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[Anonymous No.10838050]

Why do people keep pretending that morality has any rational basis?

[Anonymous No.10838064]

>>10838050
cause they got big noses that got all fucked up in a free photoshop knockoff

[Anonymous No.10838071]

because as it just so happens to turn out, Jesus actually does real

[Anonymous No.10838092]

>>10838050
Because, I feel it so strongly; It must be true, it must, it must, it must! Also, soci3ty man--how could we have this complexlyrics organized society without them? Utilitarianism is the key to the Locke. It's so simple guys, the Truth has been in front of our faces the entire time

[Anonymous No.10838100]

>>10838092
Dammit I fucked this up. *complexly
Supposed to be this pic

[Anonymous No.10838105]

These must be the same people that think reason exists.

[Anonymous No.10838106]

>>10838071
Why do you keep pretending that divine command theory has any rational basis?

[Anonymous No.10838113]

>>10838050
I think it's because it makes us feel better to think that our various moralities are based in reason, rather than some harder to quantify bedrock of passion and instinct. If people's ethical decisions are purely rational, then we have an easier time negatively attributing fault and blame in others while rationally justifying our own actions completely post hoc. The illusion of free agency makes the world a neater place.

Jonathan Haight's book The Righteous Mind does an excellent job addressing this question. Definitely worth a read.

[Anonymous No.10838117]

>>10838050
Because saying "Murder is bad" to a child is easier than explaining to then that despite moral uncertainty people can engage in a social contract that certain counterproductive and inconvenient behaviors are generally agreed to be discouraged by a legal system that may or may not even be run by the people at all.

[Anonymous No.10838124]

>>10838100
fuck wrong image

[Anonymous No.10838125]

>>10838117
It isn't. The Powers that B are fully aware of Machiavelli and Nietzsche

[Anonymous No.10838130]

ITT: because pragmatic reasons!

Why do people keep pretending that valuing the pragmatic has any rational basis?

[Anonymous No.10838277]

Because διάνοια (ratio, reason) is merely a potentia with the prupose of being a basis for Knowledge attained with the dialectical νούς (translatable as intellect, i guess.)

Plato already solved all this and german idealism made it into a Science. Read Plato.

[Anonymous No.10838363]

>a system which encourages health and well being while establishing the guide lines for a co-operative society that reaches their goals is irrational

Okay OP. Whatever you say.

[Anonymous No.10838389]

>>10838050
because it's reasonable to assume

[Anonymous No.10838633]

>>10838389
it's never reasonable to assume, anon

shame on you

[Anonymous No.10838649]

>>10838130
explanation doesn't imply agreement

also how does valuing pragmatism not have a rational basis? on what else would it be based?

[Anonymous No.10838675]

There is absolutely no scenario where you should lie. Ever.

[i'll take some bait yea No.10838688]

>>10838050

Because if it weren't for morality leading to the rise of civilized society, you wouldn't have had the privilege of sitting in comfort, in a house bought by your parents, making this edgy and immature post.

[Anonymous No.10838692]

>>10838675
And how about lies of omission? How about self-preservation induced lies? From where is this categorical dictum derived? Have you ever fantasized fucking a family member? Do you think you'll be successful?