>I read Nietzsche but I hate racism

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Anonymous Sat Mar 3 20:40:42 2018 No.10790361 [Reply] [Original]

>I read Nietzsche but I hate racism

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 3 20:41:52 2018 No.10790366 File: 134 KB, 500x775, 1520067768842.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10790361 >I'm American >I'm white

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 3 20:47:25 2018 No.10790393 File: 5 KB, 250x242, 1476067075044s.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >I read Nietzsche but I don't want to shoot every antisemite in Europe.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 3 20:51:02 2018 No.10790408 >>10790361 RELINQUISH THE ESTATE RIGHTS, ELIZABETH

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 3 21:00:21 2018 No.10790444 >>10790361 >I read Homer but don't believe in honor >I read Augustine but I'm not Christian >I read Plato but I'm not gay >I read Aristotle but I'm not friendly this is how dumb you sound.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 3 21:01:38 2018 No.10790450 >>10790361 >I read DFW but I'm not retarded

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 3 21:05:57 2018 No.10790465 >>10790444 >>I read Plato but I'm not gay people don't really do this, right?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 3 21:07:41 2018 No.10790476 >>10790361 >all my favorite authors before 1900 are extremely racist >racism is for idiots really makes one ponder

Anonymous Sat Mar 3 21:12:15 2018 No.10790492

>>10790476

>valuing intelligence without compassion
>thinking that viewing the world wholly logically and maintaining a capitalistic perspective on life is for smart people because you dont understand the importance of using compassion with logic
>racism is for big brains

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 3 21:13:50 2018 No.10790498 >>10790492 this period of religious antiracism will be seen as incredibly bizarre by future societies. it makes literally no sense

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 3 21:15:34 2018 No.10790503 >>10790476 >all my favourite authors from before 1564 believe in geocentrism >geocentrism is for idiots truly activates the neurons

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 3 21:17:59 2018 No.10790514 >>10790503 except all 20th century science vindicates racism. there is literally no evidence that the races are the same anyway fuck having this conversation again nobody listens

Anonymous Sat Mar 3 21:21:26 2018 No.10790528

>>10790498

Thats only because societies have become more and more focused on logic as civilization advanced. This obviously isn't an entirely bad thing as it's brought the human experience many prospects however it has always been a terrible blight on our existence. The obsession with logic (which to me is the obsession with ego) has convinced societies that any narrative advocating for compassion or re connection with spirituality as a means to overcome the misery of our current state is infantile and uneducated. I think that's plainly not true. I think that people are absorbed in their egos and refusing to consider God and the validity of an argument suggesting compassion as a tool in one's global perspective rather than spiteful judgement. You can only argue that it "makes no sense" in the context of capitalist society because naturally the society based around ego makes compassion neigh-inhabitable. I think people are just ignorant.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 3 21:23:12 2018 No.10790532 >>10790514 That has nothing to do with what you originally said, retard.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 3 21:27:08 2018 No.10790540 >>10790532 I was pointing out why the geocentric example doesn't compare. both science and the entire history of everybody before the 1920s say the same thing but yeah whatever believe what you want

Anonymous Sat Mar 3 21:27:42 2018 No.10790541

>>10790514

The stupid thing about the way a lot of this site handles racial realism is that it isn't literally a reason to be racist. If you believe that it's true and give you a more nuanced perspective on reality then that's fine. That's not an excuse to be spiteful about the way people are. Racism is for idiots because there's no good argument for being hateful to other humans. I mean, I guess that detirmines of your philosophy of life but if you know the Truth and that truth being that man's prupose is to return to God then you would know that harboring hatred is no way to progress as a human being.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 3 21:29:00 2018 No.10790544 >>10790444 Straightcucks should devote themselves to gymnastics and knowledge not the pursuit of stupid women.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 3 21:32:14 2018 No.10790552 >>10790541 it means our entire society is deluded. I see that you don't care about logic that much but for anybody that does it's profoundly disturbing.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 3 21:36:45 2018 No.10790568 >>10790544 The knowledge of other men's anuses, right?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 3 21:47:32 2018 No.10790604 >>10790444 lol >I read Aristotle but I'm not friendly that's a good; we political animals bb

Anonymous Sat Mar 3 21:52:00 2018 No.10790613

>>10790552

I value you logic incredibly. I don't value so extreme a use of it that it drives people to hatred and other ego related states. Of course it's bad that a predominant part of our culture today involves denying logic. That doesn't mean that in response to this you have to be racist. You can just acknowledge the truth and not be dicks about things. Maybe see how you can help others to see things truthfully and without spite?

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 3 21:52:52 2018 No.10790616 >>10790366 You've made a big mistake.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 3 22:30:05 2018 No.10790723 >>10790393 /thread

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 3 22:51:59 2018 No.10790780 File: 8 KB, 224x224, images (29).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >I read Foucault but love racism

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 3 22:56:23 2018 No.10790796 >>10790613 Well said.

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 3 23:19:34 2018 No.10790883 File: 30 KB, 657x539, 1518650556650.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10790361 >I'm atheist, and I believe in karma

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 3 23:49:39 2018 No.10790982 File: 84 KB, 800x800, 1518949337245.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10790361 >I dont believe in God, but believe in the Devil

>>	Anonymous Sat Mar 3 23:55:33 2018 No.10791010 >>10790541 >God >>>/x/

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 00:00:19 2018 No.10791023 Misato was and is my first and only waifu

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 00:09:26 2018 No.10791049 >>10790361 >I blame Jews for socialism but I also regularly post images listing all the privately owned financial institutions, multinational corporations, and media conglomerates run by Jews

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 00:23:25 2018 No.10791093 File: 492 KB, 849x471, rer.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10790528 >>10790541 I like you

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 00:24:53 2018 No.10791100 >>10791049 The sole purpose of Communism is to establish a Jewish pseudo-fascist capititalist ethnostate

Anonymous Sun Mar 4 00:27:56 2018 No.10791116

>>10791100
dude the creation of israel was the genius move of the brits, once jews had a state it completely took the wind out of communism, look at the timeline, there are no more communist revolutions after 67 because the international communist movement switched to zionism

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 00:53:08 2018 No.10791193 >>10790541 maybe this is true when you define racism as "unwarranted hatred of other races" idiot discrimination does not have to be hateful

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 01:17:35 2018 No.10791272 >>10790361 In some ways nietzsche was actually less racist than his contemporaries. Particularly when he takes jabs at German nationalism.

Anonymous Sun Mar 4 01:34:09 2018 No.10791333

>>10790604
>“Man is by nature a social animal; an individual who is unsocial naturally and not accidentally is either beneath our notice or more than human. Society is something that precedes the individual. Anyone who either cannot lead the common life or is so self-sufficient as not to need to, and therefore does not partake of society, is either a beast or a god. ”
fool

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 03:04:35 2018 No.10791589 >>10791272 >hate Germans >wtf he’s egalitarian now

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 05:38:12 2018 No.10791930 >>10790361 >tfw I've been found out

Anonymous Sun Mar 4 05:52:43 2018 No.10791978
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Wtf U RAYCIS!?,?! NIQQA WHERE DA PROOF AT THO? #BLM

America was a mistake. I unironically hope you guys nuke yourself and take all those negroes and spics with you.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 08:11:01 2018 No.10792335 File: 1.64 MB, 900x6491, hell.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10790982 But anon, the devil is god...

Anonymous Sun Mar 4 08:11:34 2018 No.10792338

>>10791193

>Thinking that discrimination isn't a result of lacking compassion
>Trying this hard to justify being racism when clearly you know it's wrong otherwise you wouldn't attempt to make it excuses for it

I'm sure you've been quite indoctrinated by the pol hivemind anon but you'll only fall deeper and deeper into bitterness. The trick is to acknowledge differences and respond to them appropriately after communicating with people from different cultures and understanding several nuanced opinions. You sound like more of a "I know what's best because whitey said so" than a "I should talk to people/ read about things I don't totally understand before holding convictions" and here's a hint bud: reading a bunch of statistics online isn't how you get an understanding of someone. Neither is listening to bigoted opinions. Just admit you're a side and you care more about feeling right and embracing this spiritual wasteland called capitalist civilization than actually trying to understand other humans and filling yourself with compassion and love. I hope you decide otherwise though. I only mock you so you might consider how absurd your Philosophy is. But on the other hand I'm sure you think I'm bat shit so.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 08:12:50 2018 No.10792346 >>10792338 *You're a pseud

Anonymous Sun Mar 4 08:19:25 2018 No.10792363

>>10791978

>Implying mass incarceration isn't racially biased
>Implying that in the 1980s white people in America were recorded to have been using dope at immensely higher rates than black Americans yet black Americans went to prison for drug charges at a must higher percentage

Do you actually just look at statistics and not consider why they exist or do you just listen to the first thing pol tells you about them and think it's fact because it suits your agenda? Something called disequallibrium needs to happen before one learns. Meaning, when faced with new information you need to decide how you assimilate it with the old. The trick to actually thinking critically is not trying to mold all new information you get into the limited foundation for interpretation that comes with being racial prejudiced. The trick is not to say "blacks have ___ statistic they must so it because they're dumb" but actually look at the circumstances and patterns leading up to these situations and perpetuating them. It's anti intellectual to view statistics without researching after wards. Stop thinking you're smart because you can regurgitate information you barely read about.

Also inb4 someone drops another iq chart and talks about the relationship with high Iq and high income.

Stop thinking that the situation of blacks in America can be simply painted as "hurr it's they're fault cause they dumb". That'd be like if I said that whites shoot up schools just because they're selfish and entitled instead of looking up what caused the culture to cultivate that. Stop looking at information at surface level.

Anonymous Sun Mar 4 08:37:33 2018 No.10792416

>>10792363
And here we see the nigger trying to defend his ape-kins actions.
Have you ever looked at the culture of the negroid in America? No education, all about making money, ‘’hoes’’, guns, etc

It’s a toxic culture, plus to add to that why don’t we have a look at the schools in the south where the majority of blacks live?

>police
>fights everyday
>The kids have no interest in learning

If you’re black, stop defending them, they’re not worth it. You know damn well that if you go to a random black dude in detroit and start talking about books his immediate response will be something along the lines off ‘’fuck off wid da gay shit nigga’’

Anonymous Sun Mar 4 08:46:43 2018 No.10792445
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>>10792338
Really? What perspective and nuanced opinions will I hear if I ask some angry niggers why the countries they flee were turned into such shitholes by their black leadership?

It's easy to dismiss a large group of people whose opinions differ from yours as "Just a hivemind of bitter smellyness", but have you ever considered talking your differences out with them?

Anonymous Sun Mar 4 08:54:58 2018 No.10792465
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>>10792445
That was the wrong image, and I apologize. This is what I want you to see.

When /pol/ talks about the ethnic replacement ongoing in America and the UK, and the literal state-sponsored white genocide in Africa, they're telling the truth. You have no rational argument against this, and all you can do is lean back so you can be seen smirking down at it. You and your friends call any views right of the left "Inherently wrong" and "Ignorant", but if they were, would it not be easy for you to debunk them as easily as I might debunk a flat earth argument?

Anonymous Sun Mar 4 08:56:16 2018 No.10792472

>>10792416

Why did you disregard my entire argument? This is exactly what I'm talking about. You clearly don't read any black literature you don't talk to black people you probably haven't even read about how gangs even started in America and here you are making claims about the nature of black culture and the average black man.

I could spend a lot of time refuting your arguments but that really would be for naught if you only want to come to the conclusion you've already made. I can tell you that education is certainly emphasised in black communities because you will always hear people in the hood talk about how their mom told them to stay in school but they didn't listen. And they don't listen because it's easier to make money selling drugs. And why did black people develop such an affinity for pushing? Because a lot of the factories which had been hiring black people got shut down in the late 70s leaving many blacks unemployed. Quickly succeeding this was the crack academic which the US government both allowed and made Bank off of to fight communists. And following this was the war on drugs which mass incarcerated blacks despite whites having a higher percentage of drug use. And this is just one of the many contributors of external influence to the modern state of the black community. But you CHOOSE to ignore me because you are afraid of compassion. You are afraid of admitting to yourself that you don't have all the answers about people and that it actually doesn't feel good to harbor negative feelings for things especially when you don't understand that. And I don't blame you because our current socio political climate is pushing out people like you left and right. People who refuse to think critically and only listen to their echo chamber hivemind whist mocking the left for doing the same exact thing. Read some essays about the black experience on different decades in America. Read some history about the actual relationship the American government has had with black people here. I suppose the terrorist attacks on black Wall Street were also blacks fault too right? It's absurd. It's absurd that you don't read about the things you hold conviction in yet talk down to people as if you do. Insh'Allah you will understand compassion and empathize with where I'm coming from and see exactly why what your saying it's completely ridiculous. I really really hope you don't continue thinking that your perspective on race is in anyway a result of critical thinking.

Anonymous Sun Mar 4 09:02:20 2018 No.10792492

>>10792445

What do you think I'm doing right now? I love to talk about this stuff with people so I can actually hear where they're coming from and share opinions. I'm obviously black yeah? What does a black man gain from arguing with kids on 4chan other than knowledge? I'm engaging you guys for a reason. That being said. I can't pretend that I know well the history of African countries and their black leadership. However I do have a book that I've been reading to read called "how Africa became undervdevloped" which talks about the external influences and internal conflicts that brought Africa to the way it is today. So like I said, yes there very much is nuance to why a situation is fucked up and it's never as simply as "__ is stupid" if you don't think the current state of africa has nothing to do with external influence then I think you're just limiting your perspective. Now if you have information you'd like to share wirh me on the subject I'm all ears. I love to learn and part of my livelihood is sharing knowledge and making sure people are thinking critically.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 09:02:59 2018 No.10792495 >Insh'Allah My God, you’re fucking retarded. Blow yourself up, Ahmed.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 09:04:09 2018 No.10792501 Even the people who say racism is good eventually whine about white genocide so everything evens out in the edge olympics

Anonymous Sun Mar 4 09:04:16 2018 No.10792502

>>10792465

I understand that youre making assumptions about my philosophy because you're used to arguing with a particular type of leftist on the internet but let's drop those airs and have an actual discussion.

What evidence supports the claim that whites are being consciously eradicated in America and Europe?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 09:05:53 2018 No.10792509 >>10792495 My point exactly. I very easily could've said God willing and said Insh'Allah just to see if you were enough of pseud to focus on ad hominem rather than actually responding to my argument. Great job exposing yourself.

Anonymous Sun Mar 4 09:50:17 2018 No.10792644

>>10792509
I know this is retarded bait, but fuckit i’ll bite.

Everything you say, I can understand. Has there been racial discrimination, yes. Have blacks been put down by whites, nobody can lie about that, yes. Are people still racist, yes.

I admit to those things.

Now it’s my turn.

WHY OH WHY THE FUCK must u negroes be so god damn uncivilized, I have tried so many times to give u god damn apes a chance but for every Neil Degrasse Tyson, there are 10 billion Tyrones. FFS, you can never act or behave like a normal human being. I have had the absolute displeasure of fucking having to work with you apes and everytime I do, you god damn negroes absolutely do nothing. Expect everything on a plate. That’s why Africa is a god forsaken shithole. All you animals care about is money, drugs, and all types of ‘’ill shit’’

how the fuck can you deny that your race is so god damn retarded. Everything you’re saying is ‘’it’s other peoples fault’’ nah maybe JUST MAYBE, it’s your own fucking fault, there’s a reason the whole world hates you, there’s a reason 90% of the people /lit/ talks about see you as nothing but animals.

Idek why im wasting my time with this, but anyways, enjoy living in your illusions. Thinking everyone is putting you down and that you wuz rly kangz n shit

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 10:00:20 2018 No.10792683 >>10790361 >I read Tolstoy but I'm not a born-again orthodox Christian anarchist

Anonymous Sun Mar 4 10:51:26 2018 No.10792853

>>10792502
>
I understand that youre making assumptions about my philosophy because you're used to arguing with a particular type of leftist on the internet but let's drop those airs and have an actual discussion.
Alright, neat. Never done this before, let's see how it goes.

>What evidence supports the claim that whites are being consciously eradicated in America and Europe?
Wow. I'm going to be nice and assume you've never talked to an intelligent right-winger before, and I won't crack any jokes about this. This will be a learning experience.

Social programs are giving large amounts of money to black mothers for having more children than they can afford, while slashing the budgets for schools in white areas. Laws are put in place to ensure there will always be "Enough" spaces at a company that HAVE to go to non-whites, to "Offset priveleges" that white people haven't gotten in over sixty years, and arguably never got. Schools were forced to change how they train kids to do math, based on the mindlessly complex nonsense-math forms invented by someone who, in interviews, boasted about how he wanted Common Core maths to "Lessen white privelege". "Refugees" are being imported into these countries en masse, savage and brutish people who have no respect for the culture of the country they were invited into. The cops, funded by the government we fund by working, the cops we expect to protect us and enforce our laws, are instead forced to avoid investigating crimes in which refugees are the perpetrators, while simply wrapping bacon around a mosque's handles or worse, putting up a flier that says "It's OK to be white", will summon the police and have them begin a criminal investigation. I don't even need to get into how often advertisements and shows will pair white women with black men, or how often the magazines and journalists and news shows in europe and america will bully white men and kick them while they're down. There are liberals who OPENLY BOAST that diversity is about replacing white people, and then go on to preach about what a "Good thing" this is because "#FuckWhitePeople".

(1/2)

Anonymous Sun Mar 4 10:55:11 2018 No.10792865

>>10792502
(2/2)
In all areas of our culture and the world, white people are seen as lesser. This is seen as a shocking and automatically-wrong statement by many liberals, because it's the exact opposite of what we're told. We're told that it's ok to bully white people, because they're at the top of the food chain so they "Deserve it".

But right now, we're worth less protection from the police, we're worth less consideration from our governments and the pseudointellectual elites, and we're worth less in the oppression olympics. We are told to be ashamed of our skin colour, our long history of successes, of all our inventions and accomplishments, and our comparatively egalitarian and kind-hearted culture because it isn't as egalitarian or kind-hearted as liberals were somehow duped into thinking Islamic culture is.

Liberals like to claim they haven't pushed white people far down enough yet because there "Aren't enough" black-protagonist and woman-protagonist and genderfluid-protagonist shows on TV, but they've had control over hollywood for decades, when are they going to stop blaming their own incompetences on our existences? For how long are they going to keep believing that if we all just vanished, they'd get to live in a 100%-perfect liberal utopia with no flaws or downsides?

How many towns in Sweden, Germany, and the UK have been turned into "No-Go Zones" by the abundance of imported savages unwilling to give up the culture that created the shithole countries they fled from? Islamic Culture has serious problems, but liberals don't want that looked at, they don't want anyone thinking anyone on their hated enemy, the right, could ever be right. And that's wrong.

1. [Muslim Gangs Continue To Terrorize 55 Neighborhoods, Police Powerless](http://archive.is/wMzRG))

2. [Leading Swedish mall turned into ‘no-go zone’ by migrant teen gangs](http://archive.is/m0rVE))

3. [Three police officers injured after being ATTACKED by thugs](http://archive.is/ctfSd))

4. [Adult Refugees Enrolled In Canadian High School, Harassing Young Girls](http://archive.is/sHBq5))

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 10:56:14 2018 No.10792868 >>10790465 did you read phaedrus nigga

Anonymous Sun Mar 4 10:56:32 2018 No.10792869

>>10792502
Here are some more links, view whichever ones you have the stomach for.

5. [Interview with a Syrian Refugee who wanted an education, had to hide it from her husband, married to him at 14](http://archive.is/oqEVM))

6. [Syrian Refugee Enrolled In Canadian High School Sexually Assaulted 14-Year-Old Girl](http://archive.is/CqsWM))

7. [180 rapes, assaults and robberies by migrants in just ONE German city](http://archive.is/HkpDR))

8. [Sharia Law in America](http://archive.is/MGPMZ))

9. [2 asylum seekers suspected of sexually harassing 5 girls in German swimming pool](http://archive.is/aLD0Y))

10. [A female must wear a Hijib because to Muslim men her entire body is a “SEX ORGAN”](http://archive.is/ZfXjE))

Anonymous Sun Mar 4 10:59:26 2018 No.10792873

>>10792502
I'm going to stop at 20.
11. [Moroccan immigrant drugs and rapes up to 230 women in Belgium.](https://translate.google.com/translate?depth=2&hl=en&nv=1&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=fr&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=http://www.dhnet.be/actu/faits/le-violeur-aux-230-victimes-utilisait-les-sites-d-escort-58b08f8acd70e898180accad))

12. [99.6% of Suicide Attacks in 2015 Were Committed by..... Muslims](http://www.timesofisrael.com/450-of-452-suicide-attacks-in-2015-were-by-muslim-extremists-study-shows/))

13. [1,500 British schoolgirls kidnapped and raped by Muslims in England, covered up for years.](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11059138/Rotherham-In-the-face-of-such-evil-who-is-the-racist-now.html))

14. [Grenade attacks in Sweden over the years](https://files.catbox.moe/ckyb0j.png).). [Link to Wikipedia page](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_grenade_attacks_in_Sweden))

15. [Swedish women in a wheel-chair gets gangraped by 6 refugees.](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3831991/Wheelchair-bound-woman-gang-raped-six-migrants-Swedish-asylum-centre-asking-use-toilet.html))

16. [Swedish Police Chief advises girls: "Don't go out after sunset or you'll be raped"](https://streamable.com/qrctm))

17. [More Than 90 Percent of Middle Eastern Refugees on Food Stamps](http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/10/more-than-90-percent-of-middle-eastern-refugees-on-food-stamps/))

18. [380 of 580 Terrorism Cases From 2001-2014 Involved Foreign-Born Islamists](http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/02/senate-report-380-580-terrorism-cases-2001-2014-involved-foreign-born-islamists/))

19. [Japan decides to let in 27 muslims. 2 of them immediately commit rape and robbery.](http://conservativetribune.com/japan-admits-muslim-refugees/))

20. [Muslim Refugee Who Raped 10-Year-Old Boy Gets Pass Because He Didn't Know It Was Wrong](http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/264588/muslim-refugee-who-raped-10-year-old-boy-gets-pass-daniel-greenfield))

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 11:02:04 2018 No.10792888 >>10792335 Is this peak Judaism?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 11:02:32 2018 No.10792890 >>10790366 Fucking kek

Anonymous Sun Mar 4 11:05:57 2018 No.10792900 [DELETED]

>>10792869
>7. [180 rapes, assaults and robberies by migrants in just ONE German city](http://archive.is/HkpDR))
This is the only one I could be bothered to look at and it's about female refugees being sexually assaulted and German cities opening female retreats for sexually assaulted refugees. Do you actually read the articles you link?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 11:23:39 2018 No.10792950 >>10790361 >>10790444 >I only read what I will wholeheartedly agree with

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 11:37:36 2018 No.10792995 >>10792853 >>10792865 >he thinks that it`s something more than social results of marxism and pathological altruism that grew out from and replaced christian ethics >he thinks that terrorist incidents and rise of crime are indication of West's doom

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 11:48:25 2018 No.10793044 >>10790361 I thought his sister changed his work after he died to make it more nazi

Anonymous Sun Mar 4 12:00:44 2018 No.10793091
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>>10792363
>>10792472
Maybe you should consider if you are the one using motivated reasoning when you don't assimilate any statistics or evidence that demonstrate the failures of blacks, but immediately accept statistics attempting to explain them away without asking any deeper question because you already know they are true because america is racist and blacks are really just like the rest of us. You will keep looking for more statistics until they confirm your ideology then recognize them as the true statistics. The New Jim Crow is actually a prime example of just how delusional liberals are, yes in the liberal mind even not being racist is racist, yes if Michelle Alexander was in charge felons would be a protected class. That liberals choose to believe the inane narrative presented by Michelle Alexander and pass the buck for black failures onto the racist by indifference white man in an age where 74% of whites believe racism is a serious problem(huffpo) demonstrates exactly what type of critical thinkers liberals are.

A few google searches didn't reveal any similar statistics for school shootings so here are statistics for mass shootings, which show whites under represented and blacks over represented from a self identified progressive source.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 12:10:46 2018 No.10793132 >>10791333 >implying anyone could be a beast or a god Aristotle is making the point that there is not an individual man just as there isn't such thing as a married bachelor.

Anonymous Sun Mar 4 13:36:46 2018 No.10793466

>>10793091

I'm not sure what you're talking about. I value any statistic I can find if it's credible and I also value asking the reasons as to why statistics are the way they are without coming to short conclusions but rather through communication, research, and experience come to my own. I know where you're coming from to be like "no it's simple blacks really are dumb just look at the statistics" but when you grow up black, around black people, learning to love and hate them when they're wonderful or just plain retarded its not so easy as to leave things at "well it's just low IQ, they're inferior", humans are much more than that, I believe. I certainly won't ignore a credible statistic I just like to have as much info on a situation as I can get.

>>10792853

I appreciate you dropping these links. It's a lot so I'll check them out later.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 13:45:13 2018 No.10793504 >>10791116 why idiots post in this board https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1968_movement_in_Italy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Brigades

Anonymous Sun Mar 4 13:45:33 2018 No.10793507

>>10792644

This isnt normal man. Listen, it's fully fine if you disagree on political things with people. The way that you're showing me how much you hate another human is saddening. Its saddening because I know that it doesn't feel good to hate someone I know it doesn't feel good to be lashing out at people on the internet when they're asking you to be compassionate. But fuck it yo I love you. I mean that shit you can take what you want and think im a faggot or whatever else but know that I mean it when I say I love you and the last thing I want is for you to feel that this is insincere or condescending but please just think about that. Think about why you have to hate people when you have the capacity to love. Think about why you have to hate someone that wants to have a discourse with you and wants you to be open to compassion. I could give a fuck if everyone talks shit to me for this but purely cutting political shit it's unhealthy for you to feel that way about another human and I really want you to understand that I'm only saying that out of compassion for you as another man. I could be typing this all for nothing but I hope you do read this and I hope that something I say resonates with you positively.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 13:46:12 2018 No.10793511 >>10793091 so over 30 years where were less than 100 "mass shootings" but this is supposed to be the most pressing issue facing america? when people on the right make charts like that about terrorism places like mother jones scream racism

>>	Numen !!GgBWHLRiayD Sun Mar 4 13:48:53 2018 No.10793530 >>10790361 Racism and hate are slave morality and those who would have read and understood Nietzsche would feel contempt towards racism, the inverse of hate.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 14:30:29 2018 No.10793692 >agreeing with everything that you read beyond Nietzsche not being a racist, that kind of gospel obedience to any philosopher is herd through and through. do not try to be Nietzsche's shadow.

Anonymous Sun Mar 4 15:21:56 2018 No.10793930

>>10793466
>/pol/ looks at black crime stats and asks why are these stats the way they are, the answer is a narrative about how black people are inherently prone to committing more crimes.
>you look at black crime stats and ask why are these stats the way they are, the answer is stats that show blacks are over persecuted for drug use, if you ask why are these stats the way they are the answer you come up with is because the narrative about the relationship between the American government and black people.
Now do you see my point? In any case yes yes we can not leave things at someone is failing some test, someone breaking the law, and so on they are now worthless or they are worse less then someone who is not these things. But you will observe that statistics only say things about groups of people not about any one person. If a person values things like intelligence and following the law and being a so called "productive member of society", and these values are not so easily impeachable in a general sense, then if statistics show certain races are on average having these traits you will admit the conclusion for that person will be a belief that some races are better than others(racism). There is no real implication of this... only see that yes I love or hate them regardless about what is true about the group they belong to is not fundamentally contradicting racist beliefs. Race a proxy... not something good or bad in itself, this is not contradicting racism. This thing racism is not so bad. The extent to which a society must rely on these proxies is related to how powerful it is. "many of these people are you know criminals but of course they are not all we will give them a chance and so on" a trade off is made you know, how much we are giving up for this, and how the impression of a moral duty is. "many of these people are you know criminals many of these are not but we will not subject them to different scrutiny so they will not be feeling uncomfortable ect ect" you get the idea.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 15:22:59 2018 No.10793937 >>10793530 Racism at its core is nothing but a bunch of observations and statistics. has nothing to do with hate

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 15:30:52 2018 No.10793958 >>10790366 lel

>>	Numen !!GgBWHLRiayD Sun Mar 4 15:38:37 2018 No.10793990 >>10793937 "At its core" are the key words here, I was referring to how it's generally used and treated today, but otherwise yeah you're right

Anonymous Sun Mar 4 16:15:52 2018 No.10794181

>>10793930
I should say more that obviously this is simplifying what is going on here because your concern with racism seems to be simplification of the individual into statistic. I was going to show "racism with a human face", but what I have rather shown is "racism with a liberal face" and the liberal face is rather inhuman in my opinion. "racism with a human face" is people live in their house with their family they will say we are not just looking the same with have a connection and maybe you know a mutual duty. So, in their house with their family in their nation with their race. And they will say yes we look the same but also... and so on. This is really the human face of racism and people know htis that is why people are always asking hte question of interracial marriage, it is related, you see we take someone who is not in the nation into the house.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 16:17:30 2018 No.10794191 >>10793937 >explaining an abstraction in-itself get out of here, pleb

Numen !!GgBWHLRiayD Sun Mar 4 16:33:55 2018 No.10794255

>>10794191
Beside the fact that everything that can be said is ultimately an abstraction, he's not explaining it in-itself. Race is biogenetic distinctness, the effects of which have been mistaken for the cause and conflated in the modern world.

Anonymous Sun Mar 4 17:20:52 2018 No.10794464
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>>10793507
You’re too kind for your own good. You’re an intellectual surrounded by people who have nothing except disdain for your way of thinking. I won’t change my ways, my experiences in life has shaped me the way I am now, nothing can change that, I appreciate the kind words tho. Cya

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 17:23:13 2018 No.10794476 >>10793937 >bunch of observations and statistics Then why do scientists not take “race science” seriously at all? You know Phrenology is just observations and measurements right?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 17:26:19 2018 No.10794490 >>10794476 >Then why do scientists not take “race science” seriously at all? yeah complete mystery we have here. Couldn't be because being labeled racist ruins your life. Nope. Hmmmmmm

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 17:26:28 2018 No.10794492 >>10793692 >beyond Nietzsche not being a racist Yeah man, the guy who believed nearly all social problems could be traced back to race and changes in quality of stock was not a racist.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 17:29:05 2018 No.10794508 >>10794490 Are you sure it’s not because 100+ years of “race science” did not bear any fruit whatsoever?

Anonymous Sun Mar 4 17:31:52 2018 No.10794528

>>10794508
Every single study ever done on race shows that races are different. The entirety of the anti-racist movement is predicated on saying that these differences are environmental.

Seriously you cannot find a single study anywhere that has a group of black people with the same IQ or skull size as a group of Chinese people. Just doesn't exist. Strangely enough no developed black countries exist either.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 17:33:21 2018 No.10794539 >>10794528 Why do Nigerians that study in the US outperform their American student counterparts?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 17:34:40 2018 No.10794542 >>10794539 Nigerian immigrants are a selected elite, who can get into university with much lower scores than whites or asians because they're black, and probably don't actually perform better at anything requirig intelligence anyway.

Anonymous Sun Mar 4 17:34:46 2018 No.10794544

>>10794492
>Yeah man, the guy who believed nearly all social problems could be traced back to race and changes in quality of stock was not a racist.

Where do you find this? I know he is against race mixing and cultural dilution but I have seen nowhere that Nietzsche favors any race over the other, and have contrarily read his diatribes against anti-semites and collective hate groups.

>all social problems could be traced back to race and changes in quality of stock was not a racist.
cite this. The Nietzsche I have read has traced epidemics of slave morality and nihilism through Europe

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 17:35:53 2018 No.10794552 >>10794542 I didn’t say anything about acceptance. Why do they outperform whites when accepted?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 17:36:44 2018 No.10794559 >>10794552 Why is Nigeria a shithole? I already explained to you they're an elite

Anonymous Sun Mar 4 17:40:22 2018 No.10794574

>>10794528
>Every single study ever done on race shows that races are different.
No shit.
>The entirety of the anti-racist movement is predicated on saying that these differences are environmental.
>Controlling for environmental causes and having more rigorous epistemological concerns somehow makes something less valid
mind = blown

Anonymous Sun Mar 4 17:41:12 2018 No.10794578

>>10794559
How does an inferior race produce superior specimens to superior races? How did this elite form if the population is illiterate and stupid? Can you think of any other examples in history where nobility or other aristocrats intellectually dominated the illiterate peasantry in their lands? Hint: think Europe.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 17:42:44 2018 No.10794586 >>10794574 and yet no study that controls for environmental factors has ever shown the differences disappearing there's also the entire continent of Africa making a very obvious argument on the side of racism

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 17:43:46 2018 No.10794593 >>10794578 Do you seriously not understand what an average is?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 17:45:38 2018 No.10794608 >>10794586 >whites have lower IQ than Asians and Jews >w-well at least we have higher IQs than worntorn islamic refugees, malnourished africans , and cartel members

Anonymous Sun Mar 4 17:46:49 2018 No.10794618

>>10794528
>races are different
The spirit of the aristocratic humanist does not let prejudice get in the way of greatness. The individual determines their own worth, race means nothing on the level of man -- the only level that should be attended to. A weak spirit well bred is as useless and parasitic as any other. Eugenics is a pragmatic-utopianism that assumes the sustainability of the human on tools of logic alone, as if we have reached the end of all knowledge and our systems of logic are at long last perfected. It is an absurd myth of teleology and the same narcissistic blindness of all religion. It is a perverse nihilism and will to death.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 17:47:07 2018 No.10794621 >>10794608 >worntorn I hope this is a joke. And yes whites have lower IQ than Jews and East Asians

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 17:50:49 2018 No.10794637 >>10794593 Do you not understand that Africans who grow up in a comparatively american middle class equivalent home in Africa will on average outperform middle class Americans in school?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 17:52:48 2018 No.10794649 >>10794637 wildly untrue. Unless you're using meme statistics about blacks being let into university Whenever blacks are imported in large numbers, for example the Somalis in Minnesota they become a violent poor underclass

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 17:53:06 2018 No.10794652 >>10794621 >I hope this is a joke For how many years has there been artificially maintained war in the Middle East? Go ahead and call the bombardments for 40+ years hoaxes and false flags, retard. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-43277856

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 17:54:28 2018 No.10794659 >>10794652 I was referring to 'worntorn' Anyway have fun defending minorities just remember not to actually visit their neighborhoods because they'll rob you regardless of how much you argue for them on 4chan

Anonymous Sun Mar 4 17:55:49 2018 No.10794668

>>10794544
>Where do you find this?
Haven't you read any of his stuff at all? His theory of the emergence of Buddhism was that the Hindu races had grown old and weak and that their stock had worn out
He attributed the decline of German culture to the decline of the German blood and said that Jews were better artists because they still had good stock. He also said that the Germans had too much "pre-Aryan" blood
>he Nietzsche I have read has traced epidemics of slave morality and nihilism through Europe
And he traced slave morality to bad blood. Individuals with slave morality, like Socrates, he claims, have exhibited signs of poor descent. Namely personal ugliness. The Jews, supposedly, are predisposed by certain racial characteristics to spread slave morality.

Anonymous Sun Mar 4 17:57:11 2018 No.10794672
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>>10794659
I accept your concession. You shouldn’t mouth off about philosophers you have never read, and you shouldn’t twist their words to support your zionist political ideology.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 17:58:27 2018 No.10794684 >>10794672 You're aware that most philosophers were extremely racist aren't you

Anonymous Sun Mar 4 17:59:43 2018 No.10794693

>>10794668
>Haven't you read any of his stuff at all? His theory of the emergence of Buddhism was that the Hindu races had grown old and weak and that their stock had worn out

he has a point though, the buddha was kshatriya and when he was finally old enough to take up his duties as a warrior he ran away into the woods to jackoff

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 18:00:57 2018 No.10794700 >>10794693 Buddhism is also just extremely gay >suffering exists therefore life is suffering

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 18:02:19 2018 No.10794707 >>10794684 Name one serious philosopher that incorporated his personal and unfounded racist beliefs into their philosophical system.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 18:02:47 2018 No.10794708 >>10794707 Hegel

Anonymous Sun Mar 4 18:03:57 2018 No.10794719

>>10794668
>the Hindu races had grown old and weak and that their stock had worn out
As the Germans had grown weak and fallen to Christianity

>And he traced slave morality to bad blood
Where? I just read Genealogy of Morals.

>Individuals with slave morality, like Socrates, he claims, have exhibited signs of poor descent.
Hardly. Socrates appears as a recurrent figure in Birth of Tragedy and The Gay Science as the will to truth and the rational man who desires to reduce the world to knowability, one of the major responses to 19th century nihilism. To make him a figure for racist intellectualism by your own attribution of race to his criticisms is willful ignorance and willful schizophrenia.

Anonymous Sun Mar 4 18:03:59 2018 No.10794720

>>10794700
Yeah, that's Nietzsche's point. It has more to do with the perception of life than with life itself. The race begins to wither, everything becomes a struggle and there is more pain than anything else. Therefore, "life is suffering." Of course, stronger stocks, like the Arabs or the Vikings, were affirming life even under much harsher circumstances.

It's really one of Nietzsche's best theories, but people only give him credit for the stuff he never invented.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 18:05:42 2018 No.10794732 >>10794708 You have not read Hegel. Dialectics does lend support to racism.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 18:06:44 2018 No.10794743 >>10794732 Does not*

Anonymous Sun Mar 4 18:07:16 2018 No.10794750

>>10794732
The peculiarly African character is difficult to comprehend, for
the very reason that in reference to it, we must quite give up the
principle which naturally accompanies all our ideas — the
category of Universality. In Negro life the characteristic point is
G.W.F. Hegel, The Philosophy of History, 111
the fact that consciousness has not yet attained to the realization
of any substantial objective existence — as for example, God, or
Law — in which the interest of man’s volition is involved and in
which he realizes his own being. This distinction between
himself as an individual and the universality of his essential
being, the African in the uniform, undeveloped oneness of his
existence has not yet attained; so that the Knowledge of an
absolute Being, an Other and a Higher than his individual self, is
entirely wanting. The Negro, as already observed, exhibits the
natural man in his completely wild and untamed state. We must
lay aside all thought of reverence and morality — all that we call
feeling — if we would rightly comprehend him; there is nothing
harmonious with humanity to be found in this type of character.

http://www.efm.bris.ac.uk/het/hegel/history.pdf

Anonymous Sun Mar 4 18:07:34 2018 No.10794752

>>10794719
>As the Germans had grown weak and fallen to Christianity
Your point exactly? He traces it to blood.
>Where? I just read Genealogy of Morals.
Read his account of Socrates.
>To make him a figure for racist intellectualism by your own attribution of race to his criticisms is willful ignorance and willful schizophrenia.
Not to race, but to blood. Bad race is nothing but bad blood on a general level. Therefore, he questioned Socrates' ancestry.
Nietzsche on socrates
>In origin, Socrates belonged to the lowest class: Socrates was plebs. We know, we can still see for ourselves, how ugly he was. But ugliness, in itself an objection, is among the Greeks almost a refutation. Was Socrates a Greek at all? Ugliness is often enough the expression of a development that has been crossed, thwarted by crossing. Or it appears as declining development. The anthropologists among the criminologists tell us that the typical criminal is ugly: monstrum in fronte, monstrum in animo. [“monster in face, monster in soul”] But the criminal is a decadent. Was Socrates a typical criminal? At least that would not be contradicted by the famous judgment of the physiognomist which sounded so offensive to the friends of Socrates. A foreigner who knew about faces once passed through Athens and told Socrates to his face that he was a monstrum -- that he harbored in himself all the bad vices and appetites. And Socrates merely answered: "You know me, sir!"

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 18:12:00 2018 No.10794780 >>10794750 An offhand remark in the 16th century about blacks can be excused seeing as how it has zero relevance to his actual work.

Anonymous Sun Mar 4 18:14:07 2018 No.10794794

>>10794780
>the 16th century
I am beginning to suspect you have no idea who Hegel is.

It's not offhand, everything he says about Africans in his philosophy of history is very racist and stems directly from his philosophy. He's going over all the regions of the world and talking about their culture from the perspective of his weird tripartite history thing

Anonymous Sun Mar 4 18:19:22 2018 No.10794828

>>10794752
I don't see blood anywhere in that passage. A hatred of the decadent plebian manner is not enough to read race in this. If a posthumously published attack on Socrate's appearance is enough to recontextualize an entire corpus of writing which has examined Socrates as an intellectual type I think your faith is already too firmly rooted.

Nietzsche would not write Thus Spoke Zarathustra and Beyond Good and Evil if he thought at bottom Europe's problem was a problem of blood. It is a problem of the will lowering itself to herd instinct. If you want to posit a racial motivation for that it's on you.

day zero Sun Mar 4 18:23:23 2018 No.10794850

>>10790492
misusing green text
>>10790498
no it won’t and this is because your understanding of race is not tenable scientifically, haplogroups absolutely are not races and can never be reified by taxonomy. yes, something that could be usefully called isolated groups that we can colloquially call race is necessary for talking about HBD, but there is simply no proof of human subspecies there is far too much heterogeneity in these haplogroups’ distribution among “racial pops” to constitute the races of the 19th century. Alpinids, Turanids, Semites are not distinct taxa and never have been. Of course there indeed phenotypic differences that would lead to differing behavior patterns, so you can still be “racist” but its as a heuristic not as science. there is no hard and fast distinction between these groups, craniometry and haplogroups simply do not offer enough distinction to classify humans this way. it cannot be done, we are a unique species and we migrate too far, intermingle too much compared to all other species on this planet. there is nothing like a human because no group can walk as far or tame animals and make wheels for transport. no other group intermarries like we do. your self contained steve sailer, nick land fantasy land does not work in the field of taxonomy. im sorry
>>10790514
no it does not because statistical evidence is statistical, it is not based on actual observations but on extrapolating from small datasets. of the millions who are analyzed billions are not and every single time larger groups are examined resolution, discriminating lines, fades

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 18:25:05 2018 No.10794860 >>10794850 Meanwhile black countries suck, white countries are good, and your deluge of words can't change this

Anonymous Sun Mar 4 18:25:38 2018 No.10794863

>>10794828
>I don't see blood anywhere in that passage.
>Ugliness is often enough the expression of a development that has been crossed, thwarted by crossing....Was Socrates a Greek at all?

You're a blockhead
>Nietzsche would not write Thus Spoke Zarathustra and Beyond Good and Evil if he thought at bottom Europe's problem was a problem of blood. It is a problem of the will lowering itself to herd instinct. If you want to posit a racial motivation for that it's on you.
He thought that Christian egalitarianism was preventing Europe from addressing the real problem of blood

Anonymous Sun Mar 4 18:47:36 2018 No.10794944

>>10793930

You're not describing racism. The left has convinced people the telling the truth is inherently racist so you guys started believing it. It's not racist to understand the validity of statistics and that races are genuinely different. I think making a hierachy and saying one is better than the other is pointless because I think skills, talents, and ailments all manifest in many different ways between races. But I don't think there's anything wrong with acknowledging that these differences exist. That's not racist don't think that it is.

Numen !!GgBWHLRiayD Sun Mar 4 19:01:26 2018 No.10795024
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>>10794618
>The spirit of the aristocratic humanist does not let prejudice get in the way of greatness.
Depends how you define "prejudice" and "humanist". A mark of a healthy man is judging according to signs/labels that indicate to him that whether or not something is conducive to health, e.g. deciding not to read particular texts, listen to particular types of music, watch particular movies/series, etc. because of the distinct decadent fanbase associated with them, deciding not to engage in practices or consume products created by particular races or types of people due to a family resemblance of consistently detrimental effects associated with them he would like to avoid.

>The individual determines their own worth, race means nothing on the level of man -- the only level that should be attended to.
You're teetering on a naturalistic fallacy there bro by treating "man" like some magical umbrella signified. Race is simply a characterization of man's biogenetical traits to whatever relative end, not some spooky comdemnation.

>A weak spirit well bred is as useless and parasitic as any other. Eugenics is a pragmatic-utopianism that assumes the sustainability of the human on tools of logic alone, as if we have reached the end of all knowledge and our systems of logic are at long last perfected. It is an absurd myth of teleology and the same narcissistic blindness of all religion. It is a perverse nihilism and will to death.
Maybe if you think of Eugenics constituted within a pragmatic framework, but nobody in the post/s you referred to said anything about Eugenics.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 19:25:59 2018 No.10795180 >>10794780 >Asks for a philosopher with racist beliefs >Moves the goalpost after presented evidence

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 19:27:59 2018 No.10795187 >>10790361 N was a natural aristocrat who understood cultural influences as being either useful or detrimental to what he was talking about, he was not a racist.

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 19:29:41 2018 No.10795193 File: 53 KB, 494x443, 1518303154312.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10795187 >he was not a racist. >reddit spacing Why am I not surprised

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 19:32:26 2018 No.10795205 >>10795193 R/JordanPeterson having a slow day?

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 19:33:48 2018 No.10795212 >>10790361 >I read Nieztsche but I haven't critically examined the conviction I hold

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 19:33:59 2018 No.10795213 >>10795205 i think my brain has finally started to naturally filter out jordan peterson threads just like that other pseud-extraordinaire dfw, if i don't consciously look for them i don't even see them anymore

>>	Anonymous Sun Mar 4 19:54:39 2018 No.10795294 >>10790366 As an American, although I suppose the attention should be flattering, I have to say that this board would be a lot more interesting if the Euros on it would stop talking so much about us.

Anonymous Sun Mar 4 20:02:03 2018 No.10795323
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>>10794850
The European wildcat is almost genetically identical to African wildcats and their house cat descendants, but maintain a uniqueness of phenotype which allows them to thrive in cold environments, as well as a personality temperament characterized by being infamously untamable (Shakespeare even referenced it this way). This race of wildcat would not normally Interbreed with other types in natural conditions, but often does so now due to loss of habitat. Because of this, the European wildcat is nearly extinct, but receives no attention from the IUCN which doesn't differentiate between the different subspecies of wildcat (all wildcats are the same!!!), so they will likely die out and with them their unique nature, despite the efforts niche conservation groups to maintain the purity of this particular race of cat.

Anonymous Mon Mar 5 00:04:37 2018 No.10796232

>>10794944
You have allowed yourself to be induced into a liberal framework where racism and bigotry is the only true evil. Once we admit races are different (they are) it follows inevitably that as far as we say some traits are better than others we will also say some races are better than others. The liberal cowers away from saying from saying anything is better than anything unless you dare to be intolerant.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 00:07:22 2018 No.10796242 >>10790780 I- I mean, is there anyone really like this? ;_;

Anonymous Mon Mar 5 00:53:04 2018 No.10796383

>>10796232

The issue with saying that one race is better than another is that your criteria is based on their ability to perform well in a capitalist society. The usual argument is

Having a high IQ makes you superior
Black people do not have as high and avg IQ as whites
Whites are superior

When the premise of that argument declares itself as true with no sound basis. Why exactly does having a high IQ make one superior when IQ is primarily concerned with logic-driven abilities and there are other tools that humans have to help them interact with reality? I mention the capitalist thing because people usually base this superiority off of financial success and civilization's contribution to the world. However many of the civilizations which have brought great benefits to the world have also brought great blights on them. Sure European's have great culture and made some great technology. Sure the asians did too. Was a lot of the technology more efficient than what Africans made? Sure. Are they better at logic than Africans? Probably. But why should the conversation end there? Europeans have certainly killed more outsider groups than Africans have. They definitely have a higher tendency for anxiety, general insecurity, and all sorts of other self-loathing than blacks. Black people are certainly more intuitive than whites and this has even been noted by whites themselves except it's written as blacks being "superstitious". But I think our affinities for the arts and spirituality are evidence enough to make a conjecture that we are intuitively inclined. Maybe not logically inclined but who cares? There's nothing wrong with acknowledging that one group is better than another group at a specific set of things. However, that doesn't mean you need to just flat out disregard the value of other skills that help one navigate life. Skills like compassion, intuition as I mentioned before, self-love, and a whole bunch of other things that whites have a history of lacking. I notice that people on the website have a habit of defining their self-value and worth based as being superior to another in competition. The people on this website are notoriously miserable and also notoriously racist. You think there's no correlation there? Blacks are inferior yet whites are more prone to self-loathing, atheism, and all sorts of baleful conditions. Now, I'm not arguing that whites are inferior because of this, of course not. I'm saying that there are clearly different skills that each race has which benefit and hinder them and that no one is literally trapped by the prospects offered to them in their race. To only value one set of skills and completely shut down any argument suggesting that there are more is simply cowardice to me. Fear of accepting that you're not better than anyone else. And the silly thing is there's nothing wrong with that. You can love yourself without basing that off of a system that tries to give you external reasons to value your existence.

Anonymous Mon Mar 5 00:59:54 2018 No.10796404

>>10796383

Granted you can just as well argue back to me that me rejecting the capitalist viewpoint is also cowardice in that I'm refusing to acknowledge that I may be inferior to another man. Thats definitely a logical stance however I disagree with it. I disagree with it because I believe that the capitalist perspective is inherently flawed in that it values ego-based conjectures exclusively and thus limits itself indefinitely. To view world through the lens of reason alone is restricting. In a world where everything in nature acts in harmony with one another, why would a system suggesting that some people have less to offer than others be correct? Nature itself operates in accordance to with harmony. Why would a system that rejects that be wholly correct?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 01:05:03 2018 No.10796426 >>10796383 >atheism, and all sorts of baleful conditions Well fuck you, too.

Anonymous Mon Mar 5 02:14:28 2018 No.10796665

>>10796383
Like I said I don't disagree with what you are saying but like you yourself admit a capitalist society has its values and some races will excel this is the liberal, inhuman, face of racism. Of course the liberal does not differentiate as far as people go, to differentiate people is the ultimate evil for the liberal. But as we know, the liberal is a capitalist, and capitalism differentiates, this is why liberals are so paranoid about racism. Continuing the discussion see my post below.
>>10794181
You yourself list many reason to believe the nation founded on race is in harmony. The liberal protests this because as I said the liberal does not differentiate, this is why the liberal often cries "think of the street food" because that is what culture means to the liberal, different food. And of course the protestant capitalist ideology doesn't care about culture or harmony, human values are nothing to the capitalist. This is why even the "human face of capitalism" is purely economical, where we will give the losers money too. The capitalist society cares nothing for harmony, in fact it thrives on brinkmanship and chaos.

Anonymous Mon Mar 5 02:19:35 2018 No.10796690

>>10794860
meanwhile you're a fucking subhuman who doesn't understand subtlety and who should be euthanized
>>10795323
none of that is proof of race existing in humans at all, we know there are races of animals, they're called subspecies and they do exist. Though to say they exist is rather stupid and indicative of scientific insanity on its own level. But, even scientists don't believe this about humans

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 02:24:08 2018 No.10796705 >>10796690 >it's a coincidence that black countries suck and black people have very low iq, smaller skulls, etc. sew subtle anon

Anonymous Mon Mar 5 02:31:57 2018 No.10796735

>>10796705
No its not a coincidence, they are subsets of humans that on average have lower iq's they are not a race of people. There are no races, its a linguistic social-science concept used to organize bodies of data for explication and analysis. There are no biological races of humans. if there were it would be a scientific concept taught in schools, but there are not. Because they all flow into each other. If there were there would be ten thousand races, most Europeans would be a combination of 10-15 of them, often completely different combinations in the same fucking country. Germans are not pure Germanic, Celts are not pure Celtic, Slavs are not pure Slavic. Even the whites looking Russians have other blood in them you fucking idiot. You faggots gloat over haplogroups and then forget that noone is 100% R1b at all, Nords who are 50% steppe are a mix of other haplogroups and this negates their being a consistent group of people, and even this varies considerably among them. Finally, no one has the resources to analyze all of the genomes of every human on earth, so you will never be able to even vaguely prove that people are actually of one type, this besides the fact that they are all distinguishable from one another. The prevalence of a pheno does not make a race by itself.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 02:34:38 2018 No.10796749 >>10796735 so what's going on here https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/racial-gap-in-kidney-transplants-combated-by-policy-changes/

Anonymous Mon Mar 5 02:41:31 2018 No.10796768

>>10796749
someone is using a social-science heuristic to explain something that doesn't require race to talk about. genetic clusters are not races, subsets of the social science concept "race" do not apply to the whole race. none of the things you think imply race imply race. There are distinct genomes which often have certain phenotypes expressed like low iq. "Blacks" are dumber than "whites" but there is no such thing as a white genome or a black genome, there are merely phenos we associate strongly with either trait. They are not consistent. You're fucking with language to engineer a black people particle, or a white people gene, this doesn't exist. Whites shares most of their unique phenos with other races of people and there are probably thousands of races of Caucasoids. Its just as stupid term non-scientists use to classify homo-sapiens. There's no need for it, genomics eliminates the need for linguistic analysis of human systems. We can talk about everything in terms of nucelotides and datum.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 02:43:57 2018 No.10796776 >>10796768 why are groups of genetically distinct people not races

Anonymous Mon Mar 5 02:44:04 2018 No.10796778

>>10796735
yet when I wake up in the morning and look in the mirror I see a member of the white race. And when I go about my day i have the misfortune of seeing spics mongs japs chinks niggers and sandmonkeys. Your social """"""""""science""""""""" isnt going to work here reddit scum

Anonymous Mon Mar 5 02:45:34 2018 No.10796783

>>10796776
because they're not consistently distinct enough to be classified as such, the variable distinction is not constitutive of a subspecies of homo-sapiens they're just diverse subsets of the species nothing more. you're right that its a biological difference, it is not on the level of subspecies
>>10796778
(You)

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 02:46:55 2018 No.10796787 >>10796783 is this an entirely arbitrary thing or is there some level that has to be reached? Are the Pygmies distinct enough to be a race?

Anonymous Mon Mar 5 02:49:57 2018 No.10796795

>>10790361
>>10790444

I don't understand this thread. It seems like none of you actually read Nietzsche.

>I read Nietzsche but I hate racism
>I read Augustine but I'm not Christian

This implies that Nietzsche was racist? I don't know who you're making fun of but nobody believes this other than absolute spackers who haven't read since high school.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 02:50:14 2018 No.10796796 >>10796783 So your trying to make a semantic point no one cares about. We will make sure to refer to blacks as a distinct genome that is violent and stupid instead of an inferior race whenever you are listening

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 02:51:45 2018 No.10796800 >>10792492 We don't care you don't belong in our countries

Anonymous Mon Mar 5 02:53:43 2018 No.10796804

>>10796787
the pygmies are probably a relic population, I do not know considering how distant they are from the Bantus and Australoids. Interesting sophistry though since we're talking about widely understood races lik Bantus, Europids, Mongoloids and not pygmies who are incredibly distinct from all other groups due to their physiognomy and size which is uncanny.
>>10796796
well no its extremely important because if it has no biological reality its essentially just a term used for mechanical reasons while doing research and for law enforcement, it has no physical reality and thus you'd be an idealist or a liar I guess, if you tried to use it the way you want to use it. It would also protect smart "blacks" and smart "jews" from being gassed by retards who think there are black genes that make you evil or jewish genes that make you evil.

Anonymous Mon Mar 5 02:54:14 2018 No.10796805

>>10795294
>implying he's a euro
He's just as likely to be Vietnamese or Australian. The meme is about insulting /pol/ white nationalists. Who are mainly """""white""""" (mixed race) Americans. Also, this classic (identical) reply only exacerbates the memeage. Muh OBSESSED.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 02:57:39 2018 No.10796814 >>10796690 We are a subspecies: homo sapiens sapiens. The other homo sapiens subspecies are long-extinct.

Anonymous Mon Mar 5 03:00:19 2018 No.10796824

>>10796814
there are no other distinct subspecies of homo sapiens extant today. sub-saharans bleed into north africans as do east africans and this would not allow for a distinct race of people to show up. genetic clusters of alleles are not the same thing as subspecies. humans can be highly distinct but it never strays into speciation

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 03:02:06 2018 No.10796826 >>10796804 nothing will protect blacks and jews from me

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 03:02:16 2018 No.10796827 >>10796824 are polar bears and grizzly bears different races

Anonymous Mon Mar 5 03:03:15 2018 No.10796830

>>10796827
no they're different species of bears and the differences between them are so vast as to make humans look extremely similar by comparison
>>10796826
if you harm a jew or a black in a law abiding society you will just go to jail man, I don't think you're a threat to anyone but yourself

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 03:03:49 2018 No.10796832 >>10796830 but they interbreed in the wild

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 03:07:42 2018 No.10796846 >>10796830 Yet its the blacks who go to jail after being """"""racially"""""" profiled by the republicans i vote for. And its a bunch of """"jews""""" that I reported to my school last week for violating the honor code. Im unstoppable.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 03:08:15 2018 No.10796849 >>10796832 distinct species of animals can sometimes do this anon. that doesn't make humans the same, the grizzley's and polar bears are completely distinct from each other. Humans are not, you're not getting anywhere with this logic man

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 03:08:58 2018 No.10796850 >>10796849 what's the difference?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 03:11:30 2018 No.10796857 >>10796850 Grizzley's are significantly more consistently distinct from Polar Bears than an Ethiopian and a Syrian or a Jew and a Mayan are.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 03:13:06 2018 No.10796862 >>10796857 as in numbers of genes that are different?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 03:17:30 2018 No.10796871 >I read Nietzsche but I hate racism >I read Augustine but I'm not Christian This implies that Nietzsche was racist? I don't know who you're making fun of but nobody believes this other than absolute spackers who haven't read since high school.

Anonymous Mon Mar 5 07:52:37 2018 No.10797417

>>10796665

I agree with this. I think the issue with a lot of people posting in this thread trying to deny the IQ disparity is that they don't know black people and don't know what they're allowed to admit as true. I'm black, I know that black people have a lesser affinity for logic than other races, that's obvious. However, it's nothing to feel bad about. Studies have shown that in proper environments blacks only score a few points under whites in testing when they come from a similar background. Im sure there is agenuine disparity between the races and their IQs but they've definitely been warped overtime as a result of environmental circumstances. I remember Thomas Sowell mentioning how the Jews IQ avg actually was raised during a certain time in I think the early 20th century just because they had access to a bunch of libraries and other things. This isn't to say that people don't have natural affinities, but that they can be altered to a certain degree. But here's the catch: People don't need to feel bad about any of this. A black man can score just as well as a white man on a test. We can be engineers, physicists, educators, just as much as the next man. Sure we may have a couple less IQ points on average but so what? We have a history of affinity for intuition, music, performance arts, and all sorts of soulful expression. Why should we feel bad because we score lower on a test that is looking for a particular set of skills when there are other skills of value which we possess? I'm not asking this question to you directly of course. But that's why I don't agree with any idea of "superior race". One race cannot be superior to another if it is not so on every medium of expertise. You can't be really good at writing but really shitty at empathy and deem yourself superior. Sure people are better at some things than others but that's fine. Liberals like to deny this and make the situation worse for black people because it starts giving everyone a warped sense of reality. Me? I believe in stating the plain facts of life without attaching prejudice to them. If people would just put the facts on the table without saying "NIGGER KIKE CRACKER" then we'd have a lot easier time accepting them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 08:17:05 2018 No.10797469 >>10797417 I think it's time we all start looking at each other as individuals. Yes my race is on average dumber. That doesn't bother or affect me. What bothers me is the suppression of truth. If someone wants to study racial differences, let them.

Anonymous Mon Mar 5 08:23:20 2018 No.10797480

>>10797469

I agree. White liberals are making it harder for black people to succeed by lying to us about the truth. Black people aren't gonna kill themselves if we find out that we score a bit lower in one department of assets. But white liberals have a history of ASSUMING what black people want and need without communicating. Black people know that they are very beautiful and do not need to define their worth in relation to capitalistic systems. Study racial differences all you want, it's a damn interesting topic! The issue comes in when we try to insult each other for the differences we have. Rather than trying to work harmoniously with one another to produce a greater future. I'm a man of God, and I have it hard to believe that God created everything in nature to work in harmony BUT humans. It's certainly true that capitalism is against harmony but capitalism is not objective reality. White liberals that think black people are a lot less callous and self-loving than we are so they think they need to infantilize us for us to do well. But this is not true! We have beautiful aspects of our culture and we know it. It doesn't matter if someone else disagrees because they're not us. I stay, on with racial realism, do away with racial prejudice and bitter feelings towards one another. Do away with "inferiority and superiority" because these concepts never address the wholeness of man. Everyone needs to accept reality and work towards a better future.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 09:31:57 2018 No.10797674 >>10790361 I only opened this thread to get that reaction image of Misato

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 11:03:19 2018 No.10797955 >>10790514 Except, you know, the fact scientists don't use race anymore and said its an outdated scientifically useless concept.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 11:04:41 2018 No.10797959 >>10797480 Fuck off moron with your "le liberals are le real racist" wank. Why don't you go to /pol/ and see what the average rightard thinks of you.

Anonymous Mon Mar 5 11:17:16 2018 No.10798011

>>10797959

What are you talking about? You think acknowledging that liberals are racist means I want to side with pol? They're both racist and it's shit. Why respond with an assumption about me than to what my post was actually talking about? What's with people on lit having a hard time focusing on an argument without referencing something irrelevant?

Anonymous Mon Mar 5 11:19:44 2018 No.10798025

>>10798011

Liberals aren't racist, its alt-right propaganda because they want to equate their opinions with the left's and thus make fascism and *actual* racism more acceptable. Intersectionality isn't racist, its based on equality but examines how different groups face different challenges.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 11:21:13 2018 No.10798031 >>10798025 "Liberals", what the fuck am I saying. Leftists.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 11:41:27 2018 No.10798114 >>10796383 Is this satire?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 11:42:50 2018 No.10798118 >vast majority of racists are uneducated white trash woah what a surprise

Anonymous Mon Mar 5 11:42:52 2018 No.10798119

>>10798025

Of course intersectionality isn't racist. I'm saying plainly giving people factual information is fine. Liberals or leftists whatever we want to call them, have this idea that if you tell black people the truth about anything they'll be too weak to live on. Liberals have a history of such misinterpretation of black people's wants in America. Intergration is just one of them. Whites thought that black people wanted to be amongst whites and that was the harm segregation did to us. When in fact, black people just wanted the resources denied to us by segregation rather than the social prospects. Liberals have been shown to be in favor of depriving lower income black families the option of having school choice, saying they're too dumb to choose for themselves and that the government must do it. If you don't think the left has a grand history of infantilizing the black community purely because the alt right uses this as a means to cover their ass you're limiting yourself. Both sides have fucked black people over in some way or another. And yeah we've fucked over ourselves a lot too but lets be totally candid here, please. I totally understand where you're coming from because I agree with you on how the alt right uses it but we can't just ignore the validity of something because it's a tool of someone we don't like.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 11:44:37 2018 No.10798124 >>10790361 >I read Nietzsche

Anonymous Mon Mar 5 11:56:22 2018 No.10798179

>>10792338
>t. hasn't interacted with anyone outside their race
Racism in America is something you have to experience to understand. No one here except rich whites and Jews is actually against racism. Everyone else has been forced to interact with people outside their race for most of their life, and most of those people are quite racist.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 11:57:43 2018 No.10798186 >>10798114 No. Do you have something to say against it or?

Anonymous Mon Mar 5 11:57:48 2018 No.10798187

>>10790541
If South Africa, and previously Rhodesia, aren't exemplary enough to demonstrate to you why a state ought to be composed of only one nation and how the nation that drives the state determines it's destiny, then I'm not sure what's left to say.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 12:00:04 2018 No.10798195 >>10798179 What are you talking about? I'm black, I've experienced mild racism irl and plenty of it online. All I'm saying is that it's fine to acknowledge that people are different and have particular traits just don't be a dick about it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 12:02:34 2018 No.10798207 >>10797955 So if English teachers ceases to teach Joseph Conrad in the class room, this makes Heart of Darkness and his other works outdated and worthless? It's the substance itself and not the use of it that holds the truth value.

Anonymous Mon Mar 5 12:02:44 2018 No.10798210

>>10798187

I agree with that completely, I'm a nationalist. Of course whites want an ethnostate, blacks want one too, who doesn't? It's tribalism, of course you'll wanna be with people you think you can trust more. But we can't all have that now can we?

(just because I agree that ethnostates are practical doesn't mean that I agree that america should be whiteland, just being clear, our circumstances really can't allow for any sort of ethnostate here)

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 12:29:22 2018 No.10798311 >muhh race isnt realll whahhaahh >now accept all these africans

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 12:36:08 2018 No.10798337 Where can I find a literature forum or board that is not full of American manchildren?

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 12:37:53 2018 No.10798348 File: 59 KB, 457x500, 1519797036569.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >I'm a emotionally broken manchild who defends other races online

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 15:07:58 2018 No.10799032 >>10796857 There are many different animal species with much less genetic variation than humans which contain within them several recognized subspecies

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 15:25:28 2018 No.10799094 ITT snarky greentext retorts Just like every thread. Wew lad

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 15:26:03 2018 No.10799097 >>10790361 >I read Dostoyevsky but I hate G_d.

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 15:30:03 2018 No.10799111 >>10798348 Haha great post

Anonymous Mon Mar 5 15:39:13 2018 No.10799149

>>10796862
yes but its the rate of variation that makes a species distinct or compatible, human rates of variation are different and do not show the same pattern of differentiation as beat species do or any other mammal, due to migratory patterns and recent common ancestry
>>10799032
i would really love to see: a scientific study from 2013 onward demonstrating this, and another which is demonstrates the existence of human subspecies. if you could cite at least 3 papers for each claim i would be willing to talk about it. all need to be from top journals from the last 5 years though or at least the last 15 (but 5 is preferable for obvious reasons). No blogs please even if its HBD nerds i want peer reviewed research otherwise its not real to me

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 15:40:28 2018 No.10799155 >>10799149 what if research like this would not be allowed past any peer review because of the enormous, career-ending penalties associated with being a racist?

Anonymous Mon Mar 5 15:43:16 2018 No.10799164

>>10799155
i wouldn’t believe that this was the case at all, since biologists are naturally curious people. i don’t believe there is a vast conspiracy to cover up race and if there was people would still do the research and obscure it. but haplogroups and genetic clustering doesn’t show what you want it to, so this has never happened. id need you to do your due diligence and show me you’re not a political agent, and basically give me research from the last 5-15 years that says you aren’t lying. if you can’t i will assume you’re a liar

Anonymous Mon Mar 5 15:47:48 2018 No.10799196

>>10799164
>i don’t believe there is a vast conspiracy to cover up race
I don't think it can be called a conspiracy if it is completely out in the open.

Entire institutions express a commitment to ending racism in their mission statements.

You haven't once mentioned an objective metric for defining groups as races rather than just groups, and I doubt there is one at all, but rather this is obviously politically motivated.

Anonymous Mon Mar 5 16:43:22 2018 No.10799438

>>10799149
On average 85% percent of human genetic distance is between individuals and 15% is between distinct populations, that equates to an FST value of 0.15 (the closer to 1, the greater the claim can be made for the existence of subspecies).

By comparison:

North American coyotes have an FST value 0.107 with 19 recognized subspecies

>http://www.tau.ac.il/~geffene/PDFs/15-Mol_Biol_Evol_1994.pdf

The Canadian Lynx has an FST value of 0.33 with 3 recognized subspecies

>http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v415/n6871/full/415520a.html

The Humpback Whale has an FST value of 0.12 with three recognized subspecies

>http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/281/1786/20133222

There's more examples but I'm lazy, ask if you want them

>>	Anonymous Mon Mar 5 23:48:53 2018 No.10801212 >>10791100 Communism is a stateless and classless society. How do you morons reach the conclusions you do? Read Marx.

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 03:57:21 2018 No.10801811 >>10794707 >unfounded racism you've never Gobineau'd have you?

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 03:58:28 2018 No.10801812 >>10801212 >stateless wew lad >classless the removal of distinctions is the destruction of Quality

>>	Anonymous Tue Mar 6 04:02:53 2018 No.10801820 >>10790613 Logical and Moral truth is found by following each path as far as one can. We need both equally in order to reach our full potential as human beings. The heart and the head go together like yin and yang.

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