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>at university
>some peeps are discussing Plato
>"dude did you know Plato invented fascism?"
>"haha yeah those old people were really weird"

>> No.10292189

>t. things that never happened
In no university would people make such retarded claims.

>> No.10292539

>>10292189
http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/cambridge-decolonize-english-syllabus-purging-white-authors don't you know the western canon is racist?

>> No.10292701

>>10292539
Oh wow.

>> No.10292737

>>10292189
>In no university would people make such retarded claims.

this is the most retarded claim ever though.

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>>10292189
Lol no

>> No.10292766

>>10292189
You have a false sense of reality, these things happen sadly.

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>>10292539
>The letter, titled “Decolonising the English Faculty” read: “For too long, teaching English at Cambridge has encouraged a ‘traditional’ and ‘canonical’ approach that elevates white male authors at the expense of all others.

>> No.10292782

>>10292189
You are wrong my friend, universities are now filled with ultra liberal retards

>> No.10292823

>>10292775
What are you supposed to teach if not English at FUCKING HARVARD?

>> No.10292843

>>10292539
Does that really include Plato?

Most leftists love Plato, seeing as how force is the only way to implement both ideas.

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>>10292539
>Truth Revolt
That whole story is based on lies, I'm sick of these bottom-of-the barrel right-wing tabloids making shit up to aggravate their geriatric readerships.

>> No.10292861

>>10292848
There are hundreds of videos of what goes on in American universities and colleges, you have to be pretty invested in left-wing politics to pretend to not have noticed.

>> No.10292869

>>10292189
People do insist on this, it's a commonplace derived from Karl Popper.

>> No.10292878

>>10292861
I'm not American and I don't really care what goes on in your universities. The article in question is about Cambridge.

>> No.10292893

>>10292166
Invented is a bit far, but contributed heavily to making it a superficially attractive ideology would be pretty accurate

>> No.10292913

>>10292189
The sweet naivety of high school

>> No.10292926

That's the treatment Plato deserves. Ancient Greek philosophy is utterly valueless

>> No.10292930

>>10292861
>my fake news isn't fake because...

>> No.10292943

>>10292926
Woah....I guess we should stop making foudnations to anything....

>> No.10292948

>>10292701

Wow. Just wow.

>> No.10292955

>>10292948
Excuse me for not being up to date with academia nowadays.

>> No.10292961

>>10292943
foundations and origins are not the same thing.

>> No.10292968

>>10292961
I am quite aware.

>> No.10293877

>>10292189
I had a kid yell at me last week for questioning his premise that men or women don't differ biologically during the James Demore shit-show. the teacher backed him up.

the very next week I made the claim that they do in my own presentation in regards to trait agreeableness and they both nodded along.

normies in liberal arts classes aren't even smart enough for logical consistency. I don't know why you think bad takes are surprising

>> No.10295070

>>10292166
plato is pretty facist

>> No.10295098

can we discuss how plato was problematic?

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>>10295098
i can't even right now

>> No.10295251

>>10292189
probably not unfortunately
>be me
>mention Nietzsche to someone
>"isn't that the guy that nazism is based on?"

>> No.10295275

>>10295251
That is false, and it took a Jew named Kaufmann to actually stop Nietzsche from being banned for 'Nazism'. It's a pretty widespread meme, so I don't think they're a complete idiot, especially if they're not a philosophy major.

>> No.10295300

>>10292861
>you have to be pretty invested in left-wing politics to pretend to not have noticed.

I've noticed this a lot, we should give it a name: "false consoysness".

>> No.10295322

>>10292166
Plato's ideal society looked very much like fascism. It was a militaristic dictatorship ruled by philosophers.

>> No.10295366

>>10292878

>I'm not American and I don't really care what goes on in your universities. The article in question is about Cambridge.

Where the same thing is happening. Saying you don't care reveals your intentions. He's right. You are heavily invested in left wing politics. The original letter states that, "We believe that literature and the act of studying literature is not apolitical." So to say you don't care either means: you either ignore it ("I don't care"), make excuses for it, or amp up your own sides politics. Your intentions are probably one of the latter two.

>> No.10295386

>>10295322
good?

>> No.10295388

>>10292166
That's crazy, some old retard told me the exact same thing at a bookstore yesterday. He was wearing a UC Berkeley shirt; would that happen to be the university where you heard that?

>> No.10295417

>>10292861
Cambridge is run by people unironically called "dons" and inbreds who were given land for bonking someone else with a club in the 12th Century and held on to it since. It's not an American left wing university.

>> No.10295431

I had a friend who told me his prof claimed Cephalus was an arms dealer lol

>> No.10295432

>>10295386
So it's not outlandish that people not that educated would say it in conversation with friends wherein they don't have to censor themselves for fear of being wrong.