What does /lit/ think of Žižek?

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Anonymous Thu Feb 1 12:01:52 2018 No.10623016 [Reply] [Original]

What does /lit/ think of Žižek?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 12:03:23 2018 No.10623024 >>10623016 How do you pronounce his name again?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 12:03:51 2018 No.10623027 I like watching his videos. Never read any of his books. Has some interesting things to say, but I don't take him too seriously (i don't know very much about philosophy). Made me think about certain things in nee ways.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 12:04:37 2018 No.10623029 >>10623016 I could not make out a single coherent argument or statement in Pervert's Guide to Ideology.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 12:05:06 2018 No.10623032 He's my favourite sniffboi

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 12:11:10 2018 No.10623054 >>10623016 I think, judging from your pic related, that he hasn't slept in decades.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 12:13:16 2018 No.10623063 >>10623024 zi SNIFF zek

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 12:18:37 2018 No.10623080 >>10623016 He's got a talent for reframing discussion in a nonconventional way and a talent for selling himself. Other than that, I don't think he's said anything truly important.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 12:22:10 2018 No.10623084 >>10623016 ZE BELIFF THAT, UH "sniff"

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 12:35:09 2018 No.10623136 >>10623024 >>10623027 >>10623029 >>10623032 >>10623054 >>10623063 >>10623080 >>10623084 I meant his books have any of you read any of them?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 12:37:10 2018 No.10623144 >>10623136 I started reading Sublime Object of Ideology, but brainletted out because I didn't into Marx and Lacan first

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 12:37:43 2018 No.10623149 >>10623136 what's a book?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 12:39:37 2018 No.10623161 >>10623024 Jee Jack

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 12:41:23 2018 No.10623169 >>10623016 He's a fucking hack like anyone who bases his """"""""analysis"""""""" in psychoanalysis

Anonymous Thu Feb 1 12:43:40 2018 No.10623182
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>>10623136
i didn't find anything of interest in his books beyond a bunch of wacky, quirky disconnected ideas

haven't read everything by him but Absolute Recoil seemed the most focused book, i mean focused by Zizek standards, which is not much focused at all.

Sublime Object i guess you have to read it if you want to read the guy, the main idea of the book is pretty straightforward if you ignore the 1,000 irrelevant tangents he takes

if you like Sublime, then "For They Know Not What They Do" expands on pretty much the same kind of stuff

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 12:43:51 2018 No.10623183 >>10623169 Can you please expand? Not on zizek himself, but on your thoughs of psychoanalysis.

Anonymous Thu Feb 1 12:45:59 2018 No.10623191

>>10623144
where did you get lost? i remember the chapters in Sublime revolving each one around a separate clear idea, even if he takes a few meaningless tangents going nowhere

at that point he hadn't turned yet into the copy/paste fest of unrelated snippets that his next books would become

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 12:46:05 2018 No.10623194 >>10623182 Is it possible to understand him with no sociological baggage? I mean, I didn't even go through Marx.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 12:48:28 2018 No.10623206 File: 42 KB, 506x667, 1450577506495.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10623016 See the resemblance?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 12:50:09 2018 No.10623213 >>10623024 go to his wikipedia page and listen to how his name is pronounced you scrub >>10623024 idiot

Anonymous Thu Feb 1 12:50:45 2018 No.10623216

>>10623194
yes, you just may have to read some secondary texts, he doesn't get that deep into Marx in Sublime Object. Lacanian stuff may lose you a bit, you may read some of Bruce Fink's books to familiarize you with it. I personally find Lacan boring and pointless so never had any interest in digging deep into it beyond understanding Zizek's superficial terminology.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 12:51:20 2018 No.10623220 >>10623136 No, haven't read any of his work yet. I don't know his name either, tbqh.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 12:57:20 2018 No.10623245 >>10623216 I guess I will start with him first and try your recommendations when it gets cofusing. Thanks.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 13:01:54 2018 No.10623266 >>10623216 lacan for me is sincerely unreadable but i have to admit he didn’t write his lectures himself. some concepts i grabbed from people influenced by him seem on spot though. really interesting his takes on narratives and power.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 13:02:58 2018 No.10623271 >>10623054 that's cause he woke as fuck boi

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 13:03:30 2018 No.10623274 I want him in a conversation with Peterson

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 13:04:37 2018 No.10623279 >>10623274 they would agree on literally anything

Anonymous Thu Feb 1 13:05:14 2018 No.10623281

>>10623191
Honestly I couldn't tell you where I got lost, very early in the book. I'd just gone back to uni, and so had a tonne of other stuff to read, and trying to make my way through Zizek as slowly as I had to in order to understand it just wasn't worth it.

It seemed like it would be a breeze to understand with a little more background on his influences. But then I've also heard people say Zizek reinvents those thinkers so drastically that reading them only helps you understand him to a very limited extent

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 13:06:04 2018 No.10623285 >>10623274 why would you want to hear 2 grandstanders grandstand past each other? they are only fun when they intimidate some lesser beings into submission

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 13:06:21 2018 No.10623287 he's been replaced by peterson as /lit/'s choice of meme-tier intellectual with dubious Freudian offshoot interests

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 13:07:29 2018 No.10623293 File: 29 KB, 455x376, Funny-Laughing-Face-Picture.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10623287 funny because true

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 13:08:06 2018 No.10623296 he's my favourite right wing author

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 13:13:30 2018 No.10623319 >>10623016 sniffs the analyshish

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 13:14:36 2018 No.10623322 >>10623136 I've read Sublime Object of Ideology, Parallax View, Violence, and his Antigone

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 13:15:36 2018 No.10623325 >>10623271 Oh shit

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 13:51:05 2018 No.10623503 >>10623285 Really want to see the chemistry between those two.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 13:54:47 2018 No.10623517 >>10623503 not sure they speak even the same language

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 14:10:47 2018 No.10623577 Judging by what he has said about women, migrants, and Trump I'd say I don't want anything to do with him.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 14:14:06 2018 No.10623593 File: 33 KB, 250x347, 250px-Buddha_Beipu.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10623577 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwDrHqNZ9lo

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 14:15:44 2018 No.10623599 File: 64 KB, 487x524, 1516126153814.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10623577 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5yoqjABeBM

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 14:16:52 2018 No.10623603 >>10623577 >liking Trump >on lit

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 14:24:21 2018 No.10623651 >>10623603 What!? No! I fucking hate him. Zizek said he would vote for Trump, which is abhorrent.

Anonymous Thu Feb 1 14:25:55 2018 No.10623664

>>10623183
Not who you're responding to, but it's complete unempirical psuedoscience. Of course, being unscientific doesn't necessarily invalidate it from a philosophical standpoint. I haven't read Zizek so I don't know how it is that he uses it, but being a Marxist I'm going to assume he uses Freudian psychoanalysis, which has problems in and of itself. Freudian psychoanalysis is obviously based on the theories of Freud, many of which are just complete nonsense.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 14:28:32 2018 No.10623684 >>10623651 he tricked you, he can't vote in the us

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 14:30:02 2018 No.10623696 >>10623684 >would

Anonymous Thu Feb 1 14:35:51 2018 No.10623723

>>10623577
He seems pretty reasonably aware of both Trump and the migrant crisis, although I've never heard him speak on women. What's the problem? He realizes that the left is bungling the migrant crisis and that Trump is nothing more than an empty opportunist.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 14:52:06 2018 No.10623814 >>10623577 idiot neolib

Anonymous Thu Feb 1 15:41:42 2018 No.10624079

>>10623016
Anyone think that Destiny will be the next Zizek? They are doppelgangers:
>huge heads for their massive intellectual prowess
>tiny shoulders and overall body structure
>rationalising capabilities which baffle anyone below 150 IQ
Will Destiny become a post-ironic liberalist God Emperor?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 16:30:31 2018 No.10624311 >>10624079 What is this post even trying to say? Who's Destiny, what's a 'liberalist', and what does it have to do with Trump?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 17:00:04 2018 No.10624472 >>10623016 he has a few notable works and dozens and dozens of rehashed books (literally whole passages and pages lifted) that restate the same stuff

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 17:28:32 2018 No.10624604 >>10624079 yes, a guy who spends all his life playing league of legends or arguing with sub-110 iq brainlets and can't be bothered to read any philosophy is on his way to become a philosopher

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 17:48:11 2018 No.10624729 sniff

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 17:54:40 2018 No.10624774 File: 27 KB, 455x455, zizek.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] /ourguy/

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 18:42:23 2018 No.10625082 >>10623016 i would buy his books if they weren't so unreasonably expansive and i weren't so broke i tried youtube videos but it just sounded like incoherent rambling, maybe i'm just a brainlet

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 18:46:30 2018 No.10625111 >>10623016 i would buy his books if they weren't so unreasonably expensive and i weren't so broke i tried youtube videos but it just sounded like incoherent rambling, maybe i'm just a brainlet

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 18:50:40 2018 No.10625127 >>10624604 He's undefeated against Youtube's best. >Alt-Right fears him >Deep Centrists worship him >the Left pretends he doesn't exist >the Rothschilds bow to him

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 18:55:33 2018 No.10625150 >>10624311 >doesn't know who Destiny is Why ask any questions beyond this?

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 20:14:40 2018 No.10625608 >>10625150 Because the whole post sounds retarded. The only people I know named Destiny are black women, and I doubt a black woman is the next Zizek.

>>	Anonymous Thu Feb 1 20:15:42 2018 No.10625614 Is his kung-fu panda review any good?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 01:01:01 2018 No.10627180 >>10623651 > What!? No! Get a grip anon, this isn't /New Sincerity General/

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 01:02:51 2018 No.10627189 >>10623016 He's fucking ugly

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 01:03:54 2018 No.10627194 >>10623577 Kill yourself reddit

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 01:05:40 2018 No.10627200 >>10623271 not bad

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 01:10:54 2018 No.10627220 >>10623651 It was actually 78d chess in order to destroy capitalism through acceleration of the material dialectics.

Anonymous Fri Feb 2 01:24:38 2018 No.10627276

>>10623664
Hey Popper go suck a cock
The point of psychoanalysis is explaining things that can't be empircally analysed, the only thing you can see using empirical evidences is the reaction of the being on those concepts, but you can't explain it
Also, Zizek uses lacanian psychoanalysis, which is based on structural linguistics and hegelian epistemology (which is far superior than pure empiricism)

Anonymous Fri Feb 2 01:53:41 2018 No.10627378

>>10627276
>The point of psychoanalysis is explaining things that can't be empircally analysed
Psychoanalysis literally makes up the objects of its enquiry. This wouldn't be a problem if said objects were something actually abstract, like in maths or metaphysics, and not something material like the brain, on which psychoanalysis pretends to have an actual, empirical capacity to analize and cure (while not being rigorous in the slightest). Talking to an analyst isn't different from confessing to a priest.
>Also, Zizek uses lacanian psychoanalysis, which is based on structural linguistics and hegelian epistemology (which is far superior than pure empiricism)
Pure namedropping. Lacanian psychoanalysis is irrelevant in this day and age, and it has been btfo by D&G. Same as structuralism, which is a surpassed paradigm. And hegelian epistemology in the age of Heidegger? top kek.

Remember anon, machines, not metaphors.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 01:53:41 2018 No.10627379 File: 123 KB, 781x1024, charles.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10623016 He's hilarious. I love his 'proving the opposite of what you thought' shtick too.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 01:54:31 2018 No.10627381 >>10625614 It requires a deep Lacanian dialectical analysis to parse and so on and so on

Anonymous Fri Feb 2 01:56:40 2018 No.10627389

>>10627276
>The point of psychoanalysis is explaining things that can't be empircally analysed
its very far from phenomenology, which serves to what you just said. psychoanalisis has so much aprioris that its a whole construction on itself, a fiction basically.

Anonymous Fri Feb 2 01:59:09 2018 No.10627397

>>10623723
What migrant crisis? The crisis is in the countries they're fleeing. It's a political crisis because politicians want to give in to the right who want to basically send the migrants to be killed.
>>10627220
By getting millions of people killed? Yeah, no, doesn't sound like progress to me.

Anonymous Fri Feb 2 02:35:48 2018 No.10627519

>>10627220
i don't know where this meme came from, Hillary was obviously the accelerationist candidate. Trump was a reactionary candidate.

Acceleration is about accelerating global capitalist dynamics, not about doing things that will make local leftists mad like closing borders (not that Trump has done even that)

Anonymous Fri Feb 2 02:38:58 2018 No.10627529

>>10627378
>Lacanian psychoanalysis is irrelevant in this day and age, and it has been btfo by D&G.
My God, people unironically praise Deleuze
>And hegelian epistemology in the age of Heidegger?
Yeah of course, that nigger that rejects metaphysics and try to "change" for ontology but in the end it is just empty anthropology

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 02:39:29 2018 No.10627531 >>10627519 >Acceleration is about accelerating global capitalist dynamics GOP tax plan is about as accelerationist as possible, the next crash is going to get incredibly ugly

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 02:40:00 2018 No.10627534 >>10627529 I'm not gonna discuss this with a racist sorry.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 02:41:47 2018 No.10627538 >>10627389 It's not far from phenomenology, it studies the relation of the being with phenomenological stucture, what it does is that psychoanalysis doesnt use phenomenology as a way of analysing but something to analyse That what makes Lacan great

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 02:42:09 2018 No.10627540 >>10627519 You don't understand. Trump is going to dialectically reinforce his opposite party by being a fucking moron.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 02:42:59 2018 No.10627545 >>10627534 Kek

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 02:46:41 2018 No.10627551 >>10627529 >My God, people unironically praise Deleuze Yeah but psychoanalysis is irrelevant anyway.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 03:00:30 2018 No.10627588 >>10623287 >/lit/ went from Lacan to Jung was it a downgrade?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 03:01:08 2018 No.10627592 >>10627551 Dude psychoanalysis and its emphasis on sex is everywhere. Sex and genre is like the prevalent political discourse these days.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 03:08:32 2018 No.10627618 >>10627531 That's not how the economy works moron

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 03:08:57 2018 No.10627622 >>10627397 If you think Jordan or Turkish isn't suffering a real crisis from the overload of migrants into their borders you are letting your heart overload your brain

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 03:09:33 2018 No.10627627 >>10627534 (you)

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 03:10:51 2018 No.10627636 >>10627397 Get the fuck off my board

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 03:17:16 2018 No.10627655 >>10627622 But no one cares about those shitholes

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 03:18:28 2018 No.10627663 >>10627655 Hey Jordan is a cool country

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 03:20:05 2018 No.10627671 >>10627588 Yes

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 03:21:17 2018 No.10627677 >>10627622 What crisis? They're asylum seekers. The countries that welcome them will benefit economically, and most of them will leave as soon as they can.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 03:25:04 2018 No.10627691 >>10627618 lmfao

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 11:38:30 2018 No.10628993 File: 54 KB, 565x575, 1279011586367.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10627677 >The countries that welcome them will benefit economically, and most of them will leave as soon as they can.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 11:40:39 2018 No.10629005 File: 90 KB, 917x458, DRt2nEcWsAEwXXs.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10628993 education cannot wait though

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 11:43:14 2018 No.10629018 >>10623016 What is a Slavoj? Nothing but a miserable pile of ticks and sniffles.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 11:47:37 2018 No.10629037 >>10629018 sounds like something he would say, are you him?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 11:49:33 2018 No.10629049 why are far-leftists always genetic failures? How come there are no chads that promote marx?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 11:49:58 2018 No.10629052 His much-hyped for the wrong reasons. Several decades after his death he will be rediscovered and appreciated for the right reasons.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 11:58:00 2018 No.10629077 File: 15 KB, 220x275, michel_clouscard.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10629049 >there are no chads that promote marx Wrong https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Clouscard

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 12:00:37 2018 No.10629095 >>10629077 >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michel_Clouscard >chad Holy shit man if you think that is Chad than you are genuienly proving my point

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 12:16:01 2018 No.10629154 File: 59 KB, 400x188, 1512426423574.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10627618 >Supply side economists >Telling anybody else they don't understand economy

Anonymous Fri Feb 2 12:19:42 2018 No.10629159
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>>10628993
>The countries that welcome them will benefit economically
>Influx of cheap labor with weak protections and no political representation
Yeah the bosses are gonna HATE that

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 12:20:18 2018 No.10629163 >>10629095 He was a turbochad in his youth. He probably fucked your mom as well.

Anonymous Fri Feb 2 12:24:32 2018 No.10629173
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>>10629159
>haha lets import tons of culturally antagonistic unskilled labor as the age of automation is about to begin so that we can drive down wages for our native workers with the hope that one day the people who can barely speak our language will abandon their old ways and become masters of law and medicine

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 12:30:05 2018 No.10629190 >>10623024 You know how when you pronounce names like 'John' or 'Jack' there's a bit of resistance in the pronounciation of the 'J', like a soft 'd'? Take that out and pronouce Jijek.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 12:42:08 2018 No.10629220 >>10627519 >not about doing things that will make local leftists mad like closing borders And filling his presidency with corporate overlords isn't?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 12:46:08 2018 No.10629230 >>10629220 that's just business as usual

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 12:53:24 2018 No.10629257 File: 182 KB, 388x443, 1507162103555.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10629230 And the magic of Trump is he is making the more obscure or ignored flaws of the system blisteringly obvious.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 12:58:21 2018 No.10629275 >>10629220 you know that Wall Street unironically finger picked most of Obama's cabinet? not saying it's any different for Trump, just that this is nothing new

Anonymous Fri Feb 2 13:00:25 2018 No.10629280

>>10629257
Yeah he kind of brought the whole "leftists importing nonwhites who will overwhelmingly vote only for them" into the national consciousness.

>>10629275
Eh he's a reactionary from the accelerationist perspective in the sense that he's slowed demographic change and temporarily halted the expansion of free trade and common market agreements, whereas Clinton would escalate both.

Anonymous Fri Feb 2 13:06:14 2018 No.10629298

>>10629275
Yes and the trouble with previous presidents is they can coast by on their charm, image and charisma. Trump has neither of those outside of his fanbase. When future presidents try to do that shit, all the masses need to know is that Trump did it too to be mad. Essentially he has made regular terrible presidency moves looks more toxic

>>10629280
People were already grumbling about that before Trump

Anonymous Fri Feb 2 13:07:38 2018 No.10629302
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>>10629173
>that feeling when the Left is so inert that you have to vote for crazy ethnonationalists to promote worker's rights and the abandonment of neoliberalism
New Communist International when?

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 13:11:12 2018 No.10629319 File: 29 KB, 320x320, IWW.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10629302 >kills off its Left far more than any other country >now laments its ineffectiveness Reap what you sow

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 13:16:35 2018 No.10629332 File: 133 KB, 239x459, 3a95c3393dccdec86b7fab0e8761df9d5033f7d124d077a9def411f56447523f.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10629302 Come home, red flag

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 13:17:32 2018 No.10629335 >>10628993 Man, you totally KILLED him with that reaction image. You are the undisputed winner of this argument.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 13:30:30 2018 No.10629390 >>10629335 come on, smug anime girls are a legitimate form of discourse

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 15:39:12 2018 No.10629977 File: 306 KB, 593x540, 798.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10629335 >Man, you totally KILLED him with that reaction image. You are the undisputed winner of this argument.

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 15:40:46 2018 No.10629987 File: 358 KB, 940x705, norm1.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10624774 Zizek is fun, but the actual /ourguy/ is pic related.

Anonymous Fri Feb 2 15:50:55 2018 No.10630053

>>10629335
>and most of them will leave as soon as they can.
>and most of them will leave as soon as they can.
>and most of them will leave as soon as they can.
How dumb do you have to be to believe this?
>yep better go back to syria where everything is fucked and I'll have 1% of my current salary
>yep better go back to iran where I'll be persecuted for my beliefs and earn 10% of my current salary
>yep better go back to libya where i'll be kidnapped by jihadists and ransomed for 1000% of my current salary

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 16:35:06 2018 No.10630302 File: 112 KB, 900x773, happy zizek.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>10629987

>>	Anonymous Fri Feb 2 17:20:23 2018 No.10630502 >>10623024 Why is this board 99% burgerlands?

Anonymous Fri Feb 2 17:30:30 2018 No.10630546

>>10627220
>>10627397
>doesn't sound like progress to me
It doesn't change the fact that this is what the actual motive behind his statement was, which he's said fairly clearly in a rather not-78d chess fashion. The claim is that even if more people suffer over the next four years, it should be better over the next twenty years. I wouldn't call him right winged for that. I don't agree with it either, but at the same time I do get a kick out of seeing right winged highschool friends and friend's-parents asking where their meals on wheels went. In the long run it'll be beneficial in terms of voting patterns. Maybe not enough to justify Zizek's claim, but still.

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