/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.10627723]

This fucking guy... what a terrible person.

Every one of their videos involves purposely misinterpreting writers and using oversimplified conclusions to push their agenda.

The video on Nietzsche is just inaccurate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHWbZmg2hzU

I can just imagine some fucker watching that and thinking he now understands his works.

[Anonymous No.10627728]

>>10627723
Literally just the Leftist version of Peterson

[Anonymous No.10627731]

They make us watch these in my phil courses.

[Anonymous No.10627732]

It's sad that for thousands of kids this is the only portal they have into philosophy.

[Anonymous No.10627734]

>reads Wikipedia of philosopher
>creates line of thinking
>philosopher
>human
>human desire
>human desire to be dominated sexually
>so just like let someone spit on you if you love them
>posts video

[Anonymous No.10627739]

>school of life is up there with david attenborough

hahahahhahahahahhaha

[Anonymous No.10627744]

>>10627731
He's generally accurate in his readings even if they're all calibrated towards his personal cult.
I wouldn't use them but you could do worse if you're dealing with total greenhorn normies

[Anonymous No.10627751]

Here's an experiment.

Go listen to a video, don't watch it, just ignore the production and listen to it. Write down the main points.

wowitsfuckingnothing.png

[Anonymous No.10627755]

His Hegel video was an embarassment to the notion of research in general and made me furious for about three hours; 800,000+ idiots tuned into the desecration of a prophets legacy
Alan the Bottom is the only man I have wished physical harm onto
If I was lucky enough to meet him in person I would clasp his flimsy shoulders firmly and breath angry I want him to know what he did to me

[Anonymous No.10627759]

>>10627731
NO NO NO FUCK NO ITS WORSE THAN I THOUGHT I NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THSI IM THE ONLY WHO CAN I NEED TO PROTECT HEGEL

[Anonymous No.10627762]

I started watching him like last year and didn't carry on very long. If there was ever a feels>reals with production value, it would be Alain

[Anonymous No.10627765]

>>10627755
I genuinely think people like you react like this because your own understanding is so weak that a four minute infograph actually brings people to your level

[Anonymous No.10627777]

>>10627765
>doesn't know the first or second thing about Hegel
>hasn't seen Alan's video on him
Not the anon but I just watched the video and it's literally the wiki for dialectic turned into pop phil self help, he didn't even mention Spirit or Negation or mutual self-consciousness; that wasn't a video about Hegel

[Anonymous No.10627783]

>>10627777
Sure whatever, my point is why give a shit? Its trough for the pigs

[Anonymous No.10627796]

>>10627777
>pop phil self help
all his videos that I've seen (again because they make us watch them in phil courses) seem to fit that description. He turns everything into self-help. I think that's why he's so popular.

[Anonymous No.10627797]

>>10627783
>why give a shit?
Why give a shit about literature or history? Fool

[Anonymous No.10627799]

>>10627723
>Dionysian
>hates alcohol
Was Nietzsche the School Of Life of his time? Seriously, this is really embarrassing. How can anyone this stupid be a philosopher? I mean, his philosophy is basically shit anyways, but having this contradiction on top of the others...
SAD!

[Anonymous No.10627806]

>>10627799
>Dionysian
You do not understand Nietzsche's specialized use of that term. For an extended explanation see Walter Kaufmann's "Nietzsche: Philospher, Psychologist, Antichrist"

[Anonymous No.10627809]

>>10627797
Because those things actually matter.
Functional illiterates flicking through Facebook getting a wrong idea about Hegel is of no consequence

[Anonymous No.10627815]

>>10627809
>Functional illiterates flicking through Facebook getting a wrong idea about Hegel is of no consequence
They use these in college to. I've had professors introduce philosopher's by showing us this guy's videos. This wasn't a one time thing.

[Anonymous No.10627816]

>>10627806
Give me the cliffs bruh

[Anonymous No.10627826]

>>10627816
You do not deserve an explanation, but since I am generous: In his later writing (Birth of Tragedy is a different story), Dionysian basically = a fusion of Apollonian and Dionysian. When he says Dionysian he's talking about an "exalted" form that's a fusion of both ways of being. That's a simple version.

[Anonymous No.10627827]

>>10627809
You don't understand what philosophy is, or was.

[Anonymous No.10627834]

>>10627826
>>10627827
Dude get off your fucking high horse.

[Anonymous No.10627840]

>>10627834
Two different posters

[Anonymous No.10627841]

>>10627806
What's so complex about it? It's controlled frenzy, he hates over-rationalisation, yet subsumes Dionysus to over-rationalisation - all with a strange fallacy at its core. He's just a sober fool who can't hold his liquor.

[Anonymous No.10627848]

>>10627841
He believes both the Dionysian and the Apollonisian are profound/sublime and he does not want to commit to one at the expense of the other. Also Apollonisian =! only rationalization.

In any case, he both couldn't drink alcohol for medical reasons, and he considered the drinking culture of Germany vulgar so he wouldn't want to be associated with it.

[Anonymous No.10627877]

>>10627827
I've a degree in philsophy you retard. I'm just not a touchey little pimp who cares what depressed office workers fill their four minute timeslots with

[Anonymous No.10627881]

>>10627815
The problem there is the shitty college

[Anonymous No.10627890]

>>10627881
>College is shitty
>Therefore nothing else is also shitty
These things aren't mutually exclusive you contrarian faggot

[Anonymous No.10627892]

>>10627848
Sounds like sour grapes.

[Anonymous No.10627900]

>>10627732
>It's sad that for thousands of kids this is the only portal they have into philosophy.
>It's sad
But the average kid is wiser than the average academic philosopher.

[Anonymous No.10627908]

>>10627892
If grapes could be retarded you would be retarded grapes.

[Anonymous No.10627911]

>>10627900
define average

[Anonymous No.10627912]

>>10627900
I'd really like to hear you explain this one.

>>10627892
Punny!

[Anonymous No.10627914]

>>10627890
Did I ever say the videos aren't shitty?
I'm saying get your fucking priorities straight

[Anonymous No.10627923]

>>10627900
lol true bro those fucking leftists don't even clean their rooms

[Anonymous No.10627927]

>>10627826
>>10627848
You're actually awful at explaining things.

[Anonymous No.10627928]

>>10627914
My priorities are straight. I know what I believe and I stand by it. I wholeheartedly believe in limited forms of censorship. I believe that that guy should be censored from college campuses because he dumbs them down. Just because my priorities aren't your priorities doesn't mean my priorities aren't "straight".

[Anonymous No.10627933]

>>10627877
>>I've a degree in philsophy you retard.
>"philosophy doesn't matter"
>spends thousands for a degree in it
Who's the real retard here?

[Anonymous No.10627934]

>>10627900
You're actually right, but I can't escape the feeling that you're a retard

[Anonymous No.10627935]

>>10627927
Ok.

[Anonymous No.10627942]

>>10627928
The Bottom is just the tip of the Jew iceberg. Our priorities are the same I just think he's beneight your attention

[Anonymous No.10627947]

>>10627934
>t.16 year old

[Anonymous No.10627954]

>>10627911
I mean common.

>>10627912
>I'd really like to hear you explain this one.
Kids don't try to explain things and don't imagine they understand things, and they listen to their elders. Also, the average academic philosopher is a mere historian of mummified ideas; he is not a contemplative of Ideas in the Platonic sense.

>>10627923
Good point, even if you're being facetious.

[Anonymous No.10627958]

>>10627933
i have a degree in physics i couldn't give a fuck if the average person has no idea about subatomic particles but wants to watch some silly youtube video talking about the higgs boson

what matters is that they care about learning instead. much better than most kids today that listen to hip hop and go outside to act like apes.

[Anonymous No.10627966]

>>10627954
so being ignorant is wise?

[Anonymous No.10627969]

>>10627954
>they listen to their elders
What alternate universe do you live in? Must be pretty nice. In our universe rebellion against parents/authority has been normalized by culture and on television. Perhaps they don't have television in your universe. It's difficult to explain. It's like this magic box with pictures on it.

[Anonymous No.10627971]

>>10627723
>6 minute format to teach you about a philosopher and all of his works
this is the problem with "quick" learning, sumaries, etc. the same fucking faggots using sparknotes in college instead of reading the book. channels like this promote mental retardation.
>hurr quick and easy Nietzsche! only 5 minutes and u learn who he is!! wow that's convenient!
convenience and serious study don't go together

[Anonymous No.10627975]

>>10627958
But you would care if they completely misexplained the subject of physics they covered and spread disinformation to people who will never know any better, but will think they do. That's the point, I get the feeling you're lying anyway

[Anonymous No.10627981]

>>10627975
>That's the point, I get the feeling you're lying anyway

This is your brain on self teaching

[Anonymous No.10627987]

This is one of the worse threads I've ever seen on this board. Literally youtube comment level discourse by people I can only hope are underage

[Anonymous No.10627994]

>>10627966
>so being ignorant is wise?
Indeed, read Plato.

>>10627969
By kids I was thinking more 6 year olds than 16.

[Anonymous No.10628006]

>>10627994
>By kids I was thinking more 6 year olds than 16.
I see. However, it's not unusual for kids like that to be snot nosed brats these days. Most parents are very weak.

[Anonymous No.10628013]

>>10627975
inaccurate physics might lead to some misconceptions, that's not the end of the world. misconceptions are everywhere anyway. the problem with school of life is that their inaccuracies are used to create propaganda. that's not your argument though, your argument is that somehow knowledge should be both complete and accurate in all fields otherwise you're an idiot. nice you sure are someone we should all look up to.

[Anonymous No.10628023]

Scientist: "science is important!"
Philosophy student: "everyone should learn philosophy!"
Programmer: "we should teach every kid how to code!"

Fuck outta here nothing is important just learn whatever you're interested in.

Being a good person is important you fucking pseuds.

[Anonymous No.10628028]

>>10628013
>your argument is that somehow knowledge should be both complete and accurate in all fields otherwise you're an idiot.
Literally what are you on about. It must be odd to live with those kind erratic leaps on straw

[Anonymous No.10628030]

>>10628023
>Dude just do whatever Xd

Kill yourself mightily

[Anonymous No.10628031]

>this whole discussion
Dunning-Kruger effect: the thread

[Anonymous No.10628033]

>>10628031
no u

[Anonymous No.10628036]

>>10628028
you literally believe that it's wrong for somebody to watch a short introductory video on science or philosophy and that these people should just all go read dense books because these topics are important to our life

you british sack of shit

[Anonymous No.10628038]

>>10628031
>heheh everyones stupid but me

[Anonymous No.10628050]

>>10628031
/r/iamverysmart

[Anonymous No.10628074]

>>10628036
Walk up the comment chain and see the only implications I ever made were from
>>10627777
Which is not the case, you sound drunk or teenager, or both

[Anonymous No.10628182]

>>10627755
>>10627777
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
if this hegel video is bad then witch one am I supposes to watch?

[Anonymous No.10628196]

>>10628182
You need to watch the Sandman

[Anonymous No.10628318]

>>10627723
>makes video on Aquinas
>lol dude Aquinas was like a christian scientist and shiet dude faith and reason lmao
>doesn't even explain the quinque viae throughout the vid
I mean it's a 6 minute vid on youtube which is destined to the masses but this is just unjust

[Anonymous No.10628360]

>>10627732
kids don't have libraries?

[Anonymous No.10628365]

>>10628182
try this guide https://i.imgur.com/qzuCpZs.jpg

[Anonymous No.10628423]

>>10628360
By "only portal" I don't mean they have no other way of learning about philosophy. How is that not fucking obvious? If they're watching a video, then surely they have access to the internet... Having access doesn't mean they will go and use it. 99% libraries are fucking awful for philosophy anyway.

[Anonymous No.10628429]

>>10628360
i have no phil book in my (physical) library and i have yet to find one who has any

[Anonymous No.10628594]

>>10627723
ITT: Gatekeeping

I've watched a couple, and they pretty much boil an entire author/philosopher down to

>"[Author/Philosopher] thought that the meaning of life was ___"

It's a gross oversimplification and borders on misrepresentation, but what are you expecting from a 10 minute YouTube video made for people with no background in philosophy?

Just accept that they're made for people with a faint passing interest in philosophy, and just want to hear who this "Nietzsche guy" they keep coming across is and what he was all about, but don't really care enough to read the work itself.

It's like you're taking issue with someone attempting to have some knowledge of what you've built your identity around, so you'll gatekeep the fuck out of anything 'too accessible'.

[Anonymous No.10628638]

>>10627975
Not him, but this is the majority of discussion by people who aren't educated in music start talking about music. The constant false allusion to profundity or understanding when it's clearly lacking. This is made worse by fretplebs presenting themselves as an authority when they can't tell portamento from their assholes.

A good music man looks at music like an athlete watching another athlete, while an idiot holds them in reverence.

[Anonymous No.10628650]

>>10627728
>Literally no gap too narrow to crowbar in Peterson

[Anonymous No.10628657]

>>10628650
He's the definitive intellectual of our age of course he's going to apply

[Anonymous No.10628663]

>>10627783
>Sure whatever
Could you maybe stop coming here?

[Anonymous No.10628664]

>>10628594
>It's a gross oversimplification and borders on misrepresentation, but what are you expecting from a 10 minute YouTube video made for people with no background in philosophy?
I expect it to not be fucking made it in the first place. It's like if someone made a 10 min video called "explaining quantum physics" and made all sorts of dumbass claims like dude quantum physics it's like when you watch a particle it appears looooool and massive legion of huge retards swallowed it up because they need to feel intellectual (as if we didn't have enough problems with dunning kruger on the internet already). Stop tollerating this dumb shit.

[Anonymous No.10628666]

>>10627723
what's a good alternative? genuinely curious

[Anonymous No.10628672]

>lets condense incredibly complec philosophy into a few minutes of digestible and entertaining video that's meant pique interest in people that usually dont care for this
>/lit/ REEEESS continuously and doesnt get it's not for them

You're all fucking tryhard pseuds. Just keep reading and studying whatever it is you do, why does this channel bother you so much?

[Anonymous No.10628690]

>>10628074
EAT A DICK FAGGOT!

[Anonymous No.10628716]

>>10628672
>What do you mean feeding disinformation to ineducated retards in the age of rampant dunning kruger is a bad thing? Fugging bseuds :DDDDD

[Anonymous No.10628728]

>>10627783
please leave

[Anonymous No.10628753]

>>10628664
>I can just imagine some fucker watching that and thinking he now understands his works.

You wouldn't be genuinely upset unless you'd built a personal image around the dozens of hours you've put into pursuing philosophy. It's something that makes you an 'intellectual' and something the "legions" will never get, and the chance that they might erroneously put claim to it drives you up the wall.

You're the Nirvana fan asking "oh yeah? Name 5 of their songs."

[Anonymous No.10628759]

>>10628672
It's because people here define themselves through what they study. They have no personality outside of their bookshelf. That's why they are so offended, an insult to the subject they study is an insult to them as well.

[Anonymous No.10628760]

>>10628716

It's not a class you mong, It's a 5 minute video with the simplified gist that tries to extract self-help attributes and interpretations. It's not teaching the philosophy, rather how you can use it to "better yourself" It's not feeding misinformation. You sound like you subscribe to Alex Jones.

[Anonymous No.10628780]

>>10628753
Pure projection lad. All I'm saying is that it's bad because it creates legions of imbeciles who don't understand yet they think they understand. I'm not against divulgation at all, but it has to be done well (e.g. Sadler)
>You're the Nirvana fan asking "oh yeah? Name 5 of their songs."
Jesus fucking christ. Philosophy isn't a fucking rockband, it's a serious thing.
How would you feel if I started a youtube channel devoted to share facts about bodybuildining but got my facts wrong half the fucking time? Same thing.

[Anonymous No.10628798]

>>10628780
No one's writing a dissertation on these videos.

Their audience is someone who heard "Nietzsche" referenced on a TV show and want a rough idea on what he was about.

If anyone cared enough to go into more depth, there's free hour-long lectures out there, and public libraries.

It's a total non-issue, which is why what you're really upset about is the thought that "the masses" might think they understand your precious, impenetrable philosophy.

[Anonymous No.10628801]

ITT: Brainlets mad that a high IQ multi-millionaire using his PhD level knowledge of philosophy is using youtube to offer self-help videos to the masses

>muh misinterpretation

[Anonymous No.10628816]

>>10628666
three minute philosophy

[Anonymous No.10628833]

>>10628798
All right, you seem to be hellbent on creating a strawman of me based on some image of a smug philosophy guy you conjured up in your head for some fucking reason. Go ahead and do your thing.

[Anonymous No.10628843]

good video for this thread https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-WCz951EBc

[Anonymous No.10628923]

>>10628753
This is actually a good insight. I was angry when I saw the videos, but maybe it's because I don't like the idea that someone now thinks they know Hegel or Nietzsche after just 10 minutes, when I've had to spend hours and hours, and if were at a party both of us would have similar things to say (the conclusion) since you don't get to show off all the knowledge in general everyday conversation.

[Anonymous No.10628988]

>>10628594
dude 10 minutes is a lot of time but they use it entirely to repeat that main oversimplified idea

[Anonymous No.10630414]

>>10627723
I remember the first video I saw from that channel was about camus...he quickly dismissed a few philosophers due to their love life. "sexually unsuccessful schopenhauer" he said.
it's a decent channel for the daily swine to get a "cool" fast summary with nice pictures and "quirky" animation. perfect for the ADD generation that needs everything to be entertaining.

[Anonymous No.10630453]

>>10630414
>.he quickly dismissed a few philosophers due to their love life. "sexually unsuccessful schopenhauer"

[Anonymous No.10630495]

>>10630414
>"sexually unsuccessful schopenhauer"
Sounds like one of those monikers Trump devised for his opponents

[Anonymous No.10630615]

>>10630495
Trump would come up with something more simple and catchy than that. "low energy Jeb Bush", "lyin ted", "crooked hillary", "little rocket man", "sneaky diane", "little Marco", "1for38 kasich". he's a true savage

[Anonymous No.10630666]

>>10628594
>It's okay that it's shit because the format makes it impossible for it to not be shit. Pointing out said shitness is gatekeeping, and a reflection of some contrived personal inadequacy.
Or maybe you're just a dumb faggot.

[Anonymous No.10630691]

>>10628360
It's very difficult for many adults to know where to began, how to understand and to get anything out of philosophy, never mind children. Short videos are a lot simpler to understand and are more like to pique the interest of children than the prospect of reading ancient greek books.

[Anonymous No.10630693]

https://www.reddit.com/r/philosophy/comments/3c2dg9/a_critical_commentary_on_the_school_of_lifes/

[Anonymous No.10630704]

>>10630691
Now, if only said videos weren't garbage.

[Anonymous No.10630751]

>>10628798
How embarrassing

[Anonymous No.10631723]

>>10627739
my fucking sides xD

[Anonymous No.10631732]

I'll shit on School of Life here because it's reductionist pseud garbage, but then I'll watch it and combine it with Wikipedia because I am a pseud.