/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.10957396]

wtf paris review gets a new editor and none of u fags can be bothered to hold a thread about it, the plebing down of /lit/ continues

[Anonymous No.10957410]

>>10957396
It’s all hopeless. Unless you’re a Jew or feminist or some shit skinned immigrant. I have no intention to jump through hoops for these cunts and there is no way in hell I’m going to read them

[Anonymous No.10957429]

I want /pol/ to leave. You sensitive white boys are getting to ridiculous with thinking the entire world is against you.

>decades upon decades of society mistreating minorities, delegating them to a substandard quality of living
>people decide they dont want to live in a society like this
>proceed to try to find culture from different voices
>"FUCK, SHIT, IT'S WHITE GENOCIDE BECAUSE MY SHITTY POEM ABOUT HOW I'M A SAD MALE IN A TECHNOLOGICAL SOCIETY WAS REJECTED"

For real, you're probably just a bad writer. George Saunders won the fucking Booker prize this past year... white writers aren't going anywhere, you delusional fucks.

[Anonymous No.10957432]

>>10957429
too*

[Anonymous No.10957436]

Hey cool... a /pol/ 'false flag' thread!

I bet this is going to lead to some mature and fulfilling conversation. Or probably just the same bots as always, duking it out for 200 replies.

[Anonymous No.10957452]

>>10957429
No shekels from me. And no way I’m reading that judeo-sapphic rag or any other feminist crap.

[Anonymous No.10957460]

>>10957429
You forget... they don't actually read books (and definitely not literary journals). A /pol/tard saying, "there's no way in hell I'm going to read this" is like you or me saying "there's no way in hell I'm gonna fly to Mercury this weekend!"

[Anonymous No.10957466]

>>10957429
The only reason to read minorities and women is the pleasure of virtue signaling. If you have a functioning pair of testicles you find no pleasure in virtue signaling because let’s face it, it’s a cunty thing to do.

[Anonymous No.10957478]

>>10957466
Who's James Baldwin? Alice
Munro? Leopoldo Marechal? Borges?

Come back when you stop believing in bullshit dictonomies spun to generate fervor, which translates into monetary gain by people who skew statistics (all sides do this) who just think of you as a pawn.

Why are you people even allowed to read?

[Anonymous No.10957485]

>>10957396
1) You weren't going to read some magazine for the low IQ mass
2) Take it to /pol/ so you can whine about Jews with other retards
>>10957429
>>10957436
Either /pol/ false flagging or there are actual braindead liberals.

[Anonymous No.10957487]

>>10957478
Borges was practically european

[Anonymous No.10957497]

>>10957485

I don't even mind a political reading of novels, it's just... there's no reading. None of the people who participate in these threads reads.

[Anonymous No.10957499]

>>10957478
>Tries to virtue signal his love of non white authors
>lists two Argentines

What did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.10957516]

>>10957487
>>10957499
Argentinians are mestizo, retards. Just because they appear white, they're really not by your /pol/ standards. You might as well call all American indians Mongolian, or Eastern Russian for that matter.

Does this look like a white European man to you? You're looking at him with some serious CNN eyes, idiot.

[Anonymous No.10957522]

>>10957516
from that picture he easily could've been french

[Anonymous No.10957531]

>>10957516
He looks More jewey than mestizo to me. Is his foreskin intact?

[Anonymous No.10957532]

>>10957522
you'd see his olive, almost southern Italian hue if it was in colour.

Argentinians are extremely ambiguous; their skin reflects light weird... at once dark olive, then an almost sickly grey hue. I know Native Americans who are nearly full bloods who look like this.

[Anonymous No.10957536]

>>10957429
I don't deny that the triumph of minorities and women in the literary world isn't a comeuppance of sorts, however I think you're missing the broader point, you and the /pol/tards are both wrong. There is no conspiracy against white men, or white genocide. That assumes a driver at the wheel of post-modernity, when in fact no individual or group is steering the way. What is worse about the situation, and what causes so much angst for the isolated white male posters here, is how progressivism has been fully subsumed by hyperreality, identity politics and social justice theory have become another means for capital to consolidate its control. The elevation of social justice ideology is intimately correlated with the death of what remains of literary culture, as the legacy of the new left gives way to social media activism. Figures like Rupi Kaur become high literature to a generation with such an attention span that has been raised on YA fiction that makes them the heroes in a black and white good vs evil struggle. This attitude can be seen in any contemporary progressive movement. Progressive values have become the social norm and this has been reflected in literature since the 1960s, it's just that in the past 10 years things have reached a tipping point. I realize post is all over the place and it's hard for me to express exactly what I'm trying to get at. Living in the ruins of western culture is bad enough, to have to reckon with the shoddy deconstruction of the western canon at the hands of deluded social media tier progressives is much worse. There's definitely a knee jerk sexism and racism at play but that's the inevitable recourse of the dispossessed. Also if you think the publishing industry has cared about the quality of writing since the 80s you're seriously deluded. George Saunders is an anomaly.

[Anonymous No.10957545]

>>10957516
>Does this look like a white European man to you? You're looking at him with some serious CNN eyes, idiot.
Italians aren't white? What even is this post. Try telling that to an actual Argentine.

[Anonymous No.10957567]

>>10957545
Southern Italians are a motely of Greek and Turkish breeding over centures, m8...

[Anonymous No.10957583]

>>10957567
whiteness is socially constructed m8, a good progressive like you should know that.

[Anonymous No.10957591]

>paris review
>A fellow bus rider wearing three pairs of eyeglasses reached across the aisle and asked me to touch his phone. “It’s so hot,” he said. “Please. Why is the phone so hot?” I apologized and returned to my reverie of capitalism’s detritus floating against the pale Mojave sky.
>https://www.theparisreview.org/blog/2018/04/04/bazaar-land-las-vegas/#more-123791

[Anonymous No.10957592]

>>10957583
then what the fuck do you even believe in? Why backpedal and be pious?

And don't label me. I despise all your dichotomies desu.

[Anonymous No.10957617]

>>10957536
(you) for having something worthwhile to say.

[Anonymous No.10957627]

>>10957429

uhm, no sweetie, you cant tell other people what to read

[Anonymous No.10957629]

>>10957536
thanks for your post, anon

[Anonymous No.10957630]

>>10957592
I'm not the guy you were arguing with initially I just find it odd that you're arguing from a left wing and racial realist standpoint at the same time (i.e. Italians aren't white because of Turkish admixture, in actuality they're much more Arab).

[Anonymous No.10957636]

Is she even Jewish?

[Anonymous No.10957648]

>>10957630
I'm not arguing from a "leftist" standpoint... I'm arguing from a rational one. The OP implied that White Males are the utmost in terms of IQ, which is wrong entirely. Then the same guy proceeded to claim Argentinians as "white."

I'm no leftist. I'm no damn right winger either. I'm sick of you fucks politicizing every aspect of discussion, labeling people in a black/white manner based off what they say... I mean, it's not like people can hold a diverse set of beliefs, yeah?

I'm convinced that there has been an effort to corrupt our generation into buying into this mode of thought.

[Anonymous No.10957649]

>https://www.thecut.com/2018/04/the-paris-review-has-finally-found-a-new-editor.html
>Nemens is also an illustrator who runs a popular Tumblr featuring watercolor portraits of female congresswomen.

like poetry

[Anonymous No.10957650]

>>10957536
>Living in the ruins of western culture is bad enough, to have to reckon with the shoddy deconstruction of the western canon at the hands of deluded social media tier progressives is much worse
tipsfedora.jpg

[Anonymous No.10957661]

>>10957536
/thread

[Anonymous No.10957672]

>>10957650
I regret using the word progressive there, what I'm trying to get at is that there is something hellish about the resurrection of of the teleological metanarrative of progress in a world that is more hopelessly enslaved by the logic of capital than it ever has been, a process that will only accelerate with the development of technologies that will further dominate under the guise of their liberating potential. But that's right I'm just some bitter fedora tipping reactionary. Fuck nuance.

[Anonymous No.10957694]

>>10957672
Why is living in the ruins of western culture not so bad for you? Genuinely curious.

[Anonymous No.10957696]

>>10957672
>Fuck nuance.
This but unironically. People can never give a compelling argumeny for what good nuance does you; they always have to resort to political correctness.

[Anonymous No.10957697]

>>10957694
>Why is living in the ruins of western culture not so bad for you?
What?

[Anonymous No.10957698]

>>10957487
He was a Caucasian Argentine. Period.

[Anonymous No.10957704]

>>10957429

White people are the only useful people here today.
This is coming from a mestizo.

When I say this, I get a bunch of liberals hounding on me telling me that I'm submissive to whites and that I should "be proud" of my culture. Each time I tell them the bare boned truth. I don't know how the West hasn't realized that every conflict in this world is caused by minorities. Most Mexicans would agree with me, too.

Save the west, please, white man. I'll be at your side.

[Anonymous No.10957707]

>>10957536
high quality post

[Anonymous No.10957709]

>>10957697
>Living in the ruins of western culture is bad enough, to have to reckon with the shoddy deconstruction of the western canon at the hands of deluded social media tier progressives is much worse

[Anonymous No.10957713]

>>10957396
every parisian is a fag, go back to >>lgbt

[Anonymous No.10957714]

>>10957696

"Nuance" has become a buzzword, like "powerful" or "problematic".

[Anonymous No.10957718]

>>10957709
did you mean to ask why is it so bad for me? not "not so bad for me?" I'm just trying to make sure we're on the same page about what I was trying to say

[Anonymous No.10957723]

Growing old you realize there are some sad truths out there.

1) Women should not have been given as many rights as they are today
2) The white man is the factor to civilization, built in God's eye
3) The only way to save the West is to burn it.

[Anonymous No.10957734]

>>10957714
Maybe it has but I'd stand by my statement regardless.

[Anonymous No.10957746]

>>10957718
I'm wondering why it isn't so bad for you to live in the ruins of western culture since you described the other thing as much worse.

[Anonymous No.10957753]

>>10957452
>using the term sapphic to disparage someone's writing

[Anonymous No.10957784]

>>10957704
where do you live?

[Anonymous No.10957808]

There is every reason for whites to be upset that jews have nepotistically taken over our publishing industry and used it to promote degeneracy, diversity, and garbage.

Jews are bad people. They are deceptive, authoritarian, and hostile in nature, and it is the duty of every white man to learn about this and spread the information to others so that we can purge them, as has happened so many times before.

Jews do not belong in white nations.

[Anonymous No.10957905]

>>10957808
>highest IQ
>somehow manage to work their way up the ladder

I don't understand you people.

[Anonymous No.10957941]

>>10957905
You don't understand jewish ethnic nepotism? It's been documented beyond a shadow of a doubt. Jews are tribalists on steroids.

http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-myth-of-american-meritocracy/

[Anonymous No.10957948]

>>10957941
So is every other race of people. You cannot prove that anything would be any better if someone else was in power. Power structures beget power structures; as soon as a rebellion reels itself into power, the rebellion is dead; power corrupts absolutely, don't you remember?

[Anonymous No.10957967]

>>10957948
The west has been in freefall since jews began taking power, installing their own, and promoting policies beneficial to their group. Of course things are different when different people are in charge, and jews are vagabonds who've never actually been in charge of anything, so it's no surprise they can't run white institutions.

[Anonymous No.10957968]

>>10957941
And also I like how you're linking some partisan trash. I know about the Judeo-Masonic origins of The Roman Empire America, the chain that leads all the way to Solomon and before.

I probably know more about theology, occult practices, Kabbalah, and human nature than you. I know things are as best as they're ever going to be, given our near-solipsistic distillation of reality, where matter cannot touch mind, and how we're stuck, in a Kantian way, in our little fortresses forever... that is, until we solve Kant's problem... which is precisely the shadowplay being played right now, to deliver us to that amazing sphere of collective consciousness, connected directly to the Godhead.

You really don't know your left from your right here, anon.

[Anonymous No.10957975]

>>10957967
>west has been in freefall since jews began taking power

When was that, you reckon? What was the Golden Era, in your opinion?

also see >>10957968

[Anonymous No.10957978]

>>10957396
What, you expect /lit/ to actually read actual current, high-brow works? C'mon if people here read AT ALL they read whatever is the modernist author du jour.

[Anonymous No.10957987]

>>10957978
>What, you expect /lit/ to actually read actual current, high-brow works
>paris review
>high brow

give me some examples of what you're talking about anyway, if you're not just another pseud

[Anonymous No.10957988]

>>10957808

[Anonymous No.10957995]

>>10957968
Partisan trash? That was written by a jew. Not as smart as you're pretending to be, are you?

>>10957975
Jews have been attacking whites since they got released from the shtetl 200 years ago, but mainly over the course of the last century, culturally dominant since the 60s, solidified in other ways during the 90s. This all coinciding with the demise of the Wasp elite who had to a large extent kept these psychopathic semites at bay.

[Anonymous No.10957997]

>>10957396
>wtf paris review gets a new editor and none of u fags can be bothered to hold a thread about it, the plebing down of /lit/ continues

Who seriously gives a single shit about the paris review in the current year?

I suspect even the CIA doesn't fund them anymore.

>>10957410
fpbp, btw.

[Anonymous No.10958004]

>>10957987
I don't read Paris Review and I haven't for a couple years now because I just don't have the time. But I still subscribe to Blanc, Math, Collectible Dry, LA Review of Books, n+1, and Luncheon are all the things I subscribe too as of right now but plan to cut out LARB

[Anonymous No.10958008]

>>10957995
>Self-hating Jew, a writer, mind you, takes a paycheck from any publication who will let them write for him.

lol I wrote for some shitty ANTIFA blog last year, getting paid $10 an article... and it took me usually 15 minutes to churn out one of those things.

But, if you buy into the JQ, you must concede that all your thinkers in your field contest that they feel like the Jews have been in charge from the era of Solomon, then proceeded to smash Pagan fortitude by writing the New Testament. I believe the Rothchild banking dynasty predates your estimation there.

When were they let out of the shell? Who let them out?

[Anonymous No.10958010]

>>10957995
Ben Shapiro's also a Jew. I thought you /pol/ idiots hated him too.

[Anonymous No.10958022]

>>10957995
Wasp elite? What the fuck... Do you even know about The Jesuits?
You know the founding fathers were mostly Freemasons, yeah? Freemasons who took their ritual from Talmudic law?

You might be retarded. Congrats on getting riled up over memes on /pol/, you bitch-of-the-CIA.

[Anonymous No.10958041]

>>10958004
>Luncheon
>“We wanted to try to incorporate that spirit when you take the time to sit down and eat with friends,” says von Hofmannsthal, while absentmindedly plaiting her hair. “But it’s not necessarily high-end. It’s meant to be playful and inclusive. The perfect lunch could be eating a jam sandwich on a park bench.”
>Math
>Proudly made in Brooklyn, Math magazine is a provocative and sexy print quarterly for adults that brings a powerful message of sensual pleasure between the hands. The celebration of sensuality and kinks are gathered in a well-packaged canvas where each readers will find his/her lusty path.

Collectible Dry is pretty cringeworthy. N+1 has had some good stuff over the years. I actually like LARB and Blanc is ok. None of those publications are particularly high brow, most are Bushwick tier New Yorker lite aestheticized political commodity fetishism masquerading as cultural criticism. I bet you unironically read Jacobin too. You're a parody of a person.

[Anonymous No.10958045]

>>10958008
That's a very important essay, but I'm not surprised you aren't aware of it or the author if you were writing for antifa last year.

>When were they let out of the shell?
The *shtetl* guy, not the shell lol.

Seriously, stop being so reactive and quick to present yourself as educated and start learning about the jewish problem, and one day your intellect might match your bravado.

[Anonymous No.10958050]

>>10958022
You're an idiot. Stop posting here.

[Anonymous No.10958054]

[Anonymous No.10958062]

>>10958045
It's not an important essay. If you actually read any literature, you would know the ancient Bacchus worship that was absorbed in Abramamic religion in esoteric mysticism.

I never claimed to support ANTIFA... I just took Soros' money for business' sake.

You have nothing. You're getting semantic and same-fagging now.
The JQ is a product of mere human resentment over power. You cannot prove to me that things would be any better if any other group was in charge.

You're the reactionary here, dude.

[Anonymous No.10958078]

>>10958041
I don't Jacobin in fact. Never liked it. But I would hardly consider NY in the same tier as the others. Given the age we're in I'd hardly call any print in any form truly high brow so perhaps I'll concede that point to you, but I would still say that in the tiers of print magazine New Yorker is very close to the bottom.

[Anonymous No.10958087]

>>10957995
>WASP elite
>totally well adjusted good people
>Jewish elite
>EVIL EVIL EVIL

[Anonymous No.10958092]

>>10957429
those 'marginalized voices' all happen to sound exactly the same. Upper Middle Class kids from the cosmopolitan urban elites who get all their lines from hackneyed social media discourse. These people are not bringing anything new to the table, they are deracinated narcissists as out of touch with western literary culture as with the remains of their 'authentic' 'marginalized' culture, creatures of the panopticon with no roots or past to speak of.

[Anonymous No.10958094]

>>10958050
Why? It's a well recorded fact that most of the founding fathers of the United States were Freemasons...

The Masonic imagery present in DC, and printed on the money is no coincidence.

[Anonymous No.10958102]

>>10958092
Having lived in Brooklyn and attended uni in Montreal I know way too many people who are as you describe exactly.

[Anonymous No.10958106]

>>10958092
Think for a second... all the Greats you read about, the voices that withstood the tides of time, filtered through from the rest, and believe me there's a LOT of writing that falls into that "Rest" category. All eras have these failures, ones who publish, but sit on shelves, delegated to their closet to be found by their grandchildren, or merely thrown away.

It's why the past seems so enchanting: you were not there to experience the torrent of mediocre art that was pedaled. Only in retrospect can Greatness be seen, and regarded highly.

[Anonymous No.10958116]

>>10958106
>>10958092
both of you are midwits, im done with this fucking site for the next 4 days. unbelievable, each post you two have made could’ve been summoned from a text generator by using frog and stirner avis from twitter as inputs. disgusting normalfags

[Anonymous No.10958124]

>>10958116
Go away, faggot.
All your points you made in this thread could be squashed by five seconds of me using logic.

Back to /pol/ now to pretend like you're not addicted to seeing big Nigger cock pound a white Aryan pussy, you bestial animal human.

[Anonymous No.10958126]

>>10958062
You struck out twice and showed your hand as uninformed and not even close to as intelligent as you were making yourself out to be. If you are white you are the lowest of the low. It's one thing to be disinterested, it's another to be gaudy about working for the tribe who sees your own people as their enemy while being unable to recognize them as your own. It's pathetic.

>>10958087
Jews are sick, inbred gypsy parasites from the desert. Evil has some religious undertones I'm not fond of but it's pretty accurate.

>>10958094
It's neither here nor there. We're talking about alien semites here. That's where the problem lies.

[Anonymous No.10958127]

>>10957536
>tfw ''the dispossessed'' probably come from a wealthier background than you

[Anonymous No.10958129]

>>10958124
I'm so confused as to who you all are referring to, and who's arguing which side.

[Anonymous No.10958136]

>>10958124
>brings up cucking
Gee, I wonder who could be behind that post

[Anonymous No.10958140]

>>10958126
>Doesn't know a literal-who who took all his points from that terrible Culture of Critique book that has been thoroughly disproved in Academic circles and theorists
>Struck out

Are you literally insane or some shit? Do you believe in reptilians under New Mexico and the Denver Airport?

How on Earth is someone from Finland in my tribe? How is someone in France in my tribe? There are no pure genomes out there anymore. We're all a varying degree of mixed, you idiot.

This is what happens when someone gets "redpilled" after browsing /x/ for years.

Back to your pleasure zone, you weak-minded reactionary.

[Anonymous No.10958146]

>>10958140
oh, and also inb4 (((Academia)))

[Anonymous No.10958168]

>>10958126
If you're going into these levels, then don't you know that all world religions are merely Lucifefarian Serpent worship?
How are we in tribes if all the ones at the top regard us as entertainment? sicking us against each other in wars? withholding the pure truth of our origin from Sirius?

You're going to find out the real terrible truth one day, anon... and you'll wish you could go back to this state, where you believed a century-old conspiracy about one group of people, spanning the globe. If your faith in humans is so low, then how can you believe that they managed to execute such a pristine system of concealment?

You don't know the first fucking thing about people.

[Anonymous No.10958169]

>>10958126
>If you are white you are the lowest of the low
lol

[Anonymous No.10958170]

>>10958140
>that has been thoroughly disproved in Academic circles and theorists

Now you're just lying.

This is what MacDonald himself wrote the other day when some jew told the same lie.

>First, it’s not the case that “most scholars of evolutionary psychology reject Mr. MacDonald’s methods and conclusions.” It would be far more accurate to claim that my work is simply ignored, as I describe in my first reply to Cofnas.

http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2018/04/05/the-special-jewish-role-in-passage-of-the-1965-immigration-law-a-reply-to-abraham-miller/

You aren't going to be taken seriously if you are going to lie like this.

Are you finished embarrassing yourself now?

[Anonymous No.10958177]

>>10958170
>guy writes book
>reviewer says book is bad and ridden with mistakes about history
>guy who writes said book adamantly defends it

You're not that smart. Don't know the first thing about marketing, eh? Seems to have worked tho... you idiots eat this shit.

[Anonymous No.10958181]

>>10958168
There's no "conspiracy," it's readily apparent. If you are a white male under 25 and you aren't aware of the jewish problem at this point, you either aren't very intelligent or don't know how to use the internet.

[Anonymous No.10958182]

>>10958169
lmao true desu

[Anonymous No.10958185]

>>10958181
Look up the definition of Conspiracy, retard.

Do you have any sources, aside from a mental catalog of getting mad at /pol/ memes?

inb4 Martin Luther, who was, at that point, trying to get people to his religion.

[Anonymous No.10958186]

>>10957649
>Nemens is also an illustrator who runs a popular Tumblr featuring watercolor portraits of female congresswomen.

>a popular Tumblr featuring watercolor portraits of female congresswomen.

This is probably what ticks me off about libshit identity politics, the sheer aesthetic horror of it. 60s feminists had their Gramscian march through the institutions, alright. But when you march through the institutions, the institutions march through you too. Germaine Greer(long blacklisted as a transphobe and rape apologist) said women shouldn't aspire to be like unfree men, now you got got banal middle management power worshippers self-inserting as congresswomen, Hillary Clinton and YAS KWEEN CEO.


>On February 21, the New York Times published a notice calling on college students to describe and document any sexual encounter “that may not be viewed as sexual assault but which constitutes something murkier than a bad date.” The notice incldues a submission form where students can accuse individuals of having engaged in something the Times calls “gray-zone sex.” The Times asks its young tipsters to include names, email addresses, phone numbers and colleges, plus text message records and photographs documenting the encounters.

>We’ve seen it play out on a public stage, from the Aziz Ansari incident to The New Yorker’s “Cat Person” story. So-called “gray-zone sex” has prompted impassioned conversations about—and personal reflection on—what constitutes consent and how we signal our desire or apprehension in the moment. This debate is especially vibrant on college campuses, where for years students and administrators have grappled with the issue.

That's it, guess the MRAs had a point after all.

[Anonymous No.10958188]

>>10958177
The Culture of Critique came out around 20 years ago. That response is related to a paper by a jew that came out 2 or 3 weeks ago. MacDonald has complained for years that his work was never reviewed and was ignored.

You are lying and trying to deceive people here. Why is that? Because you're jewish?

[Anonymous No.10958192]

>>10958185
Jews, being the inbred semites they are, conspire. But that's not the definition you're using here.

[Anonymous No.10958198]

>>10958106
>implying the past isn't being systematically erased
>implying there is a future

[Anonymous No.10958206]

>>10958188
>>10958192
>>10958198

Can you please take your fucking meds, you sperged-out samefag?

[Anonymous No.10958241]

>>10958206
Make aliya.

[Anonymous No.10958243]

>>10958186
imagine unironically upholding members of fucking congress as positive role models of some sort

[Anonymous No.10958283]

>>10957487
Borges was a PoC author, his writings must be interpreted in the light of postcolonialism and queer theory

[Anonymous No.10958284]

>>10958206
>anon asks if he is jewish
>ignores the question
Pottery.
Water off the raincoat etc etc

[Anonymous No.10958287]

>>10958284
I'm not a jew at all.
Irish in fact. The Anglican church is responsible for far more deaths than Jewish meddling, anon.

[Anonymous No.10958293]

>>10958284
When you see this type of hostility and venom pouring out against people speaking openly about the jewish problem, it's pretty obvious, ain't it?

[Anonymous No.10958303]

>>10957396
she a qt

[Anonymous No.10958308]

>>10958287
You are the lowest of the whites. Says it all how quick you are to come to the defense of the people who hate you and are ruining your country, like Shatter.

http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2013/03/02/the-misplaced-minister-ireland-and-israels-alan-shatter/

Why don't you educate yourself before you speak up next time?

[Anonymous No.10958309]

>>10957536

> identity politics and social justice theory have become another means for capital to consolidate its control.

This is the heart of the matter. I'd say that it's more a diversionary tactic rather than a means to consolidate control, but that may just be splitting hairs. Point being: SJWs and /pol/tards are the exact same thing from the capitalist's perspective, and they love both. Anything that keeps people's attention focused on cultural divisions is useful to them, as it helps obscure the real enemy. Think about this: there have been countless articles published in the mainstream media in the past year about various WN movements and leaders, and approximately zero about corresponding (but probably more popular) movements on the left like the DSA. Why do you think that is?

[Anonymous No.10958312]

>>10958293
>start of an ethnic witchhunt online
>I don't like Genocide, as I feel humanity is one, so I call out sensational bullshit propaganda
>must be a shill

You people are just as brain-washed as the MSNBC Soros drones desu.

[Anonymous No.10958321]

>>10958308
>posts another partisan publication, that can, and will, muddle facts and statistics to gain influence... hmmm, not like every other organization since Sumeria has done this

Good lord...

[Anonymous No.10958332]

>>10958321
Why don't you read it and learn something instead of reacting like a child and dismissing a site you don't know the first thing about out of hand? You're a fucking fool if you don't realize that the people telling you about the jewish problem once held the same beliefs you do today. We pity you.

[Anonymous No.10958348]

>>10958332
I know more about it than your little Peterson-tier blog bullshit, m8.

You lot aren't in any place to pity anyone. Again, you CANNOT prove that THE WORLD would be BETTER if another group was AT THE GENESIS OF MODERN RELIGION.

My god.

[Anonymous No.10958362]

>>10958348
The jews aren't the "genesis" of anything but destruction. Everything about the Bible and many of their own religious practices were taken from other cultures they parasitized.

[Anonymous No.10958378]

>>10958362
What? Hermeticism? Zoroastrianism? Yeah, yeah, all that stuff and neoplatonism as well.
Well, if they indeed did do that, took all those ideas and synthesized a monolithic enterprise, well shit, that lead us to today now, huh? Seems like we did relatively good, compared to Pagan tribes like The Dogon, who, in their writings, showcase a lot of the ideas present in your Pagan inclinations.

You're getting out of your element here, man.

[Anonymous No.10958398]

>>10958378
Nah, kid. You're some teenager overdosing on information you can neither synthesize nor understand. To repeat myself, that information will become clearer once you actually, for real, start informing yourself about the jewish problem. They have been involved with much of the machinations of the past, just as they are at the heart of the current downfall of the west. These people hate you. Now shut the fuck up and start learning why.

[Anonymous No.10958427]

>>10958398
Yes, yes... I've read the Talmud, I know how the Goyim are talked about in Jewish circles.

To deny that any other group of people don't share this sentiment, that their kind is truly the most important, like what you've been implying that every human does (tribes, as you say... lol) would be silly. Again, you cannot prove that things would be any better or worse if any other group was in charge.

So, you care about Palestinians all of a sudden? Because you know some people who lost jobs to Jewish Nepotism, or Affirmative Action?

You idiots are ruining any progress you may make, by throwing around idiotic thinkers, and proving yourselves to be entirely ignorant of human nature.
You literally are brainwashed. Notice how you're defining like a leftist. You do know that cult, MK Ultra brainwashing tactics are in the public domain? You do know that the first step for a low-tier washing is to instill a feeling of rage and victimization.

With the immensity of history, you can just about string any number of events together into a cohesive narrative for a political party.

You're just as much as a bootlicker as the leftists you deride, you fucking pawn.

[Anonymous No.10958431]

>>10958398
Go away, Tom. One day you realize you lost it all over fucking corporate tactics. lmao

[Anonymous No.10958447]

>>10958427
Yeah, never mind, you're way too much of a sperg to into this stuff. You aren't as wise as you think you are either, chap, but good luck.

[Anonymous No.10958455]

>>10958447
>you're way too much of a sperg to into this stuff

Literally what? So I know more than you? I see it with all the knowledge I have of human beings? I know that power cannot go up against power? I know that power corrupts?

What do you even want?

You really do seem like a resentful, toxic human being, anon. I hope you get help.

I think it's you who needs to educate yourself on people in general, and know that no race of one is morally superior to the other.

[Anonymous No.10958471]

>>10957396
>university pedigree
>failed artist (a bit more literal this time)
>played the literary game to the T
whats new? She's not Plimbeton. The best she can do for us is take down the interview paywall.

[Anonymous No.10958520]

Also please take time to notice how White Savior (Secret Nazi) Anon from /pol/ only took the time to focus on one thing in all my posts, while discarding the rest. And the things he focused on were mostly trivial, compared to the other ideas being put forth.

Fucking bullshit pious motherfucker... Sounds like something a "leftist" would do.

[Anonymous No.10958553]

>>10957429
This. It's honestly insane how the most privileged people in America is convinced there's a conspiracy about them.

[Anonymous No.10958559]

>>10958520
This your first day off the r*eddit reservation? It's normal for newbs like yourself to get embarrassed on here; you're stepping out of a carefully censured realm where the most important topic of today (the jewish problem) isn't allowed to be discussed honestly, and into one of the few where it's (mostly) allowed.

Naturally you find yourself behind the curve and get intellectually smoked, but I recommend you swallow your pride and use it as a stepping stone to become more informed about jews and the way in which they're destroying western societies through ideology, new age slave morality, and mass immigration.

Sperging out like you did isn't the way to go.

[Anonymous No.10958562]

>>10957516
You're retarded.
t. Argentinian
We're white REEEEEEEE

[Anonymous No.10958566]

>>10958283
I know you're baiting and I don't even care about Borges but this post infuriates me.

[Anonymous No.10958567]

>>10958559
>reddit posting
>get intellectually smoked

You've been baiting me this whole time, huh?

Goddammit...

Also, maybe... maybe mass immigration is the result of corporate interests being allowed weight in politics?

[Anonymous No.10958569]

>>10957478
Baldwin is "intersectional virtue signaling: the author"

[Anonymous No.10958572]

>>10958553
White people built America and was a 90% white nation until recently. Now there are millions of brown people like yourself telling us we have "privilege" and deserve to be overrun by the third world. Transformations like that in such a short time come about because powerful people (jews) cause them to come about. It's not that complicated, you're just not very bright.

[Anonymous No.10958578]

Reading this thread is depressing. Why are right wingers so retarded, bros?

[Anonymous No.10958586]

>>10958569
Goddammit, I'm not letting you fucks deride Baldwin like this. Read his fucking essays! You'd agree with some of points, fuckface.

[Anonymous No.10958588]

>>10958572
You're wrong but I'm not even to waste my time explaining you why. In 50 years whites will be a minority and "your" country will be of all of us, you included. Don't be afraid though. We will be fair with you unlike you were with us.

[Anonymous No.10958590]

>>10958572
>10958572
That's the direct result of globalization under capitalism, friend. And no, I'm not a socialist. Yes, capital has achieved many great things, but, there comes a price to all human ideas.

[Anonymous No.10958600]

>>10958572
>White America's need for oil is so high, that they need to elect neoconservatives to put on that 9/11 shadowplay, connected to Haliburton/Saudi/Israeli officials as well
>Iraq war happens
>peak of Middle Eastern conflict since 1947
>roots going back centuries
>all hell breaks loose
>middle east becomes ravaged, hotbed now for government corruption brought on by postwar confusion
>People flee
>mass of people go across eastern europe and into mainland Europe
>no one can stop them, since that nation responsible would face international backlash due to international law

What the fuck do you fucking assholes want?

YOU'VE BEEN GIVEN EVERYTHING. OF COURSE THE 50S CANNOT LAST FOREVER. THERE'S A PRICE FOR YOUR LIFESTYLES.

[Anonymous No.10958606]

>>10958600
This reminds me of the South Park episode about Bin Laden.

"The world hates America, because you don't realize the rest of the world hates you."

[Anonymous No.10958614]

>>10958588
No, you have to go back. This is not your country and you were let in by traitors doing the bidding of jews, but that miasma is wearing off.

>>10958590
"Capitalism" is a system under the control of people; it does not have a mind of its own, it behaves how people in control of policies tell it to behave.

[Anonymous No.10958620]

>>10958614
>"Capitalism" is a system under the control of people; it does not have a mind of its own, it behaves how people in control of policies tell it to behave.

That's socialism, honey...

You're a literal troglodyte with a sub-90 IQ. I bet you look like a la 56% creatura in real life.

[Anonymous No.10958645]

>>10958620
You're so stupid I feel sorry for you.

[Anonymous No.10958656]

>>10957429
This. Honestly minorities and women are amazing and I don't see what's so bad about them getting the spotlight for one time in history.

[Anonymous No.10958666]

>>10958645
You literally just described socialism.

The effects of the Federal Reserve are vastly misdocumented. In fact, without it, we wouldn't be in the technological age we are in today; because of the vague and arbitrarily amount of worth they give to money, plus the ability to print an indefinite amount, gave rise to the boom of advancements in medicine, science, space exploration, communications... all after the Two World War influxes of cash, funded by loopholes within the Federal Reserve Act.

you're the fucking idiot here, honestly.

[Anonymous No.10958670]

>>10958666
No, you are beyond retarded. Please stop posting on /lit/.

[Anonymous No.10958672]

>>10958670
go read an actual book

[Anonymous No.10958684]

>>10958666
the economy isnt going to expand if you cant expand the money supply with it you fuckhead, any time it start to grow it would hit deflation and recede

[Anonymous No.10958686]

>>10958684
But... the economy did expand.

>any time it start to grow it would hit deflation and recede

Oh wow! Really? Natural patterns occur? Wow!
You seem really smart, anon!

[Anonymous No.10958691]

>>10958686
yeah the economy expanded because the money supply is controlled by a central bank that can create more money when needed, durrr

[Anonymous No.10958703]

>>10958691
>yeah the economy expanded because the money supply is controlled by a central bank that can create more money when needed

Yeah, that's what happened with the Federal Reserve Act.
Who are you even arguing against now? You just agreed with what that guy was saying.
>muh reading comprehension

I legitimately think you're a paranoid schizophrenic

[Anonymous No.10958712]

>>10957536
>when in fact no individual or group is steering the way
Come on, man. There are some people clearly invested in fucking the west as we know it. I used to believe /pol/ was full of bullshit too until Soros started funding the left in my country. Things have changed a lot very fast.

[Anonymous No.10958766]

>>10957396
What are some of the best top-Tier journals to submit to that aren’t overly political?

I have read some good stories within the last 3 years in The Virginia Quarterly, One Story, Kenyon Review, and Zoetrope: All Story. The New Yorker and The Paris Review leave a bad taste in my mouth these days (sad because I loved Paris Review back issues from the good old days).

Anyone know any other good ones?

[Anonymous No.10958770]

>>10958766
A Public Space is by Brigid Hughes who Plimpton mentored to run Paris Review after him, but she was only charge of PR for like a year before it was stolen from her, so she found A Public Space, also White Review is p gud, also some fags be readin N+1 or whatever but to be honest i never even flipped through one, might be shit

[Anonymous No.10959391]

>>10957995
>white anglo saxon protestants were the elite in the whole west

[Anonymous No.10959614]

>>10957396
I don't visit this board very often even though my main interest is literature. That is because most people here appear to be in their teens and with no awareness of Literature or literary culture outside the memes. TLS just released a list of the "new elizabethans" and I have not seen a single discussion point made about it. I dislike contemporary fiction as much as the next guy but when one of the foremost literary magazines in the world puts out a list of the supposedly best contemporary british and irish writers and no one knows enough/cares enough to even talk about it it's rather damning for the state of the board.

p.s. as I said I don't come here often so it's not impossible i've missed a thread on it but the fact that a thread on it coudn't sustain itself for any reasonable duration on this slow board would be similarly telling.

[Anonymous No.10959622]

>>10958004
I applaud you whole heartily for subscribing and supporting literary magazines but how/why do you not have london review of books and new york review of books. They might be mainstream but they still produce way better content than any of the magazines you've mentioned.

[Anonymous No.10959663]

>>10959614
no one actually comes here that often, no one is part of /lit/, /lit/ is just some made up internet society you can use in order to get your daily feel of superiority, that's characteristic for every internet forum or site, there is always that one guy who observes it from the outside and declares that it's shit, that one guy is usually everyone who visits it

your post is not in any way, original, insightful or contributes to the quality of the board, in fact, posts like yours are a daily routine here and on the internet in general,

[Anonymous No.10959673]

>>10959614
>you dont read literary magazines that spoonfeed you what to read
>you must be plebs

How about looking in the mirror there champ.

[Anonymous No.10959676]

>>10958712
>I used to believe /pol/ was full of bullshit too until Soros started funding the left in my country.
imagine thinking like this
fucking retard

[Anonymous No.10959679]

>>10959663
>your post is not in any way, original, insightful or contributes to the quality of the board, in fact, posts like yours are a daily routine here and on the internet in general

please identify where my post claims any of these things, this is such a meaningless statement to make that I can repeat it word for word in response to yours and it is equally valid (or more accurately invalid).

I'm sorry if my post is not original enough for you but when literary lists/events happen and there is no/little awareness of them on what a contemporary focused literature forum then I wonder what the purpose of this board is at all. I'm glad you enjoy your daily feel of supriority. I don't come here to feel superior to to hopefully find discussions on the latest literary developments (to give an example I gladly contributed to at least one thread (have there been any more?) on the international man booker longlist for this year), i'm sorry that that is clearly too much to ask from you.

[Anonymous No.10959687]

>>10959673
are you being facetious? the point is the discussion of their interpretation/misinterpretation of the canon and its problems. I imagine anyone who follows contemporary British/Irish literature is familiar with most of the writers mentioned anyway.

[Anonymous No.10959703]

>>10959679
>I'm glad you enjoy your daily feel of supriority.

nice spin you brain dead idiot, and thanks for not understanding my post at all,

>I don't come here to feel superior to to hopefully find discussions on the latest literary developments

so what is your first post about?

>That is because most people here appear to be in their teens and with no awareness of Literature or literary culture

oh look at those kids not knowing anything about literature while I read a fucking magazine to get insight

[Anonymous No.10959724]

>>10959703
>nice spin you brain dead idiot, and thanks for not understanding my post at all,
pot calling the kettle black

>so what is your first post about?
>That is because most people here appear to be in their teens and with no awareness of Literature or literary culture
If we are so regressive that reading about literature is a too great demand to place among the demographics of this place then sure by definition one is superior. It is if you walked into a film club and then wondered why people do not take you seriously when you announce you have not seen a flm before.

I don't know why you're getting so angry at a reference to a mainstream literary magazine, it's a fun discussion topic.

[Anonymous No.10959741]

>>10959724
>reading about literature

why would anyone do that

[Anonymous No.10959743]

>>10957466
whoa...

[Anonymous No.10959758]

>>10957396
>reading literary journals
keep larping like it's the 50's retards

[Anonymous No.10959762]

>>10957648
These old ideologies (memes) on the left and right no longer serve us. But they continue to try to survive. The only way they can do that is by convincing youth to buy into them.

[Anonymous No.10959832]

>>10958770
There was a big to-do about her a little while back, Hughes was Editor for a hot minute. I think that's why all of these press releases for the new one are trying to avoid saying "first woman."

>>10959614
>TLS
>"New Elizabethans"
I'll have to check that out. I used to read it all the time but since leaving university, I haven't plumped for a subscription. I usually just read NYRB and LRB, as my library subscribes to them.

[Anonymous No.10959892]

>>10959676
Not him but why is that thinking completely retarded? I know “Soros” has become something of a punchline thanks to the ridicule of Alex Jones and such, but the fact remains that Soros (1) is a real person and (2) known to donate heavily to specific causes. I’m not down the rabbit hole enough to know the amounts or these causes, but it seems silly to me to believe that there aren’t individuals out there with huge amounts of money that are trying to influence society

[Anonymous No.10959977]

>>10957396
why do we care? the paris review isnt going to publish any of our shit and they put the only good part of the magazine, the interviews, behind a pay wall

[Anonymous No.10960012]

>>10957396
Who is that guy?

[Anonymous No.10960152]

>>10957536
>>10958309
Funny how all you white dudebros turned against capitalism the moment women queers and people of color started benefiting from it

[Anonymous No.10960177]

>>10960152
>quotes two posts
>all you white dudebros

What did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.10960208]

>>10959892
literal strawman

[Anonymous No.10960250]

>>10960177
It's a widespread trend, though in this thread, in this website and beyond.

[Anonymous No.10960269]

>>10960250
Bullshit

[Anonymous No.10960315]

>>10960269
A considerable percentage, if not the vast majority, of White male middle class 'leftists' are obviously more motivated by resentment at PoC/Women succeeding than by genuine anti capitalism

[Anonymous No.10960377]

>>10960208
I find that people who use the whole “strawman” argument are incapable of participating in any sort of intellectual discussion. It is essentially the equivalent of “nuh-uh.”

[Anonymous No.10960404]

>>10960177
>What did he mean by this?

Is anybody else sick of this fucking meme?

[Anonymous No.10960417]

>>10960152
>>10960250
>queers
bad b8

[Anonymous No.10960425]

>>10960404
>Is anybody else sick of this fucking meme?

What was he trying to convey?

[Anonymous No.10960442]

>>10960315
Most "leftists" are fueled by resentment. You can make the same argument against social justice leftists too, that they are fueled by resentment against the "success" of white males. I know you're baiting but only the most deluded of neoliberal apologists would see capitalism as beneficial to women or people of color because the system itself benefits from a few key minority figureheads. I'm the guy who made the longer post and I don't even identify as a leftist, unlike the guy who responded to me I don't see any hope in resurrecting the leftist project through some pseud organization like the DSA. Leftism has been a stale meme since 1968 kiddo.

[Anonymous No.10960443]

>>10960315
>A considerable percentage

Such hot opinions.
Much fagtron.

[Anonymous No.10960453]

>>10960442
neoliberal capitalism has raised more people out of poverty than any other system in history. Neoliberal capitalism got us gay rights and is making great progress on gender equality and equal pay, empowering communities and promoting third world enterpreneurship through microfinance. Compare this with the retrograde soviet empire

[Anonymous No.10960458]

>>10957396
because literally who
>>10957429
The legit issue is over-representation of groups for the sake of representing them, and not because of artistic value. Even with some white male concessions there has been a larger amount of lackluster minority works winning shit.
t. minority

[Anonymous No.10960477]

>>10957516
Most people like that are Euros. The current "South American" pope is 100% Italian blood or so.

[Anonymous No.10960480]

Lol, these are the gatekeepers that lit loves so much

[Anonymous No.10960481]

>>10957704
>every conflict in this world is caused by minorities

What did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.10960489]

>>10960425
Better...

[Anonymous No.10960496]

>>10957723
Women have no consideration for men. They would have no nations and lack honor (just like the modern soyboy).

[Anonymous No.10960501]

Like most threads on /lit/ this thread is about 10% good analysis (which goes over almost everybody's head) and 90% shit.

[Anonymous No.10960515]

>>10958600
Only decent post itt

[Anonymous No.10960517]

>>10960453
>microfinance
Are you in marketing? You write like it.

[Anonymous No.10960519]

>>10957723
>The only way to save the West is to burn it.
Stupid, accelerationism is a horrible idea, it will just cement the current order fully without anything to fall back upon. The West is already burned, entire cultures are disappearing. Many lament the vanishing of Indios, but who will lament the disappearance of culture built up over hundreds if not thousands of years. The accents of certain linguistic minorities for example in small European regions. Their unique heritage. Whiteness itself is a product of identityless and rootless people (hence its importance in America).

[Anonymous No.10960527]

>>10957905
Even if Jews have the highest IQ they are such a minority that it shouldn't be possible they take over major industries to become so overrepresented. For every smart Jew there's a dozen smart "white" people. If you'd calculate the numbers, it's obvious.

[Anonymous No.10960534]

>>10959892
I'm sorry anon, but is the argument that it makes sense because he's a rich dude who spends money to further his interests?
What a grand conspiracy! Surely this scheming master is the hand that rocks the cradle.
Protip: Google 'lobbyist' it will blow your fucking mind

[Anonymous No.10960553]

>>10960377
Look up the definition of it and see how it fits.

[Anonymous No.10960568]

>>10960453
>Compare this with the system that produced the fastest industrialization in history and turned timelocked agrarian nowheres like China and Russia into global super powers within decades
>Compare it with a system that demands a permanent wartime economy and the largest military the Earth has ever seen in order to enforce access to cheap materials and labor for it's business interests in order to function
Suburbanite

[Anonymous No.10960579]

>>10960515
nah, it's peak brainfucked lefty; if everything is our/my/my people's fault then it also means that we can put humpty dumpty back together again. it dismisses the agency of brown people while privileging the agency of whites, saying that it's only the efforts of wipepo that can result in a satisfactory outcome. it's white man's burden stuck on repeat. the main reason that you prefer this narrative is because the alternative scares you

[Anonymous No.10960586]

>>10960579
spooky

[Anonymous No.10960610]

>>10960553
t. brainlet

[Anonymous No.10960619]

>>10960481
Minorities ruin everything.
The White Man helps us beyond measure and we still cry and murder and rape, as though we just brought in what we wanted to lose.

I fucking hate Mexicans and I hate blacks. The worst is when a few blacks or Mexicans make themselves useful and we use them as passes to get into places we never worked for like they did.

PLEASE NUKE US

[Anonymous No.10960641]

>>10960377
Anon didn't use the argument, just pointed out the other anon did.

[Anonymous No.10960669]

>>10960579
>Cause and effect is retarded moralizing if the conclusion makes me feel bad!!!
Nobody said shit about putting Humpty Dumpty back together. Like senpai, if you wanted terrorism just stop funding and engaging in it. The beehive was all the way across the field and we chose to run around and kick it for almost a century. It's not 'self-loathing' to stop and think, huh maybe I should stop doing this.
I know the idea of analysis as something other than moral judgement is alien to you, but people who want to engage with problems should face the world as it is and understand why things happen. Not boil everything down to some goodies v baddies narrative worthy of a Saturday morning cartoon.
There aren't any shining unambiguous heroes in real life

[Anonymous No.10961346]

>>10960579
imagine being so brainwashed by partisan shit, you actual ignore factual reality...

get help, narcissist

[Anonymous No.10961356]

>>10961346
for the love of God, learn to sage

[Anonymous No.10961420]

>>10957536
Jesus fucking christ

[Anonymous No.10961449]

>>10960534
>further his interests
What the fuck has anyone to win with filling South America with Haitians other than destabilizing the countries?

[Anonymous No.10961458]

>>10961420
what about him

[Anonymous No.10961462]

>>10961449
I never said Soros or the other lobbyists had good intentions, but just because they have an agenda, whatever that is, doesn't make it a conspiracy.
Soros is just a rich guy who's investing to make the world more diverse because that's what he cares about.
You may not like it and maybe it's not good but it's not a conspiracy. Enough with that shit, you fucking retard

[Anonymous No.10961469]

>>10961458
he's a nice guy but anon sounds like a twat

[Anonymous No.10961475]

>>10961462
If the press is all bought and paid for and antifa is bought and paid for and academia is bought and paid for...
How about oligarchy if conspiracy is too strong a word?

[Anonymous No.10961479]

>>10961449
Possibly for cheaper real estate development in Haiti in this specific case . As many American plutocrats have been eyeing the country for resort development, and the Haitian government would rather be a tourist economy than have their existing industries strangled.
Generally speaking though,businesses (and through their lobbyists, governments) will favor immigration because it drives down the cost of labor.

[Anonymous No.10961483]

>>10961469
why

[Anonymous No.10961489]

>>10960501
This. Sadly /lit/ is 90% /pol/ by now. At this point I'm sure this board would improve significantly if the mods had the balls to ban all the fucking reactionaries.

[Anonymous No.10961491]

>>10961475
It's not a conspiracy, it's just the market doing it's thing in a world where money buys influence
>Antifa bought and paid for
Laughable desu

[Anonymous No.10961497]

The Paris Review had an article today about Cardi B. There is literally zero reason to read it, or pay attention to it, or care even in the slightest about it.

[Anonymous No.10961507]

>>10961483
just read his posts and see

[Anonymous No.10961509]

>>10961489
I'm not just talking about the reactionaries retard, congratulations you're in that 90% too. Fuck you and your right-left dichotomy.

[Anonymous No.10961511]

>>10961491
>laughable
You seriously think those junkie faggits could afford bus fare to Berkeley?

[Anonymous No.10961513]

>>10961497
Cardi B is currently a relevant figure in pop culture. I'm sorry she isn't white or erudite enough for you

[Anonymous No.10961516]

>>10961507
I'm him though which posts are you talking about, I made like 4 total in the thread. Genuinely curious as to why I'm a twat ;)

[Anonymous No.10961518]

>>10957536
You completely elucidated the notions I already held. Thank you

[Anonymous No.10961521]

to be fair, moderation has been improving lately
keep it up mods

[Anonymous No.10961523]

>>10961513
(you)

[Anonymous No.10961530]

>>10961511
You seriously think they get sekrit checks and marching orders in the mail.
And yeah, most antifa people I've met were city dwellers

[Anonymous No.10961532]

>>10961475
>hurr durr Soros is bad for not wanting fascists running rampage
There are a lot of dumb kids in antifa but let's not pretend they are some kind of thread to civilization. They are harmless if you aren't a fascist.
Honestly you're just pathetic. If you're a loser it's not because someone is trying to destroy the west. The sooner you realize that the better.

[Anonymous No.10961536]

>>10958712
Dude, you still aren't thinking about it correctly. It isn't that there aren't these deviant agents; it's that these deviant agents don't actually have control. They are integrated into the system. Humanity has abstracted its way into a maze, even the brightest among us.

[Anonymous No.10961540]

>>10961516
only you can tell, desu

[Anonymous No.10961542]

>>10961536
>Humanity has abstracted its way into a maze, even the brightest among us.

I really cant understand why people cant see this... I feel like all the societal woes now are a direct result of a mass awakening to our darkness via the internet.

Tech brings new problems all the time.

[Anonymous No.10961543]

>>10961523
Fucking end me.

[Anonymous No.10961544]

>>10961462
What difference does it make whether or not it fits your or anyone else’s definition of “conspiracy”?

And frankly I don’t know how this debate ended up here as this whole reply-debate within this thread was started because someone was saying there is no influencer/someone at the driver’s seat and now it seems we have established that there are in fact people like that and that Soros is one.

[Anonymous No.10961550]

>>10961540
Ok dude, feel free to get back to me with an actual critique any time

[Anonymous No.10961553]

>>10961544
>it seems we have established that there are in fact people like that and that Soros is one
lol you're deluded

[Anonymous No.10961555]

>>10961513
I know you're just looking for (You)s but
>pop culture
Absolutely not worth the slightest sideways glance.

[Anonymous No.10961566]

>>10961550
you sound like a twat

[Anonymous No.10961574]

>>10961553
The guy I was debating said:
>Soros is just a rich guy who's investing to make the world more diverse because that's what he cares about.
>You may not like it and maybe it's not good but it's not a conspiracy.
How am I wrong?

I suppose using Soros as an example for anything causes issues as poltards see his name and think “evil Jew” whereas lefties see his name and automatically think the argument is retarded due to Alex jones memes. When in reality he exists somewhere between those two extremes

[Anonymous No.10961578]

>>10961566
Ok. Have a (you).

[Anonymous No.10961584]

>>10961530
>>10961532
Soros’ disinformation minions detected.
How many shekels did he have to give you to sell your souls.

[Anonymous No.10961588]

>>10961574
You're wrong because you act like something was established when it wasn't.

[Anonymous No.10961596]

reminder that Trump was friends with pedo jeffrey eipstein as well

[Anonymous No.10961609]

>>10961544
There is no influencer on that grand a scale. Soros is out here making Soros money and pursuing his interests. Much like the Gates or the Kochs or any other of thousands of corporate moguls.
The idea that they're all ideologues funding special interests for ideological gain is silly. We're that the case they would all have long since been run over by some other oligarch who was only about his money. They're only out for their money, if that fucks with you then too bad, that's capitalism baby

[Anonymous No.10961699]

>>10958712
Soros gave some money to a far left party in my country (Chile) too and I don't see what's the big deal about that. Maybe the immigration has gone a bit out of hand but the "left" has been pushing mostly for causes that are hardly evil like free college for everyone, more rights for minorities and are bringing to the mainstream concepts like gender theory that are very needed in such a backward society like this. I know this things can't get out of control like in Sweden but we aren't even close to that and it would be silly to be a backward society on purpose just for fear that we can become like that one day. Also Mujica seems to like Soros and he's an example of a great politician to the rest of South America so maybe we should trust in his judgment.

[Anonymous No.10962062]

Soros plays the villain and NGO front man for the Rothschild family, most people who know about the JQ know this. When jews want to downplay the jewish role in things they'll say "muh jews control the world," but there is a clique of jews who really do seem to try to and stick their hand in everything. This is the jewish mentality anyway, their torah tells them they are destined to rule the world. Tell that to a people for thousands of years and they'll start to believe it.

[Anonymous No.10962285]

>>10961699
>bringing to the mainstream concepts like gender theory that are very needed in such a backward society like this
YAAAS QUEEN SLAY! what kind of bigot would dare defame such a moving, vibrant and inclusive display of diversity and progress! baka I bet those stupid privileged white hick /pol/acks haven't even read Foucault.

[Anonymous No.10962348]

>>10958588
Why do you think it will be better? Why are you so excited for a future where we look like Brazil? What makes you possibly think anybody will be fair?

[Anonymous No.10963274]

>>10961699
>I don't see what's the big deal
There isn't. Soros is unironically a good guy and even if he weren't he doesn't have the power to have any real influence in the world anyway. /pol/ just hate him because they like to have a common enemy they can blame for all their failures.

[Anonymous No.10963293]

>>10963274
Only the retardedest of retards would try to pass this off as a legitimate opinion. Soros is a really bad jew, everyone knows this, but he's merely a frontman for the worst elements of jewery generally.

[Jeff Mangum Died For Your Sins !rAl8Mz2mp2 No.10963305]

>>10957429
>proceed to try to find culture from different voices
It really just boils down to two different conceptions of what literature should be. If you think that propagating the subjective voices of historically-marginalized identity groups is a good criterion for determining what should be published, then the people who think of literature as primarily aesthetic are going to get pissed. The two views are irreconcilable.

>>"FUCK, SHIT, IT'S WHITE GENOCIDE BECAUSE MY SHITTY POEM ABOUT HOW I'M A SAD MALE IN A TECHNOLOGICAL SOCIETY WAS REJECTED"
What triggers those guys isn't that they're not getting published, it's that Rupi Kaur is the best-selling poet of 2017, while aesthetically superior works by white male writers are ignored by the literary establishment.

[Anonymous No.10963313]

>>10958578
The Left shit the bed. You guys created the vacuum for /pol/ to exist

[Anonymous No.10963577]

>>10958766
I used to like Oxford American back when Marc Smirnoff ran it, but he was run off from there (the magazine he founded!) years ago and I haven't followed it since.

[Anonymous No.10964173]

>>10962285
What? I've watched that show and that wasn't a bondage gag.

[Anonymous No.10965886]

>>10963313
Even if what you wrote made sense, it would still be blaming the victim.