/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.10758654]

>walk into my dad's office
>stand at full height and speak at a confident but assertive volume
>"dad, I've decided on my career path"
>"well it's about time, son. Your mother and I were getting very worried about your future; at 23 you're far too old to be living at home anymore. What did you choose? Medicine? Law? Engineering? Maybe something with computers?"
>look him dead in the eye
>"I want to be a writer"
>total silence
>his eyes glaze over for a moment and he stares out the window
>after about a minute he gets up from his office chair
>I stand about five inches taller than him but when he approaches me I feel like a little boy again
>dad: "so how are you going to make money?"
>"well at this point I'm just working on becoming competent at my craft, not so much financial success. I'll probably publish stories in small press magazines until I'm good enough to write a novel, but it'll be years, maybe decades, before I'll get that far, and even then financial success is far from assured--"
>he slaps me as hard as he can across the face
>I try to speak but he slaps me again
>he hasn't slapped me since I was a teenager
>dad: "let me know when you decide on a career. You're running out of time."
>I run out of his office and down to my basement room, tears streaming down my face
>fire up the laptop and open Chrome
>into the URL bar I begin to type: "boards.4chan.org/lit/..."

[Anonymous No.10758662]

>>10758654
doesn't it just auto-fill after you type the 'l'?

[Anonymous No.10758689]

>Forgetting the "https://"

[Anonymous No.10758695]

>>10758654
The tall bar of light is moving along the wall. It dims to nothing before it reaches me.

[Anonymous No.10758703]

Find a job a, full time
Save (a lot)
Leave your parents house
Find a flat (studio or roomates)
Do whatever the fuck you want
???
Profit

[Anonymous No.10758712]

>>10758689
brother, look at your address bar right now

[Anonymous No.10758715]

>>10758654
>he actually types out the full address
Never gonna make it

[Anonymous No.10758725]

>>10758712

[Anonymous No.10758727]

>>10758654
Your prose is amazing. Pretend you're a chick and get this published in Babe ASAP

[Anonymous No.10758730]

>>10758662
>>10758715
My browser is set so it doesn't save my history

[Anonymous No.10758740]

>>10758730
ah a fellow hacker I see

[Anonymous No.10758742]

>>10758654
It's funny because I know someone who did this. Meanwhile I followed Dad's advice, studied engineering, and already got a great career lined up.
Writing is like music. Great hobby, horrible profession.

[Anonymous No.10758787]

>>10758703
unironically this

[Anonymous No.10758794]

>>10758742
wow sweet bro make the machines kill the planet hahaha nice based technofascism

[Anonymous No.10758795]

>>10758654
i'm a writer and i make more money than my dad ever did

[Anonymous No.10758806]

>>10758654
T S Eliot worked at Lloyd’s bank while writing, Larkin was a librarian, why don’t you do something similar.

Doing nothing is not inspiring.

[Anonymous No.10758816]

>>10758742
Yes, but you are in all likelihood a mediocre writer and probably always will be. You don't value writing and art, value love material comfort and financial security

[Anonymous No.10758831]

>>10758725
>>10758689
It's still irrelevant.
"4chan.org/lit/"
gets you there, you learn this the first year of internet use http and www. are completely pointless

[Anonymous No.10758835]

>>10758654
HA

[Anonymous No.10758836]

Dumbass, no one ever wrote anything of merit because they wanted to write, they wrote because they had something they wanted to write. Dostoevsky didn't want to be an author, he wanted to write the story of Raskolnikov. Milton didn't write because he wanted to write, he wrote because he wanted to write Paradise Lost. Dickens wrote because he wanted to write and he only ever made middlebrow, and he was one in a million. You're not one in a million and you'll never be middlebrow, not unless you actually have a thing you desire to put in writing before you have the desire to put things in writing. You're no David Foster Wallace, you're John Green, except John Green is more talented than you because he can take his dead-end, masturbatory ambition and actually make a living off of it while all you can do is tell yourself that at least you're better than John Green. Go get a real fucking job you fucking hippie shitstain, and don't come back until you have a work of Art ready to be put into writing.

[Anonymous No.10758840]

Realistically, working full-time in a job that does not involve developing your literary talents (e.g. teaching, editing, translating) will kill your drive and leave you miserable and exhausted.

There's a reason people quit their jobs to write or to attend MFA courses. There's a reason Van Gogh is as popular as he is, and part of it has to do with the fact that he took poverty, obscurity and Outsiderdom on the chin and focused almost all his energy on painting and self-exploration.

Sure, it's nice to have a reliable income. It's nice to be able to talk to some chick and tell her you're a mature, career-orientated man who can afford to pump her full of kids. It's nice to be able to afford holidays, gadgets, even a home!

But again, ALMOST EVERY great writer wrote his or her major work(s) while not being tied down by full-time job. McCarthy, Harper Lee, Tolstoy, Dusty, Rowling...I mean the list truly does go on. And this is across literature, painting, music, anything really.

The reason: there must be a profound negative in your life to balance out the profound positive of a great piece of art. Being a contented little office drone normie may give you material to write, but it won't give you the time, energy, focus or the depressive, lonely, terrifying hole from which you will struggle with all your mental energy to escape by producing something of value.

Look at Nietzsche, who is adored here in part for his "man up brah" philosophy. He was physically weak, despised socializing for the most part, extremely nervous and sensitive and absolutely LOATHED full-time work and even those who sacrificed their freedom for it rather than pursuing whatever ambition they had.

[Anonymous No.10758851]

>>10758806
>why don't you do something similar, like attend the oldest and most exclusive and prestigious university on the planet and then become a well-connected socialite/academic/man of letters who stumbles into comfortable and well-compensating vocational positions wherein you can easily ignore your duties and work on your genius poems and essays if you so choose

[Anonymous No.10758861]

>All these dadposters
Go make another thread about what books to buy your kids you overgrown illiterate faggots
I believe in you, OP

[Anonymous No.10758899]

>>10758806
Both stupid examples, and I've studied both of their lives in detail. Eliot had contacts within the publishing industry, and wrote poetry (although Wasteland's great). He worked at Lloyd's for around 7 years, publishing very little.

Larkin, again a poet, published only three books of poetry while employed, about a decade apart, and had published three books within the space of two years while unemployed (Jill, A Girl..., North Ship). He understood perfectly well that his work only allowed him to write slowly, as is evident in Toads etc, and his letters. He could not have written a novel under those circumstances, as he made clear to Kingsley Amis in their correspondence (Kingsley himself bouncing from fellowship to fellowship while lecturing part-time occasionally). He was in fact hoping to be a novelist until the age of 30, but gave up when he realized that his growing responsibilities meant that he could never focus on something for a prolonged period of time.

"Doing nothing..." is such a stupid way of describing an avoidance of employment. Pessoa worked part-time for his entire life, Pamuk spent his 20s in his mother's spare room writing, McCarthy preferred to live in a shack rather than work, and Carver NEETed for a long time too. Hesse lived with his brother rent-free for years, Suskin's 20s were funded by his parents, Knausgaard spent his 20s in and out of state-funded university and his late 20s in cabins and apartments writing his prize-winning debut novel. JD Salinger would live in the country homes of acquaintances while finishing Catcher. Steinbeck's father let his son live rent-free in his summer home for years while writing Cup of Gold. Kafka hated his job to the point of despair even though he only worked part-time hours for the most part. Houellebecq was a NEET from 21 to 27. Bukowski only started writing longer fiction when he was rescued from wageslavery at 48 / 49. I mean, these are just authors that come to mind.

It was hardly "nothing" they were doing in their time outside of the office, and the fact you describe it as such forces me to *unsheathes katana* *slices your head off!?!?* ....show you the error of your ways.

Honestly though, you're a piece of shit for shaming genuinely ambitious people. You're part of the reason this world's in the shitter.

[Anonymous No.10758901]

>>10758836
Dickens wrote "middlebrow" stories that more complex than Dostoevsky's at literally every level--psychological, narrative, emotional, social, aesthetic, even religious. If you knew anything about Dostoevsky and weren't a soulless bugman drone trying to justify he mediocre life choices, you would know that Dickens was not only one of the his most major and obvious influences, but he was also an influence that Dostoevsky was very proud to admit to, as he repeatedly did on multiple occasions both in print and in conversation.

[Anonymous No.10758913]

>>10758851
To be fair, in Larkin's case (and I think even Elliot's) he attended a state grammar school, got into Oxford on a scholarship and felt he would have earned a 2:2 if it wasn't wartime with so little relative focus on academics. He then worked his way up from some obscure local library to the University of Hull, which is by no means a haven for the well-to-do.

[Anonymous No.10758923]

Kierke-chan looks down on the wagecuck.

[Anonymous No.10758949]

>>10758901
I am glad someone has finally said it. Dickens use of language is sublime; reading D. in translation in stead of Dickens is a waste of time.

[Anonymous No.10758952]

>>10758654
To be honest you deserved that slap. Writing is more of a side thing, Kafka worked in an office while writing his stories and novels. You need to find a job you enjoy while also keep writing your stuff.
Try being a journalists if you want to hone your craft on the job

[Anonymous No.10758953]

>>10758899
>You're part of the reason this world's in the shitter.
No, you are. You need to leech other people's productivity in order to chase a ridiculously remote ambition. Nobody is your slave, cunt, and it speaks volumes that you want them to just be okay with it if you happen to want them to be in servitude to you.

[Anonymous No.10758954]

>>10758730
Why not just use chrome and type 4chan lit and then click on first result?

[Anonymous No.10758962]

lmao cuck

>tfw 22 and published wit a dank national award
>i broke my dad's jaw with a soup can ages ago
>haven't seen that motherfucker in about 6 years
>i have the aura and glare of a psycho killer school shooter so no one questions me

just suck a cock to survive. or get some credit card deetz from russian onion sites.

[Anonymous No.10758969]

>>10758962
Wow aren't you a cool guy?

[Anonymous No.10758975]

>>10758730
Why not make a bookmark? Hello?
Also you have to get a job other than writing to support yourself. Very rarely do writers live solely off their writing. Get a job you hippie.

[Anonymous No.10758983]

>>10758952
STOP FUCKING MENTIONING KAFKA TO PROP UP YOUR BULLSHIT MACHO IDEOLOGY

He fucking worked for 4-5 hours a day, was always 15-30 minutes late (his co-workers claimed) and usually left early despite taking a long lunch. Even then we find in his diary (desu) that he was often embarrassed by the fact he left resignation letters on his boss's desk then came to work the next morning apologising and asking to withdraw his resignation.

>>10758953
I'm not the OP, normalfag. And your image of a world in which the only leeches or society-wreckers are the genuinely ambitious NEETs taking time off to write while living with their families is cute, but stupid.

[Anonymous No.10758992]

>>10758742
it's because you're fucking mediocre at both, Jon.
You're a little rat-faced dweeb who only does as he's told, but'll take any moment to flaunt what you've earned, however tepid and ordinary. All style, no substance. A machine.

You sicken me.

[Anonymous No.10758998]

>>10758983
Well it doesn't matter, you need to work to put food on the table. At least you're parents are letting you stay at home for so long. I'm 18 and once I finish college my ass is out of the house. I want to be a NEET writer too but life doesn't work that way

[Anonymous No.10759009]

>>10758953
It follows from the very recent convention of the literary types coming from the bourgeois (read families who make 800k+/year actual not american middle)class. The values of fiction are bourgeois values. The tastemakers know nothing of toil. To pretend you are above your station by malingering does not make you a bourgeois, it makes you a loser. Like others have said, if you are not well to do, be satisfied with less, get on with a career and by the time you don't have to work as hard (40-50 y.o.) you just might have lived enough to have something decent to write about--NOONE is interested in your sycophantic rehashing of a 19th century novel.

[Anonymous No.10759032]

>>10759009
>800k+/year
>bourgeois
This isn't 1864
bourgeois = majority of the working class

[Anonymous No.10759034]

>>10759009
Is this a parody of the dumb, normie, jock mindset?

Embarrassing, truly.

>>10758998
Again, I'm not the OP. And life does indeed work out that way, for certain writers, at certain times. Lovecraft was a dependent NEET, for example. And you're 18, I'm sorry but you don't know shit and your faddish ideologies aren't worth much.

[Anonymous No.10759041]

>>10758836
>Dostoevsky didn't want to be an author, he wanted to write the story of Raskolnikov.

but that's literally untrue

[Anonymous No.10759050]

>>10759041
This. He could have found other ways to make money (as an engineer etc) and pay his later debts, but writing was his passion. Look at his joy after Poor Folk was published to see how much he wanted it.

[Anonymous No.10759056]

>>10759034
Are you a NEET not OP?
You don't have to be career less to write, but the op should count his blessings, he'll just hearing that his dad has an office in his house tell us that op is in a very well off family. They probably go to Disneyland ever summer

[Anonymous No.10759062]

>>10758654
>walk into my mom's office
>stand at full height and speak at a confident but assertive volume
>"mom, I've decided on my career path"
>"well it's about time, son. You know I, as a single mother all alone, was getting very worried about your future; at 23 you're far too old to be living as a virgin anymore. What did you choose? Medicine? Law? Engineering? Maybe something which women will find attractive?"
>look her dead in the eye
>"I want to be a writer"
>total silence
>her eyes glaze over for a moment and she stares out the window
>after about a minute she gets up from her office chair, the cushion still holding the imprint of her supple ass which my eyes cannot help but seize upon
>I stand about five inches taller than her but when she approaches me I feel like a little boy again
>mom: "so how are you going to get laid?"
>"w-well at this point i-i'm JUST working on becoming competent at my c-craft, not so much sexual success. I-I'll probably publish stories in small press magazines until I'm good enough to write a novel, but it'll be years, maybe decades, before I'll get that far, and even then sexual success is far from assured--"
>she undoes my belt and slips a hand down my pants
>I try try speak but she grips my penis tighter
>she hasn't held my penis since I was a teenager
>mom: "let me know when you decide on not being a virgin. You're running out of time."
>I run out of her office and down to my basement room, cock erect, tears streaming down my face
>fire up the laptop and open Firefox
>into the URL bar I begin to type: "boards.4chan.org/biz/..."

[Anonymous No.10759065]

>>10758794
>>10758816
>>10758992

holy shit, incel fucking COPE activated!!!!

[Anonymous No.10759069]

>>10759056
I'm a wagecuck, actually. And OP is obviously a normie LARPing to make the big boy wagearners feel proud of their lack of investment in writing great fiction.

[Anonymous No.10759078]

>tfw datacuck
>tfw living in bumfuck nowhere Ohio
>tfw not gonna make it

[Anonymous No.10759083]

>>10759065

[Anonymous No.10759085]

>>10759062
I love it

[Anonymous No.10759087]

>>10758969
cooler than u

[Anonymous No.10759092]

>>10759065
>t. mommy's little cuck

[Anonymous No.10759093]

>>10758654

Creative ability basically ends at 25. If you aren't a relative success in your early 20s (not necessarily a titanic figure in industry but you need some level of success) it's time to give up.

[Anonymous No.10759098]

>being poor

feel sorry for you wagies tbqh

[Anonymous No.10759103]

>>10758953
by your definition, anybody in a profession other than strict manual labor would be leeching off of others productivity. where did you glean "slave" or the idea that the person you responded to wants someone to be in servitude to them?

[Anonymous No.10759111]

>>10759093
oh there's the worst post of the day
there it is

[Anonymous No.10759112]

>>10759065
enjoy the unfulfilling life in a city only growing in population with a third world workforce that's becoming more and more educated online, that'll work for pennies and will live together in cramped apartments with other panjeets who'll put together your factory crap.

who knows? maybe you'll find a boring girl friend who you'll pose with on "hikes" for likes on instram--the only sorry excuse for excitement...

[Anonymous No.10759123]

>>10759093
This isn't true of course (I suspect you're spam-chan). But I think there is something true about the idea that your worldview and "style" at 25 can't really be significantly altered. Even reading Bukowski's stuff at 24 is like reading his stuff at 54 even though he didn't write for a decade or so. Many such cases. I'm actually worried by the idea that each person has an "essence" they can't do much about, and that a minority of people's essence is simply so distinct and interesting as to be fated for genius. If true I'm fucked because my essence is fucked.

[Anonymous No.10759132]

>>10758983
>He fucking worked for 4-5 hours a day, was always 15-30 minutes late (his co-workers claimed) and usually left early despite taking a long lunch. Even then we find in his diary (desu) that he was often embarrassed by the fact he left resignation letters on his boss's desk then came to work the next morning apologising and asking to withdraw his resignation.

He worked 6 hours, from 8 to 2. He also studied law and later got his doctorate in it when he already worked for Assicurazioni Generali, plus he helped run his father's asbestos factor. He was a busy man

[Anonymous No.10759137]

>>10759062

[Anonymous No.10759150]

>>10759032
No that simply is not true.

[Anonymous No.10759152]

>>10759112
We're all in this together desu, the engineers and the NEETs.

[Anonymous No.10759155]

>>10759111

Rowling started Harry Potter at 24. Mozart wrote his first song at 5.

Our economy is changing, as our population grows creative fields are more and more dominated by a smaller and smaller proportion of the population who themselves become richer and richer and more influential and more influential.

If you haven't done anything of note by 25 or started anything great give up. You're not gonna make it. Get a normie job.

[Anonymous No.10759157]

>All these cucks going on about "muh living" "muh retirement" " "muh career"
>just bitter resentment over failure and lack of opportunity all over the place
>Hurrr everyone has to be like me
>everyone has to fall in line

Jesus Christ... you people are actually infected with down syndrome.
Most, if not all, great writers wrote during extended periods of being away from work or school. No one has the time to pursue a writing passion and work at the same time. Work and creativity are not conducive with each other. Kafka slagged off at his clerk job so much. He'd come in late, he'd leave early. He mostly hated going.
Joyce couch surfed, lived in poverty most of his life.
Tolstoy was a NEET.
Pynchon had very little money while he was writing V and GR, constantly going back and forth between Mexico and California.
DFW lived in a halfway house.

Think real hard as to why Artist Grants and patronage are a thing, you idiots.

[Anonymous No.10759161]

>>10759132
He was still often late, and usually left early. True he did have to work later some days to meet clients, and he also gave talks at the Yiddish centre etc. But the asbestos thing lasted less than a year and it was in part an attempt to get rich quick so he could NEET with the money he hoped the factor would make him and his brother-in-law. He only started writing The Castle and finishing off his other longer works when he was allowed to be a TUBERCULAR NEET by his employer. This is one of the reasons that I have long advocated for the reintroduction of Tuberculosis into Western society as a means of allowing frail, sensitive, workshy aspiring writers to sign something of a devil's bargain by consciously infecting themselves with the disease in return for being allowed not to work.

[Anonymous No.10759166]

>>10759157
>joyce
>kafka
>pynchon
>dfw

Do you fucks seriously only read ~10 writers? I get nauseous just hearing their names bandied like so much pocket change. None of them were "great".

[Anonymous No.10759172]

>>10759155
EPIC bait

[Anonymous No.10759173]

>>10759152
Not really. The engineers will always have the smug awareness of their own socially-validated (tm) superiority to fall back on, while the NEET struggles in isolation to create his masterpiece.

>>10759155
WRONG. Rowling started Harry Potter at 25 and had three chapters ready and a lot of notes written at 27 / 28 after two years of VERY part-time work in Portugal (the summers offered little teaching work). She was then a NEET for a year while writing Harry Potter One in a frenzied state before her career as a full-time wagecuck began.

[Anonymous No.10759174]

>>10759161
I have literally dreamed of this before

>>10759166
>kafka and joyce weren't great
bugs, easy on the contrarianism

[Anonymous No.10759184]

>>10759157
will you stop using NEET in contexts outside of the 21st century ok thanks

[Anonymous No.10759187]

>>10759155
>names only two “savants”
>looking to HP as a symbol of literary success
What about you, what’s your masterpiece? Or did you just pussy out.

[Anonymous No.10759188]

>>10759157
Even in the 1990s the Slacker lifestyle was acceptable for most artists. Today I can't help but get the impression that anybody who isn't working 48 hours a week is treated like a huge piece of shit manchild. And I say that as a depressed wagecuck who wants MORE FUCKING FREE TIME.

[Anonymous No.10759192]

>>10759174
I honestly think we on /lit/ should bring the Pro-Tuberculosis movement into the mainstream. There are plenty of examples of writers with TB quitting their shitty jobs and writing great works of fiction. It's very easy to become infected, and death is usually slow in coming. It really is the ideal literary disease. I've tried catching it several times myself but only managed to catch HIV so far. Such is life I suppose.

[Anonymous No.10759194]

>Shakespeare: theater producer/owner etc.
>Blake: Printmaker
>Milton: Civil Servant
>Cervantes: Soldier
And so on. All of the great ones were ambitious in their carreers, their lives, everything. Only memecore soyboys authors of the last century and a half have been slugs. And you wonder why literature is being taken over by women.

[Anonymous No.10759195]

>>10759166
Oh look now the little idiot is tackling literal geniuses to make himself feel better.
Why is everyone on this board the exact same?

Jesus Christ, have some charm... meet a girl who will cover your costs while you write, meet people, couch surf, use your fucking brain. Break the scary law. Goddamn.
How do you any of you expect anyone to want to read anything you write, when you're all such monstrous pussies?

[Anonymous No.10759207]

>>10759188
people treat me with respect. I'm also a huge asshole who will debase you casually. I mostly read, write, jerk it, and meme.

[Anonymous No.10759208]

>>10759184
be quiet, shitstain.

[Anonymous No.10759213]

>>10759194
You forgot Sasha Grey: Pornstar

[Anonymous No.10759220]

>>10759194
Not true you dumb faggot. Also Blake barely worked. It was far easier in those days to work freelance hours and do fuck all the rest of the time if you could read and write. You think Shakespeaer worked from 8:30 to 6 like the average modern man?

[Anonymous No.10759225]

>>10759188

The value of low skilled labour has gone down massively in just the last 20 years because of mass immigration and globalization. That's why wages of stagnated while costs of living go up. If you want more free time then use that big brain of yours to create value and wealth without having to work as much. Yes it's difficult and will take spouts of buckling down and pulling yourself up but it's worth it.

You don't get to just live an easy life goofing off , and not giving a fuck while working a modest job like the boomers did. That's not the world we live in.

Work hard or live the pleb life. Your choice.

[Anonymous No.10759229]

>falling for the career meme

Hope none of you actually do this

[Anonymous No.10759235]

>>10759194
Off the top of my head, Balzac didn't want to follow his dad into law which caused huge dispute. He became a writer at 20.

[Anonymous No.10759238]

>>10759188
It was actually possible in the 90s though. People don't understand that the 90s economy was like another world, it couldn't happen today. 90s Austin was like postwar Paris

[Anonymous No.10759242]

>>10759194
>implying Shakespeare even existed and wasn't a Rosicrucian council of writers whose aim was to influence all of English literature by unleashing a divine, constructed Genius

how can one be this pleb?

[Anonymous No.10759244]

>>10759220
If you had ever worked in theater you would know Shakepeare probably worked far more than 8 hours a day in season on top of writing fucking masterpieces.
>>10759195
Seriously who wants to hear what a fucking overeducated suburbanite slacker has to say for the 1000th time. Your insistence on lifestylism is what is killing literature. You are basically aspiring to be Lena Dunham.

[Anonymous No.10759246]

>>10759225
I agree, and believe me I despise niggers, muslims and those who let them flood into crowded, civilized countries.

As for my brain, I am a wagecuck and use enough of my brain to secure an independent lifestyle (a miserable one, however), but if I used any more of it to make more money I would lost the little focus and energy I have left over after a day of being overwhelmed by normalfaggotry.

Your options are dumb. You're dumb.

[Anonymous No.10759260]

>>10759225
>Work hard or live the pleb life. Your choice.

Well yeah... that's if you have low-tier skills.

t. published writer, no college, used my writing skills and lied about coding knowledge to land a cushy Passport office job in Leafland (psst, Affirmative Action hire!)

[Anonymous No.10759274]

>>10759260

Wow you lied and got a push up from AA and got a decent job. Great. That totally applies to young white men with dignity who are struggling to make it in a cruel and hostile world.

PS: fuck you

[Anonymous No.10759279]

>>10759062
>into the URL bar I begin to type: "boards.4chan.org/biz/..."

[Anonymous No.10759283]

>>10759244
> overeducated suburbanite slacker

I come from poverty. Stop projecting your sheltered life, asshole.
Nothing is "killing" literature other than pure capital.
Oh look, anon can pick low-hanging fruit and use that as a flag for his intellectually lazy opinion!!

You're just jealous because I have more passion than you. I'll do what needs to be done to get what I want out.

[Anonymous No.10759295]

>>10759274
>t. dumb mutt who never found out everyone else lies on their resume

It must be real nice to be dumb. Must make the world seem less scary, crafting some strange dichotomy fueled by 4chan to blame your lackluster talents on.

A real success-driven attitude!

[Anonymous No.10759297]

>>10759083
>>10759092
>>10759112
>>10759173

>all this fucking ANGER over the fact that someone has a career AND writes
do you people ever look in the mirror and say "i am the problem" because you should. i'm not even the "engineer" you guys are replying to, lol

[Anonymous No.10759299]

>>10759235
Probably because he gave him the name Balzac I mean, hellloooo? The kid probably got bullied every day. What was his surname, Pubeface? What kind of father names his kid Balzac? (I'm acting retarded for your amusement)

>>10759238
I agree, though it wasn't easy everywhere. And yes Austin is what I was referring to in part. Richard Linklater paid next to no rent for a huge traditional home throughout his twenties while goofing around and making his early movies. Bill Hicks lived comfortably as a bum with no money in Houston. It is probably still possible today in certain places, but I don't know man it's like the internet works as a panopticon of sorts whereby people self-impose a more superficially successful lifestyle on themselves (handsome rich creative with his Life In Order) not to slide into the obscurity suffered by those without an e-persona. Maybe that's a bit too extreme but I really am growing more doubtful of the ultimate influence of the internet on culture, art etc in general. Maybe it's because I'm a dumbass who doesn't profit from using the internet besides talking to cutie-pies like yourself (Don't deny it. Go look in the mirror and tell yourself you're ugly. Can't do it right? Well, there you go)

>>10759244
You are absolutely beyond redemption if you think Shakespeare WORKED in a selfless, routine, consistent manner for more than eight hours AND ALSO managed to produce great works of art. Maybe he did work that hard in short bursts, but I guarantee (not to mention hope there's another anon lurking who has read the relevant biog) that he in fact did not. In fact, here, I'll bet five bucks *roots around in pocket* *pulls out a condom on accident and slams it on the table* w-woops, I mean, well *bats eyelashes* *blushes* I mean, we could- y-you know?

[Anonymous No.10759307]

>>10758816
>implying higher art doesn’t come from the bourgeois
step up bucko

[Anonymous No.10759309]

>>10759295
>because I am shameless and hateful mystery meat who is comfortable committing evil, so is everybody else

[Anonymous No.10759317]

>>10759283
>i come from poverty
Anon do you realize that 80% of the worlds population lives on less than $10 dollars a day? Rethink your privilege. Anyway I grew up first world poor too i know what shame it brings and what grandiose designs to exact revenge; you say i am dispassionate but i have probably ruined myself for passion more than most people; the reason i pointed out those men was to illustrate that great thought is not in itself a vocation, THAT is a product of "capital" and the division of labor; nothing is stopping you from living your life to the fullest but you would sell out the god within you for 30 pieces of silver. This board is a fine waste of time, it beats going to the movies, it beats reading most of what is considered great anymore--but don't imagine that being the next New Yorker darling will bring you the consolation you burn for.

[Anonymous No.10759321]

>>10758654

[Anonymous No.10759323]

>>10759297
I'd respect him if he wasn't such a spineless cunt who bowed to his dad.
Engineering is the default option for lamerods who want "Security," plus the added cushion of being an "Engineer." Whoa vectors wow crazy!

All the hard work engineers do nowadays comes down to knowing how to use software. Buncha glorified lab technicians.

[Anonymous No.10759327]

>>10759299

[Anonymous No.10759334]

>>10759317
>Rethink your privilege.

You have no passion. You're just a dolt who wants glory. Your post reads like ironic garbage, you fucking charlatan.

[Anonymous No.10759337]

>>10758742
Imagine having one brief life to live and choosing (actually making the decision) to become a fucking engineer. When people ask you what your career is you have to actually spit out the word ‘engineer’ and have them nod in a really mindless way because there isn’t a single person on the planet that cares about engineering. You might even have to say some wacky garbage like “I know how bridges work!!” to maintain their swiftly dwindling interest, when you’d probably be doing them a bigger favour by just tattooing “WANKER” onto your ever-oily forehead.

[Anonymous No.10759338]

ITT: people who'll be preparing my fast food 5 to 10 years from now

Just LOL at being such an alienated hipster you cant see that the best possible outcome out of your ambition is to become a minor Rupi Kaur

[Anonymous No.10759343]

>>10759323

>bowed to his dad
i think his point was that he followed his dad's advice about making money. you autists get so triggered over reading shit you miss actual context. plus, you're still fucking coping. way to marginalize his responsibilites at work to make yourself feel better.

you are the problem. and you act like a woman. what's going on in your personal life that you are like this?

[Anonymous No.10759353]

>>10759343
>working for money

Please... this is the most cucked shit.
Go back to your Peterson worship, homo.

[Anonymous No.10759357]

>>10759338
You're just samefagging at this point.

Why all the dissonance? What you've been told your whole life getting you nowhere?

Enjoy the contractual work, idiot.

[Anonymous No.10759361]

>>10759353

can you make a small list of your personal accomplishments and where you're going in life? for my own curiosity. obviously this is the internet and you're going to lie and exaggerate but maybe some proof would be good. i'm just curious what drives a man to be malicious, even ironically, to a stranger who has accomplished more than you.

[Anonymous No.10759377]

>>10759343
The fact people are even DEFENDING wagecuckery on /lit/ shows why a NEET renaissance is both inevitable and highly desirable. The only engineer in two decades who wrote of anything of value WHILE WORKING AS AN ENGINEER (Stewart O'Nan doesn't count since he quit engineering to write as a NEET) is George Saunders, but even then he spent almost his entire 20s as a NEET either in writing school, at home in Texas or whatever, and also took EIGHT YEARS to produce a 120-page book of short stories, at least one of which I imagine was from his MFA days (his contact with magazines etc was certainly from those days). And Saunders barely made it. Working full-time all those years made him fucking miserable, as is evident in his stories about the horrors of the workplace. And this was at a time when the economy was ok, and when working as a low-grade officecuck like Saunders allowed a guy to own a home and raise two kids.

[Anonymous No.10759384]

>>10758654
Because it's not like you can write and do something else.

[Anonymous No.10759390]

>>10759377

>dude this guy did it like this and im a black/white thinker so there is NO WAY this guy writes ANYTHING that ANYONE will like if he has a full-time job

say it with me: C-O-P-E

[Anonymous No.10759391]

>>10759361
lol at you idiot

[Anonymous No.10759394]

>>10759361
How am I supposed to take a humble brag that in wording elevates himself above others who do not have a "Career lined up?" Even disregarding the autismal way he approached the guy's problem as "huh, well another human being had this happen to him... but now about me."
It's so easy to read through posts like that.
How is a normal person supposed to react to something like that? Maybe you sheltered farts think that's normal, since humble bragging and passive aggression seem to be a mainstay of the middle class and disappointed.

also i've been published 4 times and i'm younger than you probably

[Anonymous No.10759398]

>>10759384
Guys, guys, heehee, hoohoo, you know you can, now wait for it, hoohoo hee, you know you can both work, oh god let me finish, please don't make me hoohoo hahah, you can both work and write! hhahahah hoohoo heehee yeah I said it hoohahahaha

[Anonymous No.10759402]

>>10759337
you're literally just a teenager worried people (mainly chicks) might find your job too boring and not interesting enough
come back when you've grown a pair, kid

[Anonymous No.10759404]

>>10759394
and I'd take the being published and seen as a "real artist" over some wagecuck career any day.

social currency is worth more than money. you can thank zuckerberg for that.

[Anonymous No.10759409]

>>10759337
>ever-oily
Kek

[Anonymous No.10759411]

>>10759390
Statistics are statistics you fucking normie piece of shit. Most writers are NEET or as near to being one as they can get away with. Your faggot advice is anti-art.

[Anonymous No.10759420]

>>10759402
Nah, it really is just boring af and I can smell your own cope from here. How often do you feel that twinge of regret about your dull career path? Once a day? Twice? Just when you’re alone at night?

[Anonymous No.10759424]

>>10759398
>be you
>get up
>bones are sore
>addicted to caffeine
>need to wake up at 7am
>no sleep the night before really (thanks to blue light!)
>spend 6-7 hours doing mindnumbing tasks that tire you mentally
>go home after a commute
>expect to be alert enough to write a fucking novel that would even interest any agent
>say goodbye to any human connection

don't throw that bullshit "hobby" shit at me either.

[Anonymous No.10759429]

>>10759402
>relies on his career to impress ladies

lmao what? dude, you have the charm of a fucking dirty dishrag lmao

[Anonymous No.10759436]

>>10759424
But dad says engineers are cool!

[Anonymous No.10759437]

>>10759404
>>10759394
>>10759411
>>10759424

this is such fucking cope. i want to see a picture of your bodies, your face, your personal life, all of it. We won't ever get to see it because you'll end up looking like pic related.

[Anonymous No.10759439]

>>10759402
Jon... just stop. Go back to riding your little mountain bike and sending dick pics to high school girls.

[Anonymous No.10759442]

>>10759242
m'dude.

[Anonymous No.10759446]

>>10759437
christ... the projection

[Anonymous No.10759452]

>>10759420
No, you really seem to be a subhuman motivated solely by the prestige in a succesful writing career
too bad you'll always be afraid of actually calling yourself a writer since you've written nothing worth noticing

>>10759429
I don't, many people do though
they are the self-described "artists"

[Anonymous No.10759459]

>>10759437
If you say cope one more time in this thread...

[Anonymous No.10759467]

>>10759446

>the projection

weren't you just projecting in:>>10759404
>>10759394
>>10759377
>>10759323

so really, by saying i'm projecting, you're just at the penultimate stage of projection, because you can't cope with the fact that someone has a JOB and WRITES at the same time.

say it with me again dood: C-O-P-E
(i still have not gotten any information about your personal life, so i assume you are neglectful of your body, live at home, and unaccomplished). If not, you would have revealed some information to lend some credibility to your admittedly extreme opinion about the nature of work?

[Anonymous No.10759468]

>>10759452
I have literally zero writing ambitions, I am just morally obligated to let any and all engineers know how fucking boring their life choices are and have made them. That’s all, bud.

[Anonymous No.10759469]

>>10759439
see you at McD's

[Anonymous No.10759473]

>>10759452
I don't need to lie. My artistry has been proven many times.

Go out and fuck some tumblr slut or something... Jesus Christ, man... the 'tism and resentment coming off of you.

[Anonymous No.10759476]

>>10759469
>Either you become daddy’s little engineer or you work in fast food, there is not middle way
Okay, kid

[Anonymous No.10759484]

>>10759469
Why is your entire world just
>either university educated mediocre engineer job
or
>fast food

Why is your worldview so narrow?

[Anonymous No.10759485]

>>10759473
Stop posing you fag, he wasn’t replying to you

[Anonymous No.10759487]

>>10759468
that's because engineering has been divorced from the esoteric disciplines.

[Anonymous No.10759489]

>yeah, I'm on this gig for rent money. I'm really a writer tho

[Anonymous No.10759493]

>>10759469
Jon, please stop posting here.
I do hope you know you're the butt of many jokes at LU.

[Anonymous No.10759500]

>>10759424
You fucking dumb piece of shit I am on YOUR SIDE. I am anti-wagecuckery, despite being a wagecuck myself. People who refuse to work full-time to focus on their art, however good it is, are admirable in my eyes. Even if they fail to achieve what they set out to achieve and end up panicking about the future, I respect their courage to just fucking do it rather than sit around thinking about what could have been.

[Anonymous No.10759501]

>>10759467
go away, jon
everyone knows you like feet and you cheated on some girl with some fat girl with no eyebrows. she literally told everyone who would listen

[Anonymous No.10759505]

>>10759489
>yeah my dad’s real proud of me now, my career in engineering is really turning me into a grownup

[Anonymous No.10759508]

>>10759500
well make your shitposts clearer, nigga damn sorry

[Anonymous No.10759509]

>Still have no idea what to do for a career

Not sure what to do when nothing interests me enough to work in it.

[Anonymous No.10759514]

>>10759476
>>10759484
so what barely-above minimum wage profession will you be choosing once you step back into reality and realize "being a writer" is just a bourgeois wet dream?

[Anonymous No.10759518]

>>10759509
>>10759508
>>10759505
>>10759501
>>10759500
>>10759493
>>10759489
>>10759484
>>10759476
>>10759473

C O P E
O
P
E
(my artistry has been proven many times)
fat girl says: my health has been proven many times

[Anonymous No.10759521]

do you people really believe that people stick to one "career" path today? lol fuck no
People switch all the time now. There's no real steady work. No one really is at a company for 30 years anymore.

You're gonna be basically working as a freelance artist either way.

[Anonymous No.10759524]

>Engineering

[Anonymous No.10759531]

>>10759518
I have a feeling you were molested as a kid. Some sort of abuse. You're a twisted guy.

Please don't kill your brother or anything psycho

[Anonymous No.10759538]

>>10759093
It's weird how this was less true back when life expectancy was lower (yes I know a lot of that was infant mortality), not to mention the people who die in obscurity then become famous later.

[Anonymous No.10759546]

>>10759524
haha good post all the engineering students on /lit/ right now must be feeling so embarrassed and suicidal

[Anonymous No.10759551]

>>10759546
>must be feeling so embarrassed and suicidal
If they have any self-awareness they should have been feeling that anyway

[Anonymous No.10759555]

>hmmm well let's see i have no idea what i'm good at!
>hmmm well i was real good at mindlessly copying things like the teacher told me to!!!
>hmmm i'll become an engineer!
>yeah that way i can call myself one and normies will be impressed
>gee willickers

[Anonymous No.10759559]

>>10759546
to be fair, they probably do feel like that regardless of that guy's post

[Anonymous No.10759560]

>>10759398
Not sure why you're acting like this, OP clearly didn't realize it or else he wouldn't be bitching right now But keep doing, whatever this is with your writing.

[Anonymous No.10759565]

>>10759518
>using cope as a noun.

[Anonymous No.10759568]

I have considered becoming a write or a journalist but i went on and got into banking (which is an area i like a lot so didn't really gave up fulfillment). I've tried working on the side but i realized that if i had to write to survive, with deadlines, i would be miserable.
I don't get /lit/ all or nothing mentality or whyt it shits on getting a job to pay the bills and not starving while you pursue your high risk low reward """passion""". Doesn't even need to be a full time job if you manage to scrape by with part time.

[Anonymous No.10759576]

>>10759514
why are you projecting you own lack of talent onto everyone in this thread?

[Anonymous No.10759588]

>Haha, no this is just my day job. I mean sure it eats up nine or more hours of every weekday but what I'm really focused on is becoming a writer. I'm just like you, to be honest. Actually, just thinking about getting home later on at seven pm (if I'm lucky) an- what? Oh I was just forming my hands into a brackets gesture when I said if I'm lucky, like so it's kind of a side-thought, like a humorous-but-not-necessarily-necessary par- talking weird? Oh those words were compounded, I was just talking quickly to make that obvious. Anyways so yeah later on I'm gonna take off the old boots, ask my wife and kids to let daddy have some alone time and get cracking on a short story about this forty-five year old unpublished wannabee author who fucking ends his life in the garage of his perfect little home where he lives with his perfect wife and perfect kids and where his job as an engineer is just oh so perfect leading to his perfect little circle of friends to wonder aloud at the bar why John killed himself when he was just living the dream like the rest of us with his pension plan and great wage and perfect little life and his being looked upon as an above-average member of our perfect little society. Gosh that guy must have demo- I know that's now how I talk, I'm obviously paraphrasing what I think they'll say, jesus christ. Are you really this clueless, I mean really? You earn all this money and you're really this dumb. Oh god maybe I should have just quit this fucking job in two-thousand-and-eighteen like the guys on lit said and spent my time working on my career. Holy fuck this means nothing to me. Mr Shekelstein, I'm sorry sir but I need to leave early today. I think I'm on the verge of a very severe crisis indeed. Of course I don't mind if my wage is deducted sir, of course I have no issue with that all sir.

[Anonymous No.10759593]

The week isn't even a day old and we already have a train wreck of a thread, good job /lit/

[Anonymous No.10759597]

>>10759518
>Maybe if I say ‘cope’ no one will know just how insecure I really am about my career path

[Anonymous No.10759599]

>tfw young, beautiful, and published and award-winning

literally nothing here applies if you're actually talented and special, and people in your life can see that.
I've literally gotten my rent paid by sending well-written emails to people.

You guys just don't people who believe in you, since you're afraid to show them you're writing... that or you just suck.

[Anonymous No.10759600]

>>10759500
>You fucking dumb piece of shit I am on YOUR SIDE
Not sure why you're shocked, your side is dumb. If you think there's no middleground between "have a job" and "dedicate all time to a fulltime officejob in a magic 12 hour day". Fuck, jobs like college professor expect you to write books while working and that's a career.
>>10759424
>can't focus cause I'mTIRED
>mean blue light
>commute!
You don't have the work ethic to write even if you didn't have a job.

[Anonymous No.10759603]

>>10759593
Am I the only one that loves these kinds of threads? I’ve honestly cried with laughter at some of the worst threads on here.

[Anonymous No.10759604]

>>10759599
Is that Keanu Feed

[Anonymous No.10759605]

>>10759599
>you're

shit disciples in a cock cage, I fucked up!

shitpost still stands sans autocorrect

[Anonymous No.10759608]

>>10759568
You aren't wrong. Back in the day you could be an actual monk or hermit and write. Living very basic. Books were "free". In the enlightenment era you could live in the nook of your third aunts attic.

[Anonymous No.10759613]

Don't mind me, just posting the photo of a dumb idiot NEET who avoided work like the plague throughout his twenties.

[Anonymous No.10759616]

>>10759588
Your prose is fucking atrocious. Maybe it's a good thing you're a wagecuck

[Anonymous No.10759617]

>>10759603
I have no fucking idea what "cope" means in this context and I think it's stopping me from enjoying it

[Anonymous No.10759654]

>>10759616
>implying I'm not a comfy grad student

Jokes on you senpai

[Anonymous No.10759661]

Being able to express what I feel, and have others resonate with it emotionally, to have them feel emotion, to cry at my mere words, is a feeling I'd choose any day over any job.
I'd write even if I was homeless, which I have been near-to in the past; but the desire to be comprehended, to formulate the correct series of words, with metre, timbre, tone and consonance conducive to musicality that moves in harmony with the reader's micro-muscle movements, to afflict them with an extra-sensory dream that's merely a semblance of the maelstrom in my head... why, goddammit, I'd pick that magic any fucking week over wasting one third of my short, precious days picking away at something I hate.

How often is anyone truly understood?

[Anonymous No.10759670]

>not living the /fitlit/ published masterlife
>being a fatso basement dweller who can't get published and has to ask mom to buy McDs
>being an out os shape wagecuck so drained of energy at the end of the day you can't even fap and just go straight to bed

[Anonymous No.10759675]

>>10759661
Visual to go along with my post.

I literally check the circles every week.

[Anonymous No.10759697]

>>10759661
OP here. After reading this post I've decided to become an accountant

[Anonymous No.10759702]

>>10759654
how's the debt?

[Anonymous No.10759711]

>>10759697
good... you probably wouldn't even stack up to even compete with my shit, bruh. good on ya
cause i'm gonna be the nigga publishing all the "cyberpunk" novels about coders seeking revenge on sordid internet doings and being lauded as the realest nigga since like ever

[Anonymous No.10759724]

NEET here
I get dank NEETbux. I spent all my time pretending to be Pynchon on here, and writing posts in iambic pentameter.

[Anonymous No.10759729]

>>10759711
Wait a minute, aren't you the guy who doesn't know how to use semicolons?

[Anonymous No.10759730]

>>10759724
Fuck you how do you do it?
> if you say Bitcoin I might have to die

[Anonymous No.10759733]

Guys my mom just came in my room and told me she lost my virginity?

[Anonymous No.10759738]

>>10759729
Not him but I have no idea how to use them. I still use them; it's mostly guesswork.

[Anonymous No.10759744]

>>10759730
NEETbux is a reference to social welfare normie, also known as autismbux for those of us willing to fake a meltdown once in a while.

[Anonymous No.10759751]

>>10759724
No, I'm actually Pynchposter Iambic guy.

>>10759738
>it's most guesswork
this doesn't stand alone independently as a clause--the noun is dependent on the previous clause as an identifier. You'd rather use a comma with a contraction, or use a colon... but a colon would be aesthetically bankrupt.

[Anonymous No.10759775]

>>10759751
How about this from the novel I'm writing:

"After George's departure I slept fitfully; doubtless I masturbated. On awakening my tackle was sticky, the sand damp and cold; frankly I'd had enough. I was sorry George hadn't stayed the night; day was breaking."

Is that right?

[Anonymous No.10759786]

>>10759775
all of those semis should be commas desu
a few could just be colons or em dashes

[Anonymous No.10759806]

>>10759786
HAHA, I got you!

That is actually a quotation from the debut novel of Michel Houellebecq, the king of semi-colons. I simply replaced Tisserand with George and replaced the racism with the comment about staying the night

You sir, have been E X P O S E D

[Anonymous No.10759814]

>>10759806
No it's not lol
I've read every word of him in English, and Submission in French.

Do you get this cagey with criticism all the time?
Shiit... I can feel the hopes crashing from here. Sorry, anon ;-;

[Anonymous No.10759819]

>>10759786
nigga what you stop right now

[Anonymous No.10759821]

>>10759814
Umm, sweetie, it actually is from Whatever aka Extension....

[Anonymous No.10759829]

my sides literally hurt from laughing at the sheer mass of shitposts in this thread

I want to capture this level of absurdity and bitterness in a character desu

[Anonymous No.10759835]

>>10759821
... and indeed, it was the unconscious irony all along ;)

[Anonymous No.10759836]

>>10759829
Same desu. People don't appreciate enough just how fucking hilarious 4chan can be sometimes.

[Anonymous No.10759837]

>>10759806
This pretentious retard was also seen getting confused about semicolons in a thread a couple days ago where he was again bragging about his unwritten cyberpunk novel. He got BTFO there too, but not this hard

[Anonymous No.10759850]

>>10759837
it's a joke, nigga
literally every dweeb on here is writing some lame cyberpunk novel

lurk more, newfag

[Anonymous No.10759867]

>>10759821
holy moly hollebeck fucking sucks desu
this shit is clunky and gay

[Anonymous No.10759869]

>>10759837
I honestly believe there is subversive group of anti-grammarians on /lit/ whose intention is to undermine the board's collective literary output by making otherwise highly talented and profound writers like myself too insecure to publish their works, for fear of being ridiculed for the misuse of a semi-colon. I mean I really would like to use semi-colons in my work, but since this shill movement began I've had to go back through what I've written and rewrite entire passages simply to placate the inner voice telling me I'm not using them correctly. I really hope the mods do something about it because it's just not right.

[Anonymous No.10759875]

>>10759867
He's well-known for writing short sentences in which something serious or shocking is juxtaposed with something mundane, with a semi-colon separating the two statements or observations.

[Anonymous No.10759888]

>>10759875
Sorry I don't read lazy shit meant for midwits.

I'm more of a Pynchon/Gaddis type fella. You know, poetic and aesthetically-pleasing uses of diction.

[Anonymous No.10759898]

>>10759888
Pynchon is literally shit. The gong pasta perfectly summarizes just how shit he is.

[Anonymous No.10759901]

>>10759898
What gong pasta?

[Anonymous No.10759904]

>>10759898
holy moly you cannot read!

[Anonymous No.10759910]

>>10758727
this is true, a rare occasion on which an OP-post reads easily and with great pleasure, despite rather negative and gloomy scenario overall.

[Anonymous No.10759913]

>>10758654
please be bait

[Anonymous No.10759915]

>>10759901
The Pynchon one mate.

[Anonymous No.10759918]

>>10759910
>reading for pleasure

lmao what

[Anonymous No.10759926]

>>10759918
that was never implied in that post you absolute brainlet with 0 reading comprehension, lmao
I hope for your sake you're a child or an ESL shitskin, otherwise you're quite possibly beyond saving haha as you demonstrated by just 1 (one) short post

[Anonymous No.10759930]

>"What is rather surprising is that at least three of the characters – Philip Schnäbele, Jean-Yves Fréhaut and Catherine Lechardoy – actually exist, and have simply been plonked into the book. Understandably, they took it badly: they are represented, like many characters in Houellebecq’s novels, as pointless and pathetic. (‘Her ugly little face is glum, she regularly wipes her glasses. I even wonder if she hasn’t been crying; I can just picture her breaking into sobs in the morning as she gets dressed, all alone.’) Demonpion records the grievances of Schnäbele (in the novel, a self-aggrandising IT manager known as ‘the Serpent’), who has no memory of meeting Houellebecq: ‘I recognise myself in his descriptions. He describes my office, mentioning the posters that I had up at that time, which proves that he was physically there – but from a very biased point of view. That said, an author has every right to his freedom of expression. I just wish he’d changed my name.’"

I literally can't get over the fact Houellebecq did this.

[Anonymous No.10759934]

>>10759926
stop samefagging, OP
your "prose" is supbar at best.

[Anonymous No.10759939]

>>10759930
pathetic, very pathetic to pull off something like this. a true soyworm model of behaviour. reminds me of kierkegaard or however his ugly surname is spelled correctly. disgusting, ew.

[Anonymous No.10759944]

>>10759934
haha could you miss any harder you dumb butthurt animal????

[Anonymous No.10759947]

>mfw i derailed the shit out of this thread by calculated shitposts
>mfw spent like hours doing this
>mfw no one will appreciate my masterpieces that are these keks

[Anonymous No.10759960]

>>10759944
shut up, OP
Go apologize to your father by wearing his favorite dress, getting down on your bitch-knees, and slobbering on his red hot knob.

[Anonymous No.10759969]

>>10759806
if anything he made that french toaster more readable desu

[Anonymous No.10759972]

>>10759930
/myguy/

[Anonymous No.10759979]

>conference room at a large publishing house
>normal day, editors discussing what they've received, what to publish, etc
>some commotion is heard from outside, everyone goes quiet trying to figure out what it is
>suddenly the door bursts open and a figure runs in, clutching a stack of papers
>it's me
>I trip over a chair and fall down
>security runs in a second later
> - we're so sorry! He nobbled the receptionist's badge and bolted for the elevator before we could catch him!
>go to haul me away
> "WAIT!", I scream, "You have to see this! It's the most profound and moving study of a deeply disturbed psyche ever produced! It would make Joyce weep and burn his manuscripts!"
>Chief editor smirks, signals to security to hold off
> - Let's see it then
> Slide the manuscripts over
> Editor starts reading, his eyes go wide
> - We'll take it!
> The manuscript is just all of COPE anon's posts in this thread
>mfw

[Anonymous No.10759989]

>>10759960
>he still replies in a lame projecting gay way
wow haha you goy

[Anonymous No.10760004]

>>10759424
what the fuck is blue light and why is it keeping you from healthy sleep

i operated for YEARS on 4-6 hours of bad, drunken sleep and still managed to study and crank out bad early years fiction. you fuckers can do the same.

[Anonymous No.10760012]

>>10760004
It actually does fuck with the circadian rhythm, but most devices nowadays support a "night shift" that yellows the screen after sundown.

[Anonymous No.10760015]

>>10760004
Why would I ever aspire to write fiction of an equivalent quality to that of yourself's?

[Anonymous No.10760016]

Writing is drudgery, the product will be shit who is kidding themselves anymore that literature is relevant we are living in an age of global oligarchy and mass extinction no matter how great your success as an artist is lets say you are as good as Shakespeare himself your work will never be spoken of outside this small world of hobbyist Lil Peep will have had more mourners than the next fucking shakespeare has Jordan Peterson will have more followers on facebook than the next shakespeare has readers Donald Trump will be spouting single syllables while he crams his seventy year old piece into a porn star in the oval office while the next shakespeare composes perfect quatrains in honor of his love fuck yourself with your literary pretensions a writer is less than a wage cuck a writer must grovel for the crumbs of attention that have fallen from the tables of literally every other media.

[Anonymous No.10760027]

>>10759806
Hey you listen here you little semen-sock cummer, I'll have you know that I can string together dank lines of clauses like no ones' business; diction that will unfurl at your face at all angles–like a barrage of thick, bulbous cock–attacking your senses to obey; being certain that my prose obliterates any French pansy writing in archaic European runes; ruining any chances of you standing tall with your own words, seeing that my wickedly-calibrated syntax is far beyond anything you could produce; yes so high and lofty is my art that it makes those untalented tremble; it causes consternation among straights who will never achieve any divinity, no cloudy commune within where word and vision marry, and one can stew in contentment in creation, knowing they have a secret respite from the brutality of the grainy barrage speeding past; for those who brew in resentment and failure will cast contempt at those brave enough to shitpost in glee and bask in the amber aua of NEETdom; that is how powerful my words have become, that incels behind blue screens screech and ree at my utter superiority.

[Anonymous No.10760054]

>>10759309
>lying is evil

lmao what?

[Anonymous No.10760078]

>>10759989
shut up op
your prose is bad; you should become a wagecuck

[Anonymous No.10760095]

>>10760078
soyworm begone

[Anonymous No.10760150]

>>10760095
Chapter Seven: OP Apologizes to Daddy for Being Out Of Line

Stately, with cold hands affirm on his ass, he approached the overweight husk of his father. Bending gleefully forward, he could see the sweat-stinged red mess of flesh that lay between his father's bulbous, hairy thighs, spreading to the darkened taint made velvety through years of collision; an uncanny valley like no other that he planted his lips upon as the years progressed; in the lofty child years that glow in residual gold-beams of memory, the many instances of apologizing to daddy that went forth. Mmmm, how OP suckled, making spit and mess, slurping the sordid caked-on material of genital cataclysm in summer, mouthing the syllables of I'm sorry but never articulating fully, as his bitch-hair is pulled in closer, and daddy, in his gruff voice, declares “no song of mine will be a faggot writer,” as he looks behind to the meek mess that is OP.

[Anonymous No.10760161]

>>10760150
whoops
*son
*looked

autocorrect be hecked

[Anonymous No.10760179]

>>10760150
but i am not OP and have never been and here all of your efforts crumble

[Anonymous No.10760191]

>>10760179
you still probably suck ur dad's ass, faggot

[Anonymous No.10760196]

>>10760191
no i wouldnt mind a bbc tho

[Anonymous No.10760204]

>>10760196
>mfw my prose turned you on, you little slut you

[Anonymous No.10760207]

>>10758899
Good post.

[Anonymous No.10760227]

>>10760204
nah, that is from before

[Anonymous No.10760228]

>cope: the thread

[Anonymous No.10760239]

>>10760228
>TFW when people still say cope in the current year

[Anonymous No.10760280]

incredible thread

[Anonymous No.10760301]

>>10760239

>when people cope and react THIS hard to someone having a job in the current year
>tfw can't live at home and eat chicken tendies and complain on ethiopian tire-refitting forum about being a writer and everyone else is a wagecuck
>tfw coping

[Anonymous No.10760303]

>>10760228
jon pls stop
you have a tiny cock that u jerk off to anime to

[Anonymous No.10760328]

>>10760303

>when you can't believe that someone else is calling you on your bullshit so they must be jon, the fat loser engineer you hate
>COPING LIKE THIS IN 2018

[Anonymous No.10760403]

>>10760328
shut up, loser

[Anonymous No.10760417]

>>10760403
right after you stop actively coping this hard

[Anonymous No.10760424]

>>10758654
prove his ass wrong! or right...lel

[Anonymous No.10760529]

>>10758654
Just become an English teacher like every other aspiring writer.

[Anonymous No.10760532]

>>10760417
jon... c'mon now
cut it out

[Anonymous No.10760907]

>>10759229
>not getting a job ironically
tf is wrong with you

[Anonymous No.10760948]

>>10758654
clichéd

A better story would've been your father spinning you 180, dropping trou, and railing you up the ass right then & there; while you sob and take the phallic indignity. You'd get a #MeToo spot on NPR's Fresh Air.

[Anonymous No.10760963]

>>10760948
>You'd get a #MeToo spot on NPR's Fresh Air.

anyone else thoroughly enjoying all the #metoos going on at NPR? the day john hockenberry got let go i was in a good mood all day, fuck leanord and that schwartz guy too, but hockenberry was the sweetest one, that guy was such a piece of shit, liberal virtue signaling every day but then harassing anybody with a vag, while he's married with five kids, pure scum, and wnyc upper management protected him for years haha how liberal of them

[Anonymous No.10760997]

>>10759337
Excellent post my dude

[Anonymous No.10761005]

>>10759616
that’s the metajoke you dweeb

[Anonymous No.10761037]

>>10760963
Who doesn't enjoy smug hypocrites getting their comeuppance? The problem is that NPR now has to go extra-hard in the paint to virtue signal to its audience that it's Pro-Feminism and Ultra-Liberal. Essentially they have to play moral catch-up, like if you accidentally said nigger to some white friends and then spent the rest of the night trying to look extra-progressive and not racist. You'd think that organizations would just say "fuck it", but no they gotta double down. Best to just own it and say you like slaying that puss.

[Anonymous No.10761059]

>>10758831
i just type ‘lit catalog’ in my browser and bing it

[Anonymous No.10761119]

stop bullying engineers I'm only a first year

[Anonymous No.10761194]

>>10759337
>there isn’t a single person on the planet that cares about engineering.
>engineers literally build civilization

[Anonymous No.10761205]

>>10761194
>engineers removed all sense of beauty and spirituality and community and happiness from life and literally ruined civilization, forever
ftfy

[Anonymous No.10761217]

>>10761205
stfu you faggot, go back to waxing poetic about flowers and shit

[Anonymous No.10761222]

>>10761205
>fuck me in the ass hurrr

[Anonymous No.10761240]

>>10760016
Just because literature isn't a relevant part of pop culture like it was in years past doesn't mean the pursuit of literary success is fruitless. I honestly don't give a fuck if the same people who care about lil peep don't care about my work. They're faggots anyway.

You are right in that we live in a different age though. Priorities and tastes are changing. Doesn't mean literature is gone forever though. Just gotta adapt to the times.

[Anonymous No.10761302]

a career doesn't define a man, you must be a man before some economic item

[Anonymous No.10761305]

>>10761302
why

[Anonymous No.10761318]

>>10759930
alpha

[Anonymous No.10761399]

>>10758654
Are you Kafka

[Anonymous No.10761416]

>>10761194
Engineers build the bridges and buildings that the men who build civilisation walk upon.

[Anonymous No.10761427]

>>10758703
>find a job
That's the hard part ;(

[Anonymous No.10761430]

>>10761416
wow that’s crazy they’re like the temple builders who work for the king

[Anonymous No.10761468]

ITT: trust fund babies who are desperately trying to justify their expensive and completely useless liberal arts degrees.

>>10761430
go sniff Marx's ass you massive faggot

[Anonymous No.10761497]

it's actually Architects who built it... mmhmm... architects and freemasons... which is not fat incel engineering

[Anonymous No.10761656]

>>10759299
Now this is quality posting. Jeremy?

[Anonymous No.10761676]

>>10761656
No it's Jon the fuckhead who loves cock secretly

[Anonymous No.10761690]

>>10761468

I'm out of an old-money family, true European blue blood. I agree wholeheartedly. Most of you should aspire to be useful.

[Anonymous No.10761692]

>>10759979
underrated

[Anonymous No.10761764]

>>10761690
fuck you for being wealthy, if this were a natural feudal society I'd take you for all you're worth

[Anonymous No.10761853]

>>10761240
If you are going to adapt to the times better get cracking on cat person 2

[Anonymous No.10761897]

>>10760150
terrible prose, just stop
you're a hack with graphomania

[Anonymous No.10761917]

lol at the amount of triggered posters ITT

[Anonymous No.10761922]

>>10758654
> deciding to go into law, medicine or engineering at 23
> implying you shouldn't have started sooner

Those are some bad parents, OP.

[Anonymous No.10761924]

>>10758831
> tfw your mother always types www. for every website
> "well I just want to be sure I'm not taken to the wrong place"

[Anonymous No.10761930]

>>10761922
23 is quite young
especially for a normie tier career anyone can do

[Anonymous No.10761932]

>>10759062

[Anonymous No.10761958]

>>10759173
NEETs are not going to create a masterpiece in the modern day. This board is delusional.

[Anonymous No.10761971]

>>10761399
ye

[Anonymous No.10762000]

>>10761958
NEETs create masterpieces every day

the pleb (i.e. you) is just blind as usual
because to the mediocre masses the most desirable quality an author can possess is that they are at least a 100 years old, reading contemporary works is just passé

[Anonymous No.10762032]

>>10758742
This.
We're all living in a capitalist/material world that has no room for beauty or anything that comes with it. So stop torturing yourself and just make money like everyone else does. Nobody will have time for reading your books anyway, people don't read anymore.

[Anonymous No.10762047]

>>10762032
you sound like a complete imbecile
people had this exact same "nobody reads, people are too busy, the world is gonna end" sentiment for at least the last couple hundred years despite the trend being the exact opposite

go back to /pol/ if you believe such sensationalist garbage

[Anonymous No.10762053]

>>10762047
forgot pic

[Anonymous No.10762133]

>>10758836
>want to be writer
>don't have anything I want to write
Ouch, right in the feels

[Anonymous No.10762154]

>>10758654
>My son walks into my office.
>"Dad, I've decided to be a writer."
>"Really. And what have you written? You're already 23. Hand it over."
>:We-ell, just some gay Harry Potter fanfic, but I have a great idea for a dystopian novel and I'm sure I can--"
>"Writers write, son. I enrolled you in business college while you were babbling."

[Anonymous No.10762198]

>>10762053

But how?

[Anonymous No.10762202]

>>10762198

I mean with the graph btw

[Anonymous No.10762391]

>>10762053
2005 is 13 years ago

[Anonymous No.10762434]

>>10762154
business is over saturated so it's just as useless as becoming a writer

[Anonymous No.10762438]

>>10759062
Finish it
I need fapping material

[Anonymous No.10762462]

>>10762391
the graph has a bigger timescale than mere 13 years

[Anonymous No.10762470]

>>10762154
>"Really. And what have you written?"

tfw you have stuff you can show that you are proud of and nobody in their right mind would sneeze at

[Anonymous No.10762514]

>>10758654
>not using the convenience of one-click on the bookmark bar

[Anonymous No.10762549]

>>10762154
>"what have you written?"

[Anonymous No.10762550]

>>10762514
>bookmarking 4chan
What if you suddenly die and your family sees your computer, anon? Their grieving will be tempered by the discovery that you were (at worst) a member of a viciously anti-social, dark web alt-right hacking collective, or (at best) an inveterate memer.

[Anonymous No.10762586]

>>10762549
well... have you written anything?

[Anonymous No.10762638]

>>10761897
not at all true, loser

[Anonymous No.10762640]

>>10762586
Trash that should never see the light of day. I enjoy the writing process, but I never like reading what I've written. I wasn't born with whatever it is that is neccessary to be a great writer, but it's not a bad hobby.

[Anonymous No.10762659]

>>10761897
stop being jealous, anon...
you're just mad i can produce passages off the top of my head that are infinitely better than your own.

[Anonymous No.10762699]

>>10758730
Your life is set so that it doesn't save your history.

[Anonymous No.10762728]

>>10762198
Cheaper books, audio books, easier books. Every other year there's a huge movie adaptation that sends any 110+ IQ fan of the film to the book.

[Anonymous No.10762783]

>>10761217
>>10761222
>How can you not like engineers? They literally built the modern world
Every single engineer and anybody who respects them should be taken into the street and publicly executed IMO

[Anonymous No.10762814]

>>10762659
I'm a neutral third party and will decide the matter
>>10760150
This is good

[Anonymous No.10762835]

>>10762638
>>10762659
>>10762814
stop samefagging
this is pathetic, here's your (You)

[Anonymous No.10762842]

>>10762835
not samefagging at all, friend

[Anonymous No.10762843]

>>10762699
that sounds like a positive to me
every day is a new beginning

[Anonymous No.10762848]

Hello mommy! Your favorite little engineer is back from playing with Solid Edge 3D all day!

[Anonymous No.10762881]

>>10758654
Just turned 20. I don't know what to do for a career, have no talent in any art, and hate college, only thing i like about college were my lit classes because the readings were fun and my profs were really nice and smart.

[Anonymous No.10762930]

>>10761427
Are you actually that asocial?

[Anonymous No.10763007]

>>10759850
cant tell if this is some atrocious attempt at damage control, or just bait. a terrible post either way

[Anonymous No.10763024]

>>10762881
Same in every way desu

[Anonymous No.10763041]

>>10763024
I was thinking of just taking off from uni for a bit, get a part time job since ive never had one and i want money to buy anime stuff, read more, keep liftin, and maybe picking up an instrument. Wbu friend?

[Anonymous No.10763048]

>>10762881
>>10763024
talent is a meme
you won't know what you like doing until you put in the hours, even if you like doing something you won't know if you can do it professionally until you find out what it's like to see a project through to the end by working hard on it every hour that you can

[Anonymous No.10763061]

>>10763041
Sounds good. I'll try and at least finish this year of uni then maybe see if I can get some kind of apprenticeship that I can focus on instead, but I'm not sure really. Or I could just fuck off to France for a while but I don't that would be very helpful in the long term (I'm in the UK).

[Anonymous No.10763098]

>>10758695

Very nice.

[Anonymous No.10763136]

>>10758654
Your dad is right. Grow up.

[Anonymous No.10763137]

>>10759337
He sez as he types on a personal computer, the physical manifestation of hundreds of millions of engineering hours.

[Anonymous No.10763152]

>>10762930
I have had part-time jerk-off retail jobs before but they didn't end well. While I sincerely applied myself and embraced stress and labor and hard work for the sake of themselves, I have a fairly severe anxiety disorder that both customers and my supervisors repeatedly noticed despite my best efforts to hide and overcome it. It hindered with my ability to function like a regular and normal human being and stock fucking shelves, a job literally retarded people do, and I started drinking to stop myself from dry heaving in the bathroom or panicking at register. Eventually my supervisor noticed the smell of alcohol on my breath and here we are

I have seen multiple psychiatric professionals and they have told me that my problems with anxiety and depression are likely "endogenous," meaning they are probably caused by some biological and internal basis beyond the realm of talk therapy and adjusting my pattern of thought. The next step apparently is pumping myself full of pills because cognitive behavioral therapy has stalled

[Anonymous No.10763161]

>>10763137
so? he types with his fingers, the physical manifestation of hundreds of millions of generations of organisms, bred by hundreds of millions of agricultural hours

truly fucking and farming are the most noble professions

[Anonymous No.10763174]

>>10763007
> t. triggered nerd with no ideas other than muh internets

[Anonymous No.10763176]

>>10763137

[Anonymous No.10763181]

>>10763152
>It hindered with my ability to function like a regular and normal human being and stock fucking shelves, a job literally retarded people do
Holy shit this. People always joke and say "dude just get a job at McDonald's and start out easy" but I literally couldn't even do that. I would sweat through my uniform by the first hour and I would be so anxious that I couldn't even count fucking change at the register. Once I started turning to drink like you did I realised that I couldn't really carry on like this.

[Anonymous No.10763190]

>>10763176
lol left cant meme, wtf is this shit

[Anonymous No.10763202]

>>10763190
>wtf is this shit
It's reality, bitch, pressing her cold boot against your alt-right virgin pencil-neck

[Anonymous No.10763243]

>>10763202
>virgin pencil-dick

Fuck you, you piece of shit. I bet I have had stronger orgasms than you can ever imagine. Just absolutely amazing cums, with tremendous bursts of pleasurable feeling. I am glad that delicious pleasure is reserved for those of us who have the balls to do what we want to do, with none for scared pussies like you. You have to settle for your tiny little "ah" dribble of cum, when I am fucking spunking buckets in ecstasy like a real man. You're a tiny dicked shrimp and your dick has never felt like mine. Big, hard, and rippling with deadly joy.

[Anonymous No.10763279]

>>10763243
>t. iffy

blicky got the stiffy now

[Anonymous No.10763330]

>>10762470
That's the key. I don't care if you're published yet, but if you're 23 and say you "want to be a writer," where the fuck is your writing? You've known enough English to attempt original fiction for a decade, damn it. Let's see some work.

[Anonymous No.10763361]

>>10758654
>THIS FUCKING THREAD
OP GOD DAMN IT, JUST MAJOR IN SOME SHIT LIKE RHETORIC AND DO A DUAL MAJOR WITH BUSINESS JUST IN FUCKING CASE.
WRITING CAN GIVE YOU A JOB BUT DOING CREATIVE WRITING WILL FUCK YOU UP.

[Anonymous No.10763367]

>>10763152
Get a job in a factory or some shit like that.
If you cant work with people work in a place where you work with just stuffing boxes and be patient.
I think you just a person who needs to understand that no one is perfect and shit takes practice. shit, practice takes practice. Anyway I would suggest stop being a lazy nigger and stop being hard on your self ( little by little)
Fucking hell all this bullshit takes just a a bit of self reliance

[Anonymous No.10763383]

>>10763361
I'm sure people will listen to an all caps post with an anime image and base their career choice on it

[Anonymous No.10763404]

>>10763367
Also, you're not alone, I'm in hard place too,
I have a job and I do have plans with a pen ( hopefully that you already started working on)
Anyway my problem is that I aint rich and I want to fuck a hooker, but a good hooker, imagine waking up for months and thinking, shit I can't afford a good prostitute with a good pussy that's just waiting for my cash, shit sucks anon and I'm sad, but for now all I can do is distract my self with at least working, reading and shit posting.
Keep it together mate

[Anonymous No.10763411]

>>10763383
>Posting about one's problem on the decision of their career
>On the most satirical, autistic and stupidest site of all the Internet, where historically this site has ruined the lives of many other retards that believe what they read online
>Expect a serious answer from autists that the only thing they have done in their life is getting out of their basement, exactly like what OP said
And of course, people will defend OP on trying to become a writer, not realizing that every real professional writer wouldn't want more competition whatsoever.

Another point is that there is a board for this called /adv/, that is why no one here should be taken seriously anyway.

[Anonymous No.10763496]

>>10763174
are you implying I'm writing cyberpunk? I only write muh feels in my diary and shitposts here on /lit/

are you even the guy I responded to?

[Anonymous No.10763590]

>>10758689
>enters botnet administrated by chink jew
>cares about secure connection
lel

[Anonymous No.10763596]

>>10758831
It's not. But most services automatically do it for you.

[Anonymous No.10763695]

>>10759588
I like it. Would probably pirate a short story written by you.

[Anonymous No.10764828]

>>10758953
You're genuinely a fucking moron my man, maybe just kys.