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10426999 No.10426999 [Reply] [Original]

>A book is bad because the main character isn't (or characters aren't) "likeable"

Is this legitimate criticism or just normie claptrap?

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>> No.10427010 [DELETED] 

>>10426999
Do you people say 'normies' unironically?

>is this legitimate
Depends on why they read, you thick cunt

>> No.10427017

Of course not. Hal incandenza is a fucking brat that should have been drwoned right after being born, but Infinite Jest is still a great book

Same about Ishmael and Moby Dick

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>>10427010
>us saying 'normies' ironically

>> No.10427362

>>10426999
That cover is sexy as hell. Where can I cop a hardcover copy of Catcher?

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>>10426999

>be in high school
>read Catcher in the Rye
>everybody hates it because "lol whiny kid"
>try to defend him and say he's admirable for caring for children's innocence
>everybody makes fun of me and makes jokes about me wanting to kill John Lennon

>> No.10427409

>>10427362
I looked around on AbeBooks, and it looks like that edition with an intact dust jacket would probably set you back a few hundred dollars.

>> No.10427414

>>10427362
>>10427409
First edition UK copy

>> No.10427435

>>10427376
John Lennon was a piece of shit and I’m glad he’s dead.

>> No.10427481

>>10426999
Its an awful criticism, and outs the reviewer as casual trash.

Saying a character isn't relatable or believable conveys a similar idea and won't make you sound as dumb (but playing that card against a classic is quite conceited).

Criticisms of this type almost always shed more light on the reviewer than the work in question. An inability to understand why someone might act a certain way suggests poor empathy or underdeveloped theory of mind.

Catcher in the Rye is a good example. If you find yourself unable to understand why Holden acts the way he does its probably because you are a self-absorbed brainlet; and not because a famous classic is actually bad and you are the first one to figure it out.

>> No.10427495

>>10427481
I was following until you said the word brainlet. Your comment is casual trash.

>> No.10427498

>>10426999
Depends if it is on purpose or not

>> No.10427828

>>10427481
But then why does Holden act the way he does?

>> No.10427856

>>10427828

>dead little brother
>gone big brother
>saw his friend suicide
>was molested

I genuinely think that people who think Holden's just "le whiny kid" never actually read the book. His anxiety about death and loss of innocence is so obvious.

>> No.10428182

>>10427017
Ishmael is /ourgoy/

>> No.10428201

>>10427435
How dare you. Imagine, if you will, that there's no heaven. It's easy if you try

>> No.10429027

>>10428201
Wow. That's fucking deep.

>> No.10429199

>>10426999
I liked it although the ending was pretty gay.

>> No.10429233

>>10426999
Well what do you think? Do you think morons from /lit/ can tell you the indisputable truth regarding this problem?

>> No.10429247

>>10427828
did you read the book or pay attention you fucking brainlet