Who's the final boss of philosophy?

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Anonymous Sun Apr 8 02:56:31 2018 No.10969571 [Reply] [Original]

Who's the final boss of philosophy?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 02:57:33 2018 No.10969579 >>10969571 Plato. He is the beginning and the end.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 02:57:34 2018 No.10969580 >le video game metaphor there isn't one, there are no rails to ride, git gud

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 02:59:12 2018 No.10969583 yourself

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 02:59:59 2018 No.10969586 >>10969580 tips fedora

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 03:07:21 2018 No.10969596 File: 214 KB, 645x729, wojakiqballoon6.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10969571 >implying any science can "finally" discover everything

Anonymous Sun Apr 8 03:13:00 2018 No.10969606

philosophy ended with wittgenstein when he proved that it was all language games and irrelevant and people just do what is in their perceived best interest. he was also a homosexual, so unassailable, unlike heidegger who was a little nazish so probably a closed homo and therefore untrustworthy in soundness and truthiness.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 03:15:42 2018 No.10969611 File: 8 KB, 509x619, wojakwhyfeel.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >tfw you will never get a blowie from witty

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 03:18:52 2018 No.10969615 >>10969611 I'm mesmerized how some of you fuckers can achieve cuteness unconsciously

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 03:39:39 2018 No.10969642 >>10969571 Realizing that philosophy is nothing but a massive waste of time engaged in only by pseuds who were too stupid to get into science.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 03:40:40 2018 No.10969643 >>10969642 epin

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 04:29:10 2018 No.10969708 >>10969571 my diary desu

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 04:29:58 2018 No.10969710 >>10969579 unironically this

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 04:31:33 2018 No.10969712 >>10969583 Hmmmmmmmmmmm

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 04:32:08 2018 No.10969715 >>10969642 Nah. I'm certain there are a lot of philosophy academics who are smarter than me.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 04:33:31 2018 No.10969717 >>10969571 Diogenes

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 04:34:46 2018 No.10969720 >>10969571 Mainländer

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>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 05:21:58 2018 No.10969794 File: 28 KB, 640x449, Jacques Derrida says Viola.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 05:34:21 2018 No.10969816 >>10969583 (You)

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 05:35:21 2018 No.10969820 >>10969642 This but unironically

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 06:43:09 2018 No.10969980 The final boss is living a fulfilling, ethical, authentic life with the philosophy you've learned. If not this, then what's the point?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 06:51:30 2018 No.10970001 >>10969980 this desu

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 07:01:39 2018 No.10970033 You mom

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 07:32:50 2018 No.10970126 >>10969571 Hegel obvs

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 07:35:47 2018 No.10970134 >>10969583 very philosophically spoken anon

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 07:37:15 2018 No.10970136 >>10969571 Hegel

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 08:58:21 2018 No.10970316 File: 87 KB, 1024x717, petersonheil.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10969571

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 09:05:52 2018 No.10970341 Max Stirner

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 09:10:36 2018 No.10970357 >>10970316 how does he keep getting avai viz eet?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 09:17:22 2018 No.10970382 Thrice-Greatest Hermès

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 09:25:31 2018 No.10970411 File: 7 KB, 187x269, download-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >solves all of philosophy >"hehe, nothing personal kid"

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 09:26:36 2018 No.10970417 Jordan Peterson.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 09:28:02 2018 No.10970424 File: 37 KB, 630x409, smiley-big.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10969583 decent post

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 09:29:12 2018 No.10970431 >>10969642 pure anglo propaganda

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 09:49:34 2018 No.10970500 File: 1.29 MB, 720x864, Emanuel_Swedenborg.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10970411 >steals your bitch not so fast

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 09:57:07 2018 No.10970528 File: 14 KB, 620x333, william_blake.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10970500 >teleports above you hey there nothing transcendental grampa

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 10:00:51 2018 No.10970538 >>10969571 Superiority Complex

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 10:42:47 2018 No.10970663 >>10969586 he's right tho

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>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 10:47:32 2018 No.10970683 >>10969583 this anon

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 10:49:14 2018 No.10970689 Pseudo-Dionysos

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 10:50:10 2018 No.10970692 >>10970689 AYO WE WUZ SUBLIMES AND SHIEET

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 10:51:16 2018 No.10970695 >>10969571 Best wojak Ive seen in a long while, great job anon, Im wanting to see more of your work. Here's a well deserve (you) Also, the best way to reach (One), and the most helpful process to reach his realm of realization.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 11:29:59 2018 No.10970817 plotinus

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 11:31:34 2018 No.10970820 Nick Land

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 11:32:33 2018 No.10970823 >>10969980 >ethical >philosophy try harder

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 11:34:41 2018 No.10970834 >>10969606 >philosophy ended with wittgenstein i just discovered wittgenstein: the post

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 11:56:08 2018 No.10970946 File: 59 KB, 1280x720, 1499555876109.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Unironically Ayn Rand. First successfully formulated meta-philosphy and all her conclusions were hard irrefutable.

Anonymous Sun Apr 8 12:00:43 2018 No.10970964

>>10969642
Philosophy and a properly defined and praticed philosophic system is an act of mental integration. Everyone walking the face of the earth has a philosophy whose premises they are opperating off of whether they choose to be cognizant of it or not.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 12:20:05 2018 No.10971057 >>10969980 >the point spooky

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 12:22:11 2018 No.10971067 >>10970670 >big hands >big feet >not nude >not dancing and fiddling shit art desu

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 12:24:23 2018 No.10971077 >>10971057 don't be such a hardass, Gilles

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 12:58:33 2018 No.10971222 File: 72 KB, 1138x640, MARGE.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10969571 Science.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 13:01:20 2018 No.10971237 >>10969642 philosophy is a science and anyone who claims otherwise is a capitalist shill

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 13:03:32 2018 No.10971246 >>10971237 >philosophy is a science No it's not. Don't forget to praise saint Marx.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 13:04:37 2018 No.10971250 >>10969571 Philosophy himself: meta-philosophy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 13:07:02 2018 No.10971258 File: 319 KB, 850x1200, download (1).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10970411 >"Nice Try Kido".

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 13:08:31 2018 No.10971263 >>10970946 Nobody fell for this bait. Shame.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 13:22:04 2018 No.10971305 He did his job. Every man should kill an Arab

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 13:22:30 2018 No.10971308 >>10970341 this nigga gets it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 13:23:10 2018 No.10971316 >>10971258 jesus that dude looks like a bond villain

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 13:26:52 2018 No.10971330 >>10971308 stirner got BTFO by Marx, of all people

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 13:31:33 2018 No.10971350 Parmenides

Anonymous Sun Apr 8 14:09:38 2018 No.10971543

>>10971263
Not bait. I mean every bit. No one has ever refuted her but have only resorted to smearing her.
Notice how it's always some character reference of Atlas Shrugged and never a critique of her epistemology in The Virtue of Selfishness for instance. Theres a reason for that.
Rand was the paradigm shift that blasted wide open the stagnation that all other philosophic systems that came before it.
But ther philosophical opponents have successfully memed any liking of her into "Randroidism" and mockery of libertariansim or AnCapism. Of which she is neither.
r/philosophy mods and frequenter are rife on /lit/ which is why discussion thst get's too depp into the Objectivist meta is banned on both. Every wonder why?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 14:13:12 2018 No.10971556 File: 36 KB, 803x433, 1522423820422.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10969579 I'd love some elaboration on this. How is plato 'the end'?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 14:15:14 2018 No.10971569 >>10969720 This

Anonymous Sun Apr 8 14:17:15 2018 No.10971582

>>10971543
Her ethics is terrible. Believing that selfishness, or even competition by and large, have any sort of beneficial effect on humanity is altogether useless.

What she and many others like her don’t understand, is that the free market is a gradation, it’s a combination of the sociological pressures of the collectivities’ maximum economic utility and the producer’s maximum economic utility.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 14:19:05 2018 No.10971589 >>10971258 No one cares about mystic mumboo jumboo

Anonymous Sun Apr 8 14:31:30 2018 No.10971639

>>10971582
>What she and many others like her don’t understand, is that the free market is a gradation, it’s a combination of the sociological pressures of the collectivities’ maximum economic utility and the producer’s maximum economic utility.
And if you had read Capitalism The Unknown Ideal you would know she blast this an many other anti-capitalist/mixed economy fallacies wide open.

And her proof of that the popular usage and meaning erroneously ascribed to selfishness is wrong is literally inarguable. Her indentification of ration selfishness as and actually correct and consonant with a rational and NOT psychic human being was the first real blow to the mystic's blow on morality.
Theres a reason you see commies desperately try and claim we possess even a small portion of the eusociality of bees so often. This is a desperate desire to ignore man's conceptual faculty ie sapience.
If we

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 14:33:44 2018 No.10971645 File: 219 KB, 1134x1001, kramskoi_christ_dans_le_dc3a9sert.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] J E S U S C H R I S T O

Anonymous Sun Apr 8 14:38:00 2018 No.10971666

>>10971556
Easiest and hardest. The transcendent simple.
You can also go look at how games are played to see an interesting similarity. For example, in go the professional games are, in some ways, closer in style to novice games than they are to high-skilled amateur games. Or in music, the true masters are not overly complicated, often they are much closer to the common folk singers than the technical formalists. Once people get to a certain level they tend to overcomplicate things, but true wisdom is often a return to the simple.
Philosophy and theology are a way of return - to truth, ourselves, the infinite, God. There is a certainty to each distant point, the beginning and end; it is the field in between which is complicated, and a true master is able to draw this intermediary field back down to its minimal point. A return of the field to nature. Plato was arguably the closest to completing this project.

Anonymous Sun Apr 8 14:39:53 2018 No.10971674

>>10971639
Listen I know you cut your own post off mid sentence, but this is just embarrassing, kid. Your grammar sucks ass.

Anyone who starts an argument with ‘if you read the book...’ loses the argument, by nature. I cannot tell you how many times I have paraphrased what I’ve read without telling you the book titles. Congratulations, you’ve read one book. Now read some more, the world is waiting.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 14:40:45 2018 No.10971679 >>10971645 iesu kiristo?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 14:49:34 2018 No.10971706 >>10969615 Pls elabortate

Anonymous Sun Apr 8 14:53:27 2018 No.10971715

>>10971674
He's right though. Rand proves how capitalism is Hegel's philosophy turned into a natural theology of economy. It is the perfect self-contained system, offering only positive effects with no negative potential (apart from errors of human nature stemming from those who refuse the contractual agreement).

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 14:53:48 2018 No.10971718 >>10971674 My grammar is perfectly fine and you know it skipper

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 14:56:12 2018 No.10971729 >>10969583

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 14:57:06 2018 No.10971733 File: 94 KB, 800x600, 706FBF06-FDB2-4361-9243-E65BAA7D338A.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10969571 This guy. Prove me wrong I’ll wait....

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 14:59:23 2018 No.10971750 >>10971718 Your grammar skipper? What does that mean?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 15:02:53 2018 No.10971773 >>10971237 >>10971246 False flag? No leftist is this stupid, surely.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 15:03:24 2018 No.10971777 >>10971715 I am skeptical of the use of the phrase "theology of economy" but this basically.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 15:04:28 2018 No.10971785 >>10971237 I'm a Randian capitalist shill and I agree philosophy is damn sure a science.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 15:10:05 2018 No.10971832 >>10971750 Refering to someone as skipper is light banter and is like mockingly callng them "champ". I'm guessing American cultural jargon is not your native tounge.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 15:16:28 2018 No.10971880 >>10969642 Science is grounded in philosophy. Although it overshadows it now there are still areas to be explored logically that can't be explored empirically.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 15:17:45 2018 No.10971889 >>10971832 It sounds more like faggot cultural jargon.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 15:18:38 2018 No.10971894 >>10971832 >missed the joke

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 15:19:39 2018 No.10971898 >>10971880 Science is philosophy you stupid brainlet

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 15:20:05 2018 No.10971900 >>10971880 No, science subsumes philosophy and employs it as a Team Leader.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 15:26:05 2018 No.10971920 >>10971880 This. Philosophy is the act that first forms the laws of logic, their opperants, and first teaches men HOW to think. Applied science only can then occur after this.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 15:49:20 2018 No.10972047 >>10971894 I'm still missing it. Spoonfeed a retard.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 15:50:42 2018 No.10972054 >>10971920 Philosophy is only made possible by science retroactively bringing its truth into the world. We cannot even know that philosophy exists, if not for science we would not even have philosophy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 15:51:57 2018 No.10972058 >>10972047 Because you left out the comma.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 15:52:21 2018 No.10972060 >>10972054 >if not for science we would not even have philosophy >had philosophy for thousands of years

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 15:54:01 2018 No.10972068 >>10971543 this the lfetshits simpli can't stand Rand's powers of REASON and LOGIC

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 15:54:48 2018 No.10972070 >>10971777 But economy is the only possible theology.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 15:55:54 2018 No.10972075 >>10972060 Yes, but its true possibilities only appear retroactively, thanks to science.

Anonymous Sun Apr 8 16:00:39 2018 No.10972096
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>>10969571
Probably Nietzsche. He's the ultimate anti-philosopher and it's not surprising he's the foundation of anti-philosophical movements like postmodernism. Nietzsche successfully made everyone suspicious of their deepest held beliefs and got them to disavow them, without bothering to go through the rigorous logic of formal philosophizing.
It literally put philosophy in a daze for nearly a hundred years, and we've only in recent decades seen a return to metaphysics, virtue ethics, etc.
If he's not the final boss, he and all his postmodern offspring were certainly the hardest challenge Western philosophy has faced thus far. But the Nietzschean and postmodern arguments largely held sway because most philosophers had no fucking idea about psychology and no real tools to fight against all the nonsense being thrown at them. Now that most serious philosopher also have a grounding in neuroscience and psychology, it's those very modern and postmodern thinkers that are getting crucified by their own weapons.

Anonymous Sun Apr 8 16:03:45 2018 No.10972108

>>10972054
Science doesn't bring itself into the world. People who could first grasp its laws and concomitant effects -formulate- it. And to even formulate it under a standard of thinking in the first place requires their to be a philisophic standard to opperate from in the first place.
There is a reason why the Renaissance was so transformative for humanity. Remember that we spent 99% of our existence in the cave it terror of an unknowable reality.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 16:05:14 2018 No.10972116 >>10972096 >Now that most serious philosopher also have a grounding in neuroscience and psychology Like whom?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 16:08:12 2018 No.10972128 Diogenes. He lives the philosophical life that nobody subsequent to him was able to.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 16:08:53 2018 No.10972135 >>10972096 This him and Kant. The fuckers.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 16:09:31 2018 No.10972141 >>10972075 >thanks to science. Praise science brethren! What a grand thing it is. What a wonderful glimmering plumage it has. And what a majestic beak.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 16:12:26 2018 No.10972154 File: 11 KB, 171x266, land.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Nick Land. Not the current version but the future cyborg version that has merged with a hyperintelligent antihuman AI

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 16:16:39 2018 No.10972174 >>10972096 >anti-philosophical movements like postmodernism postmodernism is a stage of civilization. It wasn't like a collection of people sat down an started it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 16:18:02 2018 No.10972183 hegel is the GOAT and the only writer that can only be disagreed with by people who don't understand him

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 16:18:06 2018 No.10972184 >>10972096 >will to power >has no clue how power works

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 16:18:17 2018 No.10972187 >>10972174 Not him and no, it is only fallaciously posited to be a stage of civilization.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 16:23:41 2018 No.10972214 >>10972154 Nick Land died with the 90s, maaan.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 16:25:21 2018 No.10972219 >>10972154 This is true brother. I await this day with joyful expectation. Accelerate! Accelerate!

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 16:26:46 2018 No.10972222 That's easy: Theodore Kaczynski His two books: TECHNOLOGICAL SLAVERY and ANTI-TECH REVOLUTION: WHY AND HOW

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 16:39:35 2018 No.10972276 I am and there is no way to refute it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 16:44:01 2018 No.10972296 >>10972276 yes

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 16:50:15 2018 No.10972322 >>10972276 >>10972296 BTFO

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 16:55:51 2018 No.10972350 >>10969583 I can't stop thinking.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 16:59:50 2018 No.10972375 >>10972154 Wish he would do something other than shitpost about immigrants on Twitter

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 17:01:32 2018 No.10972387 File: 67 KB, 168x184, 1521862619950.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10972183 Pff I say this about Rand and -I- get called a Randroid.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 18:08:26 2018 No.10972772 >>10969642 x

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 18:11:28 2018 No.10972791 me desu

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 19:15:27 2018 No.10973121 >>10969571 hegel is the only answer

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 19:20:38 2018 No.10973143 >>10973121 Stirner is the hidden boss after him

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 19:22:18 2018 No.10973149 File: 74 KB, 599x563, 1509857239885.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Life

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 19:22:33 2018 No.10973152 There are two types of philosophers: Those who were obsoleted by Nietzsche Those who grappled with Nietzsche in order to remain relevant in the modern world So obviously Nietzsche is the only philosopher who matters, really.

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>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 21:07:27 2018 No.10973720 >>10971258 Is this Thackery's mentor that killed himself on the Knick?

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 21:15:14 2018 No.10973758 Goonan

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 21:51:50 2018 No.10973877 >>10969571 The bible.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 21:59:26 2018 No.10973899 >>10969642 science IS philosophy

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 22:10:41 2018 No.10973952 File: 49 KB, 310x459, kierkegaard.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10972096 Unironically this, and everyone knows it. But it's one of those final boss battles where you get an overpowered addition to your party at the last minute.

>>	Anonymous Sun Apr 8 23:57:03 2018 No.10974466 File: 65 KB, 960x243, cropped-presentation11.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] No one mentioned German Idealism yet?

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 9 02:20:47 2018 No.10975100 >>10971330 Marx got BTFO'd by Stirner my dude. not the other way around

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 9 03:00:25 2018 No.10975271 >>10975100 >stirner's legacy is shitpost meme bait makes you think

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 9 04:27:30 2018 No.10975480 File: 9 KB, 262x192, champion.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10969571 blocks your path

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>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 9 04:39:15 2018 No.10975505 File: 311 KB, 550x711, D1BF5FDB-4FB7-44EF-A047-895879F6FEEF.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10969571 Nick Land

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 9 04:44:47 2018 No.10975519 File: 107 KB, 563x1000, finalbosslevel.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10969571 it's a tie

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 9 04:45:45 2018 No.10975523 >>10975505 is that Nick Land

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 9 04:49:01 2018 No.10975530 >>10975519 supreme faith vs supreme doubt. /thread

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 9 05:53:04 2018 No.10975700 >>10971666 thank you for the great and well thought out response.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 9 05:59:46 2018 No.10975723 >>10969583 bruh

Anonymous Mon Apr 9 05:59:57 2018 No.10975726

>>10969642
science as a tool and instrument are very limited, especially with the subjects that is beyond human sensory and/or technology,

science as a knowledge is just a series, a collections of facts, when a fair experiment to test the hypothesis is not permitted, it's where the Science stop, and philosophy will take over.

science has less 'meaningful' contribution to human civilization as a whole if our political/economic system is fucked.

science cannot teach nor distinguished anything related to ethics and morality.

science is solely about acquiring fact, and not about what exactly to do with them for the better purpose of humankind.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 9 06:01:12 2018 No.10975730 >>10970411 The categorical imperative is a retarded idea. Besides, all he did was re-word the "do unto others" quote from the Bible. Lol what a cuck.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 9 06:06:20 2018 No.10975751 >>10975505 gibe me mor rare land

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 9 06:31:56 2018 No.10975847 >>10975519 i wont sext you, unless ur a girl.

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>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 9 13:55:06 2018 No.10977533 >>10969596 >implying philosophy is science

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 9 13:56:07 2018 No.10977538 File: 49 KB, 673x650, wojakinthebox.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10977533 >implying philosophy is science

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 9 13:57:27 2018 No.10977543 >>10977538 They are in conflict mong

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 9 14:00:12 2018 No.10977555 File: 49 KB, 645x729, wojak(you).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10977543 >They are in conflict mong

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 9 14:40:16 2018 No.10977739 >>10977538 Go ahead and try to apply scientific method to nietzsche

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 9 14:45:24 2018 No.10977766 >>10969583 pack it up. This thread is over

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>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 9 15:33:56 2018 No.10977964 >>10969571 Tits and ass. That means to make void all of the "feminist X discipline" that have no merit, creativity or even rigor.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 9 15:37:42 2018 No.10977977 your own consciousness

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 9 15:38:52 2018 No.10977985 >>10977977 go back to your optical illusions Dan Dennett

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 9 15:40:02 2018 No.10977996 >>10971666 Your post was good until you showed your Christian bias

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>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 9 15:50:59 2018 No.10978046 >>10971666 >Plato was arguably the closest to completing this project. False, Satan. Aristotle was much closer.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 9 15:52:52 2018 No.10978053 File: 32 KB, 645x729, 1512155538722.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10971666 >smoke and mirrors, no actual substance classic 4chan christians

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 9 15:57:31 2018 No.10978074 >>10978023 wow

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 9 16:01:54 2018 No.10978097 >>10978046 Aristotle wasn't closer until aquinas force fed the aristotelian pov upon christianity

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 9 16:03:45 2018 No.10978105 >>10969571 Aquinas.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 9 16:09:34 2018 No.10978122 >>10969571 Derrida.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 9 16:11:02 2018 No.10978134 File: 170 KB, 753x800, st max.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Mon Apr 9 16:33:35 2018 No.10978233

>>10969571
>understands everything on instinct
>marries all human though into one single theory
>the only true way to fight his core points is misinterpreting him or denying everything
Also, that Parmenides did a real mess. He was literally the final boss of classic philosophy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 9 16:34:38 2018 No.10978238 File: 58 KB, 760x570, hegel[1].jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10978233 Fuck, forgot the pic

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 9 16:36:50 2018 No.10978249 Was Derrida anti-Hegel

Anonymous Mon Apr 9 17:05:05 2018 No.10978412
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>>10971666
First of all hello satan. Second of all I think your return to the simple is premature. Granted in God all things are simple and exist in complete unity, but I don't think you can ever really see this in the existent universe. I think multiplicity is probably the truest expression of unity. For example you imply that common folk singers have some transcendent value over technical formalists. I think it depends on what kind of technical formalists we're talking about. I could agree here if we were talking about the branch of serialists that deploy stochastic processes in music, that is a regression. But Gregorian music is also highly formal and not all the time simple. I would argue that complexity is necessary to express concepts with sufficient resolution. True wisdom I don't think lies in simplicity but rather has simplicity as its inner core or end goal, and that simplicity produces multiplicity and vice versa, they both serve their purpose in the whole scheme of the instrumentality of things, but I don't think you can ever put them together in the here and now, they only come together in the divine intellect and until then we must respect both simplicity and multiplicity.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 9 17:05:44 2018 No.10978415 >>10978249 Deleuze was anti Hegel

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 9 17:07:06 2018 No.10978419 >>10971582 >competition isn't really ever good wut m8 hahaha you don't actually think this do you? I mean fuck Ayn Rand but c'mon...

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 9 17:09:05 2018 No.10978431 >>10978415 Deleue thought he was anti-Hegel

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 9 17:14:02 2018 No.10978458 File: 15 KB, 400x387, 1518616980507.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10974466 Question: is it necessary to read Kant before Schopenhauer? I rather not jump into the Critique of Pure Reason yet due to it being a fucking beast

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 9 17:14:30 2018 No.10978464 File: 49 KB, 700x368, only right answer.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Prove me wrong.

Anonymous Mon Apr 9 17:17:11 2018 No.10978480

>>10978412
There is no prematurity, as I was not suggesting that the simple happens automatically or is something easy to attain.
The music is an analogy, looking for exceptions to the rule or getting into semantics about music theory is just wandering away from the argument so that it can be defeated in an unknown territory. What I said is just how things are.
But that said, formalism with a complexity of its own is not technical formalism.
Simplicity as method or end goal is just repeating what I said, but then you try to return it to your own position of multiplicity.
Simplicity is not multiplicity, and certainly not its production. That is a contradiction.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 9 17:25:32 2018 No.10978520 >>10977533 What is Francis Bacon?

Anonymous Mon Apr 9 18:52:38 2018 No.10978925

>>10978480
The universe is a contradiction between terms and God is the unity from which they set out. If unity was all that was necessary for divine love, then nothing would be made. But the universe was made extrapolate, so that the consummation of things may be accomplished and God may be made communicable to us by his descending from his throne of simplicity. So that we, in tracing his steps, might join him on that throne. The simple and the complex are both things of God.

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 9 20:17:36 2018 No.10979250 >>10969571 Socrates

Anonymous Mon Apr 9 21:08:00 2018 No.10979509

>>10969571
Theodore Kaczynski.

If you read "Technological Slavery" or "Anti-Tech Revolution" you'll understand why.

Civilization is a curse, the industrial revolution has been a disaster, and all these mostly self-serving "philosophers" are just caught in the great rat race...engaged in "surrogate activities".

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 9 21:35:56 2018 No.10979638 File: 85 KB, 660x495, kanyes.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Indisputably so

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 9 22:25:31 2018 No.10979766 >>10969571 epistemology starting with thales, and seeing if you can go any further back also, anything iranian

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 9 22:31:48 2018 No.10979796 >>10969583 This. Know thyself

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 9 22:33:41 2018 No.10979803 >>10969596 >implying philosophy can

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 9 23:10:06 2018 No.10979958 File: 49 KB, 800x522, flat,800x800,075,f.u5.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10978134 All "philosophers" after Stirner are functionally irrelevant. /thread

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 9 23:24:37 2018 No.10980011 >>10979958 pure autism

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 9 23:24:59 2018 No.10980013 File: 117 KB, 679x992, witty.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Unironically

>>	Anonymous Mon Apr 9 23:53:35 2018 No.10980095 >making inferences using the impressionistic implications of language

>>	Anonymous Tue Apr 10 06:32:08 2018 No.10981048 File: 122 KB, 339x438, zhuangzi.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How has he not been posted yet?

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