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[Anonymous No.10283344]

Have you ever had any experiences with psychedelics or experienced ego death, /lit/? If so, share them in this thread please.

[Anonymous No.10283371]

Does going from mania into full blown psychosis count?

[Anonymous No.10283383]

>>10283371
Sure, why not?

[Anonymous No.10283416]

>>10283371
yep, ego-death is a self-delusion and buzzword

[Anonymous No.10283420]

For high doses I've had rapturous bliss off mushrooms, glowing colors from mescaline and dissociation into some purgatory off lsd or probably a rc. Felt like 24hrs of looping uncomfort and random memories being superimposed onto the now blank state of consciousness, would have been cool to live in the weird dream state if I didn't immediately forget them, I remember like three or four out of maybe over a hundred? Oh yeah and another time I saw eyes and faces everywhere. I'd say do it once and then be done with it. Low dose lsd is the most /lit/,it feels like the saturation on life get's turned up like pic related, and there's a weird electric current pulsing through your body that puts you (atleast for me) on edge in a kind of good way

[Anonymous No.10283448]

>>10283383
Mania makes me productive and impulsive, I either write a lot or draw a lot. I sleep less or shorter, and as time passes get more agitated. I have a urgent need then to express myself but I’m not the type who talks about it but rather puts it on paper. Mania feels good and makes me feel good about myself. At some time psychosis kicks in and the good feelings turn into illusions of grandeur. When psychotic I see in everything something hidden, and often something directed to me. At the last stage I get paranoid and – first time psychosis - scared shitless.

I’m not sure if ego death is a thing, but I’ve experienced a moment that – and this was before mania and psychosis – during long times of depression and self-loathing, that I broke down and felt nothing. Afterwards it felt like I was another person. It is akin to the experience I’ve had when going through severe cold, rain or intense exercise – first you feel it, then you go numb and afterwards you get the endorphin rush - though the latter is more typical of mania than that of ‘ego-death’. So instead of a rush I get a more spiritual experience - it as if I'm reborn. I'm still very much the same mind you, but that's what I feel and I do change in my tastes and worldview.

The first psychosis was a terrible experience, I did weird and stupid things, and I felt an immense shame. It has taken years to recover. I feel changed after a psychosis too, and some things never change, but some do I feel. I hate psychosis and it has grown a skepticism in my mind. I do love mania - well - if I could contain it, and am trying to. Sometimes I get a bit mania and nothing happens, and it is fun and at times productive. I can get in a flow during mania.
>>10283416
I think ego-death is not real but the feeling.

[Anonymous No.10283466]

>>10283344
Sure i take them every once in a while to reflect on life, of course theres also a recreational aspect to them. Haven't experienced ego death though, i have some changa i've yet to try though, that'll probably help to achieve ego death.

[Anonymous No.10283721]

>>10283448
>I’m not sure if ego death is a thing, but I’ve experienced a moment that – and this was before mania and psychosis – during long times of depression and self-loathing, that I broke down and felt nothing. Afterwards it felt like I was another person. It is akin to the experience I’ve had when going through severe cold, rain or intense exercise – first you feel it, then you go numb and afterwards you get the endorphin rush - though the latter is more typical of mania than that of ‘ego-death’. So instead of a rush I get a more spiritual experience - it as if I'm reborn. I'm still very much the same mind you, but that's what I feel and I do change in my tastes and worldview.
I have had this, I think a lot of people do. Does the feeling of newness last more than a few days for you?

[Anonymous No.10283728]

Yes. I live in Brazil and sometimes I go to Santos daime reunions and drink the ahyuasca tea. Will go to desktop do explain further my experiences

[Anonymous No.10283902]

>>10283721
Also interested. I'd like to make it last

[Anonymous No.10283907]

Ego death was neat

[Anonymous No.10283916]

>>10283416
What exactly is it?
Is it something like a loss of identity?
Can't you say that the perception of identity is a self-delusion in the first place?

[Anonymous No.10284085]

I've taken psychedelics, but I didn't experience ego death until I got married.

[Anonymous No.10284422]

>>10283344
>If so, share them in this thread please.
no pearls before swine

[Anonymous No.10284470]

>>10283448
Glad to see decalcomania on /lit/ desu

[Anonymous No.10284534]

>>10283416
The transition was total desolation. From having a consciousness apart from the world to not being able to distinguish where self and body ended and the rest of world began. Somehow being aware of everythings existence, but from the dispassionate point of view of a bedframe or wall rather than an individual.

[Anonymous No.10284583]

>>10284085
kek

[Anonymous No.10284729]

>>10283344
(sorry for my english)

With dissociatives I sometimes felt that suddenly I have lost the boundaries between the external world and what I believe to be me. It's like "me" was not a kind of internal world but the separation itself.

So I was still able to see, think or move but was in a kind of fusion with the world. I was my room and vaguely the universe. Unable to feel what was me and what was not, couldn't keep or reject anything. It's a very disturbing sensation, associated with the classical " OMG I m totally unsane and this will not end" which is not true.

Maybe I got the same kind of effects from lsd, also on mushrooms I got the full
>I'm dying
>I finally accept it
>well I'm not dead, I'm what remains

Notes : You can be very high but not in ego death. The death-reborn structure is heavily linked with initiation rites.

[Anonymous No.10284739]

>>10284534
Does it live up to the hype?

[Anonymous No.10284741]

>>10283344
I took half a tab of acid and it ddin't do much for me. I felt like an autist for like the entire day, and also felt anxious, waiting for the acid to take full effect.

Why could that be? My friends and i think it was because we didn't conserve apporpiately.

[Anonymous No.10284761]

>>10284741
Maybe your dose was too low. Between microdosing and a full trip there is a semitrip which is unsatisfacting, brings tension and anxiety

[Anonymous No.10285186]

>>10283344
The first time I did acid my friend gave me a milk dud and I wasn't prepared for how shitty and stiicky it was and I became reincarnated as a molecule of milk dud in my own mouth.

[Anonymous No.10285213]

>>10285186
i audibly laughed out loud

[Anonymous No.10285347]

>>10283344
I had my personality built up and then erased by ego-death.

[Anonymous No.10285593]

>>10285213
where's the butt

[Anonymous No.10285609]

I've dropped countless tabs of Dutch sent LSD that was so clean u can stay up the whole high and come down smoothly. I face ego death in almost every experience but I find it enjoyable asf just gotta start acting like your body is a robot and that everything is mind over matter. As for shrooms ego death was non existent just enjoyable asf. Then I smoked a heavy dose of DMT and this shit was in effects as I sucked the pookie. Straight came out enlightened Asa lol hell. More profound then 450 UGs of LSD. But of course one has to reach an enlightenment in a natural sense to fully appreciate the psychedelic high. There must be a high level of strong will and the ability to let the drug overcome them and flow with it even though some feel like fighting it hence bad trip and no profound experience. Psychedelics have a special place in my heart. I've seen it turn people into zombies and unmotivated shits. One must realize that one is their own master and teacher. Follow your aspirations and passions cause if you ain't waking up and instantly have the go get it mindset then your being amerifags lazy and should kill yourself.

One thing that stuck with me was this
If God is real then he would want us to be the gods of our own life and have faith in ourselves rather than him cause he made us with supercomputer brains. But I don't believe in God but the saying works either way. Hope fellow intellectuals will relate to thus

[Anonymous No.10285611]

>>10285609
This is why I come to /lit/

[Anonymous No.10285615]

>>10285609

[Anonymous No.10285656]

I did mushrooms once and kept forgetting I had my own individual identity. I just assumed I was whatever was going on around me

[Anonymous No.10285716]

>>10283916
Ego/self-perception is a neurological phenomenon, drugs like LSD act on neuronal receptors in such a way that ego is inhibited or "split" - ever hear of people taking shrooms and talking to trees? They're displacing their own ego onto something else. I've always believed that the encounters with "entities" that people sometimes experience while tripping are a similar phenomenon

[Anonymous No.10285820]

Taken salvia divinorum, LSA, psilocybin truffles, and AMT. Never tripped hard enough to experience ego death unfortunately. Had a really great time on psilocybin, a very blissful experience. My AMT trip was much tougher and I spent most of it being sick/feverish, but it was still an interesting experience.

Unfortunately I became depressed about four years ago and thought it would be irresponsible to keep using psychedelics, so I stopped. Thinking about trying psilocybin again though, and I'd love to try ayahuasca, peyote and DMT in the future - maybe LSD too. I'm not as depressed as I used to be, and I think sensible use of psychedelics is a great way to help you to see the world with a new perspective and re-discover a happier mode of being

[Anonymous No.10285840]

i took three doses of lsd on my last birthday. some strong stuff. i imagined murdering my whole family. i had a delusion that the girl i had been with for a year (i met her on /soc/ but we never met irl) was someone i made up, and that when the trip was over i would assume her identity and be a transgirl. i imagined that i murdered my family, and that i would be taken to a mental hospital. i imagined that i would continue believing my life would continue exactly as it was, only it was a delusion of a version of me that REALLY went insane and murdered my family, that unknown to me i am really in a mental hospital. so now i live my life as normal, but there is something always in the back of my head that says none of this is real.

don't take lsd, kids.

[Anonymous No.10285846]

Why the fuck would you want to kill your ego?

[Anonymous No.10285848]

i took three doses of lsd on my last birthday. some strong stuff. i imagined murdering my whole family. i had a delusion that the girl i had been with for a year (i met her on /soc/ but we never met irl) was someone i made up, and that when the trip was over i would assume her identity and be a transgirl. i imagined that i murdered my family, and that i would be taken to a mental hospital. i imagined that i would believe my life would continue exactly as it was, only it was a delusion of a version of me that REALLY went insane and murdered my family, that unknown to me i am really in a mental hospital. so now i live my life as normal, but there is something always in the back of my head that says none of this is real.

don't take lsd, kids.

[Anonymous No.10285944]

>>10285846
spooks turn people insane

[Anonymous No.10285948]

>>10283344
>he needs drugs to experience God

smug_martin_buber.jpg

[Anonymous No.10285959]

>>10285848
Jesus that sounds like a really fucked up trip

[Anonymous No.10286012]

>>10283344
ego-death is easy, first time it happened I was playing games and then decided to stare at a wall for six hours. Pretty good meditation time, if you ask me.

[Anonymous No.10286021]

During the summer of 1997 I was in the regular weekly habit of ingesting 10 hits of acid every Friday or Saturday night. During one particular astral projection I lost myself and became as an omnipresent being witnessing the birth life and death of entire universes across a timeline of infinity. But in that, I retained the ability and curiosity to watch the evolution of a myriad different sentient life forms. I watched their countless births, trials, successes, failures and deaths, and they numbered more than the stars in the sky. After witnessing such profound moments and events, I find it hard to relate to others as they talk about things in their lives I have witnessed countless times. I’ve seen this all before, I have been this all before, I have made and molded all this before.

[Anonymous No.10286190]

>>10285611
For incomprehensible, trite posts made by drug users?

I agree.

[Anonymous No.10286266]

>>10285848
Fucking lightweight

[Anonymous No.10286275]

>>10286021
>take psychedelics
>lose ability to relate to other humans because i think I used to be a god

>>10285609
>takes psychedelics
>quotes Satan nearly word for word
>thinks it's divine wisdom


>>10285848
>take psychedelics
>have life-destroying delusions
>never be totally normal again

Psychedelics are demonic.

[Anonymous No.10286291]

I've done acid 5 times, 2 of which were as successful as follows and 3 of which weren't bad but weren't really noteworthy in any way. I really credit it with taking me as close as I've ever been to resolving many of my issues and insecurities with existence, reality, and society and such. For as long as I can remember I've had, not nearly as much anymore, an anxiety prevailing the idea of creating art. I'm not entirely sure why this anxiety exists but it basically is reduced to the fact that creating art makes zero sense to me and I in no way am capable of wrapping my head around its process. In my worst midst of this mindset I felt alien to all art, criticizing things like sitting in movie theaters or going to art galleries because I would reduce it to something that it wasn't.
Anyways I always try to enter my trips with these conflicts in my mind so I can see if a new perspective is to be gained from the experience and oh man. Once I did acid all my insecurity and anxiety about art disappeared, suddenly something that had never made any sense to me was completely understood. In fact the one thing I didn't understand was how I didn't understand it before. I felt a deep reverence for every artist that had ever created something, a reflection of their individuality and a partaking in a process that as a human i had a right to as well. It may be hard for someone reading this to understand my specific anxiety but you have to understand that the very encounter with art made me anxious and confused.
Though i lost this perspective once i was off my trips I see it as a goal to accomplish through my other trips, when I think I will be better suited and more ready to carry such an understanding away in my waking life.
I really would recommend acid to anyone who possesses strength of will and a moderate self-awareness. I was capable of stopping my trips from becoming bad based on the little reading I did of Marcus Aurelius. If you're nervous about doing it you should realize that that is a completely normal part about trying something as new and unparalleled in experience as psychedelics.

[Anonymous No.10286293]

I had a recent experience with LSD, and I am curious if it is something that you may say is "ego-death"-like.

I did it with some friends, in a basement, we didn't have much to do but talk with each other. I had a hard time talking as we all began peaking, but they tried to have serious conversations with each other and me. I couldn't really respond well, and I felt like verbal communication was not possible even though they seemed to be fine. I could barely talk, so I watched and listened to the questions they asked, the concern they showed for me when the things I was able to mutter or spit out were of a paranoid-slant. I believed, at the time, that I myself became like a undefined entity and my friends were aspects of me. I didn't assume responsibility of their decisions or actions in this moment, but moreso I felt that what they did was because of me, my confusion or desires. I saw it, and I felt fractured and a little scared to be honest. I remember being asked, before I really felt split or ambiguous, "what is it like?" and I remember uttering "s o l i p s i s t i c" like it was some dark curse, and once I said it I felt I sealed my fate. It was pretty intense, but everything ended alright and it was a very memorable trip.

[Anonymous No.10286331]

one time i robotripped with my friends and we became pokemon and the only things we could say were our names....

[Anonymous No.10286333]

>>10286291
>be mentally ill
>take psychedelics
>2/5 times it makes me feel like my mental illness has gone away temporarily
>keep taking psychedelics because I believe one of these times they'll cure my mental illness if I believe hard enough and am ready enough

>>10286293
>take psychelics
>become delusional paranoid solipsist
>feel confused and scared, under a dark curse

Psychedelics are demonic.

[Anonymous No.10286341]

>>10286333
was cool as shit, bro. try it some time. take my talon, I'll show you somethin sick.

[Anonymous No.10286429]

>>10283448
I want to hear more about the experience of psychosis

[Anonymous No.10286450]

>>10286333
>be mentally ill
>take psychedelics
>2/5 times it makes me feel like my mental illness has gone away temporarily
>keep taking psychedelics because I believe one of these times they'll cure my mental illness if I believe hard enough and am ready enough

The other 4 times I don't believe i was in the right environment, I was surrounded by people who I wasn't entirely conformable with when I would've preferred the company of close friends. And yeah it did "cure" my mental illness if that's the language you want to use, albeit for a short time i still experienced that awareness. My anxiety is born from a certain understanding of things and learning how to understand those things differently made me not feel anxious, simple as that. And I wouldn't be so confident in doing it again to find help for my anxiety if I didn't already experience a relief from it during a trip, you seem to be ignoring that fact. If you're confused how i think I'm going to take away something from a trip into my sober life that i didn't before than you possess a misunderstanding of the nature of psychedelics. It is not so easy to realize the understandings it leads us to in our everyday lives, in this case some experience with them helps.
Anyways think what you will but my well being is my own responsibility to take care of. 2 of those acid trips provided me with more insight into my issues than a year of therapy. Don't you think that's significant? And I'm not patronizing you friend I'm genuinely curious. If acid has offered me insight and profound help into finding relief from anxiety why should I try something different?

[Anonymous No.10286454]

>>10286450
microdosing LSD is a legitimate contemporary method of treating many kinds of illnesses. Be saf tho

[Anonymous No.10286505]

Psychedelics are useless, not matter what hedonists claim.

[Anonymous No.10286509]

>>10286450
>If acid has offered me insight and profound help into finding relief from anxiety why should I try something different?

It can make you worse than you were before. When you take psychedelics, you're giving your soul over to unknown powers to do with it what they will. You don't have to have a 'bad trip' to be irrevocably damaged. See that guy above who can't have a normal relationship with people because he thinks he was a god.

[Anonymous No.10286521]

>>10286429
Not that anon, but I've also experienced mania and for me it was only extreme constant "loose association" and occasionally audio hallucination. I tried to freeze to death in a lake in December because I thought David Bowie and the Aztecs were sending me signals to vibrate into another plane and wake up into a reality superior to our own. Weird stuff, but there were no visual hallucinations of David Bowie talking to me, specifically. I would hear "Oh! You Pretty Things!" like everyone else but *interpret* a batshit meaning out of it.

I've been told it can get to SZ-tier if you don't treat it, though.

[Anonymous No.10286524]

>>10286505

everyone whos ever taken them disagrees, interestingly enough

who is one to believe, someone willfully ignorant of the facts of the matter, or everyone who's had a life changing experience? or, for that matter, science?

http://www.bbc.com/news/health-17297714

LSD 'helps alcoholics to give up drinking'

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/10/14/magic-mushrooms-can-reboot-brain-treat-depression-study/

[Anonymous No.10286530]

>>10286521
neat

did you go to a psychiatrist?

[Anonymous No.10286556]

>>10286509
You make a big deal about giving myself over to unknown powers but thats precisely my experience with anxiety constantly day to day. In fact if they're both unknown by merit of how i lack an understanding in them than dropping acid to understand my anxiety stands as the better choice of the two from my understanding of what you're saying.
>>10286454
not sure who to contact about this but I have heard things

[Anonymous No.10286564]

>>10286333
Any major struggle has the potential to make or break a person. I’ve tripped on just about everything many times. Any of these substances show you aspects of yourself you might not be familiar with yet. There must be something to the fact that tripping becomes more comfortable and manageable the more times you do it. You are becoming more comfortable with the less conscious aspects of the self. I rarely see someone that has tripped more than 5 times advise against tripping. If you stupid, tripping will confuse you or scare you away. If you are strong and smart, tripping will be the best decision you make. I am positive that all of the anti-trippers here are repressed conservatives that are scared to face the buried fact that their conservative psychology has, hilariously, turned them gay. If these people trip, they see hell because their personal unconscious is so much different from their conscious self. Find me a brilliant person that has had a number of experiences with hallucinating and advises against it. There isn’t a single one because it makes good people great.

[Anonymous No.10286578]

>>10286564
Makin me tear up from all this truth!

[Anonymous No.10286586]

>>10286530
After a few days in the hospital, yeah. I was a psy undergrad at the time so I actually did my internship in the psych ward! Great stuff. My poorfag state probably isn't a good reference point for most experiences though.

If you're curious, everyone in my ward was into esoteric Hitlerism, with the exception of two nurses and a gay black guy. I ended up fucking a stimulant-psychotic who only ate the cafe's orange food and believed long hair maintained her Aryan vril energy.

[Anonymous No.10286590]

>>10286586
>esoteric hitlerism

wat

[Anonymous No.10286593]

>>10286590
It's Vedanta Hinduism, only Hitler is the avatar of Kalki and our present age is the 440,000 year reign of decay until nobility arises again.

[Anonymous No.10286605]

>>10286593

[Anonymous No.10286771]

>>10283420
microdosing lsd basically just makes you feel really fucking good i.e. the electric current feel for 8 or 9 hours

[Anonymous No.10286790]

>>10286605
don't trip too many times mah nigga

[Anonymous No.10287084]

I can reach ego death when taking lsd. You have to kinda submit to it and allow your self to fall away. The clearest time I was laying down the redwood forest, just staring at the canopy over head. My eyes were focused on everything and nothing at the same time and the world just kind of stops. I forgot what I was, what the world was for a few moments. Imagine what being a tree is like, it kinda felt like that just there. Then I heard a stick falling and it kinda snaps you out of it. you look at your hands and it all comes back seemless like. These are your hands. You are you. The world is yours.

[Anonymous No.10287106]

Dissociatives and deliriants are better than psychedelics desu

[Anonymous No.10288216]

>>10286021
who wins the superbowl this year?

[Anonymous No.10288220]

>>10283344
Yes.

I spent three years in and out of acute withdrawal from clonazepam, which was cross-complicated by pregabalin and sertraline. None of these were hallucinogens but it was excruciatingly painful all day every single day for over 1,000 days. There were days that I could hardly breathe, weeks where every muscle fiber felt as if it was lit on fire, and there were insects under my skin ripping me apart as my mind attempted to break its own threshold of chemical equilibrium and establish a new normal. You’re stripped of everything you believe about yourself and made honest in all of your perceptions and ideas. It’s like walking through a desert on fire. Malpractice is hell. It is as painful as it is divine and at the end of all things healing from it is he most rewarding and cathartic experience you can imagine.

It is very lonely, since very few ripple survive what I’ve survived. Nobody can walk down that road with you.

It sort of looks like this.

[Anonymous No.10288234]

>>10286564
>that their conservative psychology has, hilariously, turned them gay
lol

[Anonymous No.10288339]

>>10286429
I became psychotic after an LSD trip about a month and a half ago. It didn't happen immediately after the trip. It came on gradually over the course of three days. At first I was simply filled with a strong belief in God. Then one night I began to hear voices and thought one of the voices was Satan's voice tempting me to sin. On the other hand it could have been the Lord's voice, I wasn't sure. In any case I called over this girl I had been hooking up with and had sex with her, but eventually I freaked out and started calling her a whore because the voices seemed to decide she was of Satan and couldn't be trusted. She was weirded out and left. I began to believe that I was experiencing a psychic journey through hell itself. One of the voices told me that if I smoked some weed I would ascend out of hell into purgatory and eventually into heaven. I was reading the Divine Comedy at the time so that's all part of the backdrop as well.

I smoked the weed and that just made it worse. I became convinced I was Jesus or at the very least a prophet come back to announce the end times (North Korea was in the news so it made sense sort of). In a couple hours I hammered out a batshit crazy manifesto that said the world was a computer simulation and God was its programmer and sent it to seven of my favorite professors. Then I went to Catholic Mass twice in one day, once in English and once in Latin, both of which were absolutely awesome but the Latin was superior. I shared my revelation with the Latin mass priest but he freaked out and didn't accept it. Because of this I became worried I was the antichrist and that he would probably send hitmen from the Vatican to kill me.

[Anonymous No.10288342]

>>10288216
God
God wins every superbowl
he also loses them all

who else is there to do it?

[Anonymous No.10288359]

>>10288339
> I became convinced I was Jesus or at the very least a prophet come back to announce the end times
> shared my revelation with the Latin mass priest but he freaked out and didn't accept it. Because of this I became worried I was the antichrist

Have you read much Eastern Spiritualism? You sound like you could benefit from a less Western centred background

Alan Watts is very accessible

[Anonymous No.10288380]

Back in 2013 I bought 8 bitcoins at $20 each and ordered some mushrooms and LSD on the silk road.

Don't know if it counts as ego death, but on a large dose of LSD I fell into a time loop.

[Anonymous No.10288391]

>>10288339
(Cont)
I sat outside my apartment all night that evening (Sunday) drinking beer and waiting for the hitmen to come and get me, though I thought there was also a possibility my angels would come and rescue me. I wasn't entirely sure whether I was a good guy or a bad guy.

Eventually my true mission crystallized. I knew that the Prophecy of Malachy (real thing, look it up) showed that Pope Francis is the last pope before the end times. I also knew that he was in the news at the time because several theologians had accused him of heresy for saying divorcees could receive communion in some circumstances. I then realized that Pope Francis was in fact the antichrist/Satan and that my mission on Earth was to kill him to bring about the end times and restore order and sanity to the world. I didn't tell my roommate this.

The next day I awoke in the afternoon and smoked a joint. I decided that the best way to bring my plan to fulfilment was to announce it in my Divine Comedy seminar class. I went to it and at 3:30 I stood up and said, "my friends it is now 3:30 on the 3rd day(after I had taken the acid) and it is time to proclaim the message" I requested someone drive me to the airport so I could fly to Rome and kill the Pope. No one took me seriously, and eventually my teacher called the campus police. I was quite calm in the face of their persecution because although I believed them to be agents of Satan I knew that they had no power over a faithful servant of the Lord.

I was eventually transported to a local hospital and from there my parents had me sent to a mental hospital in my home town, where they gave me meds to stop the psychosis.

TL;DR be careful with psychedelics

[Anonymous No.10288714]

>>10288234
>>10286564
I also found this sentence quite funny

[Anonymous No.10288921]

>>10288216
Unfortunately it’s going to be the patriots. Not that any of this really matters.

[Anonymous No.10289008]

>>10286564
>>10288234
Fucking KEK

[Anonymous No.10289011]

>>10286564
>>10288234
>>10288714
>>10289008

>hurrdurr if you hate gays ur gay urself

god i hate this fucking meme

[Anonymous No.10289022]

>>10289011
that's because you're a meme in the closet

[Anonymous No.10289035]

>>10288339
>>10288391
> a batshit crazy manifesto that said the world was a computer simulation and God was its programmer and sent it to seven of my favorite professors
I find it interesting how paranoid/psychotic breaks can sometimes have this eerily specific view, which is also held (maybe in a somewhat different/not-as-technological view) by mystics throughout history.

Otherwise, good story and good example of how psychedelics aren't all roses and daffodils.

>>10287106
Honestly taking DXM (a low dose, 300mg) was one of the most beautiful and empathetic experiences of my life.

[Anonymous No.10289047]

>>10289035
dxm is low tier shit for desperate people who don't have a dealer that sells acid

dont fall for this meme

[Anonymous No.10289090]

>>10289047
I was actually going to mention this negative stereotype of DXM being something people do who can't get access to other drugs/not being a "real" enough drug, but was too lazy to type it out. Anyway, that aside, you can't take away my experience of feeling extreme empathy and seeing a shitton of beauty and meaning and everything in my life. One thing I'll freely admit though, is you shouldn't get nasty cough syrup shit with a lot of other toxic chemicals in it (I got some gelcaps that just had DXM as the only active ingredient in them, the other ingredients just being the food coloring/gelatin to actually make the gelcap), and also that excessive use of it in short periods of time/higher doses will fry your brain. Also, low doses get old very quick, psychological tolerance builds up to it (you feel the same effects, but get bored of it/it's not that wonderful anymore).

However, the few times I've tried such a low dose so far, each time I became incredibly empathetic, and the innermost parts of my personality came to the surface. About 300mg DXM makes you very honest, and makes you feel very euphoric. I'm lucky to have a strong stomach, too, because for some they feel heavy nausea doing it, and I felt no nausea at all. Another thing I'll also admit is that I haven't tried higher doses, which give an entirely different, hallucinatory effect.

So overall, I'll admit it IS something dumb teenagers do who can't get access to other drugs, and may have some drawbacks, but overall it led to some really beautiful experiences for me. Honest to God, if it wasn't in cough syrup and was just some designer drug, I highly doubt it would be so underrated.

[Anonymous No.10289109]

>>10288380
$50000

[Anonymous No.10289130]

>>10289109
is that the price of 8 bitcoins today? i would say that poster still made the right decision

yeah

an acid trip, a good, life changing one, isn't worth any amount of money

[Anonymous No.10289134]

>>10289047
>>10289090
Another thing is I think people get turned off from it because they try to start out with too high of a dose. Lower doses are more about euphoria and feeling good, not as dissociative/psychedelic. In higher doses, you begin to get more heavily into dissociation, feeling removed from your body, feeling reality is incredibly strange/weird and perhaps getting a bad/uncomfortable trip.

[Anonymous No.10289155]

>>10289134
>>10289090

i said that as someone who robotripped for years. i read all about it on erowid using william whites faq as a basis (particularly the "plateaus" https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dxm/faq/dxm_experience.shtml#toc.5.2))

this is a good place to start if you WANT to try it. but it's still nothing compared to my experiences later on with mushrooms, lsd, mescaline, dmt, mdma. all those are far better drugs with much more meaningful trips for me. erowid made me a bit less fearful about talking to other people. but other than that, it's nothing that great. shoot for a first plateau trip if you do wanna do it. but honestly i would just skip it and look for a dealer.

[Anonymous No.10289160]

>>10289155
dxm made me a bit less fearful* not erowid heheh

[Anonymous No.10289664]

>>10289155
Thanks man, sorry to sound patronizing by telling you a bunch of stuff you already knew lol. Can't really get those drugs because I can't find dealers but I definitely would do 'em if I could, I'm not saying dxm is better than them because I haven't tried them (except for MDMA, which I only tried a low dose of, but I could see how a proper dose could have been better than DXM).

[Anonymous No.10290408]

>>10284761
>>10284741
Yeah the dosage was way too low to experience ego death. You'd probably need to do close to 500 tabs worth to experience what most psychedelic users call 'ego death', and still a decent amount to experience what non-psychedelic users in this thread are calling ego death. Not that you should aim for that to begin with, obviously. Ego death on psychs is not necessarily a good time from what I've heard.

[Anonymous No.10291342]

>breaking the law
Can you get any plebbier?

[Anonymous No.10291404]

Ego softening is a better phrase to describe the experience

Dissociatives are best for this, i loved 3meo pcp. Was addicted to 3meo for 8 months. Great times til i had to get sober

I am agnostic in general yet I had many experiences on 3meo that i can only describe as spiritual

[Anonymous No.10291447]

[Anonymous No.10291904]

>>10291342
>the lore

[Anonymous No.10292057]

>>10283344
2cb appeared to slow down external stimuli, sound would pitch down correspondingly. It hurts to snort it, though this is the most effective method of ingestion.
LSD doesn't give me ego-death at all but instead delusions of grandeur and the belief in having magic powers, once an owl landed on my windowsill and electronics kept shorting near me, strange trip, and others witnessed it who were not tripping. I don't take it anymore, it's too cinematic of a drug. On reflection, all drugs are bad, demonic even.

[Anonymous No.10292231]

I took acid once and all that I can remember from it is Bryan Cranston reciting Shakespeare.

[Anonymous No.10292985]

Done acid like 30 times (n-bome mostly). The 2nd trip showed me the parody of my pathetic existence. Then I developed a Messiah complex and got bold. After one high dose and meditation, I did some really fucked up shit that I wouldnt even dare to go into in an anonymous image board. After that I always unlock the secret of the universe while peaking and then forget it when I come down. For some reason, I can't smoke weed socially anymore. I get extremely introspective and block out external reality. Then I think that I have probably missed out on some social cues and exhibit autistic behavior and then try to overcompensate by trying to appear casual. I just repeat that cycle basically. I'm basically aware of the fact that I'm a complete slave to my ego and I can't help it. It's not as if I'm willing to go in a cave and meditate for 20 years.

TLDR; Psychedelics made the undercurrent of existence much worse. I'm hoping to stumble upon an answer though.

[Anonymous No.10292993]

I was onece listening to dark side of the moon on a hospital bed and got into a half asleep state and it felt weird.

[Anonymous No.10293015]

>>10292985
n-bome isn't acid

[Anonymous No.10293453]

Lmao nigga just buy 100mg of 4 aco dmt from a canadian pharmaceutical site like all you need is a credit card haha

[Anonymous No.10293498]

I've done mushrooms about 20 times. First, it triggered in me an existential anxiety and post-traumatic stress disorder from a bad trip, and later it cured it, making me a better, more adjusted, empathetic and more "ego-less" person. I've lost all feelings of jealousy, anger and resentment.

[Anonymous No.10294770]

>>10286564
>If you stupid, tripping will confuse you or scare you away. If you are strong and smart, tripping will be the best decision you make.

I really agree with this, I've tripped with really stupid people, and they couldn't handle it and it was a big mistake. And with really smart people who where in over their heads, smart and strong is the key. For some, to become strong you do have to ease into getting used to tripping. I've tripped many times and have become really fucking confident, to a ridiculous extent, in me being able to see through it and being able to enjoy, in a very abstract way sometimes, everything that happens. Fuck I really love doing acid, don't do it a lot anymore but still.

[Anonymous No.10294841]

>>10291342
>breaking the law

>Caring about breaking the law, when your own moral compass gives the green light.

>inb4 nigger

[Anonymous No.10294852]

>>10294841
nigger

[Anonymous No.10294875]

egodeath? i hope this is aj joke.. please let it be a joke. There is no such thing as ego death you big fucking morons. Is it ego death when you sleep? is it ego death when you are centered on some activity like playing wipeout with some very intense music because what we consider ego is not present and we become fully immersed in the moment? Is that ego death to you? No, no it is not. I have taked 1000 pychedelics in this lifetime and i can assure you that ego death is just as real as the door warping and twisting and the branches of the tree flirting with you and dancing in the wind and teasing you and you laugh at them from your 4th floor window and wave and say: you god damn fools hahahaha, you are some hilarious bunch and they just dance more intensely at yu and you can't stand even anymore from laughing because these trees are so hilarious, trying to hit on you, dancing for you, inviting you over for some nice cup of coffee and when you're there they are telling you of things like when rain drops on their leaves and it smeels very nice and it's a tingling pleasure as the water hits their leaves and branches and stem and it feels so fresh but also mother earth soaks in the water and supports the threes roots and when that happens a tree goes hipie yeah juuhay and wants to do a flathouse jump round the world yipie ut it's fixed with it's root but that i sokay because a trees imagination is very strong and this is why dreamers and artists and thinkers feel so drawn to forests says the tree to me and he says that once upon a time Albert Döblin touched him and thought of things and stood in front of him and murmured things and he would move on and make his walk and when he returned to his flat he would continue writing on Berlin Alexandroplatz and when he touched me says the tree and has a slomen but also very proud but not aggressively pride in which his pride would undermine and subvert your pride but a satisfied and alchemistic pride a sense of purpose as he says that the energy of Döblin that he felt was magical and it was like the beautiful singing of the birds when they were looking for lovers and mates for their future lifes except who knew that humans had such beauty in them! he says and then he says that it is even more beautiful than the singing of irds who are naive and rowdy and often play pranks and do peek peek at the others heads as to get more food but Döblin was not like those birds and he said nothing but he touched the three and rested with his head on it and was thinking and thinking and feling himself and the three and wanted to sleep with this tree but not sexually but sleep and rest with this tree and hoped for the noise to subside but it would not subside and in his head grew images like the sprouts in the spring when the sun wakes up early and the winds come from the east and with them a new air, a new breath is invoked into life and as such grew the thoughts in his head of bieberkop and his adventures in the streets of

[Anonymous No.10294876]

>>10292985
stop thinking

[Anonymous No.10294907]

I've done mushrooms about 20 times. this was my favourite goal number uno in life for i was a young boy and listened to seargent Peppers Lonely Heats club man and thought that the beatles also took psychedelics and were very inspired byi it so maybe or possibly it could cure from anxiety and distress in my life and open my eyes to that i could se ethe truth of myself and of my own being and begin my new life as my true self but when i took shrooms it was first very dull andi said to mysel:f stop thinking right now you nigger but it didn't work and i was sitting on the couch and was listening to music from the times when LSD was everywhere and thought that i was really just reenacting a play from older times instead of Living the Moment and with the Zeitgeist of our time and that my attmepts to take shrooms was really just another way of differentiating myself from those who were around me and who had not be mean to me and actually opened their doorfs for me to enter their lives but i always repsonded rar noo! my own life! and i would go home after the doors were closed and sat down on a stool and smiled and looked at the table and thought that i guess i am high bu on shrooms but didn't even realize because the table was eminating green neon light and it felt as if the glass was made of water light reflections and i felt a serious anxiety in my stomach like maybe an animal does when it sees the hunter but is still in a state of denial and tries to make the hunter go away by not moving but inside it dies and is terribly frighetned but because were human we can't let thiese feelings come to the surface and we must repress them to our stomachs were it's called anxiety and as i look around i notice more changes and i walk out of the house and sit down oon the porch and say i'm waiting for my mom to return so that she cna give me medicine which will made me feel better than ia mf eeling now bceause this FEELINg i sSHIT and i don't wanna do it but the whole world grew larger and i saw patterns developing in the sky and i looked into the sun which to me now wwas frighteningly beuatiful and i remmebered that i've read somewhere not to lookk into the sun for too long and i said: You're not my mom and smirked and continued to stare into the sun which was a yuuge yellow orb of energy and i understood it at that moment and i understood everything at that moment for example that we havesuper large industries that focus on creating tools to store chemical loiquids which exists on this planet and i was laughing so hard thinking how absurd water glasses are WATER GLASSES can you even imagine how absurd that is that w ebuild glasses so that we can put a CHEMICAL FLUID INSIDE OF IT SO THAT WE CAN DRINK IT DESPITE IT BEING A CHEMICAL FLUID and i was laughing like Ha AHa Ha Ha but that was years ago and by now i'm just a bed dweller smoking weed every day and feeling like utter fucking shit every day, hour after hour passing, consuming, consuming, consuming and jerki

[Anonymous No.10294940]

>>10283344

I have never done a drug in my life and I have only had a few swigs of alcohol. Yet I have had moments of serenity or some such during alone time in the forest. I don't think you need drugs to get to some level, all it does it confuse you more than anything. Anything you can learn from doing drugs can be learned without them.

[Anonymous No.10294950]

>>10292985
Tell us the fucked up shit

[Anonymous No.10294951]

wow there's a lot of tension in the air in this thread. This is very intense and i can feel that there are struggles here. Real human strugglkes and to me it's beautiful and you are beautiful souls. Peace says the wise man, and he is right in saying so. Allthis tensity all this stored up lividinal energy must flow my friends let it out from your penis, let you rpenis out and let it flow and follow it where it leads to and when you have arrived do not think and do not judge but simply follow it and all will be good and this is all you need to know because all of this tension in this room i sbecause you're not letting out your penis and you don't follow it and this is why we don't have peace in the world. you think all the other things can satisfy you but you know it's not true. You know that once the initial satisfaction has subsided you desire again and there is a part of yourself which is a physical manifestation of your desire, it is a divne being and your rod and tool towards a life of fulfillment, it is a compass, where it points you must go and as such you will escape the illusional cycle of hunting after more and more and more but not hunting with your penis but hunting with your head and your bank account and hunting with your family in mind and that#s stupid and this is why there is so much tension in this room which must all flow away. I will now put out my penis out o fmy sheath and when i say ha we will all remember a situation in which our penis has brought us joy and satisfaction and in which there was no tension in the room and the air we would breath was clear and with no corrutpion but it was our air and a healthy air for there was no tension in the room. Let it hang, or stick out if you're on the smaller side and remember the time. And i remmeber how i was a young man walked down the path of enlightement with a group of friends of mine and we were all making jokes and hahaa and hohoho and i did high fives with my pals who wore modern hairstyles and leather jackets and who would fuck authority if it dared to show itself to them and if somebody looked at them the wrong way they'd say: I don't like your face bust and will spit on the ground and they spat and the person who was called a busta smiled and said: Why should you like or dislike my face, why does it matter and why do you give it importance he said and smiled and hid his hands behind his backs and waited for a response and my friends gulped and didn't know what to answer and they were shaking from fear for their greatest fears had become a reality but i laughed a healthy Ha Ha Ha and walked up to the person and unzipped his zipper and took out his average-sized penis and said: Now you understand, do you not? Yu were thinking with your mind but what you didn't realize was that you need to just obey your penis and follow it where it leads you and this was the moment in which i had realized the truth of truths and before that i was naive and thinking with my head but ever sinc

[Anonymous No.10295019]

>>10294875
I enjoyed reading this post

[Anonymous No.10295035]

>>10294940
this

drugs can be helpful to some people but they are not mandatory

[Anonymous No.10295083]

I wrote this caption for this image.

Notable moments from my acid experience:

>I felt like my "self" was localized entirely in my brain and my body was something like a pet that followed me around and needed to be fed once in a while.

>I recall experiencing the famed "cosmic connectedness" that underlies all organic matter everywhere in the universe. I repeated the words "It's a network! That's what is!" many times.

>I studied a mound of flowers in a bordered area of the garden and slowly realized that I was looking at a walled medieval city or a metropolis. The logic was something like: a small organic system springs from the ground like a small mountain + a human springs from a biologically ascending chain of complexity / versatility / capability whatever you want to call it + the city ascends and develops from human hands in like fashion. Piero Scaruffi said "humanity will be a footnote to the history of objects" if that gives you an idea of my thinking. I saw an immeasurably immense evolutionary progression leading far into the future from far in the past.

>It became possible to focus on multiple moving entities at once. The trip reports I have read don't often mention the clarity of the experience. Everything is immensely detailed; I was thrust into an awareness of the present unlike anything experienced beyond my earliest years in life. I felt the sun on my skin and the way my limbs rested where they lay with an unwavering clarity. If my line of sight is normally something like a cone that I point at things, on acid it become a sphere of awareness that grew in all directions, even behind my head.

[Anonymous No.10295103]

>>10283344
I once ate a pot brownie and then a shower, I then experienced ego death and curled up in the tub lol.

[Anonymous No.10296048]

Once I did nitrous oxide after smoking a bunch of weed
>woke up in a void
>eternal repeating wooshing sound
>could only think about once every 3 seconds
>thought I had died
>started having visions of the future
>eventually it dies down and I slip in and out of the void for a few minutes before passing out from fear
And now I get horrible flashbacks from smoking weed. And I also have a near constant anxiety about existence and death. The barrier between my imagination and what I perceive moment to moment has broken down somewhat.

[Anonymous No.10296588]

>>10286291
>>10286450
>>10286556

What style are these paintings? They've got a really cosy feel to them.

[Anonymous No.10297897]

Did dmt and entities called me a loser. Never again.

[Anonymous No.10297920]

i'm growing shrooms and have this cross in the mycelium, should i call the vatican or what?

[Anonymous No.10297940]

>>10297897
>Rejected by the beings between perception
Damn dude...

[Anonymous No.10297954]

I have had tremendous experiences with drugs, but you can only achieve ego-death when sober. The vast majority of people who claim to experience ego-death from drugs are legitimately losers in every aspect of life. The handful of "authors" and "artists" who abuse drugs wind up being forgotten and dying young and ruining their minds. With that said, I took about 8 grams of Kratom today, and I feel so warm and fuzzy. First time doing Kratom, too.

If you're planning on doing drugs, even something like marijuana, PLEASE for the love of God send your genetics to 23andme and ask your relatives if they have ever had mental health issues. If you're the 5% of the population with low MAO-A activity genes (like me) you can go schizophrenic from psychedelics and even marijuana. I stopped being able to even handle marijuana years ago, I go full-out paranoid mess.

[Anonymous No.10298412]

>>10286275
>take psychedelics
>feel boundless love for all things, as if I am one with Being
>decide to clean up my act and pursue my dreams

Psychedelics are a pharmakon--they can't help you if you aren't aware of your underlying anxieties and issues.

[Anonymous No.10298446]

>>10294940
>different experiences can teach you the same thing

Drugs are obviously not toys, but they have a power that sobriety struggles to compare to. Don't get me wrong, one needs to experience sobriety, to maintain a balance between work and play, but I think there's a healthy way of taking drugs, Ayahuasca being a great example. There's actually nothing wrong with being confused or even terrified, because once you surrender to it you gain a newfound clarity.

[Anonymous No.10298534]

>>10294940
>Anything you can learn from doing drugs can be learned without them.
>implying you can learn what it feels like to forget everything, to lose every symbol (including who you are, what drugs are what remembering and forgetting even are) right down to the "I" which is doing the learning

This moment is too big to be learned, there is an experience of the totality all contents of which is immediately forgotten except that it happened

[Anonymous No.10298546]

>>10298446

There is nothing externally brought to the brain from drugs. All drugs do is remove inhibitions which unlock access to states of mind that were already possible in your body. Therefore i'm saying "Clarity" or the special experience you describe as "clarity" already existed as building blocks from previous experience and knowledge that you were only either sub-consciously aware of already or not aware of at all. This knowledge from experience already in your mind is attainable through alternative means without the use of drugs however drugs can either unlock that access then immediately distort it or or help you become aware of the self in ways that your current day to day existence wasn't allowing. The key to achieve these things without drugs come from certain esoteric practices and also the ability of analyzation but you also need certain life experiences and the proper environment.

[Anonymous No.10298559]

>>10286564
this is the truth, psychedelics strip you down to the twisted lies and delusions, bitter hate-filled people can expect to suffer a lot.

[Anonymous No.10298565]

>>10283344
Take acid as often as you can. But not too much.

[Anonymous No.10298585]

>>10298546
>There is nothing externally brought to the brain from drugs
DMT and the "drugs are technology" POV suggest otherwise

the same with Ayahusca when you ask the shamans how did they learn to make the brew (it requires 2 different plants usually separated by hundreds of miles) they say "the plants told us"

[Anonymous No.10298615]

>>10291342
you know the most powerful people in society usually take drugs, like coke.

[Anonymous No.10298628]

>>10298615
tfw reality is just bioshock 1

[Anonymous No.10298674]

>>10298615
And this is why the world is so shit.

[Anonymous No.10298695]

>>10298565
Take too much at least once.

[Anonymous No.10300018]

>>10288339
This reminds me of my acid experience. Took two tabs and ended up staying awake for 5 days. I had felt a spiritual God energy at the time and at first thought that I was Jesus then I came down a little and just thought that I was the next successor to Pope Francis because of a couple reasons. 1. I was in the hospital the same day Pope Francis was elected with appendicitus. 2. That day was also my sister Fran's birthday. 3. My family and extended family all have statues of Saint Fancis in the yard. 4. I am half hispanic so logically I would be the right fit to speak to Pope Francis and become the first American Pope.

I also ended up breaking up with my girlfriend while I was in Pope mode. Was sent to the hospital for 5 days.

When I had finally got my head back it had felt like my soul strings were severed from the world and that I had to re attach them.

[Anonymous No.10301219]

Psychedelics I Have Done And Loved(PIHDAL)[pronounced piddle]:

-lsd (crystal, blotter, liquid, up to 1000mics)
-mdma(crystal, x)
-mescaline
-dmt
-2ct2
-2ct7
-2cb
-2ce
-25-i
-mushrooms
-1-p lsd
-4-aco-dmt
-4-aco-dpt

I love psychs, maaaaannnnnnn

[Anonymous No.10301261]

>>10291342
>obeying the law
Can you get any plebbier?

Why do you think laws are made in the first place? To keep the plebs in line, of course. By definition, only plebs conform.