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10456185 No.10456185 [Reply] [Original]

I beg of you, say something profound.

>> No.10456187

>>10456185
I like both men AND women.

>> No.10456198

>>10456187
Impossible. You're just gay.

>> No.10456217

Coca-Cola and Pepsi taste a little bit different, but not so much that you can love the one and hate the other.

>> No.10456222

be yourself and mind your own business
*tips*

>> No.10456225

>>10456198
want to test it out??

>> No.10456228

Too many "great" philosophers have philosophies mirrored by the way they lived before coming to their conclusions; they seem unable to imagine that the better way to live is a way they're unable to comply with.
Like some cunt with no friends circlejerks himself into believing friends are superfluous. Or /r9k/ Cioran. Or assburger Schopenhauer.

>> No.10456230

>>10456225
Yes!

>> No.10456233

>>10456228
Freud wanting to fuck his family is a great example.

>> No.10456239

Ignorance is profound, wisdom is shallow

>> No.10456241

>>10456225
Don’t know. Shoved a lot of things up my ass and mouth but never got anything out of it really. Don’t see how a penis is going to be that much more exciting. Kind of a shame too because I found out I can go balls deep on a 10 inch dildo in every hole. Waste of talent right here.

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>>10456185
I want everyone who sees this post to know a random anon out there holds a set place in their heart and soul a piece of love, respect, and admiration.

Please. Take care of yourself. Remember to stretch a little and get some nice nutrition today. Practice your mindfulness, learn about who you are, and just breath. It's going to be okay.

>> No.10456351

>>10456230
>>10456241
I kissed boys before, played with other boys junk, but I don't really remember ever actually having gay sex.

But it's not really all that bad. Just feels gay is all.

>> No.10456353

>>10456351
are you qt?

>> No.10456363

>>10456353
somewhat, some people like me with my hair long others like it cut

>> No.10456368

>>10456185
Truth is that which, when found incorrect by a criterion, invalidates the criterion.

>> No.10456375

>>10456228
Cioran and Schopenhauer were slayers

>> No.10456380

>>10456185
The only thing anybody deserves is death.
Is it a punishment or a prize?

>> No.10456405

>>10456185
knock a foot off and be done with it.

>> No.10456426

>>10456185
I sincerely wish you the best, and that in your deathbed feel satisfied.

>> No.10456430

>>10456185
Anything left to be said has already been said

>> No.10456432

>>10456185
You made this thread in the hope nothing profound would be said so that you could feel better about having nothing profound to say. As long as you're mediocre like everyone else, you haven't failed.

>> No.10456436

>>10456185
We are less than what we say we are but more than what we are.

I'm reaching Mariana's Trench levels here, anon.

>> No.10456441

>>10456185
Intelligence is an acid that can do more harm to anything on which it is poured than the vessel in which it is stored

>> No.10456484
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>>10456228
when you're smart enough, you can pretty much select whatever ideology you want and adhere to it in good faith without any need for negotiation or compromise.

>> No.10456783

>>10456217
Obviously you've never had the misfortune to consume any of that diabetic bubble piss marketed as "Pepsi".

>> No.10456787

>>10456185
you’re going to die earlier than your parents and grandparents did and you won’t have children taller or healthier than you are if you do breed

>> No.10456793

>>10456185
Truth is more real than facts

>> No.10456795
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10456795

>>10456787
I wont have children at all because I'm not that much of an asshole

>> No.10456802

>>10456793
>Truth is stranger than fiction.

Never understood this saying.

>> No.10456808

The worst punishment Lucifer could be given would be to have his wish granted in God's terms.

>> No.10456809

Babka is a good thing. We need more babka to offset the stuffy, pomposity of this board.

>> No.10456813

>>10456185
It's only

>> No.10456818

>>10456185
Emotions are sublimations of instincts.

>> No.10456819

Hubris is only one thing that makes humans special.

>> No.10456823

>>10456217
Pepsi only tastes nice if you water it down.

>> No.10456827

>>10456185
4chan has been steadily declining in quality for a while now, and the 2016 election has sped if up. Now /pol/ kids spam their shitty infographics and rhetoric everywhere they can and having any sane discussion on most boards in impossible.

Luckily smaller boards like /lit/ and /out/ haven't been hit to hard by it.

I think to fix 4chan we need to implement a 5$ paywall to post. This would severally limit newfags coming in from whatever controversy 4ch stirs up and would really improve post quality.

>> No.10456831

>>10456802
Just grab a history book.
Many authors aiming for "realism" forget 'truth is stranger than fiction'. The real world is full of unbelievable events, coincidences, and odd characters. When authors remove these elements in an attempt to make their world seem real, they make their fiction duller than reality; after all, unexpected details are the heart of verisimilitude.

>> No.10456840

by the time things change it is already too late

>> No.10456848

>>10456827
This, then I can finally be free of this hell hole.

>> No.10456850

>>10456185
Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

>> No.10456884

>>10456848
Are you poor?

>> No.10456890

>>10456884
No but I would never spend $5 a month to shitpost here. I simply wouldn't pay the fee out of principle.

>> No.10456897

>>10456827
>paying to use a public forum
bourgeoisie filth

>> No.10456898
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10456898

Have you ever really tried ? I mean at everything. I don't feel like I ever have and I'm still trying to find out how to

>> No.10456935

Rμν−1/2gμνR+gμνΛ=8πG/c4Tμν

>> No.10457043

>>10456890
Not 5$ a month, 1 time payment

>> No.10457052

All truth-deduction ultimately relies on fixated concepts, what are concepts?
You could say it's an intelligible feeling or intuition, that alone is shaky, but what happens when you carry it outward or perceive it from the outside world?

Writing it down or reading about it?
How do you know that what you're reading is what is meant?
Even reading of a "tree", how do you know this is what the author thought of, precisely?

Meaning in every hypothetical scenario in which the tree of the authors mind would be present he would say "yes, a tree is present" and you too would agree, there must be divergencies right?

This fundamental insight damages all hopes for an objective and doubtless philosophy or science, everything is inherently flawed through the non-existence of fixated "meaning".

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>>10456432
>As long as you're mediocre like everyone else, you haven't failed.

>> No.10457070

>>10457052
The "I just watched a Wittgenstein summary on youtube" thread is two pages down
--->

>> No.10457075

>>10456185
Responsibility's cool, but there's more things in life, like getting your dick, rode all fucking night

>> No.10457080

the reason you dont try to succeed is because it still gives you the option to see yourself as a precocious kid rather than the retard you really are

>> No.10457082

>>10457070
That's not Wittgenstein you brainlet homo, I'll leave you two more guesses.
Hint: It's not Frege either, you probably don't even know him.

>hurrr bhilosobbee of langoog == widgnsteen

>> No.10457088

>>10457082

Is it Tarski?

>> No.10457095

>>10457088
No. Though Tarski's work is in some sense relevant.

>> No.10457102

If she's left you on "read", please don't double text her. It only makes it feel worst.

>> No.10457168

I, myself, have uncovered pumpernickel
>in my pompous rump
of no terrain for the
>barren bums
of the
dirt peasantry.

>> No.10457181

Me and my friends were waiting for a bus for about an hour and a half — with an old man standing a bit away from us at the same bus stop.

Finally, we can see the bus coming, and my friend says, “Oh finally, the bus is coming,” and the old man just turns to us and says, “The bus was always coming.”

>> No.10457185

No snowflake in an avalanche ever feels responsible.

>> No.10457192

>>10457181
That's not profound, the old man is just a smart ass.

>> No.10457194
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10457194

"Internally, there is a competition. It is like a basketball game, filled with rankled players who vie for superiority on the court. The audience wild with abandon. He has too much to lose to quit, even if no one knows him, or even cares if he lives, his soul is at ends. Tearing at each other until there is nothing left but internal victory. Whichever side wins, is what we bet on, and what we bet on may not be the right answer, nor the best answer—fixing his collar—"but it's the side that won."

>> No.10457203

>>10456185
superficiality in great length is the new deep, if those strata can be easily googled.

>> No.10457215

>>10456380
surprise!

>> No.10457218

On Whataburger’s cups: “When I am empty, please dispose of me properly.”

>> No.10457950

Water + Seed = Weed.

>> No.10457972

If you "look behind" your self, you realize your view never changes, and all your life experiences are all directly behind you, you are just taking up a different place in time and space.

So its not the body that moves, it's the conciousness that creates these perspectives of the self that moves.

All time in concurrent, so your concioisness must be outside of time.

Your life would leave a snake like appearance of movement, and your face with be the beginning and the end of perspective.

Im sorry for anyone who understands what Im saying

>> No.10458380

Hold that thought, I gotta go talk to my gf.

>> No.10458401
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10458401

>>10456185
I'm going to take over the entire fucking world

>> No.10458406

>>10456185
>I've made roughly $500 so far in the year of 2017 from self-publishing books and ghostwriting.

Feels pretty neat-o. Only started ghostwriting recently so since I'll be doing it during the entirety of 2018 as well as working on my own books I anticipate at least $1000 in 2018. Already got 3 book ideas in mind.

>> No.10458407

>>10456380
When a gift is deserved, it is not a gift but a payment.

>> No.10458408
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>>10456328
Thanks anon! That is a nice sentiment.

>> No.10458411

>>10458406
Who requests things to be ghostwritten? (what type of person, what projects?)

>> No.10458422

No idea what the fuck this means, but while trying to think of something I heard this in my head:

"The true nature of the universe is red."

>> No.10458424

>>10458411
I tend not to ask questions about them personally. One was a wife/mother, one a husband/father, and I also wrote a custom piece of erotica for a single woman who has a fantasy in regards to her boss.

>> No.10458428

>>10458424
Interesting, can you elaborate what kind of requests? Personal or professional?

>> No.10458433

Your view changes all the time it's just hard to tell.

>> No.10458436

I dreamt of a patio in the nighttime. The tables were all filled with people I knew, and they were being given shopping bags as party favors full of something important. An agent radioed me on those things cops have on their chest, and said someone was leaving with a bag. The patio in the night time was in the middle of a forest with dark-wooded trees, almost black, and there was a long road which ended at the patio.

(Forest trees)
==================================={Patio}
(Forest trees)

And the path was lit up like a road with dim street lights. The road was not empty. It was sprinkled with vagrants laying and sitting down on the road. The person leaving with the bag walked very far away from the patio, and I had to follow them. The "rule" was they had to place the shopping bag somewhere in the road. I am not afraid of the dark, or of vagrants, but of the time I wasted following the person, then having to turn around and return to the patio. The thought of having to do this again the moment I returned gave me a strange feeling. It was hopelessness. It was not fear; a nightmare filled with monsters or dismemberment. It was hopelessness in its purest form. It was a pointless chore, in a bleak environment, looping forever.

The day before I stayed late at a gaming cafe and there were no buses running at that time so I was left wandering around in the dark until I decided to uber back to my apartment.

>> No.10458441

"The most wonderful opportunity which life offers is to be human. It embraces the whole universe. It includes the knowledge of death, which not even God enjoys."

>> No.10458443

>>10457080
you killed me, anon

>> No.10458459

>>10458380
she has a deep cunt

>> No.10458565

>>10456185
An eyebrow raised is a thought lowered.

>> No.10458569

life is suffering and we should all end it by killing ourselves

>> No.10458625

>>10456185
something profound

>> No.10458632

It's always darkest before the dawn
Look before you leap
Once bitten, twice shy
There's no I in team
The early bird catches the worm

>> No.10458655

>>10456795
My nigga.

>> No.10459598

You can take a nigger out of the jungle, but you can't take a nigger to the movies without him screeching like a howler monkey

>> No.10459624

>>10456185
Somehow it was all tied up with a story he'd heard once, about a boy born with a golden screw where his navel should have been. For twenty years he consults doctors and specialists all over the world, trying to get rid of this screw, and having no success. Finally, in Haiti, he runs into a voodoo doctor who gives him a foul-smelling potion. He drinks it, goes to sleep and has a dream. In this dream he finds himself on a street, lit by green lamps. Following the witch-man's instructions, he takes two rights and a left from his point of origin, finds a tree growing by the seventh street light, hung all over with colored balloons. On the fourth limb from the top there is a red balloon; he breaks it and inside is a screwdriver with a yellow plastic handle. With the screwdriver he removes the screw from his stomach, and as soon as this happens he wakes from the dream. It is morning. He looks down toward his navel, the screw is gone. That twenty years' curse is lifted at last. Delirious with joy, he leaps up out of bed, and his ass falls off.

>> No.10459646

>>10456787
This is false.

>> No.10459654

>>10459646
probably not

>> No.10459664
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>>10456328
I like this post
Thank you, anon.

>> No.10459787

>>10458428
What do you mean 'personal or professional'? When someone requests something to be ghostwritten, that means they intend to monetize it. The 'custom erotica' I mentioned, that was just for personal use, and she liked it enough to also tip me. So I guess I write stuff for people both professionally AND personally?

>> No.10459790

>>10456328
That's a nice post, seems like something Jesus would say.

>> No.10459798

Rescue your father

>> No.10459972

>>10456827
>RIGHTLY bitches about pol
>suggests we build a wall to keep out refugees that are a product of the cobtroversies we've generated

>> No.10460440

you can count how many seeds are in an apple, but you cant count how many apples are in a seed

>> No.10460469

You can give water to a horse, but if you can't make him drink it, what's it worth, y'know? Horses are a poor investment.

>> No.10460503 [DELETED] 

>>10456185
Hell, I wish I can just write about depression and love with everyone agreeing with me. Then we can all drop our pens, pencils, whatever, and move on with our lives.

Poets no longer needed. So to will Pop Stars, romantic media, everything

Maybe I don't want to solve it all
God I'm tired

>> No.10460757

>>10456185
There is no word in the English language more powerful or versatile than "brown".

>> No.10460787

>>10460757
I too enjoy chocolate and cheese.

>> No.10460789

>>10456185
Hitler was a mean guy.

>> No.10461320

>>10456185
the Mariana trench

>> No.10461322

Revelation is not a historical phenomenon but a cosmological one.

>> No.10461330

>>10456185
Something profound

>> No.10461342

>>10460757
god brown you

>> No.10461361

>>10461342
Like, "God brown us, everyone"?
Or, "You maniacs. Brown you all to hell!"?

>> No.10461367

I am currently on hour 82 of a 100 hour fast, my last meal was Christmas Dinner at 15:00 with my family, and I just made myself a mint tea, which will be the first mint tea I will drink during this particular fast. It tastes absolutely delicious.

You don't need to keep adding more to your life; more books, more experiences, more anything. Make an effort to enjoy the many pleasures produced by everyday simplicity.

>> No.10461374

>>10461367

I am homeless

>> No.10461386

>>10456808
elaborate?

>> No.10461396

>>10461386

Lucifer wants to be God. But he wants it in the sense he wants the power or authority of God, not to literally just be God, in which case he would become the thing he was trying to usurp.

>> No.10461397

>>10457080
cute, but "succeed" is too vague to be a goal

>> No.10461436

>>10461396
...and?

>> No.10461446

>>10461436

That's it

>> No.10461776

>>10456823
this

>> No.10461824

>>10456185
Something profound for you

>> No.10461839

>>10456328
When I feel particularly shitty I think about other anons and hope they're doing okay.

I like to think they do the same for me, as well as the other faceless ones among us.

>> No.10461853

>>10456898
You have tried, you just didn't do as well as you thought you would or it wasn't as easy as you expected, so you rationalise you haven't really tried and that when you do try you will be amazing. But that day will never come because you are completely average.

>> No.10461864

>>10456827
>to hard by it
Five or six years ago you would have been scared to post this because the only (you) you'd have gotten would have been a critique of your writing ability.

>> No.10461997

>>10456328
>>10461839
(You) have proven that anons have the capacity to experience and express empathy. If anons have the potential to be human and I am an anon, than maybe I have the potential to be human too.

>> No.10462182

>>10456185
'Check your privilege' is Count your blessings' in the negative.

>> No.10462191

>>10456185
The jerk store called and they're running out of you.

>> No.10462196

>>10457950
feed + seed = sneed

>> No.10462524

>>10461997
Damn straight. We are all flesh and blood in the end.

>> No.10462713
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10462713

Australia doesn’t exist
It was all a cover up to mass murder criminals
Everyone who says they’re Australian is an actor paid by the uk government, if you went to “Australia” you actually went to South Africa. Now the use Australia to explain failed human experiments like “kangaroos”

>> No.10462716

>>10462191
Well i had sex with your wife

>> No.10462827

The pickup artist pro found an easy way into her pants.

>> No.10462833

Mental deterioration really starts about at 25 and even a 30 year-old is not only physically but also mentally, in terms of fluid intelligence, inferior to his 25-year old former self. It is the rare man that doesn't waste away his youth with pointless endeavors and willingly takes his one chance at becoming exceptional.

>> No.10462849

>>10456185
ignorance is simply not knowing something. In other words everyone is ignorant about most things because we as individuals can't know everything. Using that word as a derogatory is actually ignorance of the definition of ignorant.

However stupidity is not knowing and not caring. This is a greater problem especially when the person claims to know something that they don't. The greatest problem comes from liars who spread false information which makes people think they are not ignorant when they really are.

>> No.10462855

>>10456185
traveling is bull shit and I'd rather have a home with a pretty woman I can talk with

>> No.10462867

if a super intelligent person thinks you're funny, its because they're coming up with deeper meanings to things you said that they think you intended to imply, not laughing at what you actually said

>> No.10462877

>>10456827
people have been saying this for like 8 years

>> No.10462888

>>10462877
yeah i remember complaining about the 2016 election in 2009.

>> No.10462905

>>10456185
patriotism, racism and sexism are small minded concepts. it is hubris to have any pride in things like where you were born which are out of your control - YOU have not done anything to be worthy of your pride

>> No.10462908

>>10456241
even ears?

>> No.10462913

>>10462713
i wish i was getting paid for being australian

>> No.10462991

>>10456185
Without music life would be a mistake

>> No.10463004

>>10462905
There's nothing profound about being a mouthpiece for the prevailing ideology

>> No.10463008

>>10456185
One-sentence 'truth bombs' can't be profound, they give you a 'heh' moment but don't really stick with you or change your worldview in a deep way, they are just mind candy.

>> No.10463057

>>10462849
A speaker entertained my 5th grade science class and shared this exact concept with us.

Profound?

>> No.10463126

>>10462991
with music, like is also a mistake

>> No.10463156

>>10463126
*life

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>>10456328
>>10459790
W.hat
W.ould
J.esus
P.ost?

>> No.10463174

>>10456935
Whats dis

>> No.10463285
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>>10456831
underrated post.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHVqxD8PNq8

>> No.10463385

>>10456827
No. The solution is not a paywall. Go to /a/ right now and count how many Pepe or Wojak images there are in the catalogue. /a/ janitors actually do their jobs and will delete any non anime or manga related posts and images. What /lit/ and other boards need is more aggressive moderation to keep the discussion on topic.

>> No.10463392

>>10456217
>drinking anything other than tea or water

>> No.10463409

>>10463385
Aggressive moderation while effective, treats the symptom, not the disease.

>> No.10463420

>>10456185
real peace is more exciting than violence

>> No.10463425

>>10456802
>Never understood this saying.
>he doesn't know of any of the crazy shit that's happened throughout mankind's history
Literally underage.

>> No.10463431

>>10456328
u r a good person anon

>> No.10463472

>>10463409
Does a paywall treat the "disease"? If moderation works then what's the problem?

>> No.10463480

thousands of people die from dihydrogen monoxide, a chemical, poisoning everyday.

>> No.10463481

>>10463472
Moderation has always been shot on every board except /a/. Porn threads on /v/ can stay up for an hour and half the threads are shitty /pol/bait. I don't think that's going to change soon

>> No.10463490

>>10456185
Profound natures are dictated by their context

>> No.10463590
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10463590

>>10463481
If moderation works on /a/ then why would it not work on other boards? Do you really think /v/ users want to see porn threads and /pol/ bait?

>> No.10463599

>>10462908
Reading his post, I'm fairly certain that yes, the ears especially

>> No.10463628

There are these two young fish swimming along, and they happen to meet an older fish swimming the other way, who nods at them and says, “Morning, boys, how's the water?" And the two young fish swim on for a bit, and then eventually one of them looks over at the other and goes, “What the hell is water?”

>> No.10463654

>>10456185
There is no need to say something nonobvious or somehow profound. The problems in society are obvious to see for anyone. Homelessness, corruption and a deep spiritual void that divides us all from each other. Would you really be so cruel if you really knew this other person?

There is no need to be profound. Just act already.

>> No.10463679

>>10463628
There are these two young men walking along, and they happen to meet an older man walking the other way, who nods at them and says, “Morning, boys, how's the air?" And the two young men walk on for a bit, and then eventually one of them looks over at the other and goes, 'who the fuck asks "how's the air"?!'

>> No.10463779

>>10460440
>you can count how many seeds are in an apple, but you cant count how many apples are in a seed
Its the same with women

>> No.10463805

>>10456187
You can go both in AND out

>> No.10463847

>>10459624
The message I take from this is that no matter what you do you're screwed.

>> No.10463870

>>10462182
Yep, in other words 'don't be happy with the good things you have, be ashamed of them because other people do not have them.'

This is why the social justice movement is carcinogenic.

>> No.10463898

>>10463779
>you can count how many women are in an apple, but you cant count how many apples are in a woman

>> No.10463905

>>10456228
Why though? Human knowledge is will to power, whoever pushes their theories hardest gets them into facticity. Might as well push something that strokes your ego. In fact, I'd say you couldn't push something that goes against your own ego hard enough to become a great.

>> No.10463937

i live the life of an interesting person in slow motion.

>> No.10464116

>>10456484
Shouldn't philosophy be trying to understand the metaphysical truth to the universe, not a maze of sophistry to actualize your behavior?

>> No.10464119

>>10463905
You can't push God's truth to power though

>> No.10464156

>>10456239
heh

>> No.10464165

Saying something profound is impossible because as soon as you indulge in conceptual proliferations you erect a barrier between you and the actuality of experience.

>> No.10464174

>>10464116
t. 16 year old

>> No.10464179

>>10456185
I gave you all I had.
I gave you good and bad.
I gave but you just threw it back.

I won't get on my knees.
Don't make me do that please.
I've been away but now I'm back.

Don't be too sure of that.
What makes you sure of that?
You went away, and you can't come back.

I walked away from you.
I hurt you through and through.
Oh honey give me one more chance.

>> No.10464187

Oh you're a lucky son.
Lucky son of a gun.
You went away.
You went away.
You went away but now you're ba-aaa-aa-aaack.

I got down on my knees.
Then I begged you please.
I always knew you'd take me back.

>> No.10464449

>>10457972
consciousness is a result of physical matter. Your brain is an extremely more complex organ than you believe. Animals may have been able to perceive time 500 mya. The mechanism of which remains largely unknown as researchers have been unable to carefully understand the tempo-parietal lobes without the physical use of electricity.

All metaphysical thought originates from our mental faculties as a result of: anxiety, fear, pain, desire, and other baser emotions related to our near unconscious desire to remain functioning as an organism.

Rational thought is the only way forward for our species. Myths "busted" or used for metaphor and distributed as memes. Our period of distrust is at hand. Time will march on with or without us as it has been since the origin of matter as we observe it. As we have been probing at our surroundings we will eventually learn more of the mechanism of time, matter, and quantum states. We may be able to create or otherwise emulate intelligence one day, perhaps that will lead us closer to questions of time?

>> No.10464464

>>10464174
Literally not an argument

>> No.10464465

>>10464449

11/10

>> No.10464514

>>10457972
Some creatures may in fact observe time differently. This leads us to a conclusion that time is relative and is subject only to the laws of nature as we can view from this perspective. A result of our carbon based life and the unknown variances in life forms in these atmospheres of time/space. We always seem to, historically, stop short of acknowledging our true potential, perhaps as a species that has come this far, we can continue without setback. if only one could peer into what we perceive as the future, but current evidence & belief suggests that we can not.

>> No.10464532

>>10463004
If that's true, how will humanity ever reach ideological stability and truth?

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>>10462905
What if I declare that free will doesn't exist so nothing you do was in your control.

>> No.10464574

>>10464514
>>10464449
>>10456185
I don't believe that profound is an an exquisite meme, the word itself means:

Of Emotion:Very great or intense
(which is highly subjective and not nearly a strong enough metric with which to derive discernible information.)

and Of a Person or statement: having or showing great knowledge or insight.
(which deadens us by associating ideas with the individual, and paints a narrative that skews us from realizing truth and facts).

The word for profound in latin means "before bottom," or beneath the surface. I believe that the current use of the word emphasizes exactly the opposite by being so sensationalized and cheapened by its every day use.

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>>10456185
All has found its ordination etched in the greatest dawn.

>> No.10464603

>>10463870
It's quite astounding to see how dialectically opposed they are, especially when one is a religious saying while the other is secular. When you count your blessings, you feel happy for the good things you have in life, and feel a sense of compassion for the less fortunate, which motivates you to help them through acts of charity. Checking your privilege on the other hand, leaves you with a feeling of self-loathing for all the unearned advantages you have in your life. Then, you feel guilty knowing there are people in the world who don't have the same advantages you have, so by inaction you give up your opportunity to be successful so someone else can.

>> No.10464667

>>10458422
As meaningless as this sentence is, it does sound pretty cool.

>> No.10464669

>>10464568
Control is a de facto thing that works within predetermination.

In general it's best to ignore predetermination and attempt whatever we want, it's just that we always were going to do whatever we do.

The experience of free will is real, but there may not be free will.

Predetermination is a likelihood given what we know, but that may not be true either.

And full knowledge = transcending the experience of time

http://pyramid.glass/uncategorized/equations/

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>>10458422
>*worried laughter*

>> No.10464867

>>10464669
I've enjoyed your musings and will keep your site bookmarked for later viewing. I disagree fundamentally on some issues which you've explored, and some themes which you purport to be the truth. I also believe that, if you resolve to continue your forward thinking you may one day parley that into earnings which will allow you to achieve great things for our species. Who knows? There are many a young man who fall prey to their desires and their eccentricities.

>> No.10464868

We ain't had nothing but maggoty bread for three stinkin days

>> No.10465014

>>10456185
If everyone had to read the whole thread and reply to at least two posts before posting their own quote, this thread would have a lot more discussion and a lot less shitposts. WHERE ARE MY (YOU)S GODDAMN IT?!

>> No.10465020

>>10464867
What do you disagree with?

The result of what I posted is that existence is the only thing we can truly be sure of. I think enough people have written enough about that, that I shouldn't have to justify it.

From there, we feel a thing called pleasure. Pleasure is clearly the thing to pursue, and you can best ensure a pleasurable outcome via power.

I'd say the above is objectively true, however vague.

Nothing I've posted here or on pyramid is a new idea. I'd enjoy some feedback to get me motivated to keep going. The goal is to make the main arguments correct and bulletproof - whether that requires going further into detail or even changing the idea, it doesn't matter.

The only thing I'm at risk of falling prey to is a lack of following through.

But yeah, if you wanted to give direct critiques it would probably be mutually beneficial to our respective ways of thinking.
I won't try to convince you (it's impossible on this board) but I'll take it into account

>> No.10465036

The universe is made out of fuzzy sticky eyes and no one will even find out what's happening because everything is just consciencesness folded and reforming. All of time is happening right now.

>> No.10465041

>>10463174
it's just pop science

>> No.10465263

>>10456380
fun

>> No.10465272

>>10456185
Introduce politics into a narrative and for personally significant but otherwise insubstantial amount of time the world no longer makes sense.

>> No.10465625

>>10456850
This fucking faggot...

>> No.10465769

familiarity plays a bigger role in success than intelligence

>> No.10465781

>>10456185
My opinion is the circumscribed observation applied to the spatial parameter that is the composer of these words plsu the mind that can grammatical parse these words.

>> No.10465892

>>10465020
I appreciate the opportunity to have a discourse on this site, however rare, that doesn't simply attempt to get a quick laugh. I just disagree that

>Pleasure is clearly the thing to pursue

From the perspective of one such as myself, that our cultural-evolutionary benefits need be our top priority. We must accept all truths, and there is no clear evidence that pleasure is the most pivotal to our cultural-evolutionary benefit. Whatever has the most significant impact need be most invested in so that the human race will continue to move forward. We may one day understand our universe in ways we couldn't comprehend now, but at this time, we still lack the numbers of forward thinking, educated individuals who can focus on core science in order to drive concrete changes.

Humanity may have to implement it's own j-curve in order to survive on this planet unless exoplanetary terraformation is achieved soon. Will the moralists allow the culling of humankind in order to elevate themselves as a species? I do not believe that current sociopolitically minded people and globalists will see this as favorable, and I worry that without a more primal look at the natural state of humans will not allow us to outrun space death, or the end of information that has been hypothesized by string theorists.

>> No.10465915

>>10465892
I apologize, I believe I meant S-curve.

http://www.encyclopedia.com/earth-and-environment/ecology-and-environmentalism/environmental-studies/s-shaped-growth-curve#1O7Sshapedgrowthcurve

>> No.10465957

>>10456185
Blow me

>> No.10465973

>>10464574
The destiny of all words is to be cheapened. Words used to describe problematic or controversial entities usually go through a neutral -> pejorative degradation (see, "negro," "retard," "liberal." "Jew," "Gypsy") etc.

>> No.10466441

>>10465973
I disagree, our sizable vocabularies would allow us to decide between various/numerous subtle nuances of words to use in a given circumstance, but we have yet to understand that context>content in a mainly content filled world. Think on this: in ancient Egypt the literacy rate was reserved for the top 1% of intellectuals in a society. This was a geographically limited, yet robust period, of insurmountable intellectual growth. Physicians and mathematicians existed primarily here. New theories were born. Western societies have found themselves once again to be graced with a generation which knows little strife comparatively speaking, and this has led to a sort of soft renaissance. We have, as a species, grown into a new sort of population. Evolving every so slightly in the past 200 years to appreciate idealism and fitness of mind.

>Egypt had 1%
>currently worldwide 86%

The information era is nearing its earliest epoch.
People should be beyond attaching memes to emotions. Emotions are feeble and pejorative words need no longer be used.

>> No.10466548

>>10465892
Imagine I'm saying this in a vacuum: We experience only from our own experience. This experience is inherently the only one that matters to us. Everything else only matters insofar as it affects our experience.

Removing all emotion etc, this is a logical truth.

And in our experience, pleasure is clearly thing thing to pursue. Power is the way to achieve it.

The best way to get full power over someone is for them to give it willingly. The only way to get a person to give you all of his power willingly is if following your will was fulfilling to that person.

So in the end, it looks pretty altruistic and would benefit society

/vacuum

I'm pretty sure notions of global warming are overblown, but I agree that this is a very imperfect society
Not surprising when you consider the majority of the population are actually "wage-slaves". They work jobs they hate, they don't affect change in that job and are unfulfilled and underutilized.
When not working, they go for cheap entertainment. It's like a way to cope.

I feel like our entire society revolves around cheap entertainment. Nothing (nonfiction) on tv or in the mainstream in general goes in depth. Not news or documentaries. Definitely not politics.

We get fucked with taxes, insurance, healthcare, the legal system.

Look at the DMV. You pay them every year a percentage of your car's value to drive it on the road. Do you not want to drive it for a year? You still have to pay for that. I think it's like $60.

Meanwhile look at the DMV experience itself. It's shit. All of the processing could be done online. They could trim a majority of their staff (staff that we have to pay for) and improve the experience (the experience we're paying for).

I think it's hard to worry about society though. It's like shouting at a massive wall.

That's why I like the idea of a mutually beneficial "secret society"

>> No.10466556

>>10465892
>cultural evolutionary
There is limited evidence for evolution and social Darwinism is the cancer killing society

>> No.10466594

>>10466556
There's reasonable evidence and reason to believe like evolution is a reality. Relatively little knowledge about it - biology (-> dna, genes, neurology, nutrition) in general though.

It's pretty apparent he wasn't talking about social darwinism.

I just feel like worrying about any of this is putting the cart before the horse. It's easier to affect change in our own lives and a lot harder when you involve other people.

>> No.10466605

>>10466548
Thinking about oneself is folly. Our experience means nothing if it does not add to the associating of information throughout time. We should strive to make inroads wherever possible, as single celled organisms colonized into cells and then organisms: we must also strive to change from individuals to a greater whole. Understanding and maintaining the civilization of the human era will be attained barring any significant setbacks. When this occurs, we will be free to calculate, over distances of light years, how many number of the specie human exist. When barriers are eliminated the prosperity and total intellectual growth encourages the expansion of the shared human database of knowledge. This database is crucial in our quest to discover how to manipulate matter. Eventually we may even discover how to manipulate time space in order to simulate whole universes.
(This last paragraph may be a bit farfetched, but I am inclined to believe that we generally underestimate ourselves as a species.)

>> No.10466629

>>10466556
It's actually social lamarckism.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/neo-Lamarckism

Lamarck believed that evolution was actually taking place during the lifespan of the organism, and recent science opens this up for physiological observation.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043549/

as we live and reproduce we transmit genes, as we grow and understand we transmit memes. We need to understand that memes may be just as important, and begin to use a bandwidth that the human brain is not yet ready for. Themes of our civilization must be carried forward. This is the only way to progress toward expansion that no longer relies on this planetary restriction.

>> No.10466746

>>10466629
This is bringing us nowhere and is actually regressive, as social Darwinism or any social theory based on evolution, typically is you fucking retard.

Evolution is a relatively new idea also in the grand scheme of science you have got to be the cancer killing this board I’ve fucking found you now faggot.

>> No.10466777

>>10466746
You truly believe that organisms have not changed over time? We now have the power to make complex protein sequences that reprogram the behavior of RNA. We Now observe evolution to be an expressible fact through the tenets of phylogeny and the advent of cloning and other genetic studies.

Evolution is real. Organisms change not only over time, but also within their lifetimes. This is proven on the genetic level.

>> No.10466784

>>10466777
It’s proven that you can fuck with the building blocks of life. Selected evolution can occur too.

But natural evolution? No. It cannot ever be observed, only inferred. It is very optimistic that evolution is correct.

>> No.10466797

>>10466784
evolution is a mixture of mutation, and natural selection. If you do not know this then you do not have a deep enough understanding of evolutionary biology.

>> No.10466807

>>10466797
Evolutionary Biology is dying because of me. You’re welcome

>> No.10466815

>>10466784
Not to mention Memeology, which is only just in its infancy.Memes are the next step in Lamarckian evolution: the phrase "a picture is worth a thousand words," applies to memes several fold more. Our bandwidth for ideas in the frontal cortical region are becoming a sexual selection feature for our spouses as ideas translate more easily into money. Logic will be the currency, potential will be treasured, and humanity on the individual level will cease to exist.

>> No.10466857

>>10459972
kek

>> No.10466868

>>10456328
Thx bb u 2

>> No.10466878

>>10457181
Fuck the other anon's reply, that made me think. Not earth shattering and not sage advice but still pretty funny to consider.

>> No.10466897

>>10463870
Jesus christ nobody above the age of 20 actually thinks that. "Check your privilege" is just a way to remind yourself that you didn't get where you are by purely effort and hard work, and not to detract from other people's hard work because it didn't get them to the same place. If this makes you feel guilty and ashamed (it shouldn't) that's your problem.

>> No.10466931

>>10456185
You don't need to be good at an instrument to have fun playing it, and it doesn't make the fun any less "valid" if power chords is all you can do.

>> No.10467021

>>10463392
>not living on energy drinks, coffee, and vodka
why do some """people""" choose to parade through life in such a disgraceful manner?

>> No.10467147

I just accidentally sharted in my office chair. I'm at work what do? I don't get off for another 3 hours

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>>10456328
Thanks for that anon, I really appreciate your kind words, take care you too!

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>>10461997

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>>10465041
what the fug are you talking about

>> No.10469855

>>10456228
I also read nietzsche

>> No.10469860

History will not vindicate me, but it will capitalize on me; and if it were honest, it would recognize that for a vindication.

>> No.10469886

>>10466605
>Thinking about oneself is folly
I don't know how you can say that without being able to back it up. It's inherent as existence in a single perspective that, that perspective is all that matters to itself.

Anything outside of our experience doesn't affect us. Once we're dead nothing will affect us. Again, because we experience only from ourselves: our experience is all that inherently matters to us.

I don't think there's any disproving that, man. No matter how cold it seems.

Truth within a false context is still net false. I'm more focused on truth than subscribing to anything just because it sounds nice. I'd rather align my tastes with truth.

We never logically decided what we find to be pleasurable, what we define to be good etc. We come to these emotions unconsciously. If we are consciousness then unconsciousness is 'un-us'. These things aren't valid unless they're consciously and logically decided from first principles upwards.

Existence is *the* first principle. The direct result of that is clear.

>>10466746
Society - and everything that comes with it - changes. Which is to say it *evolves*.

Whether or not organisms change / evolve or if God created everything from nothing in 6 days, society does evolve.

>> No.10469904

i think she wants to leave me

>> No.10469949

>>10469904
rilly makes u think....

>> No.10470116

Don't be clever, be curious.

>> No.10470798

>>10469886
If you exist as a singular entity, you die as a singular entity. History is Lamarckian evolution writ large. Pleasure is merely that which our primitive mind judges to be best for our physical body.

Borrowing a term from neural networking, you could call this "fitness." A simple calculation of how well we are doing at a given task. The difficulty for human beings is generally that we have an incredible drive for self preservation. Self preservation, and limited preservation of others is deceiving us into believing in flimsy tribal beliefs such as race/religion etc. It can be incredibly difficult to change the measure of fitness on any significant scale.

Meta cognition allows us theory of mind. The ability to postulate what others are thinking, or how they feel emotionally. It isn't "I think, therefore I am," it's "I think, therefore we are." Relying on the capability of others may seem pointless, but perhaps one day we may be able to more directly peer into the intentions and insights of others. Just because our perception and others is not the same does not mean that we should cease to see more complex information. Each of us is made of different genes, which ought to be preserved for the benefit of our informational being as a species in existence. Thinking outside oneself is essential to the progression of the species through time. Our perspective should shift onto those things which are of greatest threat: the unknown, physical cosmic forces beyond our control, and any possibility that the universe as we know it should cease to exist.

In conclusion:
Coming together in thought is furthering our shared knowledge base. Perception which exists separately from others should not constrict our lens of time and space only to the self. Self preservation becomes species preservation, it is the next logical step toward tying together our memes to our genes and evolving further.

>> No.10470903

>>10469886
>>10470798
Memes, or ideas, are the currency of our next step in evolution. Sequences of patterns of firing within the human brain.

From William James:
"This community of self is what the time-gap cannot break in twain."
If we hope to become something bigger than the self as an organism, we must strive toward being a cohesive community of informed peoples. Just as cells became organisms, and organisms became multi-cellular, so should we recombine and multiply.

>> No.10470948

Reason and logic are the means of making trails in the woods of the unknown but ultimately where you start and end can only be based on will and aesthetic.

Peak human performance is not being the most reasonable then but picking the most alien belief system and thoroughly developing it to your own satisfaction.

>> No.10470964

>>10456827
I think /pol/ has actually been a good thing for 4chan. The use of info graphics and spamming threads has actually gone down a lot in my experience.

>> No.10471140

>>10456228
Because only sincere works have an impact. they can be useful anyway. Ideas are instruments separated from their authors.

>> No.10471183

>>10462877

Nostalgia goggles aside, the website has gotten worse since '06 when I started lurking. But different boards rise and fall, so its a complicated answer.

>> No.10471202

the other ones too are eternal

>> No.10471210

>>10456185
You literally cannot "know" anything.

>> No.10471226

>>10456185
Democracy sells the change of government by the will of the people as a novelty and its leading quality.
However the people was always able to change governments by supporting coup attempts by means of violence.
all democracy does is organize the change to avoid violence and make society more governable, and therefore businesses more lucrative.
(I still prefer it though)

>> No.10471280

We all win in the end.

>> No.10471293

>>10458625
U N D E R R A T E D

>> No.10471294

>>10456328
>spelt breathe wrong
>9 replies, nobody mentions it
the current state of
/lit/ - Literature

>> No.10471304

She heard me

>> No.10471339

Something profound
This is now a get thread

>> No.10471424

“Love in action is a harsh and dreadful thing compared to love in dreams.”

>> No.10471536

>>10466897
>Jesus christ nobody above the age of 20 actually thinks that.
Have you been living under a rock these past 5 years?
>"Check your privilege" is just a way to remind yourself that you didn't get where you are by purely effort and hard work, and not to detract from other people's hard work because it didn't get them to the same place.
>It's okay to detract from a white person's accomplishments, but it's not okay to do the same when it comes to a minority

>> No.10471824

>>10456831
>>10463425
But I could conjure up a fiction so much stranger than any truth.