What are some science fiction novels that you would recommend?

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Anonymous Tue Feb 13 21:32:51 2018 No.10693427 [Reply] [Original]

What are some science fiction novels that you would recommend?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 13 21:34:19 2018 No.10693434 >final story is just descriptions of a woman's tits at various stages of her life Not Hyperion.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 13 21:41:29 2018 No.10693462 >>10693427 >A Fall of Moondust, Arthur C. Clarke This one was pretty good. but bear in mind it was written before the moon landing.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 13 22:19:13 2018 No.10693624 Children of time

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 13 22:20:29 2018 No.10693629 >>10693427 IHNMAIMS, A Boy And His Dog, basically anything by Harlan Ellison

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 13 22:23:04 2018 No.10693641 Revelation Space Leviathan Wakes The Windup Girl Dune Ringworld I, Robot The Algebraist Aurora

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 13 22:28:49 2018 No.10693666 >>10693427 Stop after the second book.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 13 22:31:16 2018 No.10693676 The Gods Themselves

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 13 22:34:24 2018 No.10693688 File: 995 KB, 500x270, 1517443332339.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10693624 this. good book.

Anonymous Tue Feb 13 22:40:11 2018 No.10693716

>>10693427
Lets see..

>Blood Music
>Ringworld
>The Ringworld Engineer
>Protector
>Footfall
>Rendezvous With Rama
>Rama II
>Dune
>Dune:Messiah
>Forever War
>The Martian Chronicles
>Childhood's End
>The Island Of Doctor Moreau
>Starfist series if you like serialized military sci-fi
>War Of The Worlds
>1984
>The Man In The High Castle
>Roadside Picnic
>Day Of The Triffids

That's just some of what I've got on my shelf

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 13 22:41:28 2018 No.10693722 File: 346 KB, 1061x554, Screenshot_20170926-124559.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10693641 >Revelation Space Nice taste. Rereading the series now.

Anonymous Tue Feb 13 22:41:59 2018 No.10693724
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>>10693427

The Red Rising Saga
Is one of the best futuristic space tales I've ever red. Its got elements of age old Romanesque elitism. Genetic modifications separate people into color coded social groups. The main character was born a red (miner) on mars. Which is the lowest rung on the social ladder. Of course. And he ends up leading such a huge revolution that it nearly tears the solar system apart.

https://www.goodreads.com/series/117100-red-rising

"I live for the dream that my children will be born free," she says. "That they will be what they like. That they will own the land their father gave them."

"I live for you," I say sadly.

Eo kisses my cheek. "Then you must live for more."

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 13 22:59:46 2018 No.10693795 >>10693427 Canticle for Leibowitz

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>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 13 23:11:37 2018 No.10693841 File: 2.60 MB, 1320x3000, 21330.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10693837 We have website for recommendations. http://4chanlit.wikia.com/wiki//lit/_Wiki

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 13 23:15:19 2018 No.10693854 >>10693841 Lucifer's Hammer is so good mayne. truly one of the best sci-fi novels

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 13 23:20:19 2018 No.10693872 >>10693427 Peter Wats, John C Wright, Liu Cixin, Wil McCarthy, Stephen Baxter (if you really like PHYSICS), Charles Stross for some pretty hard, high concept stuff.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 14 02:46:45 2018 No.10694563 >>10693629 right, if you like klaus kinski tier ranting and screaming. op, ignore ellison, he only ever wrote one good story and that was "god bless you, little life hutch". go read some Iain M Banks instead. "The Player of Games" is pretty good.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 14 02:47:54 2018 No.10694566 File: 71 KB, 179x179, wat_deathbulge.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10693716 >>Rendezvous With Rama yeah! >>Rama II naw. Gentry Lee took a beautiful universe and shat all over it.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 14 10:02:02 2018 No.10695663 Slan or Galactic Patrol for the very very old stuff

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 14 10:56:13 2018 No.10695865 >>10694563 This, the culture saga is (imo) the best scifi setup youll find. Fresh stuff. I also loved Excession a lot, but i see it rarely reccomended here

Anonymous Wed Feb 14 11:07:25 2018 No.10695915

This is a bit biased, but I like the Halo novels (Yes, the ones based off the games.) I enjoy the adventures and the unique situations characters are put in.

It helps if you've played the games, because they help with descriptions for specific aliens.

I'm not here to promote the company or anything, but I just really enjoy the Halo universe.

If you were to start, I'd recommend buying; The fall of Reach.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 14 12:07:48 2018 No.10696182 I have good memories of enjoying Mass Effect 1 and 2. anyone read the books?

Anonymous Wed Feb 14 12:40:11 2018 No.10696296

>>10693624
This, definitely.

>>10693434
Agreed. It was a great universe he set up, but the later books got trite and dull.

Greg Bear writes some broad, fantastic sci-fi! He wrote some of the Halo novels. But, his best work was Eon.

Theodore Sturgeon wrote some good, (though definitely dated) sci-fi. I'd check out "More than Human" and "To Marry Medusa" (a.k.a. "The Cosmic Rape")

Samuel R. Delany has a collection of short stories called "Driftglass". Some may not agree with his overall life outlook, but I really enjoy that each short story is very tragic on a personal level, while the overarching theme throughout is one of triumph.

Anonymous Wed Feb 14 13:07:11 2018 No.10696410

>>10693427
Are there any classic science fiction, that could stand their own in the literary canon? Most SF I have read consist of a beginning, a muddle, and an end. Cool and edgy ideas that are sometimes poorly executed. I read some Harlan Ellison short stories which were excellent, but are there actually any decent SF novels which aren't shit?

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 14 13:20:08 2018 No.10696466 >>10693427 Anything you can find by Dennis Schmidt

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 14 13:39:09 2018 No.10696540 >>10693724 >picking reddit and goodreads's favorite YA book Jesus

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 14 14:31:02 2018 No.10696816 File: 39 KB, 318x470, 222093.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] City by clifford d simak

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 14 14:32:43 2018 No.10696827 >>10693724 >miners are the lowest rung What about sewage people? I guess they live fancy lives. >everyone is color coded hurr durr Fucking garbage for special ed highschool kids.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 14 15:09:47 2018 No.10696992 File: 267 KB, 800x1317, Vernor Vinge_1999_A Deepness In The Sky.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] A Deepness in the Sky is still one of my favorites.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 14 16:17:48 2018 No.10697345 Flowers for Algernon Starship troopers(its better than the movie)

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 14 19:16:48 2018 No.10698163 File: 972 KB, 1091x1820, Nine-Hundred-Grandmothers.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] This

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 14 19:19:17 2018 No.10698175 S o l a r i s

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 14 19:24:43 2018 No.10698208 >>10696827 >>everyone is color coded hurr durr >Fucking garbage for special ed highschool kids. This

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 14 20:13:59 2018 No.10698373 File: 42 KB, 725x232, way off baseline.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10693427 all memes aside. hyperion is a bad book

Anonymous Wed Feb 14 20:19:44 2018 No.10698406

>>10695865
excession implied that the Culture wasn't quite as good as it pretended to be. the ships occasionally did shitty things. they were fallible.

which is, i guess, a good thing. more realistic. but the Affront were a bit over-done in their enthusiastic assholery, i thought. sort of like the Empire of Azad turned up to eleven.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 14 20:20:01 2018 No.10698407 >>10693427 I'd recommend:

Anonymous Wed Feb 14 20:21:41 2018 No.10698416
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>>10696410
>I read some Harlan Ellison short stories which were excellent

how old are you? jesus christ.

read this. come for the implied frog - human sex and stay for the court scene where the judge gets a spear in the chest, and it's alllll perfectly legal.

Anonymous Wed Feb 14 20:41:32 2018 No.10698495

>>10698416

The dosadi experiment was way too self indulgent for my tastes. It just comes across as a half baked ego trip which kills any interest I might have had for the premise, which is itself kind of laughable once you take a step back and think about it. If dune is anything like it, I'll probably pass on that too.

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 14 20:51:47 2018 No.10698546 >>10698163 Finally, another Lafferty shill Lafferty is the secret master of scifi, him along with Wolfe

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 14 22:26:23 2018 No.10698875 File: 452 KB, 1600x1239, 15067792982640.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10693427 The Demon Princes by Jack Vance

>>	Anonymous Wed Feb 14 23:30:38 2018 No.10699163 Look into Robert McCammon, Swan Song And Stinger are some of his best.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 15 00:00:59 2018 No.10699320 File: 243 KB, 789x1200, embassytown-1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] China Miéville

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 15 01:45:13 2018 No.10699756 >>10693427 Schilds ladder

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 15 08:04:23 2018 No.10700728 File: 72 KB, 960x698, philip k dick.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10693427 get some dick in you

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 15 08:09:54 2018 No.10700747 File: 411 KB, 1280x1256, PzClvxA.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Ubik Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep Neuromancer and the Sprawl trilogy Snow Crash Software (Rudy Rucker)

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 15 08:13:43 2018 No.10700758 >>10693427 Anything by - Robert A. Heinlein Anything by - Isaac Asimov Anything by- Arthur C. Clarke. Those were the big three of sci-fi back in the golden days of the genre. Tho Hyperion and Dune also are nice

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 15 08:25:57 2018 No.10700804 >>10700758 >heinlein god-tier >asimov literally shit tier >clarke mid-tier writer, top-tier concepts tho

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 15 08:33:10 2018 No.10700824 >>10693716 >Forever War this was good Forever Peace was weird

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 15 08:34:16 2018 No.10700829 File: 20 KB, 220x327, 220px-AzazelAsimov.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10700804 >>asimov his book about the pocket demon was ok if you like raunchy comedy about big-titted girls

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 15 08:35:18 2018 No.10700833 who was that guy that wrote that american sci-fi was about robots, by robots, for robots?

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>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 15 09:01:36 2018 No.10700919 >>10700804 Although I will agree that Asimov is more pop-lit than the other too, he was one of the classic big three in the golden age of sci-fi. His foundation series is quite the joy.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 15 10:58:20 2018 No.10701287 >>10700919 >he was one of the classic big three in the golden age of sci-fi that's what other say i respectfully disagree foundation is terrible. if anything the robot stuff was his best work

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 15 11:05:06 2018 No.10701306 File: 41 KB, 640x400, rock-eyebrow.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10700829 Raunchy, you say?

Anonymous Thu Feb 15 11:45:30 2018 No.10701468

>>10693427
>What are some science fiction novels that you would recommend?
If you like stuff that is humorous too I recommend the Vorkosigan saga by Lois McMaster Bujold. It's a pretty huge series by now but entirely worth it. Incredibly good worldbuilding and swashbuckling space opera like very few authors have pulled off.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 15 12:01:48 2018 No.10701542 The Foundation trilogy Rendezvous with Rama The Book of the New Sun

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 15 13:13:41 2018 No.10701805 File: 224 KB, 1920x1080, xana.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10700829 h-how raunchy?

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>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 15 16:39:25 2018 No.10702699 File: 270 KB, 1000x844, 25953-gateway-pohl.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Frederik Pohl is GOAT

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 15 17:54:03 2018 No.10703140 >>10696816 That book was fucking AMAZING

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 15 18:15:08 2018 No.10703247 >>10693427 Too Like the Lightning Blindsight Revelation Space The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch Everything by Lem and the Strugatskys

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 15 20:07:56 2018 No.10703753 File: 150 KB, 648x1068, 71oXwkf7FRL.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Neuromancer

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 15 20:18:06 2018 No.10703791 >>10703753 is this really difficult to read or am I just a brainlet

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 15 20:37:38 2018 No.10703863 >>10693795 this.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 15 20:41:18 2018 No.10703885 Scholar > Consul > Soldier > Poet > Detective > Priest. Talking about their tales of course

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 15 20:43:04 2018 No.10703891 >>10703885 oh cool I am about to read the Scolar's next. I liked the poets the least so far, desu. Soldier's is gonna be tough to beat

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 15 20:46:14 2018 No.10703906 >>10703753 Only book that's hooked me from the first sentence. >>10703791 Difficult to read in what way?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 15 20:47:46 2018 No.10703914 >>10696992 I almost like Deepness but the spiders' dialogue is fucking atrocious. What is it with SF writers being unable to write good dialogue?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 15 21:17:42 2018 No.10704084 >>10703906 Hard to keep track of jargon, the story and the scenes It felt very confusing in general

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 15 21:27:15 2018 No.10704151 >>10704084 It's actually a very simple heist story with SF trappings, you're thinking about it too much because of its reputation and setting.

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>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 16 06:34:34 2018 No.10705842 >>10693427 Solaris (Lem) The Ugly Swans (Strugatzki Brothers)

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 16 06:37:43 2018 No.10705853 >>10703791 Somewhat.

Anonymous Fri Feb 16 12:29:46 2018 No.10707306

>>10693427
Dune
The Left Hand of Darkness
Bleeding Edge
The Slynx
Ubik
Xenogenesis (Lilith's Brood)
Never Let Me Go
The Wild Boys

>>10703791
It is poorly written which makes it difficult to read imo.

>>10696296
I am reading my first Delany right now and I love it.

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>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 16 14:45:07 2018 No.10708006 >>10707781 absolute classic how people can near deify trash like asimov when gems like this were published at the same time is utterly baffling

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 16 15:28:04 2018 No.10708216 Titan (baxter) The Forever War (haldeman - also highly recommend the graphic novel, if you can find it) Next (crichton) Day of the Triffids (wyndham)

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 16 16:13:36 2018 No.10708397 >>10702699 We're talking about the guy who wrote a poem about banging his gender-bent clone.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 16 16:18:15 2018 No.10708429 File: 19 KB, 380x450, blue hell bar.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10702699 Been meaning to read Gateway ever since I played the text adventure. I've read Murasaki though, it was cool. >>10708397 What's wrong with that?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 16 16:22:12 2018 No.10708450 >>10708429 Theres a gateway game?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 16 16:24:52 2018 No.10708467 >>10708450 Yeah, as I said it's a text adventure but it has cool pics that illustrate the scenes. It has quite a good atmosphere. http://www.abandonia.com/en/games/540 (play it in dosbox if you want to try)

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 16 17:24:28 2018 No.10708796 File: 135 KB, 800x1376, Robert-A.-Heinlein_1966_The-Moon-Is-A-Harsh-Mistress.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I really enjoyed The Moon is a Harsh Mistress by Heinlein

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 16 17:49:09 2018 No.10708938 >>10693427 Solaris for real best sci fi novel

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 16 18:07:59 2018 No.10709031 >>10696182 Seconding this. I enjoyed those as well.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 16 19:51:55 2018 No.10709472 >>10700728 Came here to post this >Obese pony fucker

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 16 20:19:17 2018 No.10709576 >>10699320 Is he good? I've got kraken lying around but everytime I end up watching lexx. .. your personal rating for kraken will do inform me, thanks in advance even if you didn't read it, then just an author opinion.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 16 20:25:50 2018 No.10709594 Riddley Walker

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 16 20:27:12 2018 No.10709596 >>10709576 I've read PASS and it was good although the plot was somewhat weak.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 16 20:31:15 2018 No.10709602 >>10709596 *PSS

Anonymous Fri Feb 16 20:37:41 2018 No.10709624

>>10709602
Hmmm yes, the plot was what I was worrying about, because the lover aft hype. Are you the op of the post I replied to or a random helpful stranger? Because I would have guessed he even read his pic related. But yeah a reply warrants me a free Sunday to read it I guess. Thanks, whoever you are and so on.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 16 20:53:27 2018 No.10709665 >>10700824 >Forever War Love this book

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 16 21:52:35 2018 No.10709886 >>10708429 Nothing, I'm just a brainlet that responded to the wrong one. Meant to be about Asimov.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 16 21:55:56 2018 No.10709896 File: 30 KB, 293x475, Armor.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10693427 Probably my all-time favorite book. >"You are what you do when it counts."

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 16 21:59:27 2018 No.10709904 Blindsight by Peter Watts

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 16 22:00:02 2018 No.10709907 >>10693724 YA garbage

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 16 22:14:15 2018 No.10709944 >>10698416 >>10698495 Based on those descriptions, no Dune is nothing like that at all. Of course, I have not read Dosadi.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 17 06:00:54 2018 No.10711371 >>10708796 >I really enjoyed The Moon is a Harsh Mistress by Heinlein of course you did anybody who says otherwise is lying

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 17 06:08:50 2018 No.10711386 Time Out of Joint

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 17 06:13:22 2018 No.10711398 File: 109 KB, 910x525, BotNS.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10693427

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 17 06:28:34 2018 No.10711438 File: 113 KB, 600x600, 1437687857034.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10711398 give me a quick rundown

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 17 11:38:45 2018 No.10712453 >>10698373 neck yourself

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 17 12:07:04 2018 No.10712578 >>10711438 chad fucks his way north and then becomes ruler

Anonymous Sat Feb 17 12:29:04 2018 No.10712677
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>>10711438
insane future torturer space jesus fights duel with flowers, does incest, eats brains, resurrects people, populates his own mind with the ghost minds of dead emperors, chats with aliens who are traveling back in time, meets and fights other versions of himself from different timelines, reads stories from his book, gets a new sun to replace the old dying sun, and finally writes the bible which is an account of the aforementioned events

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 17 13:03:07 2018 No.10712812 D A R W I N I A

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 17 13:58:46 2018 No.10713070 Just found out that Altered Carbon and Leviathan Wakes have sequels, are they any good?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 17 13:59:25 2018 No.10713077 File: 212 KB, 2616x1314, 1508204346068.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10712578 >chad i've got a meme which says you are wrong

Anonymous Sat Feb 17 14:04:07 2018 No.10713103
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reading this right now. Can't say if it qualifies as pure sci fi but whatever.
It's VERY weird. It reads like a dream. Characters and locations are introduced and dispensed with at will, the plot is almost secondary to the environment. I think this is one of those you either love or hate. But I found myself almost completing it in three days

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 17 14:26:07 2018 No.10713229 File: 24 KB, 220x330, 220px-Annihilation_by_jeff_vandermeer.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Has anybody read "Annihilation?" I'm seeing mixed reviews but I think it looks appealing.

Anonymous Sat Feb 17 14:31:49 2018 No.10713258

>>10713103
I never read the book, but there not all sci-fi needs to be a hard sci-fi, that is, very focused on the possibility because it has a real and focused check on the science and it's theorys.
Hard sci-fi is very cool, but in my honest opinion, if it focus too much in the scientific aspect, it can fall short on the aesthetic one and/or the writting in itself, killing the flowness of the narrative.

Anonymous Sat Feb 17 14:49:04 2018 No.10713332
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>>10693427

Meme question: What is the Lord of the Rings of science fiction, sci-fi series that are a contender for the best series and have not been ruined by money grubbing offspring?

Anonymous Sat Feb 17 14:56:31 2018 No.10713381
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>109 replies
>no one mentioned this
What fucking plebs you all are. This is the definitive science fiction book.
It's a sort-of sequel to The Last and First Men, but you won't really miss anything by not reading the original. I would still strongly advise it though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 17 14:57:18 2018 No.10713386 >>10713332 >What is the Lord of the Rings of science fiction i have only ever heard Dune described as such i don't agree, however i don't think SF has ever had a writer quite like Tolkien

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 17 15:24:49 2018 No.10713507 File: 122 KB, 272x275, fuckmyfathertbh.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10713332 Foundation or the Hyperion Cantos probably >>10713386 >have not been ruined by money grubbing offspring? this excludes Dune

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 17 15:34:29 2018 No.10713553 File: 1.17 MB, 200x207, 1518294516524.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10713507 >Foundation >Hyperion >comparable to Lord of the Rings

Anonymous Sat Feb 17 15:52:24 2018 No.10713638

>>10713553
Pretty sure it's the closes we've got
but despite them being conflated all the time fantasy and sci fi are different genres
the epic battle between good and evil and the growing up adventure and all the yes my liege honor nonsense belongs in one genre and much less the other

Anonymous Sat Feb 17 16:12:31 2018 No.10713727
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>>10713332
Real talk:

There is no Lord of the Rings of science fiction. Just like there is no Lord of the Rings of non-sff fiction.

LotR's whole thing is that it has its own freakishly well-developed mythos, complete with languages, histories and so on. Anything that wants to be "Lord of the Rings" of something would have to be fantasy itself. Else, you're reduced to saying something is like Lord of the Rings because it was influential. But then what's the point using LotR for reference? You're more honest by asking the real question: "what is the most influential sci-fi novel?"

If that's what you're asking, I'd answer there is nothing in sci-fi as influential as LotR was in its genre.

>>10713638
>the growing up adventure
Well, at least that's one trope LotR avoids.. Frodo is like 50 years old when he leaves for his adventure.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 17 16:14:16 2018 No.10713739 >>10713229 It's a great little horror story. Sets up a premise and then it's rug-pulls all the way down. The sequels undermine the ambiguity so I wouldn't bother with them.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 17 16:24:44 2018 No.10713788 File: 99 KB, 589x594, earthquake.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10713507 >Hyperion Cantos The "Canterbury Tales" of science fiction >Foundation The "Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire" of science fiction

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 17 16:27:18 2018 No.10713798 >>10713727 This was the biggest error of the films. Frodo is supposed to fifty. Sure, Hobbits have longer lifespans than Men, but still, he wasn't some boy.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 17 16:39:36 2018 No.10713859 >>10713727 I was asking what is the best science fiction book series.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 17 16:43:20 2018 No.10713876 >>10713859 there's no consensus but Dune is as close as you're getting to one

Anonymous Sat Feb 17 16:56:03 2018 No.10713935
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>>10713859
Pffft

For me it's probably Wolfe's Solar Cycle (Books of the New Sun, Long Sun & Short Sun)

HOWEVER

There are so many great stand-alones in sci-fi. That's one big difference between the two genres. The fantasy greats are often long trilogies or series of books, whereas many of the sci-fi greats aren't part of a series:

PKD's classics, Bester's "The Stars My Destination", Lindsay's "Voyage to Arcturus", Wells' classics, Gibson's "Neuromancer", Heinlein "Moon is a Harsh Mistress", Lem's "Solaris", Orwell and Huxley's dystopia classics...

If we look at sci-fi series, some of the big boys are:

Dune series
Wolfe's Solar Cycle
Asimov's Foundation books
Simmons' Hyperion series
Iain M. Banks' Culture series
Stephenson's wild rides... and so on

The original Dune is great, but the series as a whole is very patchy. Not exactly the best. Foundation series is a classic but I don't like it. Too sterile, bad prose, etc. Culture books are fun, often disgusting, and explore very interesting themes... but the whole post-scarcity utopia thing really stretches belief. Stephenson is an acquired taste, Wolfe as much as I love him is also polarising.

In conclusion I think the great sci-fi series tend to be weaker than the great stand alone novels

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 17 16:58:38 2018 No.10713951 >>10713935 Oh shit, before you guys crucify me on the altar of pedantry, yes I have just remembered Neuromancer is part of a trilogy, I'm SORRY ok? It does work as a stand-alone novel though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 17 17:05:51 2018 No.10713979 >>10713739 Good. I hate having to read a whole series of books to understand what should be said singularly.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 17 17:18:25 2018 No.10714038 Blindsight by Peter Watts

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 17 20:39:14 2018 No.10714929 >>10713935 >Simmons' Hyperion series >Iain M. Banks' Culture series I can't think of two more overrated works of SF, tbqh

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 17 20:53:39 2018 No.10714972 >>10714929 >not including Asimov's Foundation state of this thread tbph

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 17 21:10:55 2018 No.10715042 >>10714972 >Implying Foundation isn't exactly what people say it is

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 17 22:06:05 2018 No.10715269 >>10715042 When did the Foundation become popular enough for /lit/ to hate it?

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 17 22:25:19 2018 No.10715381 >>10715269 Foundation has always been really popular, so it makes sense there'd be a faction of contrarians who read it after it had been hyped up too much

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 17 22:25:37 2018 No.10715382 >>10715269 what are you talking about it's been one of the best known sci fi series for like 60 years

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 17 22:28:27 2018 No.10715398 >>10714038 'sup reddit

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 17 22:34:14 2018 No.10715412 >>10715269 /lit/ has always criticized Asimov's abilities as a writer even while acknowledging the significance of the Foundation and Robot books.

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 17 22:38:57 2018 No.10715435 >>10693641 >the Algebraist That's a funny way to spell Surface Detail

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 17 22:41:01 2018 No.10715447 >>10715435 >Implying The Algebraist isn't a better book than any single Culture book

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 17 22:41:46 2018 No.10715453 >>10715435 >Surface Detail What an odd way to spell Inversions

>>	Anonymous Sat Feb 17 22:42:46 2018 No.10715461 >>10715453 >Inversions what a quaint way to write Feersum Endjiin

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 18 01:02:22 2018 No.10716067 File: 403 KB, 920x1200, 9781101910092.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10713229 VanderMeer's Big Book of Science Fiction has some top-tier short stories

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 18 01:07:47 2018 No.10716085 >>10715398 Do they like that book? I wouldn't know.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 18 06:15:20 2018 No.10716868 >>10715269 >hurr durr people never read a book until they came to /lit/ asimovfags in denial. reading his prose is like eating a 500ft water biscuit.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 18 07:29:48 2018 No.10717007 >>10700898 This

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 18 07:54:00 2018 No.10717068 >>10693624 Ayyye this was great.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 18 07:55:12 2018 No.10717073 >>10703791 This is just difficult to read because a lot of the concepts are now known under different names. If you had never encountered the matrix films in your life, it'd be easier.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 18 07:57:12 2018 No.10717083 >>10693641 >The Algebraist Of all the culture books anon, why the fuck?

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 18 07:59:03 2018 No.10717092 >>10717083 The Algebraist isn't a Culture novel. Use of Weapons was the best one anyway, though I haven't gotten around to The Hydrogen Sonata yet. Is it any good, /lit/?

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 18 08:05:42 2018 No.10717112 Book of the New Sun and Gene's other stuff Dune 1 through 4 most anything by Phillip K. Dick maybe Neuromancer if you're into that gay shit

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 18 08:07:29 2018 No.10717119 >>10717112 best post ITT tbph

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 18 08:09:58 2018 No.10717132 >>10717092 Fuck mang, I thought I was the only one who liked Use of Weapons the most.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 18 08:13:27 2018 No.10717137 >>10712677 fuck I love this shit

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 18 08:19:20 2018 No.10717159 >>10713739 I agree with this. The whole thing doesn't need 2 sequels.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 18 08:22:26 2018 No.10717170 >>10713507 >implying anyone gives half a shit about Brian's books

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 18 09:04:09 2018 No.10717295 >>10694566 I could stomach Rama II. >everything after though What the hell senpai?

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 18 11:12:20 2018 No.10717743 >>10716868 No, it's just that /lit/, like most thematic boards, tends to hate on popular things just because they are popular in an effort to distinguish themselves from the hated normies.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 18 11:57:14 2018 No.10717924 >>10717092 >Is it any good, /lit/? I've read Hydrogen Sonata It's not one of my favourites. It's very depressing.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 18 13:42:17 2018 No.10718496 >>10698495 Can you say that again without meme words? And yes. I read it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 18 13:44:56 2018 No.10718510 >>10713070 They are great

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 18 13:48:49 2018 No.10718522 >>10717924 yeah, Banks was dying at the time, so...

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 18 13:49:49 2018 No.10718526 >>10717112 The use of language in neuromancer is horrible. English is my second language and neuromancer reminds me of Chinese students butchering English at school.

Anonymous Sun Feb 18 13:53:34 2018 No.10718542

>>10718526
Gibson was trying to create a new slang, I guess.
It makes for a difficult read the first time around, and unlike say A Clockwork Orange, the slang in Neuromancer isn't very enjoyable or memorable to read.
Personally, I think it's overrated as a novel, although it's influence can't be denied.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 18 13:54:32 2018 No.10718545 >>10718522 >yeah, Banks was dying at the time, so... Mmhm. You can tell.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 18 14:17:26 2018 No.10718659 >>10709031 >>10696182 I heard that the books were shit, though I haven't read them. They cited Cold Steel (Kai Leng) in the books being so much of an adrenaline junkie that he ate his target's cereal after finishing his job in bugging an apartment.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 18 18:14:30 2018 No.10719875 >>10717083 I don't have to answer such a retarded fucking question

Anonymous Sun Feb 18 19:57:29 2018 No.10720547

>>10703753
I experienced it as a lightweight though somewhat diffuse novel but was a bit put off by the technological ignorance of Gibson. He made up for it with ingenuity and his somewhat accurate futuristic predictions though. Are there even any Cyberpunk authors that depict an accurate view of technology as we know it? Considering it's prime were the 80s and most people didn't have much practical knowledge about computers back then.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 18 20:27:30 2018 No.10720724 File: 343 KB, 1600x1200, 15189840398721.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10698875 Vance is patrician pulpy fiction. Demon Princes has possibly the best ending to any SF series.

>>	Anonymous Sun Feb 18 21:10:45 2018 No.10720950 Read dhalgren

Anonymous Sun Feb 18 21:29:38 2018 No.10721049

Dune is being recommended over and over, as it should be. It's the kind of book that actually SHOULD be assigned reading in high school.

Also seeing lots of recommendations for Neuromancer and the rest of the Sprawl trilogy, but interestingly none for Gibson's Bridge trilogy. Virtual Light, Idoru, and All Tomorrow's Parties are some quality material, I feel like Gibson learned from some of the mistakes he made in the Sprawl books.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 19 02:07:06 2018 No.10722274 >>10713381 I'm going to read this now, thanks anon. It looks great.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 19 02:12:15 2018 No.10722293 Sci-Fi is great, but what's a book about little grey men?

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 19 02:42:15 2018 No.10722392 >>10703885 CRUCIFORMS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 19 07:36:12 2018 No.10722983 >>10713103 I literally just opened this for the first time. Can't say anything about it so far, other than it's pretty popular around here I guess

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 19 08:19:30 2018 No.10723110 read everything by Lem

Anonymous Mon Feb 19 10:27:17 2018 No.10723487

>>10720724
>Demon Princes has possibly the best ending to any SF series.
Shit, I should really get on it then.
Last time I quit reading it because my ebooks were missing entire pages or something.
I'm also halfway through the Tschai series but I don't like it as much.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 19 11:59:37 2018 No.10723885 Is it normal for me to dislike Dr. Who compared to me liking Star Trek?

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 19 12:00:19 2018 No.10723890 >>10723885 Dr Who a shit

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 19 12:12:55 2018 No.10723948 >>10723885 why would you relate those 2 series? one is pop culture, the other goofy sci-fi, totally different genres

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 19 12:18:27 2018 No.10723974 >>10723885 Dr. Who isn't even in the same ballpark

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 19 13:17:39 2018 No.10724243 >>10698406 >tfw you will never be an immortal welfare NEET on a GSV

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 19 13:19:59 2018 No.10724252 >>10713070 LW sequels kind of peter out imo

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 19 13:35:09 2018 No.10724329 Just read all the books from S.F Masterworks by gollancz publication.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 19 13:43:11 2018 No.10724368 File: 828 KB, 825x464, file.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >ctrl F "lord of light" >0 results What are you even reading

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 19 14:24:08 2018 No.10724591 >>10723948 Both of which being shit and gay

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 19 14:28:44 2018 No.10724621 >>10724591 there's no need to be coarse

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 19 14:42:56 2018 No.10724699 >>10694566 Rama II was more Rendezvous and I enjoyed it well enough. Nicole des Jardins was a mistake however and Garden onwards are fucking garbage.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 19 15:09:48 2018 No.10724838 >>10713103 I loved it a lot desu

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 19 15:16:09 2018 No.10724878 >>10724368 looks neat, thanks >>10723885 dr. who is gay trash

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 19 15:47:59 2018 No.10725041 >>10723885 same here, dr who is to stupid to be enjoyable even in a pulpy way

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 19 16:43:00 2018 No.10725324 >>10713229 Very good.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 19 21:28:18 2018 No.10727102 File: 286 KB, 800x1333, 81rAZ4o3MIL.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Cities in Flight

Anonymous Mon Feb 19 23:34:04 2018 No.10727676

>>10713935
Big agree with most of this, getting past Consider Phlebas in the Culture is the biggest hurdle, after that, it's butter
Just got Book of the New Sun myself, I read The Wizard Knight before and it's the only fiction that I have shed a single tear for, and I don't know why. Wolfe's style is either extremely powerful or completely empty
Dune is Dune, Book 1 is good, book 2 is needed to finish Paul, book 3 might as well be part of 4 and 4 either makes the series great or retarded to the reader

Need to read Foundation, Solaris, Stranger in Strange Land and Hyperion though, theyre on the backlog

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 19 23:40:06 2018 No.10727699 ctrl+f, and see no one has recommended it. Huh. OK. Pandora Star and Judas Unchained (it's a two part-er, so in that order) by Peter F Hamilton.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 19 23:42:38 2018 No.10727712 >>10727699 Ah, I have two more. Ender's Game. I never cared enough to pick up the rest, but I honestly enjoyed the first. And "The Gap Cycle," which is a 5 book series by Stephen R. Donaldson. First book in the series is called "The Real Story."

Anonymous Tue Feb 20 01:06:25 2018 No.10728009
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Most people here will tell you both Three Body and Watts' books are reddit, but those faggot niggers would be depriving you of great sci-fi and you'll end up grinding through some meandering Stephenson garbage. You should unironically ask reddit. /lit/ has its head far up its own ass, and I only go to /sffg/ to find what to avoid.

Works well!

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 20 02:40:08 2018 No.10728318 >>10724368 second

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 20 02:43:04 2018 No.10728329 >>10728009 what is this three body of which you speak?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 20 04:25:49 2018 No.10728591 >>10727712 >Ender's Game. I never cared enough to pick up the rest, but I honestly enjoyed the first. the later books in the series are better IMO (of course you should still start with the first)

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 20 08:26:54 2018 No.10729178 >>10727676 >Need to read Foundation no you don't. really

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