/lit/ - Literature

[Anonymous No.10446083]

STOP BEING REBORN

[Anonymous No.10446085]

nah fuck that

[Anonymous No.10446100]

it's actually terrifying

knowing that our only chance to live with the people we love in our life right now is to achieve gnosis with them, in this life, before it's too late and we get flung into another configuration.

[Anonymous No.10446101]

>>10446083
I'll get on that as soon as I clean my room.

[Anonymous No.10446111]

Stop

[Anonymous No.10446115]

>>10446083

Fuck that, I'm gonna come back as a dragon and destroy people's crops

[Anonymous No.10446119]

>>10446083
STOP WORSHIPPING FOREIGN RELIGIONS

[Anonymous No.10446124]

>>10446100
you wont get reborn you pathetic faggot

[Anonymous No.10446132]

>the virgin nirvana vs the chad samsara

[Anonymous No.10446142]

>>10446083
broke: reincarnation is due to karma, nirvana is not reincarnating anymore

woke: reincarnation is random and unfair, nirvana is accepting that there is infinite suffering in your future

[Anonymous No.10446152]

>>10446124
but... you will.

the only hope for ceasing the suffering, the all-ensnaring falsehoods of flesh, is to achieve gnosis; to live in the Astral Light that disperses throughout entirety, being one with everything, entrapped in a neon blue caul.

C'mon, anon.

[Anonymous No.10446164]

>when you realize Buddhists are anti-natalists

[Anonymous No.10446173]

>not embracing this perpetual becoming head on

silly untermensch

[Anonymous No.10446175]

>>10446164
>buddhists are anti-natalists

[Anonymous No.10446191]

>>10446119
So Christianity's out of the question then?

[Anonymous No.10446195]

>>10446191
Correct
all crackers in Murica should worship native Gods

[Anonymous No.10446206]

>>10446164
>when you realize that buddhists are non-consecutivist anti-natalists

[Anonymous No.10446224]

>>10446195
Not exactly what I had in mind

[Anonymous No.10446258]

>>10446224
>odin
>hurrr my interpretation of the fucking sun is better than yours

Paganfags will never learn.

[OP's DADDY No.10446266]

>>10446258
>b-but muh desperate grab for identity

[Anonymous No.10446267]

>>10446111
this is an interesting turn to buddhism

[Anonymous No.10446281]

Impossible. Reminder that Buddhism is the most retarded religion right after the Abrahamic ones. You can't obtain divine enlightenment in this mortal body

[Anonymous No.10446291]

>>10446175
>>10446164

What exactly is wrong with that?

[Anonymous No.10446314]

>>10446281
>t. actual retard

[Anonymous No.10446331]

>>10446291
Nothing. It's just a new hivemind by dumb people that thought bacon was awesome in 2012.

[Anonymous No.10446345]

>>10446331

[Anonymous No.10446369]

>>10446314
epic argument my fellow intellectual!

[Anonymous No.10446393]

>>10446369
>You can't obtain divine enlightenment in this mortal body

Where are you getting that from? How long have you tried to get to it? Are you interested in the occult? Gnosticism?

Sounds like a lot of nonsense from a brainlet desu.

[Anonymous No.10446421]

>>10446393

[Anonymous No.10446443]

>>10446083
GET CONFIDENT, STUPID!

[Anonymous No.10446447]

I worship the sun. It gives us like :)

[Anonymous No.10446534]

>>10446164
They are not, they merely dislike the god of this world, without having direct access to the One True God.

[belief !9Im2b.ZGro No.10446551]

>>10446281
yes you can.
It requires an OBE, and ego death.

>inb4 ego never leaves
Not the same idea of ego retard

[Anonymous No.10446561]

>>10446083
being born into a womb is supposed to be a supremely claustrophobic and agonizing process according to tibetan buddhism. you're accosted by the four elements for months, becoming more and more stunted, denser, stuffed into a frail form until you're either pulled/pushed out or blending up by an abortionist

[Anonymous No.10446732]

>>10446100

no

[Anonymous No.10446736]

>>10446152
fake and gay

[Anonymous No.10446741]

>>10446732
>someone actually wasted their time making that

lmao

[Anonymous No.10446751]

>>10446741
>wasted their time

all of 30 seconds? And how long did it take for you to respond to it?

Also it is accurate

[Anonymous No.10446786]

What's the smallest thing one can get reincarnated as? Maybe nirvana will be achieved if we kill all life on Earth

[Anonymous No.10446823]

>>10446786
the whole point is that you can't get out of the cycle by "cheating the system" the system itself is inherent to all existence

[Anonymous No.10446834]

>>10446393
I am interested in the occult. There's never been anybody on this planet that has actually ever obtained enlightenment so that's how I know

>>10446551
lol, implying ego death exists

[Anonymous No.10446839]

>>10446823
The history of humanity is the history of cheating the system, so who knows.
And that still doesn't answer my question of what happens when all life on Earth dies. I'm genuinely curious what the real answer would be.

[Anonymous No.10446849]

>>10446823
What if every human on earth made a pact never to have children but are still unenlightened. Could they be reborn into another human life? What would they reborn as?

[Anonymous No.10446888]

>>10446839
Buddhism is not limited to Earth. That doesn't mean they had idea of alien worlds back then in the sense we speak now, but the very notion of life is different. It is an open idea of all experience. You can interpret it that you have many lives in your own life (you die constantly and is reborn constantly, you are angry then you are calm, you do this then you do that).

When you die, things continue. It doesn't matter how long it takes or where it is. Things go on. What is reborn is not a soul that lives inside you and that emerges on another creature, what goes on is the fact that your actions had an effect on the world and whatever new consciousness arise will have to deal with that. To buddhism there is a variety of possible ways to live, represented by the six realms. One is that of animals, who are too concerned with survival. Another is the devas who live brilliant lifes who appear to be eternal but that end nevertheless. Another is the hungry creatures, with tiny throats and big stomachs, living in constant lack, wandering through a wasteland always starving. Humans, to buddhism, hold a special place in which we can have a bit of everything and so we are not alienated by pleasure as the devas or in constant suffering and we are intelligent enough to be conscious of ourselves. Therefore, we are in the perfect place to meditate about it.

Kill everything on earth and so what? There are other places, other planets. There are "places" we don't know yet, dimensions we might not consider in our lifetime. Buddhism is open to that, its cosmology is open, but the logic is the same. You start to live because you cling to life and you die suffering because you miss life and so things will repeat until you realize the truth one day. We are all enlightened btw, we just don't know it, and it doesn't matter how many billion lives we have, suffering, evil, then good and virtuous, then evil again and so on, in the end we are all going to make it.

OP is just joking, but it's why you can say somethign like in the imperative. There is no hurry whatsoever. It's just something you realize.

[Anonymous No.10446900]

>>10446732
>God love is person
>Person not is person
>Person love is God

[Anonymous No.10446901]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGUpYD_Ze_E

[belief !9Im2b.ZGro No.10446903]

>>10446834
Yeah, its the rebirth of the self.

Ego doesn't leave, but it dies and is reborn like a phoenix

[Anonymous No.10446934]

>>10446124
>Random anon on an anime website confidently believes he's smarter than Gautama Buddha.
How is this level of delusion possible?

[Anonymous No.10447018]

>>10446834
You're wrong. Very wrong.

Go away if you're just gonna be a negative force.

Fucking narcissist.

[Anonymous No.10447036]

>>10446421
This gif has absolutely no relation to gnosticism at all.

Why do you confuse things so readily?

[Anonymous No.10447071]

>>10447036
No but it does have to do with conceiving new people while holding Christian or Muslim doctrine.

[Anonymous No.10447140]

>>10447071
No it kind of makes sense with Muslims because they believe humans are spiritually pure creations of God.

[Anonymous No.10447167]

>>10447140
the point is you might as well be an arsonist who pats himself off the back when the fire rescue shows up and saves a few people.

[Anonymous No.10447186]

>>10447167
The point is that this doesn't make any sense for Islam because Islam sees humans as pure creations.

[Anonymous No.10447286]

>>10447167
you have no idea what you're talking about

take that teenage edge somewhere else

[Anonymous No.10447336]

>>10446281
It is by reaching for the perfect that we'll touch excellence

You're just contempt with being mediocre

[Anonymous No.10447346]

>>10446834
>i am interested in the occult (that which is hidden)
>Lol no one has ever reached it thats why
Ever considered you dont know about it cause ts hidden you dumb nigger

[Anonymous No.10447374]

>>10447286
Explain please

[Anonymous No.10447404]

>>10447336
That's not what enlightenment means in buddhism. You're not improving yourself by sitting around, pretending to be happy and spiritual

>>10447346
Doesn't make sense for the primary goal of a major religion to be hidden knowledge.

>>10447018
Lmao

[Anonymous No.10447440]

Wow, bunch of brainlets trying to figure out the meaning of existence. How about you wake the fuck up and realise your never going to know. If you're living the same perpetual life over and over, so be it. If you're reborn as another, so be it. What difference does it make if you're aware of it or not? It makes absolutely no difference. And there theres the paradox of free will, the ultimate paradox.

[Anonymous No.10447457]

>>10447440
Your post represents how Zen reacted to Buddhism

Except the last part about free will, you just think it's the ultimate paradox because the teenagers on 4chan love to debate it over and over again.

[Anonymous No.10447678]

>>10446164
Are they though? They literally have baby blessing ceremonies in the most buddhist parts of the world. Heck they even get to name them (well mostly because moms believe its a good omen but still).

[Anonymous No.10447804]

>>10446164
Why do Buddhist have babbies

[Anonymous No.10448193]

*trips and falls into an endless guilt spiral of suffering and rebirth*
I told you about Samsara bro

[Anonymous No.10448202]

*experiences enlightenment and breaks cycle*

[Anonymous No.10448274]

>>10446888
this x1000

[Anonymous No.10448794]

Joke's on all of you, I'm a transcendental materialist.

[Anonymous No.10448928]

>>10448794
>not a transcendental transcendentalist

[Anonymous No.10448977]

>they don't know everyone on earth is an alien yet

[Anonymous No.10448993]

Discount hinduism lmao

[Anonymous No.10450003]

>>10447804
>Why do Buddhist have babbies
Because most real Buddhists around today don't actually care at all about any of the teachings and adhere to a form of Mahayana Buddhism that basically tells them to just pray to one of the Buddhas in exactly the same way Western people do with God so he can make sure you get reborn into the "pure land" where it'll be much easier for you to reach nibbana.
Most do not meditate or even try to reach nibbana in their current life, that stuff's limited to monks and Western people reading about Buddhism who weren't brought up in the religion themselves.

[Anonymous No.10450015]

>>10446934
Indians literally shit in public, I'll believe Anon any day over a Pajeet

[Anonymous No.10450020]

>>10450015
>Indians
Good thing he was closer to modern-day Nepalese then.

[Anonymous No.10450030]

>>10448977
When I was a kid I had a nightmare in which I was at my grandmother's house and all the chairs were on top of the tables and there were boxes everywhere, as if it was closed down movie studio. My grandmother appeared and I realized she was an alien. She opened up a big eye in the middle of her forehead that sucked me in and erased my memory of that vision. When I woke up, I realized everyone in the entire world including my close family and friends were aliens pretending to live as humans just for me. I thought that it wasn't a dream, it was just that her memory wiping didn't work. From then on I'm living pretending the memory wipe actually worked so not to wake the aliens up from the illusion they have built for me and make a plan to escape in the meantime.

I'm telling you this, mr alien, because I'm ready. Come at me

[Anonymous No.10450031]

>>10450020
Same shit, different streets

[Anonymous No.10450032]

>>10450015
He was born in Lumbini, Nepal and Buddhism has been notably unpopular in India.

[Anonymous No.10450043]

>>10450031
He had blue eyes and white skin apparently. Don't know why you're hating on a fellow white Aryan, amerimutt.

[Anonymous No.10450052]

>>10450015
Modern western people literally have to shit in private because they are ashamed of their bodies after centuries of religion oppression, they expend billions on doors and toilets. They shit in water and pretend that poop just vanishes away.

[Anonymous No.10450056]

>>10450043
>He had blue eyes and white skin apparently.

And you actually believe this shit?

[Anonymous No.10450059]

>>10450052
Bodies are disgusting and people should be ashamed of them, especially their assholes

[Anonymous No.10450065]

>>10450056
Do people actually not understand where the word 'Aryan' comes from? Buddha was a Scythian/Aryan. If you look at anyone from Nepal or even Afghanistan, they're mixed between white and Asian (probably from centuries of migration).

[Anonymous No.10450067]

>>10450015
>>10450031
Siddhārtha Gautama was Mahajanapada era, they're actually noteworthy as an ancient civilization for having sophisticated drainage / toilet systems. Jesus probably didn't have as good a defecation system available as Buddha did.
https://wikivisually.com/wiki/Mahajanapada
>The civilization is noted for its cities built of brick, roadside drainage system, the baths and toilets system the cities had is acknowledged as one of the most advanced in the ancient world.

[Anonymous No.10450075]

>>10450067
So what you're saying is, people started shitting in the streets AFTER they started listening to him
Hmm...

[Anonymous No.10450076]

>>10450052
Of course it couldn't have anything to do with hygiene, sanitation, odor, etc., right?

[Anonymous No.10450078]

>>10450065
Most Nepalese people look like straight up call center apu Pajeets. I don't know where this idea they're all Mongoloids came from

[Anonymous No.10450082]

>>10446100
Wait, what? What do I have to do and why?

[Anonymous No.10450089]

>>10450075
No, people have historically not listened to him much in India, we've been over this.
Japan, China, and Thailand are where he caught on.

[Anonymous No.10450107]

>>10450089
Look I can't argue all these historic technicalities all day. All I know is that if I go to his place of birth I will have to be careful not to step on humanshit and that marks a clear theological failure to me

[Anonymous No.10450109]

>>10450107
Less than 1% of India is Buddhist so your point is wrong. Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.10450112]

>>10450109
That's clearly part of his failure. He lost. I'm sorry

[Anonymous No.10450117]

>>10450109
He's talking about Nepal, which scored pretty high on the shit street map.

[Anonymous No.10450128]

Ok.

[Anonymous No.10450131]

>>10450112
>4th largest religion in the world
>Failure
Also over 2% of India is Christian so you have more of an argument that Christians shit in public.

[Anonymous No.10450133]

>>10448928
That's just Buddhism, Anon.

[Anonymous No.10450136]

>>10450117
80% of Nepal is Hindu.
By any objective metric Buddhism has fewer street shitters than Hinduism or Christianity.

[Anonymous No.10450138]

>>10450131
Jesus wasn't born in India. Look at the map, Israel and Palestine, European tier shit-free streets

[Anonymous No.10450143]

>>10450003
Amidism is basically the Chad Stride of Buddhism.

[Anonymous No.10450151]

>>10450136
The Bible clearly teaches that one should show dignity and shame when it comes to shitting. When did the Buddha ever tell people not to shit in the street?
Street shitting seems very consistent with Buddhist theology to me

[Anonymous No.10450152]

>>10450138
>Jesus wasn't born in India.
Neither was Buddha. Also people did not shit in the streets at the time and place Buddha was around and the Roman Empire shared communal sponge sticks to clean their asses.

[Anonymous No.10450162]

>>10450152
The communal sponge was a major step in the right direction. It might not be pretty but it says progress. Meanwhile Buddhas land went in the wrong direction after his teachings

[Anonymous No.10450168]

>>10450151
Ezekiel 4:12
>>10450162
Shitting in the street is better than sharing an ass sponging stick, I don't know how you could even come close to convincing yourself otherwise. Would you rather share an ass stick with someone than take a shit in the street?

[Anonymous No.10450170]

>>10450162
>The communal sponge was a major step in the right direction.
The next step is to stick it up yours, anon

[Anonymous No.10450175]

>>10450162
>Buddhist land went in the wrong direction...

Yeah, modern conditions in India have everything to do with Buddha and nothing to do with Imperialism

[Anonymous No.10450183]

>>10450168
Nobody forced you to use the ass sponge. But I can tell you I would way prefer to live in a city where people shit like that than a city that smells like shit everywhere

[Anonymous No.10450187]

>>10450175
>Is wypipos fault we dindu nuffin!

Yeah right, like the British went around banning toilets

[Anonymous No.10450194]

>>10450175
Best cosplay I've ever seen

[Anonymous No.10450197]

>>10450187
They turned India into a big factory for goods though. I wouldn't be surprised if it put funds away from public infrastructure like plumbing, created high growth (creating poverty and great migrations to the city), etc.

[Anonymous No.10450210]

>>10450197
You realize half of India were princely states which had control over their own infrastructure spending right? I've seen no correlation between relative autonomy of civil service and street shitting

[Anonymous No.10450217]

>>10450194
if you like it so much why don't you marry it?

[Anonymous No.10450226]

>>10450152
>In ninth century China, Chan Master Yúnmén Wényan (known in Japan as Ummon Zenji) made quite an amazing impact by deflating all such forms of piety. His most famous one-liner stemmed from a question posed to him by a monk. The question from the monk was, “What’s the Buddha?” His answer: “A dried shit-stick.”
>Kōshō Uchiyama writes that Auguste Rodin's The Thinker, in which the "back, waist, legs, arms, and even fingers" are curled up, is the opposite of zazen posture.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzXPyCY7jbs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cj2iD7Y6mQg

[Anonymous No.10450232]

>>10450210
It's worse in the North (which was British-controlled). There also seems a very slightly less defecation in Muslim parts.

[Anonymous No.10450240]

>>10450232
That's literally just a representation of population density

[Anonymous No.10450243]

>>10450232
But isn't Bangladesh super Muslim? That part next to it is the most looless.

[Anonymous No.10450261]

>>10450243
>Sunnis
>Muslim

[Anonymous No.10450263]

>>10450175
Fantastic.

[Anonymous No.10450276]

>>10450217
>marry mystique
www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeMFqkcPYcg

[Anonymous No.10450280]

>>10446934
Buddha was an illiterate farmer and so were his Arhats. Their religion either came from angry Brahmins or peasants. He wasn’t a prince and the story about the Bodhi tree did not happen, Vulture-Mountain didn’t happen, none of it is real. You retard. And believing in reincarnation despite 99% of Buddhists having rejected in already is pathetic. You’re pathetic to me

[Anonymous No.10450281]

>>10450232
Referencing this map with a population map the only outlier between population density and street shifting is Kerela and Goa, which are coincidentally the historic centres of Christianity in India since the arrival of St Thomas

Interdasting

[Anonymous No.10450290]

>guys, in order to know if this religion is worth our time first we have to learn how they cleaned their asses when they thought about it

i'm not complaining, this is just a funny debate, imagine if all conversation went like that

[Anonymous No.10450293]

>>10450281
Pic related

[Anonymous No.10450297]

>>10450280
>Buddha was an illiterate farmer
How do you know this?
>He wasn’t a prince and the story about the Bodhi tree did not happen, Vulture-Mountain didn’t happen, none of it is real.
Where did you take this from?
>And believing in reincarnation despite 99% of Buddhists having rejected in already is pathetic
source please

not that anon btw

[Anonymous No.10450298]

>>10450065
>Scythians are Aryans
no
>Aryan means the ariosophy thing
no
>Nepalese and Tibetans are the same race
no
>they are the same race as Northern Indians and Pakis
no
>those aforementioned Indus Valley races are NORDIC WHYTES
no
>there were a large number of blue eyed germanic/nordids near India in 1000 BCE
no
>there ever were even a small number nearby
no
>Buddha was a whyte
he was a caucasian which is a mostly meaningless designation since Jews, some Ethiopids. Berbers and Iranians are all caucasians right now.
>Buddha was real
no

you all need to jump on hot spikes

[Anonymous No.10450302]

>>10450297
>how do you know this
spending half a decade on buddhist forums
>how do you know the fake story didn’t happen
intuition
>most buddhists D-DON’T REJECT IT
lol at you you fucking nigger

[Anonymous No.10450323]

>>10450302
I was not shitting on what you said, I was genuinely asking you, dipshit.

>I was just talking out of my ass what I think seems right
ok then

[Anonymous No.10450340]

>>10450323
>i have years of experience with these people
>have debated with them for endless hours
>i didn’t get what i wanted so it must be bunk
go donate to your sangha or pray to buddha-jesus anon

[Anonymous No.10450346]

>>10450302
>spending half a decade on buddhist forums
So this is the scholarship of /lit/...

[Anonymous No.10450347]

>>10450298
>The people on this piece of land aren't of the same racial stock as the people of the two pieces of land it's between.
I'm not sure what you're implying here, Anon.

[Anonymous No.10450353]

>>10450347
probably that inbreeding happens when you live anywhere nearly as mountainous as switzerland.

[Anonymous No.10450355]

>>10450302
>spending half a decade on buddhist forums

[Anonymous No.10450360]

>>10450353
>Inbreeding makes people into a new race.
By that rule Britons wouldn't even be considered human...

...actually that explains a lot.

[Anonymous No.10450361]

>>10450194
I bet the mystique side of her costume got really cold in the air-conditioned convention center

[Anonymous No.10450369]

>>10450360
you should see the tomato babies that come from finland and the mormons, anon. the brits can't compete even with norfolk.

[Anonymous No.10450370]

>>10450187
>he didn't say "hindu nuffin"

wasted opportunity, cracka