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>If I could go back in time, I might confront him [Nietzsche] as follows: “I am a superman: hard, cold, terrible, without feelings and without conscience. As you recommend, I will achieve heroic glory by exterminating some chattering dwarves. Starting with you, Shorty. And I might do a few things to that Nazi sister of yours, too. Unless, that is, you can think of a reason why I should not." - Steven Pinker

>> No.10749411

>>10749408
>16 KB

>> No.10749414

Ass

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10749428

>well, you see i've got a reason right here, one second...

>whips out a 50 cal howdah

>BUCK BUCK

fuck outta here faggot

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>>10749408
Source or GTFO

>> No.10749449

Name: le shit nigger
(NOT Le shit nigger)
Post: ass
(NOT Ass.)
Filename: 230px-Steven_Pinker_2011.jpg
(NOT Ass.jpg NOT image.jpg)
File size: 17kb
(NOT 14kb which you get if you save this very image from 4chan, NOT 1.62MB)
Resolution: 230x307
(NOT 2700x3600)
When posting an ass thread, make sure you get these parameters right!

>> No.10749480

Is Nietzsche bullying him from the astral realm? I can just imagine Pinker having a nightmare where Nietzsche slowly walks up to him, staring down at Pinker's feminine eyes that flow with endless tears, as his body quivers in an anxiety unmatched, hearing as Nietzsche's voice burrows into those ears hidden in his quack-riddled hair, saying only the message:
>You're a fucking faggot, Stephen
causing him to wake up screaming in agony, but abstaining from getting a mental breakdown, as that would be all too similar to Nietzsche.

>> No.10749496

>>10749449
is this like feedback log from whatever script u use to do viral marketing?

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10749512

>>10749480
/ourguy/ picking on the letzermensch from beyond the grave

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10749518

>>10749446

>> No.10749525

>>10749408
>pinker
would it even be possible to have a gayer last name?

>> No.10749532

>>10749518
This is Peterson tier. Reminds me of Christian apologetic writing. It is just TOO full of butthurt. He must convince the reader that Nietzsche is nothing less than execrable.

>> No.10749549

>>10749525
Faggot is pretty gay

>> No.10749567

>>10749408
This is what peak pseud looks like.

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>>10749408
Why do people even listen to him

>> No.10749598

>>10749518
We're hitting levels of ressentiment that shouldn't even be possible.

>> No.10749601

>>10749518
I can't tell if he's being intellectually dishonest or just honestly idiotic

>> No.10749611

>>10749601
If you read the rest of that section, you'll have your answer.

>> No.10749626

>>10749611
You may assume Pinker knows his target audience hasn't read neetchan and that he needs only cherrypick quotes to falsify a sense of authenticity for his loaded rhetoric, but on the other hand it's also entirely possible he just googled "Nietzsche quotes" and thought that was a sufficient to learn everything he needed. But I guess there's the old cliche of never ascribe to malice what can be explained by stupidity.

>> No.10749637

>>10749408
>>10749518
I didn't know much about him before except that shitposters called him ass. Now I see that that tells you everything.

>> No.10749639

a
fucking
leaf

>> No.10749656

>>10749549
I think someone with the last name faggot would try to make up for it by being a manwhore though. Pinker just seems like something you could never get over no matter how hard you try. Just look at his hair and facial expression and see a man who has accepted his fisting

>> No.10749697

>>10749518
How could such a consummate bugman have provided redpills so far ahead of their time in his book The Blank Slate?

>> No.10749704

>>10749697
its true blank slate had a lot of double plus ungood shit in it, shouldve been banned

>> No.10749731

>>10749697
His background is psychology and the social sciences, that's why. He discovered some "redpills" in the field but he's still ultimately a puppet.

>> No.10749742

SUCC A NIGGA DICK OR SUMTHN

>> No.10749773

ass

>> No.10749814

>>10749525
yeah, browner

>> No.10749832

>>10749697
Intelligence is myriad. Don't assume too much about people.

>> No.10749833

>>10749518
So does this mean I no longer need to read Nietzsche?

>> No.10749890

>>10749833
From now on you'll only be reading liberalist literature young man.

>> No.10749949
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>>10749567
The thing is he's not even a pseud, he's a qualified and published psychologist and linguist so I'm sure he's not an idiot and has read his fair share of philosophy. It's just that the left props him up endlessly because he appeals to their love for "end of history" Whiggish narratives. Even after all that's happened these last few years they like him because he can goad us into thinking we have no reason to despair and that we're actually living in the best times ever (which by some metrics is true of course) and that everything is getting better, so don't complain.

It's a pretty common strategy he's been using for years really:

>more and more things in the world are going to shit
>Pinker shows up with new book or through some kind of interview/public platform to remind us that everything's improving

It's just his schtick, really. I bet he probably doesn't even genuinely believe a lot of what he says at this point, but this is what he's made a name for himself doing. And I'm sure he's not going to stop because it keeps giving him money and publicity.

>> No.10749972

>>10749949
What things in the world are going to shit?

>> No.10749981

Bill Gates called Enlightenment Now his new favourite book of all time. Does that make Pinker the Prophet of Midtown? Of the literal readership with attention span of 280 characters. Anyway, I'm sure it's super comfy and the retards who read NYT bestsellers will love it.

>> No.10749988

>>10749981
Midbrow * lmao
Inb4 t. phoneposter fag

>> No.10749999

Majorly retarded Kike.

>> No.10750066

>>10749972
You're posting on 4chan, can't believe you'd have to ask that question

>> No.10750089

>>10749972
well for one thing Trump was elected president

>> No.10750217

>>10749949
>It's just that the left props him up endlessly because he appeals to their love for "end of history" Whiggish narratives
Not "the left" - the liberals. Leftists get supremely buttmad at the idea of liberal democracy and capital being the best vehicle of progress. Look at the International Socialist Review's articles on him.

>> No.10750318

>>10749833
Do you want to be a racist and sexist?
I would start of with some female writers like J.K Rowling, then proceed to /r/books and ask any of their scholars for advice.

>> No.10750406

>>10749518
>>10749408

fedora tier (mis) interpretation
just look at his face gawd


>pinker

one in the pinker two in the stinker

>> No.10750438

His last name is literally slang for vagina

Nietzsche's last name has something in common with Zen, Zarathustra, Deleuze even

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10750465

Your move poodleman

>> No.10750471

Nietzsche is Polish nobleman and Pinker is an anglo soyboy cuck with an ugly haircut and bad clothes

>> No.10750479

>>10750471
is this bait?
>Nietzsche
>fake Polish ancestry, really a Germ
>Pinker
>Central European-descended Jew born in French Canada

>> No.10750486

>>10750479
is this bait?
he's canadian with a last name pinker who writes in english

if you're the one to care about "fake polish ancestry" I would say you don't get a lot of important parts of nietzsche

>> No.10750495

>>10750465
jesus that is a legitimately frightening picture

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10750498

>I am a superman: hard, cold, terrible, without feelings and without conscience.
How could you misinterpret Neetzsche this badly?

>> No.10750510

https://www.newstatesman.com/culture/books/2018/02/unenlightened-thinking-steven-pinker-s-embarrassing-new-book-feeble-sermon
>>10750486
Anglo is an ethnic demonym. Yes, he writes in English, and inherits English philosophical traditions. But given your other claim about Nietzsche's false perceived Polish ancestry (I agree it is not worth caring about, but I am not the one who brought it up) one would assume that you are making a racial assessment of his work, as something indicative of perfidious Albion at large. In reality he couldn't be further from a racial or geographic Anglo.

>> No.10750525

>>10750498
reddit version what being superior is

some projection maybe

>> No.10750537

>>10750495
For you. That photo doesn't frighten me in the least.

>> No.10750544

>>10750537
god I'm so far away from uberhood, its depressing

Nietzsche (PBUH) would be ashamed of me

>> No.10750550
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10750550

Why are Anglos such plebs?

>> No.10750592

>>10750510
he's a north american descendant of mutts,with an anglo surname, in what world is he not an anglo?

or muh ancestry

>> No.10750620

>>10749518
lol that's a cute power fantasy

>> No.10750622

>>10750498
>you don't understand Nietzsche
>no you don't understand Nietzsche
>you don't understand Nietzsche
>no you don't understand Nietzsche
>you don't understand Nietzsche
>no you don't understand Nietzsche
yawn

>> No.10750647

>>10750592
In a world where he's jewish

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> >>10750622
tfw nobody understands you

>> No.10750652

>>10750592
why are you so desperate for him to be an anglo?
OBSESSED

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10750654

>>10749518

>> No.10750658

>>10750650
who's that ugly girl?

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>>10749408
>This is unironically what Anglos get out of Nietzsche

>> No.10750778

>>10750650
>Posthumous men, like myself, are not so well understood as men who reflect their age, but they are heard with more respect. In plain English: we are never understood—hence our authority.

>> No.10750785

Nietzsche probably had higher grip strength than Pinker

>> No.10750806

>>10749518
lol

>> No.10750837

It's telling that all you kids can respond with is memes, racism, anti-semitism and the like.

It's almost as if this is the kind of thing Pinker talks about, it's almost like you, in your silly little tirades, completely devoid of anything resembling arguments, reason or fact, exactly confirmed his points.

Pinker has thoroughly refuted Nietzsche, both in terms of his original ideas and their impact and legacy. In a well-written and well-sourced argument, he draws also on important, widely learned and credited Philosophers such as Bertrand Russel.

I would like to see you children refute any of his points. I am waiting.

>> No.10750846

>>10749518
>this effectively kills Pinker shills
thank god for terminating at least that type of cancer

>> No.10750849

>>10750066
>>10750089
Quality posts

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10750863

>>10750837
say that again...
*unsheathes sabre*
...if you dare...
*teleports behind you*
...nothin personnel, last man.

>> No.10750865

>>10750837

>killing a man because he wrote books.

Are you actually fucking retarded?

>> No.10750876

>>10750863
Ah yes, exactly the kind of level I expected from this board.

>>10750865
What? Is this supposed to be serious or am I just wasting my time trying to understand?

>> No.10750880

>>10750876
If you expected it, why bother?

Confirmed, you really are a fucking retard.
Hang yourself, autist. And while you go do that, why don’t you suck off Pinker while you’re at it?

>> No.10750887

>>10750880
I guess I still entertained some hope that there could be a more coherent argument in defence of Nietzsche. But I guess that even if there is, none of his fanboys would be able to put it forward.

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>>10749408
>Pinker was born in Montreal, Quebec, in 1954, to a middle-class Jewish family.

>> No.10750892

>>10750887
Why is a coherent defense needed for an incoherent attack that is pretty much just pinker going on some power fantasy?

>> No.10750894

>>10750892
>I either cannot or refuse to read
Ah, right, that's the level we're at.

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10750902

>>10750887
Good, goy. Let me guess, an American?

>> No.10750903

>>10750863
>>10750865
>>10750880
>>10750892
>>10750902
>taking obvious bait this easily

>> No.10750905

>>10750902
What has that got to do with anything?
No, I expected you could tell by the fact that my English is, unfortunately, still not perfect.

>> No.10750920

>>10750903
>anything I do not like is bait
Stay classy.

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10750922

>>10749408

>> No.10750939

>>10750699
>Anglos
hehe...... ye...
>get
he probably gets way more, he's just intentionally misreading him to fuel up his rhetoric of submission and weakness.

>> No.10750956

>>10750837
>*crying wojak face* “IF I COULD GO BACK IN TIME! I’D BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF HIM”
>“durr hburr this is a genius refutation, you’re just too dumb to understand and refute it”

>> No.10751022

>>10750956
>mistaking OP's shitpost for an actual quote
Jeez

>> No.10751103

https://www.the-tls.co.uk/articles/public/twenty-questions-steven-pinker/

>he´s a real packrat

>> No.10751110

>>10751022
it's real.

>> No.10751113

>>10749408
Both this guy and Peterson are Canadian, which doesn't surprise

How can one nationality be so reddit?

>> No.10751131

>>10750837
>Pinker has thoroughly refuted Nietzsche
A moralistic fallacy is not a refutation.

>> No.10751156

>>10749518
I have not read a lot of Nietzsche, but does he not know about the misappropration by Nietzsche's sister? Does he not know of Colli and Montinari's work?
For all of Nietzsche's appeals to will and power, he was a deeply tragic and most of all human figure. Thus Spoke Zarathustra carries the subtitle 'A Book for All and None'. Nietzsche wasn't the overman, he wanted to bring him about - he wanted to elevate humanity and he only excluded those who excluded themselves.

>> No.10751167

>>10751131
In the end, no idea matters aside from it's practical consequences.

>> No.10751193

>>10749408

Holy fuck that is embarrassing.

>> No.10751196

>>10751167
lmao, fag

>> No.10751259
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10751259

>>10750785
he was cuck manlet, so maybe not

>> No.10751270

You ain't the one for me, baby
You ain't got shit I need, bitch
You want me to take my time with you
Well maybe I'm not your speed bitch
Maybe I'm out your league, bitch
You ain't even got no cheese, bitch
Maybe I'm just too G for you
Or maybe I'm just too street, bitch

>> No.10751297

>>10751167
Nietzsche's ideas are the best then, because they prepare individuals for battling with monsters better than any others.

>> No.10751301

>>10749408
>>10749518

wow, his level of butthurt is so big

>> No.10751305

>>10751297
Nietzsche wasn't a fighter though

>> No.10751310

>>10751305
Most of his writing was polemical though.

>> No.10751321

>>10751310
didn't he sell like 50 copies?

>> No.10751330

>>10751321
And your point is...........

>> No.10751338

>>10751330
how can you even unleash a polemic with 50 people reading your work?

>> No.10751372

>>10751338
Most of his attacks were on people who weren't alive anymore. That doesn't mean they weren't attacks. Also, millions have read his books at this point.

>> No.10751389

>100 replies
>still not a single post pointing out what Pinker is supposedly wrong about
Has anyone here even read Nietzsche?

>> No.10751396

>>10751389
See >>10751131

>> No.10751423

>>10749972
Europe. Are you even paying attention?

>> No.10751520

>>10751389
See >>10751156

>> No.10751709

>>10751389
See>>10751396 >>10751520

>> No.10751765

>>10751389
Nietzsche hated the Nazis and was referring to a spiritual superiority, mindset if you will, than some kind of physical eugenicist noise. Pinker's claims are so ludicrous it doesn't even merit refutation.

>> No.10751794

>>10751765
it's not his fault, he probably has read nothing from Nietzsche, he probably just fell for the Bertrand Russell or for the Popper meme like all good anglos do

>> No.10751796

>>10751765
>Nietzsche hated the Nazis
damn... he really was prophetic

>> No.10751912

>>10749408
If I could go back in time, I might confront Marx by laughing at him for setting such a good example for future communists by starving his own children to death.

>> No.10751954

>>10749408
https://www.newstatesman.com/culture/books/2018/02/unenlightened-thinking-steven-pinker-s-embarrassing-new-book-feeble-sermon

John Gray slays

>> No.10751973

>>10749408
reading a piece of writing by someone you dislike and then writing spiteful words to them in your head or some useless paper is on another level of letting someone cuck you out of your time from the grave.

>> No.10752070

>>10751796
>Germany wasn't full of protoNazis during Neechee's lifetime
He was very explicit about his thoughts on nationalistic anti-semites.

>> No.10752151

I wish this fuck would die in his sleep. So hilariously stupid.
The Overman is as warm as the sun. Every movement affects the Overman.
>>10749518
Nietzsche is not a relativist. The earth is universal to humanity.

>> No.10752187

>>10749949
What? Pinker is a liberal, a right-wing retard.
>>10749972
The environment, for one.

>> No.10752514

>>10752151
the earth is just a meme

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>>10749408
>>10749518

>> No.10752741

>>10751796
he literally hated both german nationalism and antisemitism; I think it would be a safe enough claim to make.

>> No.10752758

>>10752187
But things are largely improving on the environmental issue. All the developed nations are on an upward trend, and undeveloped nations are being lifted out of poverty with much more environmentally-friendly agricultural and industrial practices than we used to need to do the same. Even assuming that we don't manage to find a solution before climate change permanently affects the weather, it doesn't really seem like it's going to wipe out humanity or even make a major dent in society. It'll probably just be expensive.

>> No.10752851

>>10752758
this seems ludicrously optimistic, especially the whole "it'll probably just be expensive" quote

>> No.10752876

>>10752758
>All the developed nations are on an upward trend
orange gorilla

>> No.10752990

>>10751156
>but does he not know about the misappropration by Nietzsche's sister?

as posited by a Jewish revisionist
It's very impressive how liberals and others are able to mindlessly brush off every "problematic" nuances to his thought as an intervention from his ebul Nazi sis

>> No.10753000

>>10751765
>spiritual superiority, mindset if you will, than some kind of physical eugenicist noise

How about you actually read Nietzsche?
There's an obvious Darwinist undertone to his ideas on the Overman

>> No.10753002

>>10752187
>The environment
this is such a meme

>> No.10753005

>>10751389

For anyone that has read Nietzsche, this is such a ridiculous misconstrual that it doesn't warrant a refutation.

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>>10752990
>Colli and Montinari
>Jewish
so this is the power of /pol/tards, mmmmgmgmmmmmmm

>> No.10753019

>>10753005
You haven't read Nietzsche, though
Pinker is correct

>>10753012
obviously referring to Kaufmann, sperg

>> No.10753020

>>10753005
Oh yes, brilliant argument.
>I-I'm simply too s-smart to argue with you.

>> No.10753021

>>10753000

>There's an obvious Darwinist undertone to his ideas on the Overman

Point out specific passages and quote them.

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>>10753019
>obviously referring to Kaufmann
And who curated the foremost critical edition of his complete works that de-nazified his works? Kauffman? No.

>> No.10753042

>>10753000
>Darwinist
the progressive evolution idea was not original to Darwin. Darwin's thing was the idea of natural selection acting on slight variations of the same type, eventually causing races to emerge, and then to diverge into species. It's a much more subtle idea than is usually recognized, and it doesn't have really anything to do with Nietzsche's talk about overcoming morality, and creating new forms of Man.

idk where Nietzsche was getting his influence but for an obvious example Hegel also had a system of progressive evolution that had nothing to do with Darwin or biology

>> No.10753045

>>10749408

>Doesn't sound like you're sublimating very much of your animalistic urges there. Nice aftershave, eau de basic?

>> No.10753092

>>10753032
Kaufmann was THE foremost scholar on Nietzsche
the idea to "de-nazify" his work might not be originally his, but he definitely was its most influential purpoter

>>10753042
Nietzsche grew as an intellectual inserted in a millieu of rampant social darwinism; he also was well acquainted on Darwin's work and referenced his ideas on several pieces on him (both vitriolic critiques and nuggets of praise). He considered Darwin one of "the great men" of his century

>> No.10753100

>>10753000

In the sense that there's an implied physicality, a body suitable to handle the suffering that the overman needs to embrace.

In the sense that the Nazis meant it? Certainly not. There's an entire chapter in BGE that's essentially devoted to nationalists being idiots, Germans being annoying and Jews being amazing.

>> No.10753129

>>10753100
No, in the sense that he literally studied Darwin and was estabilishing a dialogue with one of the most popular strains of thought of his time: social darwinism

>There's an entire chapter in BGE that's essentially devoted to nationalists being idiots, Germans being annoying and Jews being amazing.
>Jews being amazing
Have you actually read him? His compliments to Jews are always backhanded. He praised their ingenuity and craftiness, not the whole jewish enterprise.

>> No.10753139

>>10753100
>Jews being amazing.
That's hardly what he was saying. If you published nIetzsche's stuff on Jews today you would be shit on for antisemitism. He hated Judaism and Christianity, he just rightly recognized how important and influential Jews have been

>> No.10753141

>>10753092
>Kaufmann was THE foremost scholar on Nietzsche
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH ohohohohhohobho EHEHEHEHEEHEHEHEHE
>this is what people in the anglosphere actually believe

>> No.10753144

>>10753129

>His compliments to Jews are always backhanded.

Granted, he compliments them for fucking up culture but it's a compliment nonetheless.

>> No.10753157

>>10753019
>>10753020

Fuck it then.

The aristocracy that Nietzsche advocates is compatible with magnanimity, so long as it is not coming from a place of ressentiment and weakness. His ideal of an overman is not devoid of feelings at all, and claiming this is a total and complete misunderstanding of Nietzsches entire project (only as an aesthetic phenomenon, etc.). Coupled with the very next line, about the overman being devoid of conscience, strengthens the impression that Pinkerfag is doing a terrible misconstrual. The overman is devoid of conscience only in the sense in which Nietzsche uses conscience, i.e. internalized cruelty, not a broader sense of conscience, i.e. feeling responsibility for your actions. This combined misunderstanding of course leads to the next line, about extermination, which is where shit goes completely retarded. Extermination isn't the order of the day, and making that point, Pinkerfag is basically affirming that he is an adherent to the plebbiest misreading of Nietzsche, that is as common as it is shitty.

Now, go ahead and present your counterarguments you dumb fucking faggots. Point me in the direction of the exact passages where it is claimed that the overman is devoid of feelings, conscience in the sense Pinkerfaggot is alluding to here, and wants to "exterminate" lesser beings. I'll be patiently waiting while you read his works, or, as is more probable, scour google for some lame-ass plebfuck basic bitch affirmation of your preconceived misunderstandings.

>> No.10753200

>>10753157
The Overman is the personification of aristocratic amorality: of course, a man that is a true individual, has his own values and is uncompromising on his search for power (self-interest) will not and cannot measure up to contemporary standards of CONSCIOUSNESS (as in social consciouness, or socially-accepted liberal democracy values) and is one capable of EXTERMINATION. The bridge between the ubermensch and the fascist ideal for a man is an obvious one, even though Nietzsche himself considered any sort of collectivistic action hogwash. Both the ubermensch and the Nazi aryan are romantic notions

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10753211

>muh human lives

>> No.10753214

>>10753200

>as in social consciouness, or socially-accepted liberal democracy values

Herd values.

>> No.10753219

>>10753100
>nazis
>nationalist
dohohoho

>> No.10753228

>>10753219

I don't understand this?

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10753234

>>10753228
>

>> No.10753262

>>10749408

Or, more accurately, would stand there like the timid academic scholar he is.

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10753264

Who's the public figure that comes closest to the ideal of the ubermesch?

>> No.10753269

>>10753264
the Philippines president. anti-drug man

>> No.10753281

>>10753264

Sasha Grey. What about copy-pasting existentialist articles and licking toilets doesn't say dawn of a new state of man?

>> No.10753291

>>10753264

Kat Dennings. Two broke ubermemsnch.

>> No.10753302

>>10753264
Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe was the closest thing to the ubermench according to nietzsche himself.

The sorrows of young werther and Faust are some books by him, check it out if you’re interested.

>> No.10753305

>>10749518
>nazi
there it is

>> No.10753311

>>10753264
Chadyrov

>> No.10753331

>>10753264
Me obviously

>> No.10753357

>>10749408
>>10749518
In refuting Nietzsche, is Pinker becoming an individualistic übermensch? Every time an obviously pseud lit like this gets published, I wonder what it is that made yet another somewhat accomplished scholar fall so low in terms of fairness to the subject matter. Why even write a limp manual with a bunch of bloody platitudes? Do we really need another compilation through life expectancy / literacy / whatever statistics?
The obvious answer is money, or status, and they sure play a big role, but it can't be only that, can it? Is it just his aging that terrifies him or rather dying without feeling you've had an impact on the world? Is he, in providing a faulty, dumb idea of Nietzsche's philosophy to the masses, actually becoming an übermensch of our time setting himself apart from the slave midwit majority who are his target audience and securing his spot further within the modern class of masters? The money, interviews, prestige, additional bullet points on your wikipedia page, a teatime with Bill Gates... but most importantly a feeling of self-fulfillment even if produced by brainlet-tier banality like Enlightenment Now. What a disgusting title that is by the way.

>> No.10753422

test

>> No.10753984

>>10750837
>muh le epic white man classy enlightenment argument niggerkiller fax

>> No.10753991

>>10751389
I have, as have others. Have you even read the thread, or are you too busy stroking your 'le classy enlightenment man le greeks r cool fuck niggers' cock?

>> No.10753996

>>10752758
Nope. Try again.
Agriculture is not friendly, industry is not friendly. Try again.
You are so fucking stupid, I wish I could just break your stupid fucking face. Capitalist scum are the cause of earth-death, and they go as far as reject it is even happening becuz 'muh green market'.

>> No.10754007

>>10753000
No there isn't. Try again. Nietzsche is anti-progress.
>>10753092
Every scholar is wrong besides some of Heidegger. Try again.

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10754028

>>10749408

>hard, cold, terrible, without feelings and without conscience

> I might do a few things to that nazi sister of yours, too

>> No.10754060

>>10753984
>>10753991
>>10753996
>>10754007
sup retard

>> No.10754421

>>10749532
Peterson likes Nietzsche though

>> No.10754459

>>10749525
Pinkest

>> No.10755093

>>10753200
>The bridge between the ubermensch and the fascist ideal for a man is an obvious one
>even though Nietzsche himself considered any sort of collectivistic action hogwash.
You're contradicting yourself while pretending you figured it all out. If this isn't peak brainlet idk what is.

>> No.10755106

>>10755093
He's not, because Nietzsche didn't attempt to produce an internally coherent philosophical system

>> No.10755177

>>10749408
The only reason anyone here would defend or admire Nietzsche is one related to the self: he was a permavirgin unlikeable socially inept creepy arrogant pseudo-intellectual with an unjustifiable messiah complex that LARPed as an ubermensch while being, by all accounts, an absolute loser that achieved cult status after his death and was propped up as Patriarch by the absolute edgiest ideology that ever gained traction in the last century. It's an autist's wet dream.

>> No.10755183

>>10755177
Or just because Pinker's appraisal of him is shallow

>> No.10755185

>>10755183
And no one pointed out why it's shallow in 170 posts.

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>>10755106
>Nietzsche didn't attempt to produce an internally coherent philosophical system

>> No.10755227

>>10755185
I did

>> No.10755258

>>10749518
>nazism, fascism, communism and right wing libertarianism are all due to Neecha lmao
is this a joke? that whole snip looks as if he just skimmed his wikipedia article because he heard bad things about him by his liberal colleagues and wanted to reaffirm his preconceived notions.

>> No.10755337

>>10755258
I like the end where he talks about Nietzsche being an enemy to "objectivity"

>> No.10755383

>>10750837
You have to be more subtle, although a few people did bite this time.

>> No.10755397

>>10753019
>You haven't read Nietzsche, though
>Pinker is correct
t. never Nietzsche

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10755422

>>10749408
>>10749518
Damn, that's a really unusual degree of anguish and personal grudge coming out of those words. There's got to be more to this than simple intellectual laziness. Did some wife/girlfriend cheat on him with a guy who had a huge mustache? Did a pet/friend/family member get run over by a guy reading Zarathustra behind the wheel?

>> No.10755433

>>10755177
*tips resentment*

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>>10755177
>>10755177
>he was a permavirgin unlikeable socially inept creepy arrogant pseudo-intellectual with an unjustifiable messiah complex that LARPed as an ubermensch while being, by all accounts, an absolute loser
>being this assblasted Neechee rejects the pathetic common norms you understand and value
He is admirable precisely because of those things you list. The man just didn't give a fuck, got an extremely prestigious office at an age no-one else could/had, then said fuck it and became some kind of strange hermit, walking hours a day and eating his own weight in fruit on the edge of civilization. Based as fuck.

>> No.10755443

>>10755435
wait, nietzsche was a fruititarian? wuuut no fucking way

>> No.10755448 [DELETED] 

>>10755443
>>10755435
>With a Spartan rigour which never ceased to amaze his landlord-grocer, Nietzsche would get up every morning when the faintly dawning sky was still grey, and, after washing himself with cold water from the pitcher and china basin in his bedroom and drinking some warm milk, he would, when not felled by headaches and vomiting, work uninterruptedly until eleven in the morning. He then went for a brisk, two-hour walk through the nearby forest or along the edge of Lake Silvaplana (to the north-east) or of Lake Sils (to the south-west), stopping every now and then to jot down his latest thoughts in the notebook he always carried with him. Returning for a late luncheon at the Hôtel Alpenrose, Nietzsche, who detested promiscuity, avoided the midday crush of the table d’hôte in the large dining-room and ate a more or less ‘private’ lunch, usually consisting of a beefsteak and an ‘unbelievable’ quantity of fruit, which was, the hotel manager was persuaded, the chief cause of his frequent stomach upsets.
"Not only did Nietzsche purchase fruit from the inn and from local Italian vendors, but he received baskets of fruit shipped to him by his friends as well. This wasn’t a small amount of fruit. Rather, on more than one occasion, Nietzsche ate almost three kilograms (6.5 lbs) of fruit during the course of a single day."
>when not felled by headaches and vomiting
The man was fucking insane.

>> No.10755453

>>10755443
>With a Spartan rigour which never ceased to amaze his landlord-grocer, Nietzsche would get up every morning when the faintly dawning sky was still grey, and, after washing himself with cold water from the pitcher and china basin in his bedroom and drinking some warm milk, he would, when not felled by headaches and vomiting, work uninterruptedly until eleven in the morning. He then went for a brisk, two-hour walk through the nearby forest or along the edge of Lake Silvaplana (to the north-east) or of Lake Sils (to the south-west), stopping every now and then to jot down his latest thoughts in the notebook he always carried with him. Returning for a late luncheon at the Hôtel Alpenrose, Nietzsche, who detested promiscuity, avoided the midday crush of the table d’hôte in the large dining-room and ate a more or less ‘private’ lunch, usually consisting of a beefsteak and an ‘unbelievable’ quantity of fruit, which was, the hotel manager was persuaded, the chief cause of his frequent stomach upsets.
>"Not only did Nietzsche purchase fruit from the inn and from local Italian vendors, but he received baskets of fruit shipped to him by his friends as well. This wasn’t a small amount of fruit. Rather, on more than one occasion, Nietzsche ate almost three kilograms (6.5 lbs) of fruit during the course of a single day."
>when not felled by headaches and vomiting
>3kg of fruit
absolute mad man

>> No.10755458

>>10754421
Peterson’s like of Nietzsche makes no fucking sense at all besides “embrace life” in the vaguest sense being a common value that they share

>> No.10755891

>>10755453
fucking legend

>> No.10755896

>>10755453
how much fruity can you get than that?

>> No.10755900

>>10754421
I said Peterson tier. It's the quality, not the content.

>> No.10755928

>>10749518
It's a Jewish purim fantasy. He's roleplaying blotting out a Haman from the world because Nietzsche was critical of Jews and an inspiration to Nazi. Pinker isn't making a serious philosophical remark here, he's just hit that hard limit of what Jews can discuss level-headedly before the tribal neuroticism emotionally overwhelms them; facing criticism as a group.

>> No.10755936

what should we do about the jewish problem?

>> No.10756045

>>10755453
>Eat fruit till you chuck your guts up
So this is the power of the uberman

>> No.10756050

>>10755422
See>>10755928 and read up on the annual Purim festival

>> No.10756350

>>10749518
Breddy gud. My respect for Assman has just gone up
>b-be nice to my philosophy husbando! no bully!
Lmao no. Talk like a fag, expect to get your shit kicked in eventually.

>> No.10756363

This
Isn't
Literature.

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>>10749496
It's an [s4s] meme

>> No.10756384

>>10749408
that's hardcore....

>> No.10756388

>>10755928
>>10756050
Nietzche wasn't anti-semitic. And Purim is based on the story of Esther, which is in the Bible. I thought you nazis promoted muh conservative Christianity.

>> No.10756399

>>10750498
>all I know about Nietzsche is he was a nazi or something

>> No.10756407

>>10751389
The ubermensch isn't some cold mass murdering automaton like he makes it out to be.

>> No.10756413

>>10756407
what's the point then?

>> No.10756418

>>10756407
Yes it is, that's what the result was in Nazi Germany. All German philosophy leads up to that moment when Hitler takes power.

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>>10756418
>All German philosophy leads up to that moment when Hitler takes power.

>> No.10756437

>>10756418
t. german post-war "thinkers"

>> No.10756457

>>10749518
>If I could go back in time

>> No.10756473

>>10756457
>TO THE GOOD OLD DAAAAAAAYS

>> No.10756565

>>10756388
>I thought you nazis promoted muh conservative Christianity.
Where in the world would you get that impression?

>> No.10756580

>>10756434
It's true and it's something a lot of philosophers have reflect on. Nazi Germany being the realization of the phylosophy of Hegel and Nietzsche.

>> No.10756588

>>10750510
>The purpose of Pinker’s laborious graphs and figures is to reassure his audience that they are on “the right side of history”. For many, no doubt, the exercise will be successful. But nagging questions will surely return. If an Enlightenment project survives, what reason is there for thinking it will be embodied in liberal democracy? What if the Enlightenment’s future is not in the liberal West, now almost ungovernable as a result of the culture wars in which it is mired, but Xi Jinping’s China, where an altogether tougher breed of rationalist is in charge? It is a prospect that Voltaire, Jeremy Bentham and other exponents of enlightened despotism would have heartily welcomed.
>Judged as a contribution to thought, Enlightenment Now is embarrassingly feeble. With its primitive scientism and manga-style history of ideas, the book is a parody of Enlightenment thinking at its crudest. A more intellectually inquiring author would have conveyed something of the Enlightenment’s richness and diversity. Yet even if Pinker was capable of providing it, intellectual inquiry is not what his anxious flock demands. Only an anodyne, mythical Enlightenment can give them what they crave, which is relief from painful doubt.
>Given this overriding emotional imperative, presenting them with the actual, conflict-ridden, often illiberal Enlightenment would be – by definition, one might say – unreasonable. Judged as a therapeutic manual for rattled rationalists, Enlightenment Now is a highly topical and much-needed book. In the end, after all, reason is only the slave of the passions.

PINKER BTFO

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>>10756580
>Nazi Germany being the realization of the phylosophy of Hegel and Nietzsche.

>> No.10756814

I agree with him. For a Nietzschean, specially one not concerned with philosophy and art (which are valid paths for an ubermensch) there isn't space for compassion or measure. I'm not saying he was an anti-semite, just that what he preaches would have disastrous consequences for the average person at a political level.

>> No.10757006

>no YOU interpret Nietzsche
no YOU interpret Nietzsche
>no YOU interpret Nietzsche
no YOU interpret Nietzsche
>no YOU interpret Nietzsche
no YOU interpret Nietzsche
>no YOU interpret Nietzsche
no YOU interpret Nietzsche
>no YOU interpret Nietzsche
Okay, Nietzs-
>LOLOLOLOLL THAT'S NOT WHAT NIETZSCHE THOUGHT XXXDDD ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED BRO???? FUCKING PSEUDS MAN. GET FUCKING BTFO >>>>>IMPLYING IMPLICATIONS

>> No.10757020

>>10756799
how was that a fedora statement, are implications of sculpted hat just thrown around at random now

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>>10749532
>mfw Humanist and Liberal apologetics will become a legitimate literary genre within my lifetime

>> No.10758208

>>10751305
He was a cavalryman you idiot.

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>>10751305

>> No.10758501

>>10750498

the icycalm interpretation

>> No.10758516

>>10757020
*tips politely*

>> No.10758595

>>10749518
classic Jewish resentment

>> No.10758614

>>10749518
typical overcompensation for a severe lack