/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.10678088]

ITT: Liberalist literature

[Anonymous No.10678094]

>>10678088
What does that even mean? Sounds like an hoax.

[Anonymous No.10678101]

>>10678088
>Liberalist
What now ?

[Anonymous No.10678108]

Have you even read Locke?

[Anonymous No.10678122]

>>10678088
YouTube was a mistake.

[Anonymous No.10678286]

>>10678088
Primarily Locke, The Constitution, John-Stuart Mill, The Declaration of Independence, explicitly not The Federalist Papers or Notes on the State of Virginia.

[Anonymous No.10678319]

>>10678088
JOHN LOCKE

[Anonymous No.10678326]

gr8 deb8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LZh6VzLhxU&t=1s

[Anonymous No.10678331]

>>10678122
The skeptic community was a mistake, YouTube is (content wise) fine

[Anonymous No.10678369]

>>10678331
I would go farther than that and say that all YouTube "thinkers" were a mistake. I remember back in the late 00s YouTube was swamped with fedora tippers jerking off their egos and now we have to deal with a bunch of wannabe political activists who are just as pretentious and egotistical as the old fedora tippers. It's all so insufferable.

[Anonymous No.10678441]

>>10678088

as >>10678108 said, Locke, pronouced as low-kee, or Loki. Not really Plato. Sargon disagrees with Plato. Mostly Locke. Have you read Locke?

[Anonymous No.10678508]

>>10678286
What's wrong with the Federalist Papers?

[Anonymous No.10678517]

>>10678508
Ask Sargon.

[Anonymous No.10678533]

>>10678517
What a dumb memeing Europoor

[Anonymous No.10678625]

>>10678369
>2000s - edgy teenage atheism
>2010s - edgy teenage right-wing politics
>2020s - ???

[Anonymous No.10678634]

>>10678625
Edgy teenage nihilism

[Anonymous No.10678639]

>>10678625
edgy left wing politics from the edgy right wingers who went so far right they came out left
thats me btw unironically

[Anonymous No.10678655]

>>10678625

>presumes equality between everybody
>fights for video games
>right-wing

Maybe you're just real far-left so you call everything far-right, because sargon is anything but far-right

[Anonymous No.10678663]

>>10678625
proud woke women of color

[Anonymous No.10678668]

>>10678639
So you're now a pro-idpol, pro-choice, pro-internationalist, pro-fluidity, transhumanist, technocratic, anti-imperialist, anti-corporatist, anti-statist, anti-hierarchy, anarcho-syndicalist iconoclast leftist??? IF NOT DON'T EVEN TALK 2 ME

[Anonymous No.10678672]

>>10678655
I agree but tbf he did say "edgy teenage right-wing politics" which is apt descriptor for 99% of right wing content creators on youtube. You can say the same thing about the left though. Who the fuck needs rational discourse when some faggot can make a youtube video full of emotional platitudes and BTFO his strawmanned target.

[Anonymous No.10678674]

>>10678369
It is amazing to me how comfortable people are spreading information on something they have a cursory knowledge of, and how people view anonymous personalities with no credentials or sources as beacons of intelligence. They are masturbatory pseudo-intellectuals supported by other masturbatory pseudo-intellectuals. They lack any humility or self awareness and poison political conversation by telling others to act the same.
The internet has made is so convenient to balkanize communities and create echo chambers with absolute, smug conviction in their beliefs.

[Anonymous No.10678686]

>>10678668
anybody smart on the right will either get out of politics and focus on saving their own skin in an increasingly tribalistic world or embrace deep ecology.

[Anonymous No.10678689]

>>10678663
This but unironically.

If you don't get a proud woke WOC as a waifu then you're missing out on a huge investment.

It's *clap* about *clap* to *clap* be *clap* their *clap* turn

[Anonymous No.10678698]

>>10678674
>The internet has made is so convenient to balkanize communities and create echo chambers with absolute, smug conviction in their beliefs.
I un-ironically want to destroy the internet for this reason. The mass famines and and social-economic collapse that would result might even be good for us in the long term.

[Anonymous No.10678701]

>>10678674
Now say this in a youtube video and rake in that ad revenue champ

[Anonymous No.10678705]

>>10678326
>mfw he actually comes out on top

[Anonymous No.10678716]

>>10678698
Start a commune. Make up your own language. Create a series of rituals so weird and so esoteric government organizations spying on you will be unable to penetrate them. Accumulate weapons and cash. Rob banks. Start your own proto-nation. Make many babies with many women. Teach your children only your language you created.

This is how we will save the world from balkanization! WARLORDS HOOOOOOOO

[Anonymous No.10678739]

>>10678655
Sargon is reactionary and stupid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmKGPRXE-xw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aL_vIqMiHK0

[Anonymous No.10678761]

>>10678739

>Sargon is reactionary

If by reactionary, you mean trying to hold up dead principles and have no basis in reality, then yeah I guess. I'm pretty sure you're just a far-left retard though. You're the reason he even has a platform in the first place.

>is stupid

Yeah true

[Anonymous No.10678770]

>>10678739

Like if you think reactionary means not persecuting white people enough you'd hate what actual reactionaries think

[Anonymous No.10678778]

>>10678761
>I'm pretty sure you're just a far-left retard though

Puny human, I do not belong on your shitty political compass.
My chess is multidimensional
it's intentional
My dick is long
and my songs is influential
you mental

[Anonymous No.10678779]

>>10678770
shut the fuck up

[Anonymous No.10678790]

>>10678779
He's not me btw I'm
>>10678778
>>10678739
>>10678716
>>10678701
>>10678689
>>10678668


which proves I am clearly the thread genius as my posts have the most sense to them and spice as well

>>10678779
This guy is just a big league loser impersonating me

[Anonymous No.10678881]

Where does the Loki meme come from?

[Anonymous No.10679267]

>>10678705
It just shows what a fucking brainlette sargon is. Anglin is a fucking moron and even he gets the better of him.

Youtube commentators are talk radio tier, bunch of fucking idiots appealing to angry teens and 20somethings instead of angry dads.

[Anonymous No.10679276]

>>10678326
who wants to sit through 5 hours of youtubers autistically flailing at each other?

[Anonymous No.10679320]

>>10678668
>pro-idpol
oh, so you're just a "leftist" useful idiot for the right.

[Anonymous No.10679329]

>>10678779

lol retard league response

[Anonymous No.10679337]

>>10678326
I repeat: YouTube was a mistake.

[Anonymous No.10679401]

YouTube eceleb posters should be strung up by their ankles and beaten with hardcovers of the meme trilogy. Oh and Banned, they should be banned too.

[Anonymous No.10679438]

John Locke
Thomas Jefferson
Algernon Sidney
Alexander Hamilton
Samuel Johnson the Whig
HL Mencken

[Anonymous No.10679537]

>>10678634
didn't we already do that in the 90s?

[Anonymous No.10679543]

>>10678088

I hate liberals as much as I hate right-wingers.

t. Communist

Not even joking.

[Anonymous No.10679601]

>>10679543
I hate liberals MORE than I hate right-wingers

[Anonymous No.10679620]

>>10678668
actually im just a libertarian stalinist

[Anonymous No.10679631]

>>10678088
more like ITT: no literature

[Anonymous No.10679646]

>>10679601
>liberals are not left-wing

Americans ruin everything. You can't even call things by their name.

[Anonymous No.10679653]

>>10679537
it's all a cycle we can't escape from.

[Anonymous No.10679661]

>>10679601
butt ugly cartoon desu

[Adélaïde No.10679669]

From JS Mill, On Liberty... to Ayn Rand, The Fountainhead <3

[Anonymous No.10679691]

>>10679646
>Americans ruin everything
I imagine a wailing child with a europoor flag in the background whenever I see these words

[Anonymous No.10679730]

>>10678674
People did the same before the Internet you fagggot! Now they can just do it with people all over the world. I watch the bloodsports for entertainment. If it's not for you, then move the fuck on. Your bitterness is cringy af

[Anonymous No.10679757]

>>10679646
not that guy but liberal/conservative should be a different axis from left/right and libertarian/authoritarian

[Anonymous No.10681685]

>>10679438
Good poast

[Anonymous No.10681732]

>>10679601
>Watergate was nothing but show trials
>legtimatly defending Nixon

I thought Garrison was retarded but god damn.

[Anonymous No.10681738]

>>10681732
That's wiener redditard

[Anonymous No.10681744]

>>10679757
Liberalism is centrism, the ideology is made of taking all things in balance.

[Anonymous No.10681751]

>>10681744
>posting these charts unironically

[Anonymous No.10682058]

>>10681744
>National socialism on the left
>Anarchism on the right
>Totalitarianism as an ideology
fucking hell this chart god damn read some Arendt ffs

[Anonymous No.10682088]

wouldn't the YouTube meme be a good starting point for /lit/?
Whinging about newfags aside, they are getting people to read more classics.
Memerson got me out of the sci-fi ghetto, and browsing these threads got me to read some of the Greeks. I'm reading Jung now and enjoying it.

It would be cool to have lists or image macros for the books that inspire people like him, so people could see where the underlying ideas come from rather than listen to him parrot them off.

[Anonymous No.10682092]

Sargon is hilariously stupid. All of them are but Sargon especially so because he tries so hard to look smart.

[Anonymous No.10682095]

>>10681744
>progressivism is center right
wut

[Anonymous No.10682098]

Is he going to be okay?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfFai-0hqH0

[Anonymous No.10682161]

>>10682098
alt-DOWN with the alt-right!!!!!!

[Anonymous No.10682178]

I'm assuming this is relevant?

[Anonymous No.10682280]

Everyone itt should stop watching pseudtubers before their brain rots away.

[Anonymous No.10682377]

>>10682098
alt right niggers eternally BTFO

[Anonymous No.10682384]

>>10678088
so even /lit/ thinks being a liberal means your an sjw faggot and a communist ?
sad

[Anonymous No.10682388]

>>10682377
T H I C C

[Anonymous No.10682392]

>>10682384
Liberalism is far worse.

[Anonymous No.10682398]

>>10682384

His faggotry transcends politics

[Anonymous No.10682403]

>>10682392
i always thought being a liberal was the way to go. meaning you live and let people live and dont bother anyone and just get by going your own way and minding your own business.
how is that bad ?

[Anonymous No.10682405]

>>10682384
There's been a lot of /pol/-crossboarders recently

[Anonymous No.10682407]

>>10682377
sargon has a nice ass no homo

[Anonymous No.10682410]

>>10682384
being a liberal in on itself means nothing when you dont apply it to a timeframe

[Anonymous No.10682418]

>>10682403

This is your brain on Youtubers

[Anonymous No.10682426]

>>10682398
>>10682405
>>10682410

i want to know your answers to my other post which is this one
>>10682403
i really want to understand this need to be in an authoritarian state of living. im obviously missing something and i want to know what that is

[Anonymous No.10682434]

>>10682426
>i want to know your answers to my other post which is this one

Based on your writing ability I can know with certainty that nothing useful will come out of a conversation with you. You're a simpleton.

[Anonymous No.10682435]

>>10682426
>i really want to understand this need to be in an authoritarian state
change is bad for the people who have to live through it, the present is uncertain and scary so nobody knows what will happen next. autoritarians provide a fake sense of safety, thats the core of every issue right now

[Anonymous No.10682440]

>>10682426
You want me to spell out the pathology of the /pol/tard?

[Anonymous No.10682441]

>>10682403
Absolute delusion. The only good liberal is a dead liberal.

[Anonymous No.10682451]

>>10682435
if its a fake sense of safety why is it better ?
>>10682440
please do so

[Anonymous No.10682454]

>>10682441
now thats a thought. could you expand on why you think anyone should be dead ?

[Anonymous No.10682458]

>>10682435
this pretty much. the decline of the middle class, stagnant wages, offshoring / outsourcing, automation, immigration, have caused westerners to have a negative view of their economic future. most people in developed nations believe their childrens' lives will be worse than their own. anti-status quo candidates who promise change get their support.

[Anonymous No.10682461]

>>10682451
i never made an argument of it being good or badm i was just answeing your question
promising people you will protect them from the future is always an empty promise

[Anonymous No.10682463]

>>10682454

Stop hitting the spacebar before the question mark.

[Anonymous No.10682465]

>>10682426
Liberalism is authoritarian btw
>>10682454
Kill the Greek in the child

[Anonymous No.10682468]

>>10682454
theyre a butthurt marxist who'll then pretend that every communist nation devolving into a murderous nightmare society has nothing to do with their ideology.

[Anonymous No.10682475]

>>10682458
>anti-status quo candidates who promise change get their support.
>claiming its an anti status quo thing when obama happenned
its an everyobe thing, everyone makes that promise, everyone fails to keep it, thats why you dont vote for safety, its just another thing the state has never been able to provide but always claimed to be successful at regardless

[Anonymous No.10682476]

>>10682463
okay
will you answer my question nonetheless?

[Anonymous No.10682480]

>>10682476

No I won't. Now start capitalizing the first letter of the first word of every sentence.

[Anonymous No.10682484]

>>10682468
I'm not a Marxist

[Anonymous No.10682488]

>>10682475
no, some candidates are more status quo than others.

[Anonymous No.10682495]

>>10682488
dont you think its a little ironic how the candidate who promised change did the opposite of changing things and the candidate who promised stability is making everyone unstable?

[Anonymous No.10682496]

>>10682465
idk what kill the greek in the child means. as i am a major brainlet. so if it means some big knowledge only expert /li/-izens have access to then i apologize for my ignorance.
>>10682461
still there must be a reason why people here are so right leaning no? even if the promise is empty if this fact is so apparent they must know that no? so there must be something else there besides being edgy.
>>10682468
i see. so basically the marxists are to blame for everything that is wrong today. what could be done to repair this state ?

[Anonymous No.10682500]

>>10682496
>still there must be a reason why people here are so right leaning no? even if the promise is empty if this fact is so apparent they must know that no? so there must be something else there besides being edgy.
you didnt get a single thing i said

[Anonymous No.10682505]

>>10682500
it would seem i did not. explain to me like im 5

[Anonymous No.10682514]

>>10682495
obama and trump both promised change.

mccain was viewed as a continuation of bush, with little to say about the financial crisis as it was occurring during the election. clinton was viewed as a continuation of obama, with little to say about solving anybody's economic problems.

[Anonymous No.10682517]

>>10682496
>marxists are to blame for everything that is wrong today

no. and youre bad at the socratic method.

[Anonymous No.10682520]

>>10682495
>dont you think its a little ironic how the candidate who promised change did the opposite of changing things
What are you, 16? Candidates always do this since the system they are in can't reform as effectively and efficiently as they want even if they are earnest

[Anonymous No.10682522]

>>10682517
look you dont have to pull any punches with me as i dont respond to 4chan insults at all.
i just really want to get up to speed on political issues and if you suggest to go to /pol/ for that id tell you to take a look at whats happening there.
i live in a country where there are no niggers no jews and its good for everyone. so naturally i dont know the struggles of all the other anons in the world.

[Anonymous No.10682524]

>>10678088
sargon never heard of that polygon

[Anonymous No.10682527]

>>10678689

Go to bed, Bill Burr

[Anonymous No.10682530]

>>10682522
>i live in a country where there are no niggers no jews and its good for everyone
What country?

[Anonymous No.10682532]

>>10682530
Hungary

[Anonymous No.10682536]

>>10682522
i was explaining why someone would post that liberals should be killed. that's a far leftist meme. much like joking about the gulags is a meme of theirs.

all problems are not due to a single cause. the world is more complex than that.

[Anonymous No.10682538]

>>10682532
>Hungary
>good for everyone

[Anonymous No.10682542]

>>10682505
democracy is pointless
control is an ilussion
politics follow culture
so you are not voting for people to be in control and you are not voting to be represented, you are already represented by everything you do and the goverment only ever reacts to that, unless its a tiranny.
And thats the only thing the government should do and its the only thing it can do so when they promise they will change something or keep people safe they are lying, no government has the power to do either thing
look at the war on terror, look at the war on drugs, look at the economy, look at crime, look at racial tensions, they have proven time and time again their ineptitude

[Anonymous No.10682543]

>>10678790

that tattoo would look better on a more masculine body. That fag is a weak-ass skinny-fat.

[Anonymous No.10682550]

>>10682536
obviously when people here tell someone to die its just a joke as we are not subhuman niggers who kill people out of joy.
but i am curious there must be some way to fix everything where everyone can be happy no ?
or is that a childish dream of mine ? and if it is then how do we come to the conclusion of which people get to be well off and which people dont. is it basically just a survival of the fittest and we are all monkeys? that would be sad

[Anonymous No.10682552]

>>10682514
because trump was usurping the throne when hillary was the rightful heir so of course anything he does will be controversial and cause outrage
but if you look past that what he actually promised people is a return to tradition

[Anonymous No.10682558]

>>10682542
i doubt its ineptitude as much as conflicting interests.

the war on a terror is one of the greatest casus bellis and justification for the military industrial complex.

the war on the drugs is much the same, except for private prisons and enforcement.

the economy is doing great for the rich, which is who the government represents.

crime has been on the decline since the early 90s.

racial tensions are exacerbated by the media, conflict drives ratings.

[Anonymous No.10682560]

>>10682542
so what am i supposed to do with this piece of information ? basically everonye is fucked no matter what in the end ?

[Anonymous No.10682576]

>>10682550
youd be surprised. theres a lot of hatred growing, both on the left and right.

im not sure what the solution is. the most successful nations are the nordic social democracies, which have extensive welfare to ensure no one falls into the abyss. though theyre also well developed and homogeneous.

i would limit immigration to only skilled peoples, heavily invest in free education and infrastructure, then fund various social services from economic growth.

[Anonymous No.10682579]

>>10682560
stop freaking out every time your candidate loses is a good start
realize that you are more free than you thought
realize that the real threat doesnt come from the people who want political power but from those who seek to engineer people
demand that the goverment adresses only real tangible things and not some terrorists that only exist in another continentor some prophecy about cars causing the end of the world

[Anonymous No.10682587]

>>10682558
the point is that they where never able to control any of that
they couldnt even ban alcohol
tell me one single thing they got rid of since they got rid of the brits

[Anonymous No.10682595]

>>10682552
trump on the campaign trail was significant departure from the standard republican platform. he promised protectionism, criticized wall street, said he'd break up entrenched washington interests, was far harsher on immigration than any other candidate in recent history

you could say he's reactionary, but that's still a form of change.

[Anonymous No.10682602]

>>10682595
>you could say he's reactionary, but that's still a form of change.
you have no idea what you're talking about senpai

[Anonymous No.10682603]

>>10682587
injuns

[Anonymous No.10682610]

>>10682579
>stop freaking out every time your candidate loses
not american but the rest of your point is sound.

[Anonymous No.10682616]

>>10682602
change is not only the untried. if we reverted back to feudalism that'd be a pretty damn big change.

[Anonymous No.10682621]

>>10682595
but thats not what people saw in him
what people wanted, and we know who voted for him and made an impact, was a return to a simpler life
and you cant say life hasnt gotten way more complicated in recent years
people are afraid of migrants, robots, corrupt people who have money and power without directly owning anything
we are practically living in a science fiction novel

[Anonymous No.10682629]

>>10682621
the primary issue is that many people are suffering economically.

life has always been getting more complicated. if youre not stressing about how to pay your rent or afford healthcare, then its easy to deal with.

[Anonymous No.10682650]

>>10682629
>the primary issue is that many people are suffering economically.
the people who are suffering economically are a minority
i say fear of suffering economically is a bigger factor, thats what keeps democrats in check, nothing you do will prevent people from thinking fuck, shit, im next.
Also its not only the middle class shrinking but the upper class is getting bigger, its always a good thing to try to see the big picture

[Anonymous No.10682652]

>>10682629
yeah ok nick
get it together man

[Anonymous No.10682657]

>>10678331
"Skeptic community" is just rebranded New Atheism.

[Anonymous No.10682666]

>>10682603
longest war in american history by the way

[Anonymous No.10682680]

>>10682650
fear is involved, but its already been happening.

only 39% of americans can afford a $1000 emergency

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/18/few-americans-have-enough-savings-to-cover-a-1000-emergency.html

58% of americans believe their childrens' financial futures will be worse, the uk and other western nations are even more grim

http://www.pewglobal.org/database/indicator/74/survey/19/response/Worse+off/

a declining middle class with a growing upper class is describing worsening inequality. which harms social cohesion and trust.

[Anonymous No.10682697]

>>10682680
>only 39% of americans can afford a $1000 emergency
maybe thats because people favoured debt over savings? im sure that the massive influx of cheap foreing products and the money hungry banks had a lot to do with it but ultimately people chose this
>58% of americans believe their childrens' financial futures will be worse, the uk and other western nations are even more grim
people used to belive that if you sailed too far you would end up falling off the earth
>a declining middle class with a growing upper class is describing worsening inequality
think about it for a second and reply back to me

[Anonymous No.10682712]

>>10682697
these are some terrible responses friend.

wages have been stagnant for the past several decades. its not a surprise that debt is their recourse.

its not an unreasonable belief. worsening income inequality, stagnant wages, automation, rising healthcare/housing/education costs. people are right to believe their children will be worse off.

and look up america's gini index compared to other advanced nations.

[Anonymous No.10682717]

>>10682680
>only 39% of americans can afford a $1000 emergency

How many of those people buy scratch tickets?

[Anonymous No.10682721]

>>10682532
ahahahaha fuck man

[Anonymous No.10682737]

>>10682697
>ANON 1: the people who are suffering economically are a minority
>ANON 2: only 39% of americans can afford a $1000 emergency
>ANON 1: ultimately people chose this
don't hurt yourself moving dem goalposts

[Anonymous No.10682750]

>>10682712
ok lets start with the obvious
i wonder where these new upper class people are coming from
maybe if there is less middle class people and more upper class people that means that thinking your kids have less chances now is moronic
if there is less class mobility its centralised entirely on lower class people, probably because of the massive influx of higly educated people in the market pushing them away
which of course is going to cause wages to become stagnant but that only means class mobility takes longer not that it happens any less
>rising healthcare/housing/education costs
healthcare costs are a valid concern
housing is just a bubble because they are stringing along a bunch of people gentrifying areas, its a scam.
education its its own thing, its only getting more expensive because its becoming more and more pointless, most people in university dont need to go to university and dont benefit from it

[Anonymous No.10682755]

>>10682737
do you call getting a new iphone every year suffering economically?
people are only in debt because they consume too much

[Anonymous No.10682795]

>>10682737
>only 39% of americans can afford a $1000 emergency
>ONLY 39% OF AMERICANS CAN AFFORD A $1000 EMERGENCY
>WHILE 80% OF THE WORLD MAKES LESS THEN $2 A DAY

[Anonymous No.10682836]

>>10678674
The worst ones are "historians" who google everything and have never touched an academic source. And then it's always shit like "why don't video games do vikings right?"
>>10678369
I hate it because it's not even politics, it's gossip. Reporting on twitter feuds and celebrities talking about Trump and shit.

[Anonymous No.10682841]

>>10682527
>Bill Burr
There's a guy I'm really tired of. Every time I see him now he's just bitching about how the crowd doesn't like the jokes and that it's their fault. At some point it stops being "sensitivity" and starts being bombing sets.

[Anonymous No.10682849]

>>10678686
>anybody smart on the right
So nobody?

[Anonymous No.10683129]

>>10682841
It really is the crowd. It's not just Burr and it's not just for stand-up.

[Anonymous No.10683407]

>>10678088
Whoa... So this is the power of the skeptic community...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCvyg679bsg

[Anonymous No.10683410]

>>10678674
This

[Anonymous No.10683914]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxN2iDmrZtU

[Anonymous No.10684235]

>>10682058
Socialism is left-wing though, isn't it?

[Anonymous No.10684245]

>>10684235

Yeah but we pretend the Nazi's were Republicans anyway

[Anonymous No.10684279]

>>10682795
>what is relative wealth?
>>10682755
>do you call getting a new iphone every year suffering economically?
I call it a fox news meme you believe like the brainlet you are

[Anonymous No.10684281]

>>10678625
Edgy teenage totalitarianism

[Anonymous No.10684316]

>>10684235
national socialism is socialist like a titmouse is a mouse with tits

[Anonymous No.10684409]

>>10682384
Liberalism is unironically the most cancerous ideology. It's hold on the western zeitgeist needs to go.

[Anonymous No.10684803]

>>10678625
Accelerationism

[Anonymous No.10685012]

>>10684235
Wanting to rebuild Prussia to its former empire and glory is left wing and socialist?

[Anonymous No.10685050]

>>10678634
that was the 90s

[Anonymous No.10685397]

Classical liberalism is such a failed revolutionary ideology it's not even funny, even anarcho-capitalism is more realistic. It's proven by history that there's no such thing as a "minimal state", sovereignty is uncontrollable, the results of its application in today's world won't result in anything but "neoliberalism". Illuminism was a mistake, it attacked the only thing holding society together and saving souls: Catholicism. Illuminism was the source for all modern trash including rationalism, skepticism, socialism, nationalism, liberalism, humanism, etc. It began before that though, with protestantism, and even before that, with the start of separation between Church and imperial powers. But these things were inevitable since there's an end to history, to which we're pretty close.

[Anonymous No.10685412]

>>10685397
And of course americans are totally blind to this, since their country was founded by freemasons based on this trash. Their history began in the 18th century and they can't look past it. They are doomed to drown in their shit.

[Anonymous No.10685417]

>>10685397
>Humanism was the result of the Enlightenment

[Anonymous No.10685426]

>>10685417
Did you read the whole post? I said it began way before that, with the renaissance. However, it only took a solid form and expansion with illuminism.

[Anonymous No.10685695]

>>10678326
>Sargon and his lapdog Vee banished to the shadow realm by Nazis

It's like I'm watching a bizarre episode of Fate/Stay

[Anonymous No.10685704]

>>10678625
The 2010s were edgy liberal politics.
2020s will be the decade of literal fascism.

By 2030 Youtube will be nationalized by the Reich.

[Anonymous No.10686417]

>>10678508
Jefferson says some mean things about blacks in one section.

[Anonymous No.10686812]

>>10682841
and you know what he's tired of? His wife not taking a paternity test. #BillBurrBlackBaby

[Anonymous No.10686904]

Yes yes well done Sargon, well done HOWEVER

[Anonymous No.10687011]

>>10679543
>Communist

how embarrassing

[Anonymous No.10687036]

>>10685704
corporate fascism? yeah i agree

[Anonymous No.10687048]

>>10686904
this just confirms what I've been saying. Sargon's viewcount is botted up

[Anonymous No.10687048,1]

>>10679646
>Americans are the ones who think liberals are left

0/10 troll harder

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » No.10687048,2]

>>10687048,1
What part do you not understand?
Liberals stand for capitalism. Free markets, land ownership, that whole thing.

"Progressive liberals" co-opted the U.S. socialist movement of over a hundred years ago, salvaged capitalism during the FDR administration (where they picked up the name New Deal Democrats) In Europe they are simply called social-democrats, and they're middle of the road compromisers. Meeting socialist reformers halfway and making Europe into what it is today. Strong unionism, a comfy social safety-net... But not still capitalist. IE not left. Merely left capitalism. A mostly duplicitous attempt to sanitize the systemic rot of capitalism.

The real left take exception at the mislabeling campaign. We are unified against capital.

[« Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ » No.10687048,3]

>>10687048,2
>But still capitalist. IE not left.
Misplaced the "not" of course.

[Anonymous No.10687048,4]

>>10679320
things that only white people say