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When did you realise that life isn't about happyness but about giving it meaning /lit/?

>> No.10690864

when I learned how to spell happiness

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>>10690832
>about giving it meaning
>creating meaning

>> No.10690900

When did you realize you were embedded in a meaningful system and cannot create meaning ex nihilo?

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>>10690832
What’s the problem with me trying to find happiness ?

>> No.10690954

>>10690900
Thats what metaphors are for.

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When did you realize that you're still a hedonist obsessed with pleasure, and you've only turned to masochism because stuffing yourself with ice cream gives you a tummyache?

>> No.10690986

>>10690832
Life is about machines.

>> No.10690987

>>10690981
I’m a sadist because I like stuffing people with ice creams to give them tummy aches

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>>10690917
Getting nice things does not really make happy. Overcoming adversity does.

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>>10690832
when I realized the meaning was to minimize suffering by recognizing it as a malign condition

>> No.10691097

>>10690986
Suffering machines

>> No.10691100

>>10690996
You should probably read Nietzsche he makes the best argument against this thinking.

>> No.10691207

>>10690996
But pain is really fun anon.

>> No.10691212

>>10690832
when I watched a tragic play and realized that it nonetheless counted as quality entertainment

>>10690900
>I'm not making it up as I go, it was there all along!

>> No.10691239

>>10690832
when i binged le lobster man

>> No.10691295

>>10691097
Suffering machines are only a kind of machines.

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>>10690832
but leading a meaningful life is just a tool to achieving happiness

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>>10690832
On a shallow level I realized the action of living is about creating meaning very early on, as a teenager. Embarrassing to admit almost but it was after I experienced near death after inhaling DMT at 20 years old when I really took that idea serious. That really changed my reasons for living and took me from near constant suicidal thoughts to valuing being alive above all else.
When I realized that L(big l)ife itself in G(big g)eneral is about creating meaning out of material, wasn't until I really started to study systems biology, biosemiotics, ect, a few months after that DMT experience. Now I realize that what Life does at every scale it operates on from the cell to ecological interaction is meaning making. That's what makes life alive.

>> No.10691425

>>10690992
t. overcompensating underachiever
Jerking yourself off to Zarathustra won't fix your life. Get a job you escapist piece of shit.

>> No.10692238

>>10690917
I really, really, really like this image

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>>10691100
>you should probably read some obscurantist aesthetic bullshit, because, I mean, you want to get laid, right?

>> No.10692500

>>10692304
I mean you can be a miserable sack of shit if you want.

>> No.10692540

>>10692238
I like it too

>> No.10692715

>>10692500
Thanks. I'd rather air on the side of caution. I don't see anything objectionable about philosophical pessimism or celibacy. That's a good enough reason for me to proceed from these ideals. And if anything this has made my life more bearable. I have a chiaroscuro of negative space in which the unlikely moments of peace, joy and beauty can be fully appreciated. Meanwhile people who labor under the expectation that life ought to be good on average will tend to be more inclined to notice every little inconvenience that tugs at the threads of such a delicate perspective. Since I came to terms with a pessimistic perspective now I notice how people whinge and complain about petty minutia, meanwhile I've already anticipated all of it and recognize I can't reasonably expect any better.

>> No.10693128

>>10691323
u sure?
plenty of people have led meaningful, painful lives

>> No.10693675

>>10692715
>pessimism of weakness
>not a pessimism of strength
that guy's right, read Nietzsche!

>> No.10694685

>>10691295
This board can be insufferable..

>> No.10694693 [DELETED] 

Does anyone else inherently suffer nonstop but still hate gay shit thought traps like oh this guy's weak because he doesn't duhhhhhhhhh

>> No.10694699

>>10694693
alright that was a bad attempt at getting instant attention

>> No.10694720

>>10691323
Yeah but you're not creating meaning for the sake of happiness but for the mere existence of meaning itself. That's the entire point. If you only motivate your quest for meaning by a quest for happiness you will achieve neither.