/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.10727640]

Is this the future of poetry and literature in general? A new age of ultra simplism and minimalism?

[Anonymous No.10727710]

>>10727640
Yes. Distillation has been an on going pattern for years. Our humor is summed up into single picture memes, our poetry is no longer than two sentences, and our music contains 3-4 notes.

This is the world we live in now. Get used to it.

[Anonymous No.10727718]

>>10727640
yeah, any kind of sophisticated poetry is racist and sexist because only white men can do it

[Anonymous No.10727720]

>>10727710
The Brainlet Society

[Anonymous No.10727724]

>>10727640
I know this is just a meme but I predict the Rupi backlash will go mainstream soon

[Anonymous No.10727728]

>>10727724
>Rupi backlash
?

[Anonymous No.10727741]

>>10727710
Memes are very very PC, humor got distilled into something like saying omg bacon, or the ground is lava, humor used to talk about sensible stuff while liberating tension, but the nu-humor just occludes any controversial debate with darth vader references, 80s references and all in all a sea of irrelevancy and consumism used as a pivot for bonding, making finally a fragile bond, because the memer knows it all has no value, no root, no meaning attached.

[Anonymous No.10727807]

>>10727741
Oh christ stop being such a prissy faggot. Nowadays a meme is basically just any kind of joke where the internet is the primary place it's being shared. Obviously the qualities can vary but it's not indicative of the downfall of western intellectual thought or whatever the fuck you're trying to portray it as. If anything memes are far better now than the demotivationals, rage comics and 'i can haz cheesburger' shit from the aughts.

[Anonymous No.10727822]

>>10727640
>do you know how often flowers confuse me for home?

yes, a total of zero (0) times.

[Anonymous No.10727823]

>>10727728
Meaning that more people will start believing that her poems are bad and she's a shallow writer

[Anonymous No.10727860]

>>10727724
you're right, they forced highschoolers in Australia to analyse feminist, rupi-tier quadroon "poetry" in the final English exam last year and the whole year level of kids got censored and harassed on kikebook after making monkey typewriter memes about the half abo thot who wrote the abomination
young normalfags know what's up, though of course the extent of their own literacy is mainstream internet culture

[Anonymous No.10727872]

>>10727640
this isn't minimalism. it's platitudes, regurgitated opinions, and shitty drawings with random linebreaks. it only qualifies as poetry because retards on instagram classify it as such. it's sickening.

[Anonymous No.10727875]

>>10727860
Rupi backlash =/= making fun of "quadroons" on "kikebook." Her poems aren't bad because of her identity. Rupi's poetry is shit when considered on its own merits, and that's all you need.

[Anonymous No.10727887]

>>10727640
i like this one

[Anonymous No.10727912]

>>10727875
no, I disagree. Rupi Kaur's poems are disgusting because not only are they shit, she writes about her obnoxious identity.
>muh brown vagina empowers me against the white patriarchy
is why they are so irksome, I could forgive the shitty poems if they were simply shit and not so antagonistic and obnoxious

[Anonymous No.10727914]

>>10727875
But in particular, the social engineers are hell-bent on getting people to respect their terrible poetry, in all reality precisely because of their 'identity'.

[Anonymous No.10727936]

>>10727912
Right, so how she writes about her identity is bad and cringey. That doesn't mean that another Indian girl couldn't come along and write something thoughtful and beautiful, possibly unrelated to her identity at all.
Besides, it's possible to write about race and gender that aren't so obnoxious, moralizing, and trite. Toni Morrison is an example of someone who tackles these issues in a nuanced and aesthetic way.

[Anonymous No.10727949]

>>10727936
alright, I missed the mark again
it's obnoxious because of the blatant politicisation and ideology saturating every surface of the works, which is what compels the consumer machine to promote this shit poetry and why it will even end up in schools

[Anonymous No.10727952]

>>10727914
So an appropriate backlash wouldn't just dive further into the identity politics pit, which is what would happen if you dismissed her poetry on the basis of her identity (which would also imply that other poetry is good because the authors are the "right" identity). The response should be an acknowledgement that identity does not confer quality.

[Anonymous No.10727997]

>>10727952
But that is precisely the response which is disallowed by the PC elite. It is no longer acceptable to ignore or minimalize or marginalize or otherwise -ize somebody's identity (unless they're a white male!)

Now, you might say, this is just paranoia, or this is reactionary, but you'd be quite wrong. You can just read the things the leftist intelligentsia write. They're quite explicit about this. They consider 'whiteness' as an identity to be uniquely illegitimate, while endorsing identitarianism for all other groups

[Anonymous No.10728005]

>>10727997
The left shows us a very important lesson, one that all should follow: Do not become a slave to history.

[Anonymous No.10728050]

>>10727997
Tbh I don't think a Rupi backlash will be that deep. People will just start to notice that this particular empress has no clothes and her star will begin to fall. I do agree with you that a lot of people on the left/academia endorse identitarianism and tribalism, which I deeply disagree with. But there are still people out there who are willing to stick their necks out and go against the grain. I do think that there will be a shift someday away from identitarianism, but it won't happen if people try to deny the reality of these identities entirely. There will have to be an acknowledgement that various categories/identities are real but they're not the only important things about a person or their work.

[Anonymous No.10728334]

I'm writing an environmentalist epic poem. It is divided in three sections. The first one describes the river that crosses the city I live in before the city was there. The landscape was lush and mermaids played in the river's water. Destruction comes in the second section, as the city emerges. The mermaids die off.
But do they? The third section is a tale of restoration. I find the last mermaid alive and we procreate, gifting the world with an entire generation (we have lots of sex and fish can pop out babies pretty fast) of half-mermaids. They teach the civilization how to live in harmony with Nature and they clean up the river.

[Anonymous No.10728369]

>>10727640
yes

[Anonymous No.10728374]

>>10728369
what if the 'backlash' was just a huge production of poems in Rupi's style just to show how vulgar they really are?

[Anonymous No.10728389]

What's up with the all lowercase trend? And lack of punctuation? Is it just a fad?

[Anonymous No.10728418]

>>10728389
It's done purely for instagram aesthetics. There's no deeper meaning.

>“This guy is the best,” she says, noticing an edition of Kafka’s complete stories; she’s referring to Peter Mendelsund, the book’s designer. “The dream is to have him design my next book.” His work, she points out, translates well across media — to different sizes, to posters, to digital.
https://www.thecut.com/2017/10/profile-rupi-kaur-author-of-milk-and-honey.html

[Anonymous No.10728419]

>>10727860
What the fuck. How did I not hear about this? Which state?
My money is on NSW

[Anonymous No.10728474]

>>10728419
>Australia
>which state?
Typical amerifag.

[Anonymous No.10728682]

>>10728419
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/oct/17/ellen-van-neerven-indigenous-poet-abused-hsc-english-students
funny stuff

[Anonymous No.10728729]

Yeah. Yeah.

There is more and more content and the same time, although because of this it seems that you have less time. This makes readings easier and/or shorter (why do you think twitter was successful?) and causes publishers to publish shorter books and/oor with a pauperish content but disguised with font sizes.

[Anonymous No.10728767]

>>10727640
everything is the inspirational chain email
your mother forwarded you
from her bible study group
or motivational text on instagram

[Anonymous No.10728830]

>>10728682
Australians are even trashier than I thought

[Anonymous No.10728850]

>>10728830
shut up cunt

[Anonymous No.10728905]

You could take old poems, simplicize them into ideas over few words, and have better and more rich results than kaur has.

[Anonymous No.10728947]

>>10727640
it is a blessing
to be the color of milk
do you know how often
teeth thank me for calcium

[Anonymous No.10728950]

this land is
waste land
but then
thunder comes
shantih

[Anonymous No.10728952]

>>10727741
> posts another pepe meme

[Anonymous No.10728957]

yeah i get people want to be woke but what if i want to go back to bed like wtf i gotta wake up ever day i hate it

[Anonymous No.10728982]

>>10728374
D E V I L I S H

[Anonymous No.10728993]

>>10728952
idont have a single frog in my computer.

[Anonymous No.10728997]

>>10728947

[Anonymous No.10729017]

>>10727640
Is this real or satire? It's the most narcissistic thing I've ever read

[Anonymous No.10729031]

>>10729017
thing is. shes talking about her disgusting hairy ass. hair = flowers in feminist neospeak. its all in code, its all delusions of grandeur and crypto gender fascism.

[Anonymous No.10729041]

why am i so
good
im like
perfect

- rupi kaur

[Anonymous No.10729045]

It's a blessing
To be the color of shit
Do you know how often
I don't use the toilet

[Anonymous No.10729052]

why are women allowed to be dumb and still prosper? its unfair.

[Anonymous No.10729059]

>>10729031
idk if you're memeing me right now, I thought a similar thing because it reminded me of a another doodle she did where trees grow up a woman's leg to represent hair. So she's saying she's proud of being Indian because she's hairy

[Anonymous No.10729060]

it is a blessing
to be the coulour of light
do you know how often
lessers confuse me for god

[Anonymous No.10729064]

>>10729060
I cannot spell, at least I am not brown

[Anonymous No.10729069]

>>10729059
>memeing
its the kind of subject so ridiculous you need to constantly check is people are making up evidence or not. i think the hair = flower metaphor is proper. theres probably tons more, but im not deconstructing that shit.

[Anonymous No.10729089]

>>10727822
Isn’t that the point? She's saying how it sucks to be brown, having your skin shit colored doesn’t help for anything

[Anonymous No.10729099]

>>10728947
underrated cheeky post

[Anonymous No.10729456]

>>10728418
I feel you anon, her poems have always bothered me and I think its because they're more about a visual art than they are verbal or actually poetic.

They feel rough, course, and unfinished to say with the syllables, sound notes, and etc.

They're always accompanied by a picture too, usually something vaguely minimalist that sort of captures the overall simplistic notes of the poem.

For example in the poem above, the second line the word "often" phonetically is so abrupt with the -ten- portion, just throws the entire liquid phonetics use of the poem off.

Its like shes whispering the entire time then she just slaps you in the face then goes back to whispering. And for what dramatic effect; the underlying of the fact she occurrence she speaks of happens a lot?

Like why not just use "much" instead. The -ch- blends way better with the previous -th- from "earth" and then you have this concurrent whisper mote following throughout.

Like I get it, aesthetics wise its beautiful, but surely we can do better than just visually appealing.

[Anonymous No.10729609]

>>10729045
that's what the poem was saying

[Anonymous No.10729613]

>>10727640
Poetry hasn't had a future outside of music for a long time.

[Anonymous No.10729624]

>>10729456
well yeah
>don't you know how OFTEN i am subjected to the racism, the sexism, the HATE? woe is me