[ 3 / biz / cgl / ck / diy / fa / ic / jp / lit / sci / vr / vt ] [ index / top / reports ] [ become a patron ] [ status ]
2023-11: Warosu is now out of extended maintenance.

/lit/ - Literature


View post   

File: 20 KB, 300x220, Pen.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10685778 No.10685778 [Reply] [Original]

How did you become a good writer?

>> No.10685812

>>10685778
PRACTICE AND CRITICISM

>> No.10685817

>>10685778
nobody on /lit/ ever did

>> No.10685820

>>10685778
imitation

>> No.10686090

genius

>> No.10686102

>>10685817
This.

>> No.10686111

>>10685778
Imitation and then slowly diluting that imitation to make it less obvious.

>> No.10686146

>>10685778
>good writer
>on /lit/

>> No.10686236
File: 599 KB, 663x465, ce07821ed6c901a747677a6cfbc63920.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10686236

>>10685778
Understanding that your English teacher actually were right when critiquing your shit.

inb4

> i wasnt into le lit in school

>> No.10686245

ITS SIMPLE YOU JUST NEED T-

>> No.10686256

>>10686245
-OLSTOY

>> No.10686258

just be yourself :^)

>> No.10686263

>>10685778
Wrote stuff I liked.

>> No.10686296

By not reading or writing and browsing lit everyday

Practice this and you'll be published in no time

>> No.10686312

Um...i started out bad, but with promise, as most of my teachers said. I stayed bad for a long time, then as I got older my outlook changed, I started writing seriously, didn't try to write just to prove dumb points and or satisfy my ego, and just focused on telling a good story, and then I finally got published. Still not really an accomplished author as of yet, but It seems like I'm at least on the right path.

>> No.10686339

>>10686245
Practice every day
Read every day
Study why you enjoy certain writers
Study why you dislike others
See what the writers you admire had to say about their own process and development
Imagine the kind of writing that both you and somebody other than yourself would want to read
Be persistent, especially in the face of rejection and failure
Be sincere

>> No.10686355

>>10686263
This can be true provided you have good taste. if you think The Martian is the best book ever, then your writing is going to reflect this. This is where read more comes in.

>> No.10686365
File: 72 KB, 788x685, 307.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10686365

>>10686236

>mfw my Creative Writing and English teacher told me that I was a genius

>> No.10686389

>>10686365
I don't think any sane professor would ever tell a student that. For one, I don't see how it's possible for a student to be a writing genius. If they were one, they wouldn't be a student, they'd be out writing books on their own. A student is somebody, by definition, who has no idea what they're doing and is looking for guidance. At best you can tell them that their stuff is promising, maybe if they work at it another ten or twenty years it'll be something.

>> No.10686424

>>10686389

High school teacher, not university professor.

That aside, I don't think so highly of myself -- but I still disagree with what your assumption. One of my favorite writers didn't publish her first book of short stories until she was 32, as she was busy earning a PhD. She won the Pulitzer Prize shortly thereafter and has since authored a handful of other works.

>> No.10686452

>>10686424
What makes you think she would have published it earlier, if she wasn't busy with her schooling? It probably took her that long to develop the right mindset to writing good material.

Most writers don't become good until they're at least 30 anymore.

>> No.10686494

>>10686452

Nothing.

She won a Pulitzer Prize and is a fantastic writer. I'd consider her a genius. My only point was that somebody who's gifted wouldn't necessarily abandon their education.

I've only submitted content to magazines and newspapers, but I think publishing houses are notoriously picky, no matter how talented you are. There are tons of stories around the Internet of folks submitting award-winning material to publishers only to be turned down and told 'their' work isn't up to par.

>> No.10686565

>>10686494
>My only point was that somebody who's gifted wouldn't necessarily abandon their education.

I didn't say they would abandon their education, just that if they were a genius as a student, they wouldn't need the education. She probably obtained her "genius" status, somewhere along the later stage of her education, or sometime after. She wasn't a genius to begin with, as a freshman student. No student is, at best they can be promising, which was kinda my point.

>> No.10686578

>>10686565

Eh. I more or less agree with you.

I do think some people have a certain knack for education that's probably brought about by a combination of genetic potential and upbringing. Not everybody has it, no matter how much they do or don't read and write.

Having said that, I do think education is a necessary prerequisite for just about anyone who isn't an actual Ubermenschen.

>> No.10686593

>>10686578
Some people can obtain good writing, or anything really, by going through the education system. Some (most I would say but it's arguable) do it by other means.

Education of course, is pretty subjective. Just because somebody wasn't an actual university student, or was a poor one, doesn't mean they haven't ravenously read the classics and studied their ass off at writing.

>> No.10687292

>>10685778
I didn't, but i like my own penmanship.

>> No.10687319

>>10685778
>>>>implying

>> No.10687323

The only way is to write a lot, and to write when uninspired.

>> No.10687505

I read more than I wrote.

>> No.10687512

I've always been told I'm good at synthesising information (highschool and uni). When I read Hegel, it made too much sense.

>> No.10687725
File: 43 KB, 574x380, 1484099061051.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10687725

Shared my work with people I knew would rip it apart. Studied under people way above me. Read and mimicked writers far better than me. Wrote every chance I got, even when I didn't want to. Even when I was tired, uninspired, and even more insecure than usual.

Writing is a skill, and like any other skill worth mastering, progress begins at the end of your comfort zone.

>> No.10687757
File: 12 KB, 182x183, 1441384154213.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]
10687757

>>10685778
I'm hoping I achieved that by doing a lot of writing. I'm in the second-last chapter of my manuscript tonight, which means I'll probably be self-publishing within two weeks. Then I'll see whether I get a barrage of one star reviews or something more favorable.

>> No.10687765

>>10687757
>self-publishing
why

>> No.10687768

>>10687765
Because I doubt any traditional publisher would touch it with a ten foot pole.

>> No.10687771

This basically
>>10686111
>>10686236
>>10686339
>>10687323
>>10687505
All other post are SHIT

>> No.10687786

>>10687768
What about the editing process?

>> No.10687803

>>10687786
I'm going to give it a once-over myself, then pass it onto another person to do the same. I tend to make the odd typo here and there when I write it out, but I always catch them when I go back to edit. The second pair of eyes are for just in case I missed something. I know it's not really professional, but my main concern is really for the obvious mistakes and typos to be fixed, not so much to have a literary opinion on it, which I can't afford.

>> No.10687825

>>10685778
you don't, but you attempt to.

>> No.10687847

>>10685778

read, write, edit, criticize, re-write, wash, rinse, repeat

also fap to lots of hentai tiddies

>> No.10688080

>>10685817
>>10686102

be like the occasional popper inner and smell the shit so you know what not to step in

>> No.10688115

>>10687803
Print it and mail it to yourself as a poor man's copyright and then post it here

>> No.10688178

>>10685778
I studied, I read, I received criticism and criticized myself, I practiced multiple forms periodically, I never gave up, I always believed I'd be a good writer because I always come back to wanting to write

>> No.10688770

Explored writing as it's own thing, as opposed to what I was writing. Both are extremely important but there are skills inherent to writing itself. But both are important to develop tho. So I explored a lot of different types of writing while in college and found my niche.

>> No.10688802

>>10688178
I do this also but I ask who ever I can

>> No.10689950

>>10687725
Underrated post.

>> No.10690001

>>10686578
>>10686494
What's her name?