel bad about rooting for me."
>When I was a kid, I heard that dinosaurs were so big that even if they received a killing blow it would take a while for their nervous systems to figure it out. That was me.
i.e., "I'm big." This isn't reading between the lines or anything, this is actually what the words written here mean.
>I don’t think she’d ever met anyone more disinclined to therapy. I fought it every step of the way.
i.e., "I'm tough." Note here that he doesn't even say that his therapist says this- it's entirely his guess as to what the therapist was thinking, meaning it's really just his thoughts, but by saying this here he invites us to conflate it with the "objective" character of the therapist, and thus believe it. This sentence is remarkable. I would almost have to admire it on technical grounds, were it not completely dedicated to a lie.
>Mostly I underlined passages in my favorite books...And then there was this section from my own novel
i.e., "I'm deep." The answer was within me all along. Me. I'm the problem and the solution.
>The New Yorker
i.e., "I'm an enlightened modern progressive."

The title of this article is "The Silence: The Legacy of Childhood Trauma." But look- you'd never guess that title from the article itself. You'd call it "Junot Diaz: My Struggle", or some such thing. The trauma is entirely an afterthought, really an excuse to sell the Junot Diaz brand. Some people call this "virtue signalling," but that's not it- progressive virtues are part of what he's selling, but it's more than that. It's: I'm authentic, but still relatable. I made mistakes but they were just that- mistakes- not actual evidence of moral failings; and it was all someone else's fault anyway. He wants very much that you buy into the identity he's selling.
Maybe the timing of this sales pitch is no coincidence. A little background research shows that the Dominican Republic has essentially disavowed him, and revoked his Order of Merit the Dominican Republic. He left the D.R. when he was six. He's published three books in the last twenty-two years (the children's book doesn't count). He's the whitest "Negro" I've ever seen. It looks to me like he either doubts his own self-image and wrote this article to reinforce it, or is afraid of other people doubting his self-image.

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>>10996778
>Where does he even talk about race?

(You)

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>>10997092

Keep in mind these are from the last 24 hours alone

>> No.10997127

>>10997092
Wow, I think Australia should be run by Afro-Latinx heroes like Junot Diaz instead.

>> No.10997254

>>10997127
I think the world should be run by Tyrone and Shannequa. Death to all huwhite pepo amirite

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>Recently, my friends and readers have helped me confront some of the pecadillos I've committed in the past. Through them, I've gained new vistas for the understanding of the hurt I've unfortunately caused some of the mujeres fuertes to whom I've slipped my chorizo flaco.

>These thoughtful, wonderful perspectives have moved me to make another confession: when I was a young boy, a chico of only eight años, I was raped.

>I still remember the day of my fateful violación. Playing escondidas with mis hermanos, crouched in an old woodshed, barefoot and wearing only an old pair of loose-fitting pantalones. I wanted more than anything for Diego not to find me, but alas, I was only too successful.

>Tío José was a big man, although he had plenty of muscle under his grasa. I think he must have been poco tipsy, and perhaps looking for his favorite burro, who was known to occasionally rummage in the shed for hongos. I heard him push on the door, and hid in a dark corner still afraid of little Diego. "¿Ey cabrón, tu quieres un juego? Jajajaja" ¿Qué?

>I at first felt only relieved. Tío José had, after all, made me cartonería for my last birthday. He was wearing the same white, sleeveless undershirt as always, although his powerful, hairy shoulders seemed oddly tense. He unzipped his torn jeans; a thick, brown bicho tumbled out. I remember being amazed at how much more grande it was than my own small pene; so much ¡más largo y grueso!

>Without a word he turned me around and pulled down mis pantalones just a few inches. I still remember the feeling of his great tronco, moreno with the hot sun of a thousand generations of living in mi tierra, as he thrust it deep inside mi culo. ¡Ay papi! I cried as this strange culebra pulled in and out of my tight young puerta de mierda.

>¡Tonto del culo! yelled mi tío as he suddenly thrust his great asta deep. Suddenly he seemed to change; stuffing himself back into his jeans, he stumbled out of the shed. Of course mi culo was mas devastado, and I couldn't stop the horchata de hombre from flowing out not matter how tightly I clinched mi ano. ¡Ay caramba! I whimpered in desesperación. How could I ever tell abuela?

>> No.10997374

>>10997354
holy shit lmao

>> No.10997381

>>10997354
Jajajaja, mis lados!

>> No.10997383

>>10997354
this is now the official version

>> No.10997511

>>10989555
>feel a little bad making fun of that violación but whatever, just words I guess
>meanwhile neolib whymn nitpick the real events but praise the spanglish all things
not often do I learn that I'm actually a decent human being here

>> No.10997540

I dont understand anything anymore

>> No.10997670

>>10985413
>come out about your rape
>find a way to tie it into every novel you've ever written to boost sales
>don't even name the guy that raped you

>> No.10997738

>>10993314
lol wat

>> No.10997756

>>10985413
What's with Hispanics and rape? I was raped by the nephew of a famous Hispanic faggot poet, who himself was most likely raped. It's like their entire lives revolve around dance, romance, sex, and rape.

>> No.10997760

>>1098955

>macho latin guy with toxic masculinity treats women like shit

well that's a surprise

>> No.10997762

>>10997756
catholicism will do that to a people, why do you think the wholesome people of northern europe purged that shit from their cultures?

>> No.10997775

>>10997762
Why are the Bavarians so pure then? It seems to be more racial than religious.

>> No.10997782

>>10997775
yeah but thats the point, the alpine race doesnt really go for mediterranean degeneracy, so they purged that shit

>> No.10997783

>>10989167
agree
also speak multiple languages
Ive disliked this guy back when I only spoke one though, code switching itself shouldnt be the full brunt of your style, it should be contextual and situational

hes a total one trick pony

>> No.10997793

>>10997756
>I was raped by the nephew of a famous Hispanic faggot poet, who himself was most likely raped.
Im not familiar with this Borges story

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>>10985550
the NAACP board of directors is blacker than him

>> No.10997806

to me spanglish is what people who dont really understand spanish use to hide the fact they cant speak it, like those people that are like "well my parents speak it and i can understand but i dont really speak it myself" etc. theres this dude at my work who poses as a spanish speaker by speaking spanglish crap all the time, then of course spanish people try to really talk to him and he just nods stupidly like "yeah yeah spanish-noun" etc. is there any video of diaz speaking fluent spanish? is he posing? cuz ive never seen a fluent person talk like that, only people pretending to know spanish

>> No.10997817

>>10985550
i bet he was in danger of getting #metoo'd so he came with some faggy rape story to get people to feel sad for him

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>>10997354

Saved

>> No.10998301

>>10985443
Sorry, but you first read his work...where?

>> No.10998305

>>10998301
Some people like to save money and attend community college for their first two years, trustfund cunt

>> No.10998758

>>10985564
Totally agree, this was a kick in the stomach

>> No.10998813

>>10985413
>be me
>go to lit recommendations
>find out about drown
>read it
>read this is how you lose her
>great stories, they flow smoother than a swiss watch
>"from my family apartment you could smell the pear trees that had been planted years ago, four a court, probably to save us all from asphyxiation"
>this is prettty good. jpg
>go to see some of his lectures on youtube
>he's a try hard retard who tries to be hip with kids
>obnoxious speech patterns
>repeats over and over: masculinity, racism, immigrants
>mfw this guy is an idiot but is short stories are fucking good

why is this? please, compelling responses only
>

>> No.10998834

>>10987792
no, he addresses the racism in the DR against haitians

>> No.10998942

THIS MOTHERFUCKER HE'S A FUCKING LIAR

he said he was pussy magnet during his adolescene in the hood, his alter ego was fucking an older woman at 16 in one story, he said in an interview for a radio show that as kid he was worried that of getting some barrio girl pregnant.

and what he reavels in this essay? that he had his first gf during college.

insecure liar, i tell ya

>> No.10999039

>>10998834
I'll admit i didn't read the article, but it's Diaz so I'd rather be shot than read his bullshit.

>>10987980
I lived there for most of my childhood and visit it constantly, i think i can say whatever the fuck i want about it. I know most of these people, the entire country is smaller than Pennsylvania for fucks sake. That being said I'm not claiming I'm superior to them, I'm just saying that Dominicans don't have much room to talk about oppression aside from Trujillo (Who is still respected by a lot of the population).

>> No.10999956

>>10989910
Mexican DFW

>> No.11000061

>>10999956
He's dominican not mexican.

>> No.11000333

>>11000061
Thanks reddit TIL :-)

>> No.11000796

>>10999039
Do you know some of Diaz relatives?

Do you know a guy (about 18 yo) called la frecuencia Rodriguez aka Rosario something

>> No.11000810

>>10998942
it's called toxic masculinity and it's common among non-whites

i also like how his dad abandoned them and his family member raped him and he was a womanizer but somehow the problems in the dominican community are because of the white man, especially the part where he tries to blame his rape on colonial sexual violence or something, that was when i was like wow man his community will just never accept responsibility for their own lives

>> No.11000822

he seems racist, notice how the times he can't get his dick up is with black chicks? the first time he gets laid is by a slutty white stoner chick, he claimed he couldn't get hard for an entire year with his colored gf, dude is a fucking racist piece of shit

>> No.11000862

>>10997793
kek

>> No.11000868

>>10985428
fucking jej

>> No.11000869

>>11000810
What's toxic masculinity? I heard feminists talk about it but I don't what it is expect of self value meaning.

Also, why is more common among non-whites and how can you see that?

Excuse my poor English, I'm not a native English speaker and I'm kinda drunk, listening to u2 cover band in pub

>> No.11000874

test
>>11000000

>> No.11000876

it would be so rad if someone went to his readings and axed him if he can still be an authentic voice of people of color now he goes to therapy twice a week, therapy such a white thing to do, ask him if he can reconcile appropriating white mental hygiene practices like seeing a therapist with be a voice of his 'generacion', also for extra glory sprinkle in random hungarian or finnish words and when he's like wtf are you talking about ask him to be more open to cultural enrichment through finnglish

>> No.11000891

>>11000869
getting lots of women pregnant, beating up faggots, shooting people for looking at you wrong, etc. basically black stuff, but caribbean hispanics also do it, also for example the white community doesn't really have a word for "baby momma" etc. we just say "my wife" when we're talking about the mother of our children

>> No.11000981

>>11000891
Ooh I get it.
That's Sad. But why liying about these sort of things when you are a teacher in MIT? Why brag when you're a Pulitzer winning author? I mean, if you're ashamed about that, just don't bring it up, instead of bragging about women.
I mean in one of his lecture he was like
"Anyone from New Jersey? Oh, you're from Newark? I've had a girl from there"

>> No.11001001

>>11000981
thats what i mean by toxic masculinity, instead of being like "yeah i was a fuckin nerd who couldnt get laid until i started making big money" it would be a hell of a lot more authentic, but as a non-white his entire self-worth comes from bedding women so he has to pretend he's a super stud

>> No.11001100

>>11001001
Well, technically before he published Ysrael, his first short story


What's your ethnicity anon?

>> No.11001185

>>11001100
white

>> No.11001202

now that everyone knows junot diaz is a fag who got his manhood took and liked it will they still be able to assign it as required reading in urban high schools and community colleges? is his career as a minority author over? is he now relegated to niche lgbt author by these revelations?

>> No.11001207

>>11001202
or should i say... "revelacions"

>> No.11001674

>>10995685
How faggot? Correct me, I dare you!

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>>10985509
>if this guy can make it I can make it

the industry props up mediocrity because readers are mediocre

quality stuff is for an erudite minority of anti-consumers. Good luck selling

>> No.11001719

>>11001207
When he uses "tia" instead of aunt, that's fine, his parents probably talked in Spanish to him so for him is natural to say "tia Maria"

When he uses "barrio" to say hood, it's fine, that's probably how people from that place call it

When he uses "campesino" it's okay, it would be like translating rednecks in another language.

But that violacion thing was fucking idiotic. It trivializes the subject.
Think about John Fante. Sometimes he used Italian, but only when he had to.
For example, in one story Arturo's father says a "bestemmia". This concept is absent from the English language. Basically a bestemmia is a blasphemous imprecation. Case in point, in that story, that Italian father character says "porco dio"- it means "god [is a] slime".
No way to translate it in english, it would come off as dumb and non sensical. A goddamit can't be used without losing the nuance- this kind of language is considered highly rude and even controversial.

But think how ridiculous Fante would come off if he used Italian words for no reason at all while talking about his loneliness, about his ambitions, in his descriptions.

I don't know, Diaz should know better

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>>10997354
>Jajajaja
>puerta de mierda
>horchata de hombre
Jajajajajaja

>> No.11001744

>>10997762
retarded

>> No.11001798

I'm gonna write a rape essay and send it to the New Yorker as anonymous, pretending that I'm a successful starting writer in Latin America and such.

I bet they gonna publish it.

t. never been raped, but am Latin American

>> No.11001821

>>11001798
Best thing: even if they discover my identity, no one will ever found out that I lied.

>> No.11001830

>>11001821
But do you have a big pinga?

Also, why Diaz uses pinga to say dick? I thought that polla was how you say dick in spanish

>> No.11001849

>>10985413
About as well-written as cat person. Fuck new yorker.

>> No.11002198

>>11001798
why do all Latin Americans suffer from internalised racism? As a white dude, this has me worried, I wasn't aware the power of my white privilege was so powerful. You must not even realise I'm oppressing you, you poor little thing.

>> No.11002208

>>11000891
white identity is basically being a pussy whipped cuck.

>> No.11002233

>>11002198
Now that transracialism is a thing, all Hispanics want to promote their 1% of African blood for those free privilege pity points

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>>10995666
Nice trips

>> No.11002357

>>11002233

I feel like Patrice O'Neal predicted this

>> No.11002418

>>11002208
bullshit, the reason latinos and arabs act so fucking macho is precisely because they are fucking henpecked cucks so they put on machismo theater, white ppl dont need to do this

>> No.11002472

>>10995681
Try 98%.

>> No.11002490 [DELETED] 

>>11002472
i read it, it was "ok" but the thing i found problematic that he blamed his erectile dysfunction on his "violacion" but it only seemed to happen with women of color, he had no probably gettin up for a white girl...which i find a bit "problematic"

>> No.11002498

>>11002472
i read it, it was "ok" but the thing i found problematic was that he blamed his erectile dysfunction on his "violacion" but it only seemed to happen with women of color, he had no problem gettin it up for a white girl...which seems a bit racist to be honest

>> No.11002672

>>11002498

He also had no trouble getting it up with a another man's cock in his ass

>> No.11002705

>>11002672
Who wouldn't?

>> No.11002723

>>10993314
>>10985443
This is only true of American Hispanic trash. Actual Latin American literature, like Borges and Bolaño, is god tier

>> No.11002742

>>11002723
>Bolaño
Imagine being such a hack that you actually have to strawman Nazis

>> No.11003701

bump

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>>10997354
>puerta de mierda.

>> No.11004701

>>10985443

Jesus fucking christ. Lit has been hit hard by you /pol/ dorks.

>> No.11005187

>>11004701

>le pol boogeyman

>> No.11005203

>>10990011
This is some masterful bait, everything about it is perfect

>> No.11005247

What kind of name is Junot? I thought it was a chick at first lol

>> No.11005596

I just don't like the way he writes. The combination of trying to sound literary while also streetwise just doesn't sit well. It's disingenuous.

Also: tell it to a therapist.

>> No.11005757

>>11004701
it speaks volumes if you think you have to be a /pol/ack to recognize shit writing.

>> No.11005886

>>10987792
Hello fellow dominican lit bro

>> No.11005895

>>10995717
Murakami, because he's Japanese.

>> No.11007433

Ah yes, that violacion! True meme potencial!

>> No.11007463

>>10985720
Fucking fake it till you make it. Being a Chad isn't about muscles or attractiveness. You know why most Chads have good looks and /fit/ bodies? Because they make it easier to have the real qualities of the Chad: self-confidence and a mindset that you're better than everyone. All you have to do to be one is live your life not thinking, but knowing that you are superior.
>b-but it's not true, i'm not superior
It's not true because you don't believe it's true, anon. The only Chads that exist are pretenders to the throne.

>> No.11008857

>>11007463

Except he's not a Chad. He pulls bottom of the barrel art hoes and other self hating degenerates

>> No.11008971

>>10994597
>not recognizing a metaphor

>> No.11008981

>>10997756
You were raped by Octavio Paz's nephew??

>> No.11008984

>>10997756
Mine doesnt, faggot.

>> No.11008986

>>11005596
This.