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>> No.10937746

Money rules over fucking everything, there is no reason to create art.

>> No.10937840

>>10937746
This is how Bast feels at the end, but I don't think that's the argument of the book.

>> No.10937850

>>10937840
Yeah, I feel like this has been a big misunderstanding of Gaddis.
I’m not sure he’s ever really argued that money has destroyed art, I think he is more just exploring being an artist within capitalism.

He’s never struck me as being particularly anti-capitalist. Just more of being against letting capitalism define you as a person.

>> No.10938000

>>10937746
so was Gaddis a big Walter Benjamin fan?

>> No.10938007

>>10937850
>>10937840
good takes

>> No.10938016

>>10938007
go baq to twitter and stay there faggot nigger

>> No.10938018

>>10938000
Indeed. In fact, Benjamin is namedropped left and right in Agape ; him and Flaubert are all over that book.

>> No.10938024

So, if one were to read this before The Recognitions would that be considered sacrilegious from a Gaddis connoisseur point of view?

>> No.10938028

>>10938024
it doesn't matter much

>> No.10938037

>>10938018
That's actually awesome. I'll have to finally get around to reading some Gaddis. I've been putting it off for far too long.

>> No.10938100

>>10937850
I think he's against laissez-faire capitalism and the rampant commercialism that he saw post WWII and which only got worse as he got older.

>> No.10938983

I have read Agape Agape, my first Gaddis book. Didn't really rate it, it's very heavy on references to other things and from what I have read of the critical materials about the book they seem to indicate that it's 'the culmination' of ideas explored in his other works.

I'm not likely to read more Gaddis any time soon but are there any of his works you guys would recommend if I didn't mesh with Agape Agape?

>> No.10939027

>>10938983
Agape is just a Bernhard-ian rant and has very little to do with the rest of his work. Corrections and JR are his best and Carpenter is shorter, if that’s what you need to get going again.

>> No.10939148

>>10939027
Don't get me wrong I am very intrigued by the subject matter. My issue is with reference heavy literature, I'm not that well read and I find that looking up references and reading about them seriously disrupts the pacing of a book, for me at least.

>> No.10939165

>>10939027
>corrections
bruh..

>> No.10939243

>>10939165
Haha, yeeeaaa... Sorry about that. Recognitions ofc.